Kid Rock's better than U2

[White trash]

For everyone moaning about how quick the U2 tickets sold out, check this stat.

In Detroit, the Kids first concert sold out in 6 minutes, announced a second show, sold out in 9 minutes. Guess there's no excusing good taste.

"They say I'm, cocky. And I say WHAT?............"

[Colapop]

For everyone moaning about how quick the U2 tickets sold out, check this stat.

In Detroit, the Kids first concert sold out in 6 minutes, announced a second show, sold out in 9 minutes. Guess there's no excusing good taste.

"They say I'm, cocky. And I say WHAT?............"

Gotta agree with the Trashman on this one. Yep U2 were great - 15 years ago. But now they're almost Bob Geldoffish, Rolling Stonesish (who are still great but in a classic sense) - you know there's still some class there but it's probably time they sat on their laureals.

[SARGE]

For everyone moaning about how quick the U2 tickets sold out, check this stat.

In Detroit, the Kids first concert sold out in 6 minutes, announced a second show, sold out in 9 minutes. Guess there's no excusing good taste.

"They say I'm, cocky. And I say WHAT?............"


yip .. total pansy rock.. wouldnt pay $20 to watch someone set Bono on fire..(wait.. maybe i would..) whatever happened to hard hitting rock.. ACDC, Zepplin, Motorhed

now we are stuck with shit like 50 cent, Adult Contemporary power pop like that hi pitched dogwhistle song (James Best i think..im blocking..) and sellouts like Metallica and U2 ( incidentally.. im not speaking out of school here .. i MC'd a show with U2 years ago before they got big (university radio airplay and big bars) and they rocked! ( same with the Chili's)

we also have that "metal" (WTF is SLIPKNOT?) try some Maiden, Preist, Accept, Dio, etc

Kid Rock has balls the size of Australia..

[White trash]

Jesus Christ!

Didn't expect to get any support on that one! Talk about your all time backfires.....

[Coyote]

we also have that "metal" (WTF is SLIPKNOT?) try some Maiden, Preist, Accept, Dio, etc
That's slipknow attached, sadly

Did you watch Classic Albums: Motorhead? Now they were cool

[WRT]

I didnt know pinnochio was in slipknot?

So, WT - was that a pisstake at the start, or do you actually prefer Kid Rock over U2?

[White trash]

As Sarge so eloquently reminded me,

"You can roll with Rock or you can suck my dick!"

[Colapop]

Slipknot? Why don't those boys dress normally for a rock band? Something like a 40 year old school uniform?

[WRT]

As Sarge so eloquently reminded me,

"You can roll with Rock or you can suck my dick!"

A choice of Rock or Cock, eh? I aint greedy tho, tell you what, you can keep both.

[White trash]

A choice of Rock or Cock, eh? I aint greedy tho, tell you what, you can keep both.

Ahh well, no excusing bad taste I guess.

[WRT]

Ahh well, no excusing bad taste I guess.

If you dont want the bad taste, dont put it in your mouth. I cant believe you let Sarge talk you into that!

Or were you refering to Kid Rock? ;)

[SARGE]

That's slipknow attached, sadly

Did you watch Classic Albums: Motorhead? Now they were cool


they look like WWF wrestlers

TONIGHT ..LIVE IN THE STEEL CAGE DEATHMATCH.. SLIPKNOT V. DA 50 cent POSSEE

that i'd pay to see..

[bugjuice]

yeah, but you're comparing the buying power of the Yanks in their squillions, to the lesser quantified kiwi, with a fraction of the contact numbers and outlets

[SARGE]

If you dont want the bad taste, dont put it in your mouth. I cant believe you let Sarge talk you into that!

Or were you refering to Kid Rock? ;)


but neither one of us ride an Italian bike...


that would just be TOO gay..

[White trash]

they look like WWF wrestlers

TONIGHT ..LIVE IN THE STEEL CAGE DEATHMATCH.. SLIPKNOT V. DA 50 cent POSSEE

that i'd pay to see..

Hate to say it, but I reckon the rappers would fuck the metalers up. Just my 50 cents....

[White trash]

but neither one of us ride an Italian bike...


that would just be TOO gay..

Fuggen spaghetti slurpers..........

[SARGE]

Hate to say it, but I reckon the rappers would fuck the metalers up. Just my 50 cents....


not in MY old neighborhood..:bash:

[SPORK]

Pah, if you complain about the lack of good metal these days it's coz you're not looking into the European stuff! If anyone wants the good stuff, PM me...

[Lias]

So were you crusty old buggers at the motorhead concert the other night?

Well worth the trip up from Hamilton it was.

[White trash]

So were you crusty old buggers at the motorhead concert the other night?

Well worth the trip up from Hamilton it was.

Jonis going away party. Didn't feel like going deaf that particular night.

[WRT]

but neither one of us ride an Italian bike...


that would just be TOO gay..

LOL - gay would have been if it was piaggio . . . and stopping for a latte on Ponsnobby Rd.

I'm comfortable in my sexuality tho, no need to listen to metal to prove I'm "manly". Grew outta that phase while I was still in my teens. While I still enjoy the odd rock song (including some of U2's earlier stuff), I cant really get into this Nu Skool rock . . . or def metal for that matter. But each unto their own.

[outlawtorn]

now now Sarge,

Aint nothing wrong with Metallica, they simply just grew into a different style of heavy. They didn't sell out, ever. If selling out is changing your musical style a wee bit then I reckon most bands out there have "sold out", bands like the Beatles, Rolling Stones, U2, Megadeth, Napalm Death, Pantera (Although they got heavier) and there list can go on forever. It's bands that don't change that get boring, look at Iron Maiden, their last 5 albums all sound the same, they are consistent, but it does get a tad boring, saying that I'm still a huge Maiden fan and have got every album they've ever made.

[SARGE]

now now Sarge,

Aint nothing wrong with Metallica, they simply just grew into a different style of heavy. They didn't sell out, ever. If selling out is changing your musical style a wee bit then I reckon most bands out there have "sold out", bands like the Beatles, Rolling Stones, U2, Megadeth, Napalm Death, Pantera (Although they got heavier) and there list can go on forever. It's bands that don't change that get boring, look at Iron Maiden, their last 5 albums all sound the same, they are consistent, but it does get a tad boring, saying that I'm still a huge Maiden fan and have got every album they've ever made.


progress is good. Metallica was a fresh sound in a stale 80's pop rock graveyard . changing to suit the publics tastes INSTEAD of changing the publics taste is selling out.. all the oucasts loved it because it was raw and animal. then with Black, they lost the dangerous edge. listen to the OLD 'tallica ,.. then put on St Anger..

[*sic]

bands should change, if they dont they are not innovative anymore,and the band members wont get the same enjoyment..music to be into it has to be fun. most people in music want to change and experiment, music tastes change as you age anyways as different stages of life come up.. things that were life and death at one point (ie having friends at school, or being popular)

life pwns. music changes.

all the sounds i have worked on musically and lyrically have altered so much so its hard to remember the feelings that were going on in my head when i was writing back when i was 14-16.. now 23 the world is a whole different place, the old songs have lost the relevence to me now.. still great songs but not the same mind listening to them.

original ideas and innovation is what a band needs, and it needs it constantly

[outlawtorn]

progress is good. Metallica was a fresh sound in a stale 80's pop rock graveyard . changing to suit the publics tastes INSTEAD of changing the publics taste is selling out.. all the oucasts loved it because it was raw and animal. then with Black, they lost the dangerous edge. listen to the OLD 'tallica ,.. then put on St Anger..
The only difference with the black album is the production and the fact that the songs are more thought out and they are a tad slower than the predecessor "Justice" who's production was shit anyway. St Anger in my eyes was good for the band as a whole but wasn't their greatest moment, in fact I put St. Anger and Justice as my two least favourite albums, purely from a product and songwriting point of view, funnily enough both those albums came from losing a bass player, not that Newsted contributed as much as Burton did.

I suppose it's all in how you look at it, MetallicA are the greatest band in the world, all of their music is great, the real interesting thing is going to be how they sound on the next album, hopefully Lars would have realised that his drum sound needs to go back to the original sound it's always had.

Also just want to add that U2 are crap, so is Slipsnot and in 5 years time no one is going to remember Kid Rock........:rockon:

[SPORK]

Ooooh, I'm a big fan of Justice, as a matter of fact. There was a few gems on it, such as One, To Live is to Die, and Justice. I will agree on Sarge on this one though, they did change when they bought in Bob Rock to produce the Black album.

I mean, the period of Metallica loosing it coincides with Bob Rock perfectly. Now that they've booted him out, I hope that they can once again make good music. For groodness sake, he even MADE the drums on St Anger sound shit on PURPOSE!?!

Burton would of kicked all their asses if he were still alive. In fact, Metallica would still be ruling if he was around.

[Two Smoker]

I was watching Joe Dirt last night.... FUCKING HELL YOU LOOK LIKE TWINS WT!!! Except you are more of a homo...

[SixPackBack]

I was watching Joe Dirt last night.... FUCKING HELL YOU LOOK LIKE TWINS WT!!! Except you are more of a homo...
HAHAHA.....Classic all we need is conformation of 'sisterly love' and you got it in one:lol:
For the record Kid Rock is the cooler, anyone thats spent time hangin outa Pamela Anderson gets extra points

[avgas]

:2thumbsup TooL:doobey: :rockon:

[Matt Bleck]

Ya can't even call Kid Rock a musican for fucks sake!!

And lyrics...... what the fuck is "da didi da, de dang de dang deeeeee"!!!!!!

[outlawtorn]

I mean, the period of Metallica loosing it coincides with Bob Rock perfectly. Now that they've booted him out, I hope that they can once again make good music. For groodness sake, he even MADE the drums on St Anger sound shit on PURPOSE!?!
Yip, I'm sure Lars let him do that to his drum sound.....NOT! Bob Rock might have been their producer (Didn't know that he had been booted, please back this up with a link to the article) but he is a fucking good producer. But if you think that Lars and the rest of MetallicA simply let him change their sound by himself then you don't know MetallicA well enough.

And yes, Kid (k)Rock isn't a musicians arse, don't think he's great just cause he's had Pamela Anderson, don't forget she has had Tommy Lee (Motley Crue) and Bret Michaels (Poison)......

[Matt Bleck]

I saw the Greatest Albums show, I think it was the first one, it was about the Black album.

In it Lars said he didn't speak to Bob Rock for two years! Theirs no way He let him purposefully change the sound. Lars had a plan for that album.

[TraD_MaN]

did i see slipknot? man i carnt beleve i use to listen to that crap :bash:

kid rock? whos that haha

metalllica went crap, i heard some of there new stuff on the rock the other night, its kinda like country metallica rock/metal. but wtf at there new bass dude? they one for st anger, he looks so out of place...

give me arch enemy any day :rockon:

[White trash]

For the reccord it's "Ba widda ba di bang di bang diggy diggy....."

Best lyric ever written.

[SPORK]

Yip, I'm sure Lars let him do that to his drum sound.....NOT! Bob Rock might have been their producer (Didn't know that he had been booted, please back this up with a link to the article) but he is a fucking good producer. But if you think that Lars and the rest of MetallicA simply let him change their sound by himself then you don't know MetallicA well enough.

And yes, Kid (k)Rock isn't a musicians arse, don't think he's great just cause he's had Pamela Anderson, don't forget she has had Tommy Lee (Motley Crue) and Bret Michaels (Poison)......
I don't have an article, I only heard it off a couple of different people. Sigh, I hope he is. Aging wannabe rocksters piss me off.

St Anger (hereby referred to as Stanger) is all the worst parts of Tool (do they have a good part even!?), Linkin Park, and Iggy Pop.

Here is the Official What Is Shit List


Slipknot
Tool
Linkin Park
Any form of modern "punk"
All forms of country
All hip-hop, rap (excluding NWA) and ghetto

Here's the Official Stuff That Rules list

Old School Metallica
Megadeth
Evergrey
Children of Bodom
G 'n' R
Most instrumental guitar
N.W.A
Skid Row



If you disagree you are wrong.

[Matt Bleck]

For the reccord it's "Ba widda ba di bang di bang diggy diggy....."

Best lyric ever written.

Your dreaming..... maybe delirious even, get to the doctor quick!!!

[outlawtorn]

I don't have an article, I only heard it off a couple of different people. Sigh, I hope he is. Aging wannabe rocksters piss me off.

St Anger (hereby referred to as Stanger) is all the worst parts of Tool (do they have a good part even!?), Linkin Park, and Iggy Pop.

Here is the Official What Is Shit List


Slipknot
Tool
Linkin Park
Any form of modern "punk"
All forms of country
All hip-hop, rap (excluding NWA) and ghetto

Here's the Official Stuff That Rules list

Old School Metallica
Megadeth
Evergrey
Children of Bodom
G 'n' R
Most instrumental guitar
N.W.A
Skid Row



If you disagree you are wrong.
Sorry dude, but when I was 15 I also thought I knew everything about music, trust me, your tastes will mature....

[Coyote]

Sorry dude, but when I was 15 I also thought I knew everything about music, trust me, your tastes will mature....
Yeah, he's about as narrow minded as you can get

But I do agree with most of what he said, only Slipknot have one or two goods songs and so do Tool, and I like Greenday to a certain extent (I'm surprised he didn't mention them and just said modern punk) for their political veiws

But what do I know? :spudwhat: (take the bait OMGWTFBBQ, you know you want it)

[SARGE]

Sorry dude, but when I was 15 I also thought I knew everything about music, trust me, your tastes will mature....


i have a broad range of musical tastes.. leaning toward the 80's metal ( Dio, Black Sabbath, Maiden etc) i also like a bit of Classical ( Wagner and "heavier" stuff like Carmina Burana), a bit of industreal (NIN, KMFDM, Lords of Acid)

i hate rap, i hate country and i really hate 'sugar pop'

grew up on Boston , Journey , Styx, Hendrix, Foghat, Zepplin, ( late 70's arena rock)

i still find modern rock songs i like though..although the radio has them on power rotation ( EVERY BLOODY 3 HOURS!!!)

[inlinefour]

For everyone moaning about how quick the U2 tickets sold out, check this stat.

In Detroit, the Kids first concert sold out in 6 minutes, announced a second show, sold out in 9 minutes. Guess there's no excusing good taste.

"They say I'm, cocky. And I say WHAT?............"

Although Kid Rock is good, not as good as U2. But what would I know? I'm the one who reckons Honda make the worlds best motorcycles.:bleh:

[onearmedbandit]

Just my 5c worth.

I grew up listening to Metallica and Iron Maiden, had all their albums. Lost interest in IM after a while, but still love to put on their tracks be it from an early album or their later stuff. Metallica however changed (their decision) from what I knew and loved (Kill 'em all, Ride the lightning, Master of puppets, etc) into commercialised crap. (I back this up by asking how many songs off the albums I listed have you ever heard on main stream radio, yet a few singles off of their latest albums get excessive playtime).

And to really top this off, I saw a Vanessa Kroll lookalike (could've been her, fucked if I know) doing a cover of Nothing Else Matters on a piano the other day. When your 'heavy metal' songs start getting covered by artists like this, with from memory a piano in an open field in the video, you've got problems.

[outlawtorn]

Just my 5c worth.

I grew up listening to Metallica and Iron Maiden, had all their albums. Lost interest in IM after a while, but still love to put on their tracks be it from an early album or their later stuff. Metallica however changed (their decision) from what I knew and loved (Kill 'em all, Ride the lightning, Master of puppets, etc) into commercialised crap. (I back this up by asking how many songs off the albums I listed have you ever heard on main stream radio, yet a few singles off of their latest albums get excessive playtime).

And to really top this off, I saw a Vanessa Kroll lookalike (could've been her, fucked if I know) doing a cover of Nothing Else Matters on a piano the other day. When your 'heavy metal' songs start getting covered by artists like this, with from memory a piano in an open field in the video, you've got problems.
Isn't it strange that as soon as any form of niche artist goes maintstream and becomes incredibly popular they are "selling out".....strange how people always seem to think that, all the fucking time.:angry:
Did Ozzy sell out for going on MTV? Or for creating the huge mega success that is the Ozzfest? Did all those artists sell out for going on that huge commercial road show?
And if someone wants to cover Nothing Else Matters on the piano let them, it's a fucking tribute to MetallicA isn't it. As for the latest singles getting airtime, it's called getting playlisted, DJ's aren't DJ's any more, they are given a list of what to play by the record labels, who dominate what we listen to.

Aargh!! It just fucking irks me how many people don't acknowledge MetallicA as still being a good heavy band, it's like it's almost a trend not to like MetallicA cause it make you more metal or some shit like that!!!!!!

[dveus]

And to really top this off, I saw a Vanessa Kroll lookalike (could've been her, fucked if I know) doing a cover of Nothing Else Matters on a piano the other day. When your 'heavy metal' songs start getting covered by artists like this, with from memory a piano in an open field in the video, you've got problems.

I've heard a cover of Nothing Else Matters being done by the Gregorian Monks. Took me ages to convince mum that it was a Metallica song.

[SPORK]

Isn't it strange that as soon as any form of niche artist goes maintstream and becomes incredibly popular they are "selling out".....strange how people always seem to think that, all the fucking time.:angry:
Did Ozzy sell out for going on MTV? Or for creating the huge mega success that is the Ozzfest? Did all those artists sell out for going on that huge commercial road show?
And if someone wants to cover Nothing Else Matters on the piano let them, it's a fucking tribute to MetallicA isn't it. As for the latest singles getting airtime, it's called getting playlisted, DJ's aren't DJ's any more, they are given a list of what to play by the record labels, who dominate what we listen to.

Aargh!! It just fucking irks me how many people don't acknowledge MetallicA as still being a good heavy band, it's like it's almost a trend not to like MetallicA cause it make you more metal or some shit like that!!!!!!
But you see, I still love Metallica plenty. I just prefer their old stuff. Hell, I've got a Master of Puppets poster on my wall. They changed their musical style, for money or otherwise, I don't paticuarlyery care, but it's just not a style that I like. For that simple reason, that they drastically changed their music around the time they got a producer, I will refer to them as "selling out". And my list of stuff that is good was merely a piss take.

Well, almost :msn-wink:

[SARGE]

And to really top this off, I saw a Vanessa Kroll lookalike (could've been her, fucked if I know) doing a cover of Nothing Else Matters on a piano the other day. When your 'heavy metal' songs start getting covered by artists like this, with from memory a piano in an open field in the video, you've got problems.


even worse .. i heard Tom Jones do a cover of Nothing Else Matters

[onearmedbandit]

Outlawtorn, take an effing chill pill. I never said I didn't like Metallic(A) (I still don't understand why you capitalise the last letter only, I mean the whole name is in upper case not just the M and A), in fact I'm probably one of the biggest fans of their earlier shit, I just don't agree with the direction they have taken. Hence why in my original post I said 'their decision'.

And yes I think they've sold out. Lars (in particular) treats Metallica as a business, he no doubt saw greater returns financially in moving from a small dedicated fanbase to a larger audience. They moved away from their original style, cleaned everything up (fucken Nothing Else Matters -except for the dollars) and cashed in big time. Great business decision, no doubt.

Getting playlisted. Who gives a fuck why the songs are on the radio. But I'm sure you'll never hear 'Whiplash' played on 91.3. The songs they mostly produce now are clean enough for mainstream radio.

Sorry Outlawtorn, but Metallica will never be the same again. That doesn't bother me in the slightest, we all change. But I will not buy any of their last few albums soley because it's Metallica, but only if I like the music.

[outlawtorn]

Just think of how boring the music industry would be if all groups/artists kept to their original style of music and never changed/experimented/matured?
And so what if he treats the band like a business, is he in this for the love of music alone? Can he not look after his financial interests? Would you like it if someone took away part of your earnings because they deemed you wealthy enough already? Come on dude.......

[onearmedbandit]

I don't think it would be as there are constantly new bands coming out with new styles. All Metallica did was change from one style to another. They didn't invent a new style.

I do however appreciate what you are saying. This doesn't change my stance though.

[SPORK]

Gosh, OAB is my new hero.

[avgas]

Sorry dude, but when I was 15 I also thought I knew everything about music, trust me, your tastes will mature....
Good call - thats how i felt when i was 15 as well.
Used to lsten to Poison, Metallica and Iron Maiden with some G and R on the side.....
Now all that has changed and i cant stand those bands, why bother buying their albums....bloody radio plays them with ACDC all the bloody time.
As for the good TooL songs....dont listen to anything that plays on the radio again, all the rest of the songs of the albums are the good ones. Have to admit that they are getting softer with each album unfortunately.
Still have a soft spot for Sevendust though, seems great to chuck on the mp3 and go for a ride with, makes you appreciate corners more or something.
On a final note:
Kid Rock??? ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[avgas]

Although Kid Rock is good, not as good as U2. But what would I know? I'm the one who reckons Honda make the worlds best motorcycles.:bleh:
Note: dont take in anything ilf sez from now on, he's a witch. :lol: