some people..

[NotaGoth]

I was standing outside a shop in the Whangarei mall today. A girl came and sat on the window ledge of a shop. Next thing you know I hear "could you please help me?" I was cautious at first wether it was a trick to get me close enough to snatch my bag (horrible to have to think like that I know)

I got close enough and asked her what was wrong. She told me she felt dizzy and didn't feel all to good at all. Again she said "please help me" Next thing you know her eyes rolled up in her head and she collapsed on the floor. I tried supporting her all I could. Did anyone walking past bother to help? No. I don't think so. Did any stop to see if we were ok? Hell if "she" was ok? Nope.

she kind of sat on the floor for a minute then got up again. Told me she had to go to the bathroom. I left it at that. Something had me worried though and I decided to find mum. Told her what happened. She then asked me where she had gone just incase she collasped again.

Sure enough we found her in the public toilet collapsed on the floor. While people stepped over her body to get to the sink to wash her hands. Like wtf? You see someone collasped on the damn floor like that wouldn't it raise a brow? Wouldn't you at least ask if they were ok?

The girl was sweating like crazy. Went and got a lady in one of the shops to call an ambo, got a glass of water and wet cloth to whipe her brow with and try and cool her down some. She couldn't even reach for her glass of water let alone hold it. I had to place her hand round it.

I couldn't help but think to myself.. "What if that was my child collapsed on a public toilet floor" what if that was my child and someone who couldn't care less stepped over them so they could "wash their hands" and go back to their daily business. that is a very horrible thought.


I'm sure if it was their child they would have gave two fucks.

:bash:

[thehollowmen]

thanks for helping out

the apathy of some people astounds me these days... they just don't want to get involved.

rep to you for doing the right thing.

[cowpoos]

I was standing outside a shop in the Whangarei mall today. A girl came and sat on the window ledge of a shop. Next thing you know I hear "could you please help me?" I was cautious at first wether it was a trick to get me close enough to snatch my bag (horrible to have to think like that I know)

I got close enough and asked her what was wrong. She told me she felt dizzy and didn't feel all to good at all. Again she said "please help me" Next thing you know her eyes rolled up in her head and she collapsed on the floor. I tried supporting her all I could. Did anyone walking past bother to help? No. I don't think so. Did any stop to see if we were ok? Hell if "she" was ok? Nope.

she kind of sat on the floor for a minute then got up again. Told me she had to go to the bathroom. I left it at that. Something had me worried though and I decided to find mum. Told her what happened. She then asked me where she had gone just incase she collasped again.

Sure enough we found her in the public toilet collapsed on the floor. While people stepped over her body to get to the sink to wash her hands. Like wtf? You see someone collasped on the damn floor like that wouldn't it raise a brow? Wouldn't you at least ask if they were ok?

The girl was sweating like crazy. Went and got a lady in one of the shops to call an ambo, got a glass of water and wet cloth to whipe her brow with and try and cool her down some. She couldn't even reach for her glass of water let alone hold it. I had to place her hand round it.

I couldn't help but think to myself.. "What if that was my child collapsed on a public toilet floor" what if that was my child and someone who couldn't care less stepped over them so they could "wash their hands" and go back to their daily business. that is a very horrible thought.


I'm sure if it was their child they would have gave two fucks.

:bash:

your an angel :2thumbsup ...and I'm alarmed at what you observed...I can't believe no-one stopped to help....obviously a bunch of selfish wankers in whaga's [apart from you dear]

[Brett]

I find it really off that someone would not stop to help another person like that. It's a very callous person that acts like that, good on you for stopping tho.

[Dadpole]

Usual practice these days seems to be take pics or a video. God help any arsehole I see doing that instead of helping. :mad:

Great to know you did the right thing.

[NotaGoth]

your an angel :2thumbsup ...and I'm alarmed at what you observed...I can't believe no-one stopped to help....obviously a bunch of selfish wankers in whaga's [apart from you dear]

The girl was maori. All that stepped over her were white. ONE lady stopped and asked what was happening after we had the girl resting up waiting for the ambo. Funny thing is this woman was maori herself. Funny that. But then again who am I to make these comments. I'm white myself and yet both mum and I noticed that.

[Zed]

Good on you & your Mum for helping her out Kittie...unfortunately you are correct about "some people", sad world we live in at times. :(

[cowpoos]

The girl was maori. All that stepped over her were white. ONE lady stopped and asked what was happening after we had the girl resting up waiting for the ambo. Funny thing is this woman was maori herself. Funny that. But then again who am I to make these comments. I'm white myself and yet both mum and I noticed that.

your right...I have seen blatent racism first hand my self...when young moari lad got hit gentally off his bike by a car...drive yeahs out the windo...keep outta the fuckin way boy...and he stood up a bit wobbly with a bleeding head and arm...and no-one offered to help and heaps of people were looking at him...I walked over and asked if he's okay...and he just said...nah sweet bro...and took off....hard buggar!!!

[NotaGoth]

your right...I have seen blatent racism first hand my self...when young moari lad got hit gentally off his bike by a car...drive yeahs out the windo...keep outta the fuckin way boy...and he stood up a bit wobbly with a bleeding head and arm...and no-one offered to help and heaps of people were looking at him...I walked over and asked if he's okay...and he just said...nah sweet bro...and took off....hard buggar!!!

Willing to stare but not help hey. Kind of reminded me of today again. Least you had the balls to go check he was ok.

[KLOWN]

that is just disgusting! This is NZ! Whangarei isn't even a large place in nz. Makes you want to punch the fucker who stepped over the girl. Good on you for helping her out.

[John]

you know whats worse, it happens more than once everyday - people just stop caring its called desensitising (sp). I was in the park and noticed a young asian girl walking through the bush - I saw a group of young "gansters" who I see outside the shelter on my way to work if I go the long way, so I decided to go up top and watch and make sure they didnt try anything - guess what they did - but I just shouted and they fucked off. broad daylight. fucken makes you sick - the amount of shit around here would keep some of you south aucklanders wondering

shot kittie, why didnt you come see me again :( I missed you... ahaha. FUCK you were the one that put that black powder on my bike eh?

[John]

I would also like to say BOOBIES

[NotaGoth]

you know whats worse, it happens more than once everyday - people just stop caring its called desensitising (sp). I was in the park and noticed a young asian girl walking through the bush - I saw a group of young "gansters" who I see outside the shelter on my way to work if I go the long way, so I decided to go up top and watch and make sure they didnt try anything - guess what they did - but I just shouted and they fucked off. broad daylight. fucken makes you sick - the amount of shit around here would keep some of you south aucklanders wondering

shot kittie, why didnt you come see me again :( I missed you... ahaha. FUCK you were the one that put that black powder on my bike eh?

That the park by farmers? If so I learnt not to go anywhere near there. Whangarei is actually turning into a very horrible place to be.



Sorry I thought I would leave you to your cucumbers. Plus I was tired and looked wasted off my face. Nice bike btw, powder was not me though.

[NotaGoth]

I would also like to say BOOBIES


You're a fruit lol..

[Sniper]

Give her a kick in the ribs. Would have stopped her seeking attention

EDIT: Sorry bad night

[NotaGoth]

Give her a kick in the ribs. Would have stopped her seeking attention

EDIT: Sorry bad night

Take your bad night else where then. I had a bad day seeing some of the shit I seen today, not just over this bullshit in the mall but other crap that went on.

EDIT: sorry I'm tired and cranky. Ask John, I looked half ready to throw a tantrum this arvo!

[John]

That the park by farmers? If so I learnt not to go anywhere near there. Whangarei is actually turning into a very horrible place to be.



Sorry I thought I would leave you to your cucumbers. Plus I was tired and looked wasted off my face. Nice bike btw, powder was not me though.

Yea, I go there every night after work to have a break - I dont get much trouble - but I wouldnt let my daughter if I had one go anywhere near that fucken place.



Sorry I thought I would leave you to your cucumbers. Plus I was tired and looked wasted off my face. Nice bike btw, powder was not me though.
Awwwww, sucks - thanks - I have 2 days off, is that us :blip:?

[Sniper]

Nah, fuckit. I would have helped her up and but I wouldnt have walked over her, but at the same time I would like to know that she wasn't going to accuse me of indecent acts when she woke up. Im not MDU

[NotaGoth]

Yea, I go there every night after work to have a break - I dont get much trouble - but I wouldnt let my daughter if I had one go anywhere near that fucken place.


Awwwww, sucks - thanks - I have 2 days off, is that us :blip:?


I wouldn't let my daughter out on the street in Whangarei, not til shes....... erm.. old old.. LOL

God you even get stepped out on the street by wannabe shitheads who think they are cool just cause their jeans hang down round their ankles. Hell I've even been cussed out in the street for not saying hi to someone who I didn't even know.

Shall I reject you in front of everyone?

[John]

I wouldn't let my daughter out on the street in Whangarei, not til shes....... erm.. old old.. LOL
In that case, they would beat her up and take her shit still they are fucken brainless shitheads, I got fucken talked up because I didnt give this fucken p'd out cunt my lighter, fucked if I am giving him a fucken lighter to smoke p.


God you even get stepped out on the street by wannabe shitheads who think they are cool just cause their jeans hang down round their ankles. Hell I've even been cussed out in the street for not saying hi to someone who I didn't even know.
funniest thing I ever had was this crazy little cunt tried to step me out while I rode past him I was like wtf? :banana: he was like 12 or something poor little fucks I would love to kick some parents in the head around here.


Shall I reject you in front of everyone?
I think everyone is used of seeing it. :yes:

[NotaGoth]

In that case, they would beat her up and take her shit still they are fucken brainless shitheads, I got fucken talked up because I didnt give this fucken p'd out cunt my lighter, fucked if I am giving him a fucken lighter to smoke p.

funniest thing I ever had was this crazy little cunt tried to step me out while I rode past him I was like wtf? :banana: he was like 12 or something poor little fucks I would love to kick some parents in the head around here.


I think everyone is used of seeing it. :yes:

I had someone eye me up to steal my handbag once.. yes... my pink and white handbag.. *cough* til a friend told me to sit the hell down cause she noticed what was going on.. Not 5mins later you see the same girl attacking this little asian lady and stealing her shoes!

[Ixion]

I would also like to say BOOBIES

So would I . Boobies. and, again, boobies. Even, titties. Ah , that's better.

[John]

So would I . Boobies. and, again, boobies. Even, titties. Ah , that's better.
I would like to expand on that with the following; The vagina is the passage leading from the opening of the vulva to the cervix of the uterus in female mammals.

always a step to far my father would've said...

[NotaGoth]

So would I . Boobies. and, again, boobies. Even, titties. Ah , that's better.

Remind me to never shut you two in a room together.

[Ixion]

Female mammals? Have you been messing with them sheeps again, boy?

[Sniper]

Your wish is my command

NWS

[Cibby]

isnt that sort of thing normal in whangarei???

[John]

Female mammals? Have you been messing with them sheeps again, boy?
I tried to say no, but they kept beeeeeeeeegging for morrrrrrrreee...

oh the comic value just fails to escape me, look at the mess we have made, and sniper, sorry but thats disgusting, I see no sheep in those dirty adult pictures.

[Sniper]

Yes Cibby, it is :laugh:

[John]

isnt that sort of thing normal in whangarei???
come to mine, and we will find out...

OH BURN YEA THATS RIGHT TAKE IT!

[Sniper]

Just for John

[John]

Just for John
hot porn +10

[NotaGoth]

isnt that sort of thing normal in whangarei???

Apparently so. I don't live there so I'm only now becoming aware of what the place is like.

[Sniper]

Thats oh so scary, but farking funny

[John]

Apparently so. I don't live there so I'm only now becoming aware of what the place is like.
its only this bad around christmas, and it is thursday remeber so government payouts dpb and shit means that it gets real messy out there, cops work extra hard tonight.

[mstriumph]

sad

good thing you and yer mum were there, kitty

[skidMark]

to make a comic cocktail......

mix :

1 part ixion

1 part sniper

with a generous helping of john

and stir until you can stop laughing :killingme

[skidMark]

Just for John

is that john's daughter?

you seriously need to spend less time with those sheep john

if it's half sheep half john does that make cannabilism ok?:lol:

[Sniper]

is that john's daughter?



Thats not nice, its john dream girl

[John]

Thats not nice, its john dream girl
I hope that my daughter looks that good - I will lock her in the barn until she is 22 then I will set her with the other sheep - dont want her doing the naughty till she got over cause damn thats some ass - wonder if she needs dagging... mmm

[skidMark]

mate we don't wanna know what ud do with that tail after shed gone to the butcher

[Sniper]

Hahahaha, thats just wrong

[John]

mate we don't wanna know what ud do with that tail after shed gone to the butcher
what I'd do, or what I did when I was working in butchery?

[Damon]

Sorry to bring the tread back on track but Holy Shit Kittie! good on you for helping, this country needs alot more people like you, as for me i would've found some one else to help or called an ambo but it's just not worth a guy getting anywhere near her, i'd probibly be spending a night in the cells for male assult female or rape or something stupid.....is it me or does our country suck like that?? any way, you qualify for some bling

[Eurodave]

Ive only got one thing to say about the 3 girls in the middle pic...... ickypoooos, [this from a confirmed breast man]

[inlinefour]

Well done for doing the descient thing and the responsible thing. Last time I was there I could see and hear the attitude. I go up there on a regular basis to see my son and I allways get warned about the place. Last time I wore on of my "Taranaki Hard Core" garmets (local surf label). I kept getting asked if it was a Taranaki local gang!! I laughed each time, until someone came up behind me and tried to pick a fight.
Must be a Northland thing? The first time I was in Auckland by myself I got involved in an arguement. Three skin heads was hassling a young asian couple in Queen Street, who I picked knew little english. At that stage I had a shaved head, rolled up jeans & black leather mack boots. One pulled a knife so I hit him. The whole country is becoming more and more like America. If you do help, your damned, the skinhead tried to get me charged and I can be sued as a RN helping out in the community. If you don't help, then your a dyslexic maggot with a lack of morals.:moon:

[NotaGoth]

Well done for doing the descient thing and the responsible thing. Last time I was there I could see and hear the attitude. I go up there on a regular basis to see my son and I allways get warned about the place. Last time I wore on of my "Taranaki Hard Core" garmets (local surf label). I kept getting asked if it was a Taranaki local gang!! I laughed each time, until someone came up behind me and tried to pick a fight.
Must be a Northland thing? The first time I was in Auckland by myself I got involved in an arguement. Three skin heads was hassling a young asian couple in Queen Street, who I picked knew little english. At that stage I had a shaved head, rolled up jeans & black leather mack boots. One pulled a knife so I hit him. The whole country is becoming more and more like America. If you do help, your damned, the skinhead tried to get me charged and I can be sued as a RN helping out in the community. If you don't help, then your a dyslexic maggot with a lack of morals.:moon:

I've also been warned about the place. Have been wanting to move down there for some time and I have been warned again and again not to. Maybe I should take peoples advice and avoid that area and think of moving somewhere else instead. Reckon you could be in the gutter bleeding to death and someone would rather steal your handbag, clothes or shoes than help you out.

Never had a problem in Auckland as yet. Though I had a hooker follow me around calling me a bitch and wanting a scrap cause she tried to get some from the guy I was dating at the time and his friend. they turned her down so she felt the need to follow us around for a while.

Sadly theres no where that you can go to get away from this type of bullshit. So what do you do? :spudwhat:

[ManDownUnder]

Your wish is my command

NWS

I'll take a tasy handful and some copper to go please...

[NotaGoth]

Sorry to bring the tread back on track but Holy Shit Kittie! good on you for helping, this country needs alot more people like you, as for me i would've found some one else to help or called an ambo but it's just not worth a guy getting anywhere near her, i'd probibly be spending a night in the cells for male assult female or rape or something stupid.....is it me or does our country suck like that?? any way, you qualify for some bling

Sadly I can understand where your coming from. Its because of people that do things like that, that innocent people who only want to help get themselves in shit up to their neck because someone stupidly decides to point the finger. If I was male I would do the same thing, and gone and gotten another female.

[ManDownUnder]

Hey kittie,

:niceone: for caring. That's awesome and (as I think you observed) it makes you stand out from the crowd. Never stop doing that.

Lots of people talk (do unto others etc), but very few people do something about it. I'm willing to be a lot of them walking past/over/around got that "twinge" of shock seeing someone in distress but quickly "got over it". You didn't - again... never stop doing that.

You dun good hun :first:

[inlinefour]

Sadly theres no where that you can go to get away from this type of bullshit. So what do you do? :spudwhat:

Although there is minor B/S happening in New Plymouth, its nothing like what is happening up there. Although i suspect that its just a matter of time before it si:eyepoke:
My way of dealing with is avoiding it when I can. Although I allways feel abliged(sp) to help those in trouble. I'm seriously considering moving to the south island and I reckon I'll live there within the next decade. The people down there have a different outlook on life and get on with it.
Also I want to buy a small block of land (15 hectares) one day and I reckon down there would be the go. Although I'll be waiting awhile for the finances to be able to do it.:wait:

[NotaGoth]

Although there is minor B/S happening in New Plymouth, its nothing like what is happening up there. Although i suspect that its just a matter of time before it si:eyepoke:
My way of dealing with is avoiding it when I can. Although I allways feel abliged(sp) to help those in trouble. I'm seriously considering moving to the south island and I reckon I'll live there within the next decade. The people down there have a different outlook on life and get on with it.
Also I want to buy a small block of land (15 hectares) one day and I reckon down there would be the go. Although I'll be waiting awhile for the finances to be able to do it.:wait:

I have considered stuffing off to aussie, have a place there and my aunt and uncle have been asking me to come over. All I'd have to do is sell my car and I'd be gone. hmm... something to really really consider....

[inlinefour]

I have considered stuffing off to aussie, have a place there and my aunt and uncle have been asking me to come over. All I'd have to do is sell my car and I'd be gone. hmm... something to really really consider....

hate to tell you this, but its way worse over there. I also have family over there and someplaces you just dont go out after dark in aussie.

[NotaGoth]

hate to tell you this, but its way worse over there. I also have family over there and someplaces you just dont go out after dark in aussie.

yep but some places are nice, just like here in NZ. It was talked about that I went over there once before. But particular things kept me here. Mums not moving over there now but its still been talked about that I go over. Got nothing keeping me here anymore so what have I got to lose? :P

[DMNTD]

....obviously a bunch of selfish wankers in whaga's [apart from you dear]

Only been here(Whangarei) 6ish months now but have noticed a general ignorance about.
There's also a genuine racist undercurrent going on which surprises me fully having moved from Hokianga...opposite there,less Honkies. I don't understand racist attitudes personally,people are people....wankers everywhere:tugger:
In short nah not all "selfish wankers" but a healthy potition certainly dished this way. Nothing like Auck's tho...:bleh::blip:

[NotaGoth]

Only been here(Whangarei) 6ish months now but have noticed a general ignorance about.
There's also a genuine racist undercurrent going on which surprises me fully having moved from Hokianga...opposite there,less Honkies. I don't understand racist attitudes personally,people are people....wankers everywhere:tugger:
In short nah not all "selfish wankers" but a healthy potition certainly dished this way. Nothing like Auck's tho...:bleh::blip:

I dunno maybe living in tiny little towns you miss out on seeing these sorts of things. I've only noticed it since I started going to Whangarei. Did start noticing it in Kerikeri also, but not as bad as what its like down there.

[John]

just wear leathers. You will be all good.

[DMNTD]

just wear leathers. You will be all good.
Are ya flirting again boy? :blip: ...just waitng on my GSXR1000 from Maunders:wait: ...zero sleeps and 2-4 hours to go!

I found in Hoki,Kittie, that everyone did help ya out but then again it was small enough that most at least knew of ya anyways so if they didn't ya could hassle the buggers later:bash: :lol:
Nearly got myself mugged 3 weeks ago by the bus station here in Whangaz! LOL..was a good giggle. Thought 8 against me was a little harsh but there ya go. Just hope next time there aren't more of 'em.
Baggy pants crews...what that all about??????????

[NotaGoth]

just wear leathers. You will be all good.


And carry a whip? And cuff yourself to a sign post? John thats hot..

[DMNTD]

And carry a whip? And cuff yourself to a sign post? John thats hot......back off gurl he's mine....well,first anyway:buggerd:

[Brett]

slowly this placing is turning into south africa...we left that place for its shit, and this country is slowly rolling down the same hill. Too many ganster wannabes causing grief.

[NotaGoth]

I found in Hoki,Kittie, that everyone did help ya out but then again it was small enough that most at least knew of ya anyways so if they didn't ya could hassle the buggers later:bash: :lol:
Nearly got myself mugged 3 weeks ago by the bus station here in Whangaz! LOL..was a good giggle. Thought 8 against me was a little harsh but there ya go. Just hope next time there aren't more of 'em.
Baggy pants crews...what that all about??????????


Its like that where I live too. Everyone knows everyone. Can't take a shit without someone knowing. And what they don't know they make up.

My brother went through the baggy pants stage. til we told him male prostitutes in america wear their pants down round their arse like that. (apparently its true too)

Yes well fair warning, even the little courtyard and that by the mall, people will have a shot at mugging you in there. Right out in the open too. Nice to see the cops doing the rounds now though.

[NotaGoth]

....back off gurl he's mine....well,first anyway:buggerd:


Its ok, I like sloppy seconds. :nya:

[DMNTD]

Its ok, I like sloppy seconds. :nya:
....brown,white or RAW sugar with that porridge Kittie?:bleh:

[John]

oh jesus TL is a fruit loop to - well thats it whangarei is full of fucken fruit loops.

[NotaGoth]

....brown,white or RAW sugar with that porridge Kittie?:bleh:


brown with a little milk..

[Fart]

Always good to help out.

Giving is for people who have a heart and soul.

Good on ya.

[DMNTD]

oh jesus TL is a fruit loop to - well thats it whangarei is full of fucken fruit loops....speak up dood,I can't hear ya with the pillow in ya gob:blip:
On its way to thee Kittie....purrrrrrrrrrrrrr:bleh:

[Grahameeboy]

slowly this placing is turning into south africa...we left that place for its shit, and this country is slowly rolling down the same hill. Too many ganster wannabes causing grief.

What planet are you on......NZ is not going down the same hill and never will......sorry but I was not born here and NZ is safe as houses compared to the rest of the world.....just look at all the positives..

Bikers rule when it comes to helping others....how many car drivers get together like Sunday 18th and do Toy Runs to Starship....we have more of a appreciation of what is important so good on us......it does not matter that we do not get acolades, it only matters that the people we touch notice because we are not arrogant.....

That's my bit over.....

[outlawtorn]

I was standing outside a shop in the Whangarei mall today. A girl came and sat on the window ledge of a shop. Next thing you know I hear "could you please help me?" I was cautious at first wether it was a trick to get me close enough to snatch my bag (horrible to have to think like that I know)

I got close enough and asked her what was wrong. She told me she felt dizzy and didn't feel all to good at all. Again she said "please help me" Next thing you know her eyes rolled up in her head and she collapsed on the floor. I tried supporting her all I could. Did anyone walking past bother to help? No. I don't think so. Did any stop to see if we were ok? Hell if "she" was ok? Nope.

she kind of sat on the floor for a minute then got up again. Told me she had to go to the bathroom. I left it at that. Something had me worried though and I decided to find mum. Told her what happened. She then asked me where she had gone just incase she collasped again.

Sure enough we found her in the public toilet collapsed on the floor. While people stepped over her body to get to the sink to wash her hands. Like wtf? You see someone collasped on the damn floor like that wouldn't it raise a brow? Wouldn't you at least ask if they were ok?

The girl was sweating like crazy. Went and got a lady in one of the shops to call an ambo, got a glass of water and wet cloth to whipe her brow with and try and cool her down some. She couldn't even reach for her glass of water let alone hold it. I had to place her hand round it.

I couldn't help but think to myself.. "What if that was my child collapsed on a public toilet floor" what if that was my child and someone who couldn't care less stepped over them so they could "wash their hands" and go back to their daily business. that is a very horrible thought.


I'm sure if it was their child they would have gave two fucks.

:bash:
Thank you for helping that girl, hopefully your kindness will be paid forward to you. The world needs more people like you and your mom. I can see this from the girls perspective as I am a Type 1 Diabetic and something like that could happen to me and I would be relying on the public to help me out.

Good on you.

[John]

...speak up dood,I can't hear ya with the pillow in ya gob:blip:
On its way to thee Kittie....purrrrrrrrrrrrrr:bleh:
Put the kitty down and step away from the vtwin sir.

[outlawtorn]

slowly this placing is turning into south africa...we left that place for its shit, and this country is slowly rolling down the same hill. Too many ganster wannabes causing grief.
Dude it'll only turn into South Africa if we let it, and the people here in NZ will not let that happen. Don't be so negative, keep a positive frame of mind.

[Grahameeboy]

Dude it'll only turn into South Africa if we let it, and the people here in NZ will not let that happen. Don't be so negative, keep a positive frame of mind.

Yeah right on......:rockon:

[NotaGoth]

Dude it'll only turn into South Africa if we let it, and the people here in NZ will not let that happen. Don't be so negative, keep a positive frame of mind.

Slowly it is going to turn into a place like that because sadly people are letting it get that way. Sorry but I have to agree with the guy.

People just honestly don't give a shit and it is starting to show in many small ways. Soon it will be in bigger ways.

[John]

I really dont think it is, south africa is um... ALOT worse the stuff we have here happens in their kindergardens.

[NotaGoth]

Thank you for helping that girl, hopefully your kindness will be paid forward to you. The world needs more people like you and your mom. I can see this from the girls perspective as I am a Type 1 Diabetic and something like that could happen to me and I would be relying on the public to help me out.

Good on you.

Well this is the world we live in. What if that girl was you? You could have died on that public toilet floor because people were to heartless to stop and see if you were ok.

I don't know what was wrong with her, but the ambo did take her away.

This showed me that you can't rely on the public anymore. Because it could be just your luck that no one who actually cares finds you if your ever in that sort of situation.

[DMNTD]

Put the kitty down and step away from the vtwin sir.
Never!! I love puddy cats!:whistle:
As far as the V Twin is concerned I'll be stepping away from it this arvo when it is traded on my new GSXR1000:wari: :wari: :wari: :wari:
....but then again I can always ride my Lady's TL too:moon:

[MidnightMike]

Auckland is starting 2 become a pretty dangerous place 2 live these days, especially south auckland with all the try hard gangsters beating the crap out of each other with fucking fenceposts. :bash:

[NotaGoth]

Never!! I love puddy cats!:whistle:


They have lots of nice kittens at the pet shop in whangarei. I wanted to bring one home for Christmas but I wasn't allowed :(

[Grahameeboy]

Auckland is starting 2 become a pretty dangerous place 2 live these days, especially south auckland with all the try hard gangsters beating the crap out of each other with fucking fenceposts. :bash:

So it is only dangerous to join a gang then....doesn't make it dangerous for anyone else so still cannot see how Auckland is becoming a dangerous place......let the gangs kick shit out of eachother leaving the rest of us safe.......better still lets donate them some fence posts and they can wipe themselves out........the world is not perfect but NZ is close.......

Sorry, this is something that is sad to hear from what appears to be a minority.

[DMNTD]

So it is only dangerous to join a gang then....doesn't make it dangerous for anyone else so still cannot see how Auckland is becoming a dangerous place......let the gangs kick shit out of eachother leaving the rest of us safe.......better still lets donate them some fence posts and they can wipe themselves out........the world is not perfect but NZ is close......

Agree and disagree mate. It is dangerous for the rest of us with the baggy pants and P freaks attempting to attack as they believe that they are something/someone that they are not,hard done by....or whatever their lame arse excuses are. They have NO idea how fortunate we are here. Sad...
Would be good to get them in a ring and tell 'em to go hard. Would pay coin to see that:yes:
In saying that I too believe that NZ must be one of the safer places on our planet. Wouldn't want to live anywhere else! Gorgeous too:yes:

[MidnightMike]

Thats actually a good idea. :niceone:

[NotaGoth]

So it is only dangerous to join a gang then....doesn't make it dangerous for anyone else so still cannot see how Auckland is becoming a dangerous place......let the gangs kick shit out of eachother leaving the rest of us safe.......better still lets donate them some fence posts and they can wipe themselves out........the world is not perfect but NZ is close.......

Sorry, this is something that is sad to hear from what appears to be a minority.


Ok heres an example to show its not just affecting people in gangs. you walk down the street and you "look round" accidently look at "someone" they then beat the crap out of you. true or not true? if you say not true then here is an example for you.

A girl I work with. Nice pretty young thing, happened to "look" at a guy. Now she has a boyfriend of her own, but this "look" was taken wrong.

Not long later 2 girls followed her to the toilet at work and beat the crap out of her. When I say beat the crap out of her, I mean it. She collapsed on the floor, where they continued kicking her, and kicked her head again and again. When she was found she was unconcious.

Its not just gang related. All you have to do is look at someone, and they, or someone else may not like it.



Define perfect? In my eyes perfect does not exist. I mean, how do we know what perfect is? Perfect is what we think and assume things are meant to be like.

[MidnightMike]

Some of them are only like 10. Three little "gangsters" :lol: were gettn smart 2 some seniors @ my school and these guys were like 4 feet tall, and when some teachers came out they attacked the teachers with like a piece of metal. WTF . Then when the seniors tried to leave they had rocks thrown @ their car. Double WTF. Some of this shit is just comes down to the parents.

[outlawtorn]

Some of them are only like 10. Three little "gangsters" :lol: were gettn smart 2 some seniors @ my school and these guys were like 4 feet tall, and when some teachers came out they attacked the teachers with like a piece of metal. WTF . Then when the seniors tried to leave they had rocks thrown @ their car. Double WTF. Some of this shit is just comes down to the parents.
99% of it comes down to the parents......

[Grahameeboy]

Ok heres an example to show its not just affecting people in gangs. you walk down the street and you "look round" accidently look at "someone" they then beat the crap out of you. true or not true? if you say not true then here is an example for you.

A girl I work with. Nice pretty young thing, happened to "look" at a guy. Now she has a boyfriend of her own, but this "look" was taken wrong.

Not long later 2 girls followed her to the toilet at work and beat the crap out of her. When I say beat the crap out of her, I mean it. She collapsed on the floor, where they continued kicking her, and kicked her head again and again. When she was found she was unconcious.

Its not just gang related. All you have to do is look at someone, and they, or someone else may not like it.



Define perfect? In my eyes perfect does not exist. I mean, how do we know what perfect is? Perfect is what we think and assume things are meant to be like.

Hey lets not allow one thing to exagerate things eh?....look around the rest of the world and we have it pretty easy here.

I was in Africa and the local villagers caught a couple of thieves and set fire to them.......does that happen here?

I went to some pretty tough schools in London where most of the year above ended up in jail when they left school and they would enjoy lining up along a fenced playground and then just move in beating the crap out of everyone who got in the way.......this was every week.....so there may...not saying it should happen but there may have been some background to that incident (there often is) and there is no smoke wihout fire.......not saying it is right and if I had seen it I would have helped...

Remember gangs etc have been around a few hundred years.....it's not new.....maybe because we have a lot more luxuries now we highten things that have been happening a while.....who knows?

Perfect is just making the best of things.......and looking at the positives in life.

Hey I thought it was just us Brits who complained......

[NotaGoth]

Hey lets not allow one thing to exagerate things eh?....look around the rest of the world and we have it pretty easy here.

I was in Africa and the local villagers caught a couple of thieves and set fire to them.......does that happen here?

I went to some pretty tough schools in London where most of the year above ended up in jail when they left school and they would enjoy lining up along a fenced playground and then just move in beating the crap out of everyone who got in the way.......this was every week.....so there may...not saying it should happen but there may have been some background to that incident (there often is) and there is no smoke wihout fire.......not saying it is right and if I had seen it I would have helped...

Remember gangs etc have been around a few hundred years.....it's not new.....maybe because we have a lot more luxuries now we highten things that have been happening a while.....who knows?

Perfect is just making the best of things.......and looking at the positives in life.

Hey I thought it was just us Brits who complained......

Yes we have it pretty easy but the fact is still there that we are losing the good NZ that we have. And it is happening because there are alot of people who just don't care.

[Grahameeboy]

Yes we have it pretty easy but the fact is still there that we are losing the good NZ that we have. And it is happening because there are alot of people who just don't care.

Sorry you feel that way.......I think more people care than you realise......Nelson Mandela cared, he was one of a few who did and made sacrifices......okay bad luck that when he got released the world was in a recession so he did not get the support he wanted and things went backwards a bit, so whilst there are still some problems in South Africa it is better than it was so there has to be hope.......

I don't like arguing with women so all I will say is try not to let the bad things cloud you.....

[SpeedyGirl]

Well done helping out...am impressed!! Move to ChCh we need more nice people down here....and it has not got out of control quite yet

[thehollowmen]

Well done helping out...am impressed!! Move to ChCh we need more nice people down here....and it has not got out of control quite yet

half the reason I'm moving up

1001 posts :-D

[danb]

For those who think Auckland is safe - take a walk around slum areas like Otara - I study there at mit I am getting quite concerned for my own saftey there now - Have been there 3 years now and I can see it getting worse over the time I have been there. People don’t care for there own lives let alone others. I do agree New Zealand is slowly becoming like South Africa. I have spoken to fallow South Africans and they agree to.
Most of it is to do with the parents and there attitudes - Most parents are to busy to care what there kids are up to which is understandable in today’s society. I say bring back the good old Kane and shed a few tears. The teachers of today’s world are to scared to do or say anything towards discipline a child in fear they will loose there job. What use is this? Just think of how the Animal world deals with young. (You may thinks this is absurd but I will leave you to think about it. The Animal world except Humans, has not changed anything to speak of at all but Humans have... WHY?)

[KLOWN]

For those who think Auckland is safe - take a walk around slum areas like Otara - I study there at mit I am getting quite concerned for my own saftey there now - Have been there 3 years now and I can see it getting worse over the time I have been there. People don’t care for there own lives let alone others. I do agree New Zealand is slowly becoming like South Africa. I have spoken to fallow South Africans and they agree to.
Most of it is to do with the parents and there attitudes - Most parents are to busy to care what there kids are up to which is understandable in today’s society. I say bring back the good old Kane and shed a few tears. The teachers of today’s world are to scared to do or say anything towards discipline a child in fear they will loose there job. What use is this? Just think of how the Animal world deals with young. (You may thinks this is absurd but I will leave you to think about it. The Animal world except Humans, has not changed anything to speak of at all but Humans have... WHY?)

Teachers aren't just worried about thier jobs, sometimes the student is biigger then them and you don't know what thier mates are like. Also the parents are shit heads too. (don't you speak like that to my kid etc)

[John]

What use is this? Just think of how the Animal world deals with young. (You may thinks this is absurd but I will leave you to think about it. The Animal world except Humans, has not changed anything to speak of at all but Humans have... WHY?)

um, maybe thousands of years of constant evolution. :killingme

[KLOWN]

I don't like arguing with women so all I will say is try not to let the bad things cloud you.....

Is that you don brash? I didn't know u had a bike. hehehe

[Karma]

The real problem is a lack of two things;

1. Education - This is not the teachers fault... it's everyones fault. Parents can teach their own kids but don't seem to want to (apart from Wolf who I've noted seems to be a great father / role model).
Would you for instance tolerate an increase in taxes to expand the schooling system.
For instance kids here have to buy their own books and pencils and shit, that's third world man, and what about the fact that NZ primarys do not teach history, or geography or art or music or anything that stands us apart from the animals. What about the fact that kids don't get proper meals from schools and therefore go all day without eating a hot meal (anyone here remember Jamies School Dinners from the UK??). What about the fact that they don't get any proper PE lessons, teaching anything other than running around a field... and how about sports other than rugby? tennis / football / anything. Take the all blacks out of the equision, what does this country excell at?

2. Kids don't want to learn. Period. What's the old saying, you can take a horse to water but you can't make it drink. Well there will always be some people that don't want to learn because it's easier not to, and they don't have the balls to do something if it's too hard.


Sounds like a rant I know... but in many ways this country is fuckin backwards... Labours going on about being ranked 5th in OECD this and that shit is crap. You have no free public health system, your schools are a joke, most people can't drive properly, food is way more expensive than it should be, and don't even get me started on the condition of some of the roads here!!!

The real shame is that this country could be so great if someone got off their ass... fired all the PC law-making wankers and get Kiwis moving into the 21st fucking century.

I'm off to register my name for the next MEP ballot!!

[John]

To put it simply weasel tried to say the following, but is yet to adapt kiwispeak, so here is the translation;


The real problem is a lack of two things;

1. Penis

2. 2xballs

[KLOWN]

I agree. I also want to add that ALOT of blame should be placed on parents. I knew alot of people where i worked who had kids when they were teenagers or early twenties and they don't teach thier kids respect. The mum or dad will tell the kids to do something and the children will say 'fuck off' or something similar and the parents think its funny or a joke then one day when the kid says this and the parents have had a bad day the child gets a hiding. He/she is so confused they have been taught it was ok to act like this then one day BAM and they don't know what they've done wrong. It's no wonder violence is becoming more prominant in todays society. Also it used to be ok if another parent/adult told your child off if they saw them doing something wrong, now you don;t want to incase the parent of that child get told about it and comes round to give you a hiding for treating thier child in like that. The reason why the child was told off in the first place get completly ignored and the kid get off scott free.

[froggyfrenchman]

Good on ya for stopping, i wouldnt have helped, too scared of being branded a rapist. What was i doin in the woman's dunny anyway you may ask? Its a secret

[SlashWylde]

For those who think Auckland is safe - take a walk around slum areas like Otara - I study there at mit I am getting quite concerned for my own saftey there now - Have been there 3 years now and I can see it getting worse over the time I have been there. People don’t care for there own lives let alone others. I do agree New Zealand is slowly becoming like South Africa. I have spoken to fallow South Africans and they agree to.
Most of it is to do with the parents and there attitudes - Most parents are to busy to care what there kids are up to which is understandable in today’s society. I say bring back the good old Kane and shed a few tears. The teachers of today’s world are to scared to do or say anything towards discipline a child in fear they will loose there job. What use is this? Just think of how the Animal world deals with young. (You may thinks this is absurd but I will leave you to think about it. The Animal world except Humans, has not changed anything to speak of at all but Humans have... WHY?)

I dunno. True there have been a lot of changes in our society over the last 10 or 20 years in terms of how people treat one another, and with the advent of P-related crimes the place is just that much scarier and more random, but I honestly don't think Otara or any of the other so-called lower socioeconomic areas of Auckland (can't speak for any other part of the country) are that dangerous.

I'm a white European, I lived the first 28 years of my life in Glen Innes and Pt England, supposedly two of the more dangerous suburbs in Auckland, largely populated by Maori and polynesians who are the ethnic groups us white folk are supposed to fear most right? Never had any troubles what so ever with people taking me on, trying to mug me etc.

Now I live in Eaqst Tamaki, just a short hop away from Otara, and I too go to MIT (Electronic Engineering BTW danb) I feel the same about the place as I did in Glen Innes and Pt England. There are a lot of people whom you feel you ought to fear because of what scociety and the media tell you but on the whole nothing ever happens.

Still, it pays to be prepared and stay casually on your guard. A bit of Karate or Kick Boxing training helps give you a measure of confidence and security.

[SlashWylde]

As a counter point to my last post in this thread, the one time I did have to go to full red alert was in a pub in Waihi - I think it was called the "Sterling". Me my sister and a female friend of hers shot over there from Thames on a Friday night to see 'Gary Harvey and the Night Owls' - a really cool southern blues/rock band. We each got ourselves a drink and parked ourselves up at a bench to watch the band.

Pretty soon a BIG Maori guy (big like over 120kg) came over and started babbling incomprehensibly to us in a very drunk but friendly way. OK, so we smiled and left him to it, but he wouldn't leave us in peace and then started trying to put his arm around my sister's friend so I went over to him and chatted in a friendly way and asked him to just move along. I shook his very large and strong hand and that was that.

A bit later one of the white locals leaned over to me and whispered in my ear "watch your money and drinks around that guy..." to which I said thanks.

We just kept a low profile, I diddn't want to cause a ruckus and take on this guy. You don't know how the locals are going to react if some skinny (I'm 71kg and 5'8") white city-boy comes into their town and starts up a fight. Could turn real nasty real quick if you miss-judge things - feckin front-page stuff.

Well, the drunk kept hanging around, but my friend the local would stop by occasionally to let me know he and his mates were keeping an eye on the dude and that they had my back - very good of them.

Eventually the drunk guy started being a real nuisance and wouldn't leave my sisters mate alone and was going too far, so I stepped up to him and firmly told him to move off and leave us alone. He wouldn't budge and tried to loom over me so I pushed him back, he pushed me and it was about to come to blows but the friendly locals stepped in and put themselves between us, then moved the drunk along.

Strange part was I wasn't the least bit scared 'cause I was sober and knew I could move much faster than him, and had judged the feeling in the bar correctly.

Was a very weird night for a few other reasons too, the whole vibe and attitude of the people in that place was completely different to what I'm used to. There was an edge to the atmosphere, the locals were hard-as, it felt dangerous, and I knew as soon as we stepped into the pub that we were out of place and diddn't belong - when people asked where we were from, I said Thames, as I'm sick of the predjudice the rest of the country seems to have against Aucklanders and diddn't feel like dealing wiht it.

BTW Good on ya Kittie, I'm a certified first-aid'er and I'd have gone straight to that girls aid if I saw the same thing happen. It's sad that Political Correctness would stop some men from helping out a semi-concious female for fear of false accusation.

[Pixie]

It's sad that Political Correctness would stop some men from helping out a semi-concious female for fear of false accusation.
Ah yes,PC is creating such a wonderful world

[kro]

Big thumbs up for helping out Kittie, its evident no other selfish bastard would have.

I found a little girl in the warehouse this morning, coincidentally, she got separated from her mum, and noone would help the poor child, she was only 4 ish, so I scooped her up, and settled her down, and we went looking for, and eventually found Mum, who was frantic her baby had been abducted (sad but true)

People just dont care anymore, they are either busy shopping, or driving somewhere, and wont deviate from their chosen path to alleviate someone elses grief. I'm a firm believer in the saying "charity begins at home", which I dont always intrpret in the literal sense, but refer to home as "NZ".

[SPman]

and I knew as soon as we stepped into the pub that we were out of place and diddn't belong - when people asked where we were from, I said Thames, as I'm sick of the predjudice the rest of the country seems to have against Aucklanders and diddn't feel like dealing wiht it.
Know what you mean.When we lived in the South Island and on the West Coast, when we were asked where we were from - it was always - Motukarara, or Tai Tapu, or somewhere. Mention Auckland and it was almost an incentive for a riot!
I think a lot of the attitude you get back at you, is the attitude you project.Whilst, you can never garantee exactly how someone will react, if you project a freindly, helpful attitude, its amazing how oftenyou get it returned, from any ethnic group. Ive had no trouble, but, saying that, it does pay to be aware of when a situation could get out of control - not be totally naive.
I have a cousin in the Whangarei police and, the things she sees at night..five yr old kids wandering the streets at 3 in the morning......parents have got a LOT to answer for....

[NotaGoth]

I have a cousin in the Whangarei police and, the things she sees at night..five yr old kids wandering the streets at 3 in the morning......parents have got a LOT to answer for....

8 year old girls in mini skirts and boobs tubes hanging out with much much older guys. Happens in Whangarei, and Kerikeri is now just as bad.

[NotaGoth]

Big thumbs up for helping out Kittie, its evident no other selfish bastard would have.

I found a little girl in the warehouse this morning, coincidentally, she got separated from her mum, and noone would help the poor child, she was only 4 ish, so I scooped her up, and settled her down, and we went looking for, and eventually found Mum, who was frantic her baby had been abducted (sad but true)

People just dont care anymore, they are either busy shopping, or driving somewhere, and wont deviate from their chosen path to alleviate someone elses grief. I'm a firm believer in the saying "charity begins at home", which I dont always intrpret in the literal sense, but refer to home as "NZ".


Little kids hate me, and I hate them. Harsh but true. But if I found one like that I'd still have the heart to help them find their mummy. Who knows you could ignore them and next thing you know they actually do end up being abducted.

It is true though that not many people will not go out of their way to help to help someone, specially if it is going to interfer with their day.

[Colapop]

Big thumbs up for helping out Kittie, its evident no other selfish bastard would have.

I found a little girl in the warehouse this morning, coincidentally, she got separated from her mum, and noone would help the poor child, she was only 4 ish, so I scooped her up, and settled her down, and we went looking for, and eventually found Mum, who was frantic her baby had been abducted (sad but true)

People just dont care anymore, they are either busy shopping, or driving somewhere, and wont deviate from their chosen path to alleviate someone elses grief. I'm a firm believer in the saying "charity begins at home", which I dont always intrpret in the literal sense, but refer to home as "NZ".
Been there done that. I found a distraught kid wandering around Warehouse and thought twice but did take her hand and took her up to the help counter. I made sure I said in quite a loud voice (for those who were standing around watching) "Are you lost? Would you like to go to the front desk?" I even had a couple of people follow (at a safe distance). But none actually wanted to help the kid.
I know if I was lost/hurt/or other that someone would help me. I always try to help even if its not much. I applaud John Campbell for his actions a few weeks ago.

[Highlander]

I think it is a sad reflection on the society we live in where people won't help someone clearly in need.

What goes around comes around.

Big ups for those who do help.

[NotaGoth]

Been there done that. I found a distraught kid wandering around Warehouse and thought twice but did take her hand and took her up to the help counter.


Its ashame that there are people out there who do things and then when people who genuinely want to help, try and help, they then need to be "cautious" so that they don't get themselves in any trouble when all they want to do is help. Or in some cases they don't help at all, in cause someone then points the finger.