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kro
11th December 2005, 18:25
No, I'm not a gay bashing homophobe, I'm a smoker, and have decided that after 3 years of smoking, I would like to kick the habit.

I have only ever been a habitual smoker, and have only ever smoked between 2 and 6 ciggys a day, but thats more than I should I guess.

Has anyone else quit?, and do you have any advice for me?. I am quitting 23rd december, at 8pm (i know that sounds wierd, but its the way my brain works)

Patches any good?, gum any good?, tristank any good? (I doubt it ) :P

Thanks troops

John
11th December 2005, 18:29
last time this happened it got ugly quick - do whatever you feel the best way to stop is.

Tristan is good for all that ales ye, been using him for years.

NotaGoth
11th December 2005, 18:36
No, I'm not a gay bashing homophobe, I'm a smoker, and have decided that after 3 years of smoking, I would like to kick the habit.

I have only ever been a habitual smoker, and have only ever smoked between 2 and 6 ciggys a day, but thats more than I should I guess.

Has anyone else quit?, and do you have any advice for me?. I am quitting 23rd december, at 8pm (i know that sounds wierd, but its the way my brain works)

Patches any good?, gum any good?, tristank any good? (I doubt it ) :P

Thanks troops

EDIT: *went


Aunty of mine when and got hypnotized. When she went to have a smoke she reckons she got a mad head rush and had to sit down, felt real sick and just couldn't smoke her ciggies. That worked out well for almost a month I think. (no shit) But then she started smoking again.

Dad tried cold turkey, and also peppermint lollies.

I know someone who quit chewing gum instead of smoking a ciggie. Just ordinary gum though.

John Banks
11th December 2005, 18:41
One thing I heard, but hadn't tried myself (I wasn't a huge smoker so I went cold turkey) was to have something to put in your mouth (not tristank, but I won't judge if you do :lol:) whenever you want a smoke. Some of those little candy sticks or something might be good.

Gremlin
11th December 2005, 18:42
I believe some have said that you can better your chances of success by replacing one habit with another...

ie. if you have something to replace the ciggy, then its better, like maybe chewing gum perhaps...

never been in the position to find out tho...

NotaGoth
11th December 2005, 18:46
One thing I heard, but hadn't tried myself (I wasn't a huge smoker so I went cold turkey) was to have something to put in your mouth (not tristank, but I won't judge if you do :lol:) whenever you want a smoke. Some of those little candy sticks or something might be good.


LOL...........

Coyote
11th December 2005, 18:57
My Dad used Nicorette Gum. It worked but now he has a habit of chewing alot of chewing gum

froggyfrenchman
11th December 2005, 19:02
the patches are nasty. i was warned to take them off 1hr before bed to stop them affecting your dreams. I vtook them off earlier and eariler each day till they were off 6hrs before sleep and was still sleeping in 20min blocks and having the most gory dreams/nightmares. Got to the point i was just too shattered from lack of sleep and took up smoking again. When i tried the gum, i atcually doubled my daily intake of nicotine, and they taste like shit.

What?
11th December 2005, 19:02
Stopping is easy - if you want to.
I went from 200/week to nothing cold turkey. No problem, coz I wanted to do it. The first 2 weeks were easy, the next 3 months were a test, but worth it. Should be even easier now that smoking is banned in pubs and workplaces - it wasn't when I kicked.

Grizz
11th December 2005, 19:20
How hard it is depends on the individual. I smoked for 19 years, in the beginning I thought no worries can give up when I want, then I thought, why should I, I enjoy this, then recently started seeing all sorts of signs, like on the back of buses a wee while ago, 'heart attack' victim, 34 years etc, clippits on the webiste about cancer this and cancer that, also my kids watched those smoking ads on TV and I watched them cringe then look at me and say Daddy smoking is bad for you isn't it, why do you do it.

I tried hypontherapy, that didn't work, then I tried the patches and they worked, still was bloody hard though, but the patches took the edge off. Now I don't know why I ever did it. Sometimes I think about having a smoke, but thats all, no cravings or anything. It has been 12 mths since my last ciggaretter, and I while feel better now, I got pretty crook to start with, they say that is the body releasing all the toxins. They also say that for every 5 years of smoking it takes 1 year to come right, how true that is I don't know, but I now can taste food better, I can smell better. I also put on a bit of weight, but it has stabliased at 7 kilos.

Virago
11th December 2005, 19:22
I was a 20-a-day smoker for over 10 years, gave up about 18 years ago.

I had made several half-hearted attempts to quit smoking, but did not succeed. Then when my wife got pregnant, I decided that it was now or never.

I went cold turkey, there wasn't much available back then to help the process.

On the third day I hit the wall. I talked to a work colleague who had give up smoking a couple of years previously, and asked him when thing started getting easier. I still remember to this day his response.

He said that no-one ever "tries" to give up and succeeds. He said that once you've made that that commitment to yourself that you're never going to smoke again, it gets much much easier.

I went away and had a quiet few minutes to myself, and made that commitment that I would not smoke again.

The psychological difference was immediate. The cravings eased, and I was able to focus on a life without smoking. I have never smoked since.

The point is, don't look to outside influences and assistance to get you through it. The real commitment to quit is inside you.

As Yoda said in the early Star Wars: "Do, or do not - there is no try".

Your timing seems a little odd - why quit a couple of days before Christmas? Are you setting yourself up to fail? If you're serious, stop NOW.

And please don't make me laugh by tell us that you're going to keep a pack of smokes handy, "just to prove you don't need them". A friend of mine told me that when she was "trying to quit". I offered to make a bet with her for a hundred dollars that she wouldn't quit. Strangely, she wouldn't accept my offer (and yes she's still smoking).

Anyway, good luck with quitting. It's not easy but well worth it.:2thumbsup

scumdog
11th December 2005, 19:26
Use the 'Scotsman' technique - just think of it this way: a packet of Pall Mall 20's is equal to 6 litres of gas!!! And if you are a 'pack a day' guy just think how much fuel your bikes tank is missing each week - did it for me!!!l

WINJA
11th December 2005, 19:31
I WAS SMOKING 2 PACKS OF 25 WINFIELD GREEN A DAY , I DECIDED TO QUIT SO I GOT ME A BIKE ON FINANCE FOR EXACTLY AS MUCH AS I WAS SPENDING ON SMOKE , I FINANCED THE BIKE ON A WEEKLY BASIS , I ALREADY HAD A BIKE , SO WHEN I PAYED OFF THE BIKE I HAD 2 BIKES , THEN I FINANCED A CAR FO THE SAME AMOUNT GOD KNOWS WHY .
IN SHORT I FOUND THAT WHEN YOU DEPRIVE YOURSELF OF SMOKES YOU ACTUALLY FEEL LIKE YOUR LOSING SOMETHING WHICH GIVES YOU THE WRONG MIDSET B4 YOU QUIT , SO TRY TO START YOUR FIRST DAY QUITING WITH A REWARD , IT MAY WORK WHO KNOWS , EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT , AND NICOTENE IS QUITE ADDICTIVE

outlawtorn
11th December 2005, 19:38
I smoked for 12 years and stopped after one seesion of hypnotherapy and I've never looked back, mark my words, if you really want to quit then go to a hypnotist and do it this way, it's the least stressful way.

PM me if you want more info and good luck.

sels1
11th December 2005, 19:38
Has anyone else quit?, and do you have any advice for me?.


Quiting is easy.....I've done it lots of times...:lol:

I stopped smoking at home after my 1st child was born. (like over 22 years ago) Then changed jobs to a place where no one smoked - so only smoked at the pub. And as I hardly ever go to the pub I basically gave up by default. Stop buying them is the first step. I still might have the occasional one at parties (or more lately KB get - togethers) but have to be plyed with alcohol first.

Cookie
11th December 2005, 19:39
I smoked heavily for over 15 years and after trying every method imaginable, simply stopped in 1999.

Everyone who has been successful has their own story. I read the book “The easy way to stop smoking” by Allen Carr (twice) and then I stopped.

Allen Carr just repeats some simple ideas until you understand that stopping smoking is nothing to be afraid of. Other people I know think he’s crap, but interestingly, they still smoke, where as I don’t. His book is available for free at most libraries.

heavenly.talker
11th December 2005, 19:41
Patches any good?, gum any good?, tristank any good? (I doubt it ) :P

Thanks troops


Hubby and I used the book "Allen Carrs easy way to give up smoking" over 3 years ago. Totally recommend it! Lots of our friends have become non-smokers through this too:-)

Good luck

Hitcher
11th December 2005, 19:42
I don't smoke. But I get hot...

Drum
11th December 2005, 19:50
Chalk up another success to "Allen Carrs easy way to give up smoking" . After 16 years of smoking, I read the book in one week and have never even been tempted to light up in the past 2 1/2 years.

Stopping smoking is easy. You have been brainwashed into thinking it is difficult.:bash:

crashe
11th December 2005, 19:54
I started smoking at the age of 12....
yep so that explains why I am so damn short :rofl: :rofl:

I gave it away cold turkey 10 years later.

It will take a while but your taste and your smell senses will come back.
(for me I never had them in the first place... so I dont know what Im missing lol)

Each person will find their own way of giving it up.....
But you have to do it for YOU.

I will support anyone who is giving them up as some need big time support.
I don't think you need to replace the smokes with lollies etc.. as you will gain weight. Start to do other things with your hands... when you start to feel that you need a smoke.. like tinkering with your bike, or having a cuppa.

Work out how much it costs you a week, then times it by 52 = $spent a year.
All that money could be spent on something that is needed for the bike or your family.

To anyone who is thinking of giving up smoking.... all the best.... cos it can be done.

Sensei
11th December 2005, 19:58
Just stopped myself 20y's back . Easy if you want to !!

Skyryder
11th December 2005, 20:05
Been off thirty odd years now so have some experiance of what you are about to embark on. There has been some sound advice so will not repeat what others have said but instead will concentrate on what has been missed.


Some food or more correctly drinks enhance the urge to smoke. These are tea coffee and associated beverages along with alcohol. I stopped drinking these for about three months. Drank a lot of milk and water. Both of these will reduce the urge to smoke. Water will help cleanse the body of nicotene.

Fasting is another way of cleansing the body of nicotene quickly but if you are going to start on the 23 Dec, not really practical.

However the key to succeess is controlling stress. As the body goes into withdrawal symptoms you will need to know how to manage that. Something I do not advertise as it is so simple few people take it seriously. You can begin this prior to the 23 dec. PM for details.

Skyryder

kro
11th December 2005, 20:43
Wow, thanks troops, I will get this book you have mentioned, even though I am a low volume smoker, I have an addictive personality, so i think it will be just as hard for me as if I had smoked a pack a day.

I will have a good read of all of these replies tomorrow, as I am off to bed to dream about my GSXR that comes in on Mainfreight tomorrow morning, its a doer-upper, and its going to be my diversion for a while, as will no doubt gum will be too, I will use the non teeth rotting version of course.

I will have to start up that do up thread for the Gix too, that will help keep me occupied.

Thanks again

TwoSeven
11th December 2005, 21:28
No, I'm not a gay bashing homophobe, I'm a smoker, and have decided that after 3 years of smoking, I would like to kick the habit.

I have only ever been a habitual smoker, and have only ever smoked between 2 and 6 ciggys a day, but thats more than I should I guess.

Has anyone else quit?, and do you have any advice for me?. I am quitting 23rd december, at 8pm (i know that sounds wierd, but its the way my brain works)

Patches any good?, gum any good?, tristank any good? (I doubt it ) :P

Thanks troops

I quit last year.

Bogarted my last pack as long as I could, then didnt buy any more. Brought munchies instead - like gum, peanuts etc.

Most important thing, is to change all the habbits that went with it and to make sure you are real busy for the first couple of days.

I tried the patches - thats when I found out that its important to break all the associated habbits - its them that trigger the craving for the smoke.

N4CR
11th December 2005, 21:57
Why the hell is everyone mentioning my name.. I don't smoke O_o

When i was little i made like heaps of post-it notes stuck everywhere telling my dad to stop smoking, it worked well. He has stopped smoking 15 times in his life and has stopped for good now.

TLDV8
11th December 2005, 22:18
I gave up around 2 1/2 years ago,cold turkey,smoked a pack a day since i was 19 but still remember Greys at 30c a packet..so that was over 20 years worth... the first week totally sucked,it was easier by the 3 month mark... easier but still a temptation in the background at the year mark,now there is absolutely no going back.......I personally think the setting a date in the future to stop is the addiction talking and recommend the now or never approach...The real bitch part i found was there comes a time after you have stopped where you realise smoking was just a way to get nicotine in the system,nothing more,nothing less and there was nothing in it for the smoker,they were simply being used,that was enough in itself to stop.I used that to fight against any second thought's...I would say Good Luck,but there is no luck involved,if you truely want to stop you will. :niceone:
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Although i went back on to rollies for the last year of smoking,i based the savings on the previous Winfield Red's at $11.50 a pack,that makes the TL1000 pretty much a freebie.

Dadpole
11th December 2005, 22:28
I have promised my son that I would quit before my birthday (23rd December) so I have been reading all this advice with great interest. Some of the plans suggested have worked for people I know, so here goes.
All the best Kronos.

John
12th December 2005, 00:45
Why the hell is everyone mentioning my name.. I don't smoke O_o

BEcAUSE YOU SMOKE THE PANCAKE BIATCH. :banana:

the cock the erb the sausage the sally the stick the meatloaf the salami, get the picture?

kro
12th December 2005, 05:40
...I personally think the setting a date in the future to stop is the addiction talking and recommend the now or never approach...

I did try a cold turkey spur of the moment quit, and I had no backup, so it failed miserably. This will be my second attempt, and because I was so badly unprepared last time, I have set a date this time, mostly because my mind works that way with dates/times/deadlines, and managing deadlines has always been a specialty of mine, so I set that date, so I could set myself up with diversions/other habits, to assist in the process.

I am gald I did that because there is some top notch advice in this small thread, and I will be putting alot of it into play when I stop.

Sorry TLDV8, I wasn't trying to make your idea sound like a bad one, because for a lot of folks here, it seems to have worked well, but being a borderline psychopath like I am :bleh: , its better that I plan this out, so my mind doesn't reject the whole idea. :slap:

Thanks for the advice

SixPackBack
12th December 2005, 05:46
I smoke after Sex.....cold shower helps!

miSTa
12th December 2005, 06:02
I started when I was 13, then for the next 23 years I was a pack a day. One morning I got up and decided today was going to be the day I give up. Went to the chemist to get some patches, five years later haven't still smoke free.

For me the patches helped a lot with no ill effects, I would have no hestation in recommending them if you wish to stop smoking - therein lies the key.

Colapop
12th December 2005, 06:39
The biggest thing is - If you WANT to quit YOU will.
It does not matter what method you use, nothing will work unless you actually WANT to quit.

Every time you feel like a smoke you have to almost physically stop yourself.

Some tips to help:
1/ Have something to replace your smoke break. Do you smoke for a break? Or break for a smoke?
2/ Cut down on coffee/tea. A coffee or tea and a smoke? Some things go hand in hand and breaking the habit means breaking habitual connections.
3/ Chill out. Relaxation techniques can ease the stress that may cause you to smoke.
4/ Be around people who don't smoke. Peer pressure (even if you don't realise it) affects how much you smoke, like going for a beer.
Good luck

pyrocam
12th December 2005, 13:49
why would you want to give up such an awesome habit?

Virago
30th January 2006, 18:50
(Thread revival)........

Hey Kronos - did you manage to kick the habit?:yes:

Meathorse
30th January 2006, 19:35
Chalk up another success to "Allen Carrs easy way to give up smoking" . After 16 years of smoking, I read the book in one week and have never even been tempted to light up in the past 2 1/2 years.

Stopping smoking is easy. You have been brainwashed into thinking it is difficult.:bash:

Yup, another vote for that book here - I'm a non-smoker, but have had 3 friends all use this book and succeed! They swear by it!

Jackrat
30th January 2006, 19:40
I gave up about three months ago,after 30 odd years of smoking around 3 packets of tobacco a week.The first 2 months were actualy pretty easy but the last month has been a lot harder.I would of thought it would get easier not harder but I'll win in the end anyway.I'm Buying another bike at the end of this year and it's going to cost me around $15000,I'm paying cash and the $90pw I was spending on weed is going to pay for a lot of it.
I tried patches and gum but in the end I got pissed off with all of that stuff "I mean how do you kick a habit by using the same shit your addicted to in just another form"
So in the end after a month of fucking about I just stopped.
Good luck to anybody doing the same.:niceone:

Colapop
30th January 2006, 19:45
Keep it up. When it gets hard focus on your new bike. Or come on here and yarn instead (it'll get your post count up too, wahoo. Coz I know you're all about post count and bling --- hahahaha)

kro
31st January 2006, 05:32
Sorry, I should have updated this thread, yes, I have been successful thus far, I stopped on the designated day, and have had but one little lapse since, which resulted in me having a big puke while in the forest on my DR250, needless to say, I won't be lapsing again.

My sense of taste and smell is returning, and I can smell things that I haven't smelled since 4 years ago when I started the ciggy's, and it's bringing back a rush of memories/thoughts that I would have otherwise have forgotten.

Not the easiest thing to do, but the benefits are fantastic I reckon. The 18 fresh mussells I ate yesterday tasted heavenly !!!!!.

SARGE
31st January 2006, 06:51
as long as you dont become one of these rabid ex-smokers who think just because they dont smoke anymore tht everyone else in the world has to also. i am a smoker.. i enjoy smoking. i smoke about 20 a day and have for 30 years. yea, ive tried to quit.. its not pretty.. i dont handle the withdrawls well and im too damn big to try to calm down (go over to the zoo and tell that 200 kg silverback gorilla he cant have any more bananas)

keep smoking i say..the world hates a quitter

pyrocam
31st January 2006, 09:40
as long as you dont become one of these rabid ex-smokers who think just because they dont smoke anymore tht everyone else in the world has to also. i am a smoker.. i enjoy smoking. i smoke about 20 a day and have for 30 years. yea, ive tried to quit.. its not pretty.. i dont handle the withdrawls well and im too damn big to try to calm down (go over to the zoo and tell that 200 kg silverback gorilla he cant have any more bananas)

keep smoking i say..the world hates a quitter

I tried to go cold turkey but then I realised that my drinking problem was going to cause issues so I just tried to not smoke while working,

so far its been a week. (course weekends dont count)

its a start

Mad Cow
31st January 2006, 16:38
I gave up for 5 years and then as soon as I started socialising with smokers again I started having the odd one and it snowballed! Straight back to a pack a day!
That was 3 years ago and I have now been off again for 6 months and feel great thanks to the Allen Carr book! Have learnt this time that there is no such thing, for me anyway, as one ciggie!

kro
31st January 2006, 20:35
as long as you dont become one of these rabid ex-smokers who think just because they dont smoke anymore tht everyone else in the world has to also. i am a smoker.. i enjoy smoking. i smoke about 20 a day and have for 30 years. yea, ive tried to quit.. its not pretty.. i dont handle the withdrawls well and im too damn big to try to calm down (go over to the zoo and tell that 200 kg silverback gorilla he cant have any more bananas)

keep smoking i say..the world hates a quitter


I was told you had left us, and I was none too happy to hear it, but you have returned, and trust me, I will not turn into a born again non smoker, I have been on both sides of the fence, and have empathy for both.

Don't leave us Sarge, just take small breaks from time to time to keep ya sanity . Your input here is welcome, that piece you wrote on 911 was the sort of thing I come here for dude.

SARGE
31st January 2006, 20:56
I was told you had left us, and I was none too happy to hear it, but you have returned, and trust me, I will not turn into a born again non smoker, I have been on both sides of the fence, and have empathy for both.

Don't leave us Sarge, just take small breaks from time to time to keep ya sanity . Your input here is welcome, that piece you wrote on 911 was the sort of thing I come here for dude.



thanks man.. i did take a short break to put my shit into perspective. whanau was getting neglected and i was turning a pasty white due to raster-burn. end of the day, i'd rather be out riding than talking about riding. that and it was getting a bit 3rd form in here with just too much shit-talking and not enough balls to back it up.. i found myself dragged into little bitchfights that were really putting me in a bad mood. me in a bad mood cannot be a good thing... i definatly wont be on as much as i have been though.


( you should check out the palastinian thread (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=23786) for more from the warped mind of SARGE)

kro
31st January 2006, 22:02
Understand your position Sarge, thanks for the new thread too.

iwilde
1st February 2006, 04:29
I quit 3.5yrs ago, I used zyban but after 2 weeks I reacted to it and was rushed to A&E because I stoped breathing. I thought to myself that after all this shit I cant turn back now and cold turkeyed it. I reward myself every year, trip to Bali, SS Holden and this year the ZX9R. Next year I'll reward myself with a brand new Busa.

kro
1st February 2006, 05:37
Yer, I think I will use a reward system too, it marks the effort with something real, and tangible.

That whole Zyban thing is a bit of a scare. My lapse was 4 days into the whole thing, and even after such a short time, my body was still craving, but the minute I introduced the nicotine, it rejected the idea big time, and I am one of these people who pukes once every 5 or so years at best, and absolutley hate the experience, so this has been a bloody good deterrent.