Bus Lane RIding on Motorway......Opps

[DJ DOOWOP]

The Traffic over the Harbour Bridge was congested this morn so I took the far left lane (Bus Lane), while riding down hill a KB cop was lurking behind the curve and pulled me over, gave me a verbal warning and off I went!....
Will be more dame cautious next time round, another KB was right behind me and got away....
Anyone had similar exp?
What can you get done for if the cop was not lenient?

chur chur:killingme

[bugjuice]

how do you know it was a KB cop?

Using the bus lanes on motorways is forbidden. Lane splitting is ok tho.. :spudwhat:
don't know what the penalty is, can't be arsed looking it up. Just don't use the motorway bus lane ('kin stupid, ay?)

[DJ DOOWOP]

Oh yeah the cop was on the Bike so I assumed a KB Cop! mmm...but he looked busy so let me off, lane spllits eh....will be doing that , thanks.

[Finn]

while riding down hill a KB cop was lurking behind the curve and pulled me over

chur chur:killingme

So if you were riding "down hill" I presume you mean on the bridge and the cop was around the corner. If so do I take it that someone was watching you on a camera and radioed the cop?

Good job for not getting pinged! I heard a rumour there was one decent cop out there.

[sAsLEX]

Using the bus lanes on motorways is forbidden. Lane splitting is ok tho.. :spudwhat:

Actually that lane would be covered under the new law that allows us to use them. The lanes which we are not allowed to use are the emergency stopping lanes which transit has an agrement with the bus companies and allows them to use those as bus lanes.

Would be good if byky cop or dymantus or who ever could confirm this as the only directive I have seen about the motorway bus lanes only talked about the emergency stopping lanes, not lane 1 on the Harbour Bridge which during peak hours is a "bus lane" not a emergency stopping lane which we are not allowed to ride in.

[dawnrazor]

Using the bus lanes on motorways is forbidden.

So motorbikes can use the buslanes in the city, but can't use the bus lanes on the motorway? Is this right, if so its chuffing daft

[bugjuice]

DR - yeah, that's right (so far).

Alex, that's contradicting mate. 6 months ago was a whole big hoo-harr on the motorway buslanes and us using them, and over the shore (don't know about other districts, we couldn't use them, period. So what's changed then?

[Lou Girardin]

The fine for using the m/way bus lane is $500.00 and a bike cop regularly sits around the bend past the St Marys Bay off-ramp.
You were a lucky, lucky bastid.

[vifferman]

The fine for using the m/way bus lane is $500.00 and a bike cop regularly sits around the bend past the St Marys Bay off-ramp.

Mebbe he should've sat somehwere else, so he could've pulled up the lanesplitter that trundled past me on the bridge. The traffic was moving OK at the time (~60 km/h), but he was splitting anyway. The thing that got me though was his 'non-splitproof' riding gear: thin slacks, shoes and socks, lightweight jacket, etc. I've made contact with a vehicle or two while filtering or splitting, and was very glad for my armoured boots, and heavyweight trousers with Knox CE knee armour (added after several years riding in them, and crash-tested more than a few times...) Maybe I should add kneesliders? The armour is good for getting a "knee out" (as opposed to down), but a plastic or ceramic slider would be even better for sliding along the flanks of cars....

[sAsLEX]

DR - yeah, that's right (so far).

Alex, that's contradicting mate. 6 months ago was a whole big hoo-harr on the motorway buslanes and us using them, and over the shore (don't know about other districts, we couldn't use them, period. So what's changed then?

the big hoo-harr was over all the bikes starting to use the EMERGENCY STOPPING lane bus lanes as found on the shore heading in to the city before the bridge. The high ups came out and expressly forbid us using them as it was dangerous etc to be using the lanes with the big scary buses, and at that time they stated that they were not BUS lanes as such but buses could use them, well regular scheduled bus sevices.

Nothing has changed since then, the BUS lane on the bridge is just different as it is a standard road lane that at certain times changes its classification, kinda like some of the transit lanes around the place that change for peak times.

[bugjuice]

oh you on about the few meters of road just after shelly beach off ramp?
I've never gone over the bridge that early in the morning, so don't know.. I thought it was the bus lanes in the emergency lanes prior to the bridge..

[sAsLEX]

oh you on about the few meters of road just after shelly beach off ramp?
I've never gone over the bridge that early in the morning, so don't know.. I thought it was the bus lanes in the emergency lanes prior to the bridge..

right we back on the same page, yip thats the one, that bus lane actually extends across the whole bridge as a "Shelly beach and bus lane" just that if you dont turn off to shelly B then you obviously in the wrong lane and they could ping you, IF you were in a cage.

[bugjuice]

ahhhh gotcha..
well there's a grey spot in the law then, ay?
dumbarses..

[sAsLEX]

ahhhh gotcha..
well there's a grey spot in the law then, ay?
dumbarses..

a spot you say, do you call Taupo a puddle, Everest a hill and the Grand Canyon a Ditch?

Most laws/reg coming out at the mo are varying shades or grey, nothin defined and distinct. Fuck they have replaced laws/regs that were precise to a letter with bloody airy fairy bullshit!

eg the 1976 traffic regs or something stated the allowable noise limits for cars bikes trucks etc at a specified level, they also included a recognised standard (brittish or ISO cant remember) on how to test these levels.
Now they replaced it with some wish washy crap so that one day you can get a warrent and the next day be green stickered by some uppity little cop who calls you "son " and other condescending bullshit.


*BREATHE*

*rant off*

[bugjuice]

a spot you say, do you call Taupo a puddle, Everest a hill and the Grand Canyon a Ditch?
i do actually..
feel better now?

[DJ DOOWOP]

Grey Area indeed, but I guess as long as you merge back into the right lane they can't bust you, this morn however, I just couldn't be arsed and wanted to try my luck....Actually I reackon they should legalize bikers on buslanes on the motorway it's safer

[Test Pilot]

i got pulled over for the same thing back in july by a cop in a cage, i told him we were allowed to use it,(even though i knew we wernt) and he wasnt sure so he let me off. I ride down that lane everyday too work and my trick is pull into the right lane at the offramp where the sign that indicates a bus lane. then wait till you can see round the corner then if its clear blitz it down the left lane, it only takes a minute or two longer and it saves $500. Plus you can make up the time by splittin at the appropriate place. Another thing i do to avoid alot of splitting is to move on to clear on ramps on the motorway and ride down those. there always clear cause the idiots who drive dont seam to b able to follow the simple rule of drive to the end and merge like a zip. Its amazing how much time this saves and how much safer it is.

[DJ DOOWOP]

Cheers bro I'll use that "I thought we were allow to use bus lanes"..haaa....and if it's a rookie cop he'd let me off eh!..There's all kinds of tricks you can pull on the road I suppose but the end of the day we all want to return home alive eh...Lane Splitting from Trsitram to Takapuna on the motorway always give me chills though and looking at the congested car lanes I gotta feel sorry for the dudes been waiting for 30 mins to get on to the on ramp.... I used to be one, that Northcote road is nasty!

[Swoop]

Mebbe he should've sat somehwere else, so he could've pulled up the lanesplitter that trundled past me on the bridge. The traffic was moving OK at the time (~60 km/h), but he was splitting anyway. The thing that got me though was his 'non-splitproof' riding gear: thin slacks, shoes and socks, lightweight jacket, etc. I've made contact with a vehicle or two while filtering or splitting, and was very glad for my armoured boots, and heavyweight trousers with Knox CE knee armour (added after several years riding in them, and crash-tested more than a few times...) Maybe I should add kneesliders? The armour is good for getting a "knee out" (as opposed to down), but a plastic or ceramic slider would be even better for sliding along the flanks of cars....

Careful making comments like that, the crabs that pop up and object to people objecting will be after you...:nono:
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=21644 supplies a good example!:chase: :eyepoke: :lol: :rofl: