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cheese
14th December 2005, 21:25
Ok looks like all teh bearings have collapsed, it's got a bit of side to side movement and not looking too flash at all.... :( Wondered why I kept sliding out sideways all the time.....

So I'm going to get a new set of bushes, etc, can I push the bearings out witha hammer and gental hammering? Is this normally a major job? I've got to go get some bigger sockets tomorrow.....

man more money...:( wifey is going to hate me.

scooterboynz
14th December 2005, 21:35
i had this happen on a 1998 tl100r after some guy ran up the back of me at an intersection a few years ago , gave me a false name and phone muber etc,,,,, oh well live and learn

cheese
14th December 2005, 21:39
you what? huh? aye?

scooterboynz
14th December 2005, 21:50
some guy ran up the back of my bike and stuffed my rear swing arm bearings , i was riding like a drunk old age pensioner because the back wheel was steering to the right every time i gassed it

XTC
14th December 2005, 21:50
Probably best to get the bearings pressed out using a hydraulic press then press the new ones in. swingarm and linkage bearings don't really appreciate being belted with a hammer. And some can be stuck in there very tight. Get all the bearings and seals remove the swingarm and linkage and take it all to your local shop. Be prepared to part with 250-300 dollars in bearings and seals alone to do the whole job. Once the new ones are installed regularly disassemble swing arm and linkage and regrease especially in winter.

XTC
14th December 2005, 21:54
some guy ran up the back of my bike and stuffed my rear swing arm bearings , i was riding like a drunk old age pensioner because the back wheel was steering to the right every time i gassed it
Rode a ducati darmah like that once. The pinch bolt on the chain adjuster (at front of swingarm on those) had broken and allowed the swingarm to move side to side when you accelerated.

cheese
14th December 2005, 21:56
Looks like I'm not going riding this weekend then.... :(

I just had all the linkages rebult and that cost me about $120 for teh bits adn $60 to fit.

XTC
14th December 2005, 21:56
Dirtbike.co.nz have swingarm bearing kits for $165.00 and linkage kits for $175.00.

XTC
14th December 2005, 21:58
Looks like I'm not going riding this weekend then.... :(

I just had all the linkages rebult and that cost me about $120 for teh bits adn $60 to fit.
Christ I hope you got that RM real cheap......

Wellyman
14th December 2005, 22:40
Bummer dude! that sucks, we will have to ride another time

cheese
15th December 2005, 07:59
oh mate I tell you this bike has been an expensive bike. I'll never sell it cause it would be a waste of money..... Cost me 2600, spent about 600 on it so far and it eats plugs every few hours....

grumble grumble grumble....

Posh Tourer :P
15th December 2005, 08:05
check the coil outputs, and also the HT leads. That is if you have already looked at the fuel mixture....

vifferman
15th December 2005, 08:06
Rode a ducati darmah like that once. The pinch bolt on the chain adjuster (at front of swingarm on those) had broken and allowed the swingarm to move side to side when you accelerated.
What a stupid design!
I had a Fiat 132 that was like that (for several years, until a WOF inspection finally picked it up). The bush in the right radius arm was flogged out, so it had rear-wheel steering: accelerate for right-hand corners, decelerate for left-hand ones.
By the way, Mr. Cheese: you should be able to hammer the bearings out, if you're careful, but you'd be best to use something that presses on the bearing all the way round, like a piece of pipe, because if your're using a drift and tapping your way around the bearing, if you tap it a bit hard and get it on a slight angle, it will jam and dig into the swingarm bearing wall shaft thingo (dunno what you call it), possibly damaging it.

F5 Dave
15th December 2005, 08:30
Depends on whether the swingarm is full length at the bearings, some are 2 arms. (Real old RMs aren’t). If so you can use a decent bench-vice. With a socket pushing against the bearing & a BIG socket or spacer on the other side the bearing will get pushed into the big one when you do the vice up. Easy. Put them in the same way.
As always heat is your friend. Propane camp stove/bottle, heatgun or in a snip a fan heater on the swingarm will help.

When re inserting you can put the bearings in the freezer for an hour.

Grease the bearings, use lithium grease as it is more waterproof so suits dirtbikes.

All Balls & Pivot works sell bearing kits.

cheese
15th December 2005, 10:17
AH bugger it it can wait till next year now and I'll take it down to my good mates at spectron. :crybaby:

Should I do my wheel bearings at the same time? :bash:

F5 Dave
15th December 2005, 10:24
Only if they need it.

Spin the wheel on the axle with no chain or brake, maybe axle in vice. & give them a rock. If ok then maybe pop the seal out & repack with lithium grease. The bearings will last pretty well if they are greased & the water is kept away. Those axle seals get poked & that lets the water in then bearings die quickly.

WRT
15th December 2005, 10:31
Watch for the sand getting in too. If you ride at woodhill a lot, sooner or later the sand is going to get EVERYWHERE . . .

cheese
15th December 2005, 14:02
yeah I waterblasted my bike for about 1/2 and hour and then soaped it down and blasted it again and there was STILL sand everywhere!!!

I might leave it all till next year and do it all then.

Colapop
15th December 2005, 14:17
Rear swingarm wiggly....

Get a long bit of string, tie one end to the wiggly bit, the other end to a brick then drop the brick off the balcony. End of wiggly problem - should come straight out!

Hey, shaddup - it work's for my kid's teeth!

cheese
15th December 2005, 15:00
ha ha ha

oh man that was a crack up..

cheese
16th December 2005, 07:55
Oh no, the RH side bearing is rooted.... it collapsed.

Wellyman
18th December 2005, 20:46
yeah I waterblasted my bike for about 1/2 and hour and then soaped it down and blasted it again and there was STILL sand everywhere!!!

I might leave it all till next year and do it all then.

Don't leave it till next year! get it all out now all it will become stuck in there for life.
WM