Drink-drive teen six times over limit

[Postie]

from todays herald,


A 16-year-old was today caught six times over the legal drink-driving limit, prompting police to say he was "a fatal accident waiting to happen".

The Tauranga blocklayer was spotted on inner-city security cameras swerving all over the road.

He recorded a reading of 996 mcg breath/alcohol when pulled over on Takitimu Drive at 3.45am.

Strategic traffic unit Senior Sergeant Ian Campion said he was disgusted by the alcohol reading, particularly in someone so young.

Mr Campion said: "One of the reasons the breath and blood alcohol levels are lower for the under-20s is the fact that they don't have the experience or the skills to drive effectively."

"These issues are just exacerbated when you drive drunk."

After consuming that much, the teen would have been slurring his words, completely unsteady on his feet and unable to string sentences together, he said.

"At that point ... they are just a serious injury or fatal crash waiting to happen."

Mr Campion said while the 996mcg reading was at the top end of the scale, it was not unheard of.

"I will be honest with you, throughout the operation we have been running we have had young offenders coming through with breath alcohol levels in the 700, 800 and 900s."

Mr Campion laid some of the responsibility with parents - questioning where teenagers received alcohol from.

Since a concerted Western Bay of Plenty drink-driving campaign kicked off in October, teenage males have emerged as the main offenders.

Of the 202 people charged throughout the campaign so far, 49.4 per cent were aged between 15 and 24.

The statistics also reveal one in every 79 cars on the region's roads is being driven drunk.

Western Bay of Plenty road safety co-ordinator Lynette Hines was dismayed that young people on the roads were ignoring the message not to drink and drive.

"I'm just so disappointed and so frustrated. How can we get to these people?

"It goes in cycles and we're definitely on the downward cycle," she said, noting that she had seen an increase in the number of young teenagers being found drunk in control of a vehicle during the past two months.

She was concerned the teenager would have been a grave danger to the public. "He would have no control at all, poor judgement, no idea of speed," Ms Hines said.

The 16-year-old will be dealt with by Youth Aid and faces maximum penalties of six weeks imprisonment, a $2250 fine and three months disqualification from driving.

[bugjuice]

chop his arms and legs off. He won't be able to do it again.

3 month ban too? And what did Speedy get? so not right. 6 weeks is toss all, and 2g's? his folks will probably pay it off.. so what's he learnt? And those aren't even convicted. He just faces those 'maximum' penalties..

pfft...

[ManDownUnder]

put a couple of bags of suger in his fuel tank and send him on his way...

I agree - give the kid a complete and utter bollocking. Car seized and sold, fined, and licence taken off him - minimum 5 year stand down when he has to start his learners over again. Make him work in the morgue for a week over Christmas... make him work on the bodies of the youngins'

Find some way to make him look like a knob in front of his peers and relatives too.

I'd LOVE to be the judge he came up in front of...

[James Deuce]

You know, we're not allowed to give people shit for riding too fast, too slow, too aggressively (you are allowed to give people shit for being a pussy), about the gear they choose to wear when riding, the type of tyre they use (you are allowed to give people shit if a tyre lasts more than 1500kms), for not attending tracks days, for lane-splitting in a dangerous manner, and for owning a bike that is grossly over-capable for NZ conditions.

So it stands to reason that we shouldn't be giving people shit for choosing to drive under the influence of their drug of choice.

Doesn't it?

[sAsLEX]

So it stands to reason that we shouldn't be giving people shit for choosing to drive under the influence of their drug of choice.

Doesn't it?


No.........

[Swoop]

Well done that kid!!!

This is precisely what aunty helen wants. Young kids going out and buying grog (1st tax dollar) and also grog for their even younger mates (more tax $$'s), then they get done for various offences ($$'s of revenue gathered from this as well). The possible impounding and forfeiture of the motorvehicle in question brings in bonus $$'s as well.:wait:
and some people wonder why the government lowered the drinking age...:laugh: :slap: :bash:

[Yokai]

Of the 202 people charged throughout the campaign so far, 49.4 per cent were aged between 15 and 24.

The statistics also reveal one in every 79 cars on the region's roads is being driven drunk.

AARRGGHH!!!!!

Of the 202 people charged throughout the campaign so far, I'll bet 100% are in charge of some vehicle. I'd ban all vehicles in that case!

OR

Of the 202 people charged throughout the campaign so far, I'll bet 100% are over 14 - therefore give all the under 14s a licence and take it away from all us old farts!

and 1 in 79 cars is being drunk?... Surely that should be 1 in 79 drivers on the regions roads is drunk? Or is it higher (cos what about all the parked cars... )

I hate stupid statistics....

[Grahameeboy]

I agree a 3 month disqualification does not match the offence when you compare it with speeding...raise the driving age and have a zero for under the influence.....you can legally buy a bike, car whatever which lets you break the law, you can drink and drive as long as it is legal......hallo anybody there!!
Now people will still speed but I reckon that a zero alcohol tolerance will make people think....they do it in other Countries....okay I hear some say that some medicines have alcohol but if it is prescribed that sorts that one out and I am sure that they can calibrate the machine to allow for potential medical content which ain't much in medicine anyway.....

[Da Bird]

from todays herald,


The 16-year-old will be dealt with by Youth Aid and faces maximum penalties of six weeks imprisonment, a $2250 fine and three months disqualification from driving.

With that level, he should have been charged as an adult which is 3 months jail, $4500.00 fine max and minimum 6 months disqualification. Although, being dealt with by Youth Aid, he will probably just get disqualified.

[bugjuice]

You know, we're not allowed to give people shit for riding too fast, too slow, too aggressively (you are allowed to give people shit for being a pussy), about the gear they choose to wear when riding, the type of tyre they use (you are allowed to give people shit if a tyre lasts more than 1500kms), for not attending tracks days, for lane-splitting in a dangerous manner, and for owning a bike that is grossly over-capable for NZ conditions.

So it stands to reason that we shouldn't be giving people shit for choosing to drive under the influence of their drug of choice.

Doesn't it?
driving under the influence could take out a number of people. Lane splitting and not wearing gear is still in control of the vehicle, but it'd mostly do damage to yourself and very unlikely anyone else. That's also (often) a sober a straight decision.

Getting behind a wheel when you can barely walk however...

[**R1**]

I think your all missing the point, he was 16, they should find the fucker that gave him the grog and chop his arms and legs off....I was 16 once and fuck did i do some dumb shit way worse than drink driving...not that im saying its in any way ok...I just dont see how its made its way to a bike forum...if its crime you all want to talk about there is much worse out there than this..

[**R1**]

driving under the influence could take out a number of people. Lane splitting and not wearing gear is still in control of the vehicle, but it'd mostly do damage to yourself and very unlikely anyone else. That's also (often) a sober a straight decision.

Getting behind a wheel when you can barely walk however...what if while lane splitting you scare the shit out of the guy drinking and he spills his beer in his lap and the bottle gets stuck under the brake and then he takes out 20 kids on a school bus? is that his fault or yours?

[Grahameeboy]

With that level, he should have been charged as an adult which is 3 months jail, $4500.00 fine max and minimum 6 months disqualification. Although, being dealt with by Youth Aid, he will probably just get disqualified.

Even 6 months is too short.....we are too soft in NZ....in the UK you would probably get 2 years minimum..........3 month's in Jail does not fit the crime and anyway, that is half the licence ban.......this is why speeding = revenue debate has merit when they dish out paltry sentences for drink/driving offences and fines can be paid off monthly as can be afforded and if they get jailed, no job, no can pay...oh well lets sell the car to pay the fine can always get another when I get out on finance......the deterrent is pretty meagre really......no offence to you Bykey Cop as it must be pretty frustrating for you guys.

[bugjuice]

what if while lane splitting you scare the shit out of the guy drinking and he spills his beer in his lap and the bottle gets stuck under the brake and then he takes out 20 kids on a school bus? is that his fault or yours?
that's why they invented cans. They crush where as bottles don't ;)

[ManDownUnder]

So it stands to reason that we shouldn't be giving people shit for choosing to drive under the influence of their drug of choice.

Doesn't it?

no - I reservethe right to comment and take action on anyone or anything that threatens the life of me or mine

[ManDownUnder]

that's why they invented cans. They crush where as bottles don't ;)

his fault - not operating the vehidle under reasonable control.

But let's face it - it's more likely to be a woman involved in something as catastrophic as that.. there will be a study somewhere to back me up... surely...

bottom of the 9th... the white middle class guys are down but not out, predjudice and injustices being thrust upon them at every corner... MDU's up to bat.

The feminist and PC brigade wind up... there's the pitch and MDU SMACKS it out of the park.

The crowd is strangely silent - unsure if they'll get in trouble for supporting, one side, the other or just standing there being a doofus...

[Postie]

I just dont see how its made its way to a bike forum...


I highlighted the story, pressed Ctrl C and then started a new thread and pressed Ctrl V

[Grahameeboy]

I highlighted the story, pressed Ctrl C and then started a new thread and pressed Ctrl V

Is that how you keep Cibby in check!!!

[ManDownUnder]

Is that how you keep Cibby in check!!!

mate he's good.. but that'd be miraculous... no need to go overboard

[Grahameeboy]

mate he's good.. but that'd be miraculous... no need to go overboard

too right.....remote control could be fun though!!!....for each Kiwibiker!!!

[Postie]

Is that how you keep Cibby in check!!!

nah, i just tie her up.....:blip:

[ManDownUnder]

nah, i just tie her up.....:blip:

...works for me...

[Postie]

...works for me...
what? you want me to tie you up too???? bring a toothbrush:blip:

[Grahameeboy]

what? you want me to tie you up too???? bring a toothbrush:blip:

Electric toothbrush!!!!......has to be a Braun, gets to all those difficult bits
Mind u I had heard that Cibby is in even more control when tied up.....!!!!

[bugjuice]

didn't take this thread very long, ay?
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[Postie]

With that level, he should have been charged as an adult which is 3 months jail, $4500.00 fine max and minimum 6 months disqualification. Although, being dealt with by Youth Aid, he will probably just get disqualified.
i'll try to bring it back on track.
cheers for that BC, maybe you should go be a judge, get some real justice.

[inlinefour]

Along with the other penalties, sell his car and give the money to ACC or somthing like that.:angry:

[BuFfY]

It's pretty disgusting what people get away with, last year some people in my town had spent the day wagging school and were at a drug dealers house all day, they thought it would be funny to steal a car and go for a drive. The boy driving had his learners and the other three in the car had nothing. Whilst on their drive they ended up running over a 3 year old girl who was playing on her front lawn. All that happened to them was the boy driving got his licence taken off him, even though he said that he never wanted to drive again.... This to me is bullshit! All he got was a slap on the hand and was suspended from school for like 2 days! And the poor parents of that wee girl didn't get any sort of compensation:nono:

[ManDownUnder]

what? you want me to tie you up too???? bring a toothbrush:blip:

...go stick it up your bum...

[WINJA]

thank fuck the pigs were awake and nabbed the little shit , he would definately be a motorcyclists worst nightmare , rather than be caught it woulda been better if a train ran him over but you cant get all your wishes

[raster]

Friend of mine got T-boned in Papakura by a teen girl that was several times over the limit, had come up from Tauranga in her mums car(Mum didn't know this), got pissed at a party and proceeded to drive home and didn't get far.

Very lucky my friends second son wasn't in the car, seat got crushed.

Her dog wasn't happy either.

[bugjuice]

thank fuck the pigs were awake and nabbed the little shit , he would definately be a motorcyclists worst nightmare , rather than be caught it woulda been better if a train ran him over but you cant get all your wishes
WHO ARE YOU? BRING BACK WINJA!!

[Sniper]

Fucking hell.

[spudchucka]

With that level, he should have been charged as an adult which is 3 months jail, $4500.00 fine max and minimum 6 months disqualification. Although, being dealt with by Youth Aid, he will probably just get disqualified.
They have to have an FGC before an information can be laid, unless it was an arrest, which is unlikely seeing as it is an EBA matter. He should face the adult charge; that is what I have done when I've dealt with pissed juvies.

[Cibby]

WHO ARE YOU? BRING BACK WINJA!!



MAYBE HE IS SOBER

OR HE GOT IS ROOF PAINTED AND NO LONGER HAS A REASON TO LIVE:spudflip:

[Cibby]

Mind u I had heard that Cibby is in even more control when tied up.....!!!!

Graham i dont know where you hear such things..... :gob:

[ManDownUnder]

Graham i dont know where you hear such things..... :gob:

Certainly not from you (when you're wearing your gag anyway...!)

[scumdog]

And you hear that cliche' today so often "It's different now, the young ones know it's not o.k. to drink and drive, they always have a sober driver" - Yeah right!!!

They're just as bad as they've always been.:angry2:

And they grow up wearing seatbelts, reminding mum and dad to wear theirs too - then they turn 15, - and all this 'training' falls off and the 'forget' too put their seat-belts on - DUH!!!!

Merry effin' Christmas!!!

[scumdog]

thank fuck the pigs were awake and nabbed the little shit , he would definately be a motorcyclists worst nightmare , rather than be caught it woulda been better if a train ran him over but you cant get all your wishes

Nah, why didn't the little shit loser do a runner???? Blown the cops into the weeds - that's what WINJA would have done eh!!!!!:woohoo:

After all look what the little shit had to lose!! (Sorry, he's a loser anyway eh?)

[CPB]

wet bus ticket...again!!! yep, know of a 16yr old that was clocked at 180, ran from the law finally got caught, was disqualified from driving at the time, carrying passengers, over the limit...wet bus ticket...no time inside, suspension for 6 months, still drove, didn't get caught thought he was the man...no lesson learnt...not cool

[Skyryder]

from todays herald,


The 16-year-old will be dealt with by Youth Aid and faces maximum penalties of six weeks imprisonment, a $2250 fine and three months disqualification from driving.

And that's just one reason why there are so many of them.

Skyryder

[WINJA]

and you hear that cliche' today so often "it's different now, the young ones know it's not o.k. to drink and drive, they always have a sober driver" - yeah right!!!

they're just as bad as they've always been.:angry2:

and they grow up wearing seatbelts, reminding mum and dad to wear theirs too - then they turn 15, - and all this 'training' falls off and the 'forget' too put their seat-belts on - duh!!!!

merry effin' christmas!!!
why dont you suck mommas cock

[SixPackBack]

why dont you suck mommas cock
STOP SHOUTING WINJA>>>GETCHA FRIGGIN CAPS BACK

[WINJA]

stop shouting winja>>>getcha friggin caps back
spank turned my caps off

[WINJA]

now i cant choose size either

[SixPackBack]

OK what did you do?

[WINJA]

ok what did you do?

nothing , spank is just being a cocksucker and flexing his punnie nerd muscels

[scumdog]

now i cant choose size either

Does that mean you're stuck with a small cock??:whistle:

BTW Your mothers cock is bigger, and she said you're jealous.:motu:

[scumdog]

ok what did you do?

nothing , spank is just being a cocksucker and flexing his punnie nerd muscels

Is that 'puny nerd muscles' that you mean?

Get yer shit together man, you're really starting to lose it WINJA - you've lost your caps. you're stuck with a small cock and next thing you'll be saying your roof doesn't need painting!!!:eek5: :psst: :laugh: :killingme