Hayabusa owners

[nadroj]

Just wanted to start a thread for Busa owners to post their tyre & oil preferences and things like maintenence tips and problems they have experienced. Also mods carried out and improvements results.
I prefer Michelin Pilot Powers as a good gripping good mileage tyre - about 11k front & 8k rear. The bike is running Silkolene Pro4Plus 10-50 race 4T fully synthetic with the only down a slightly grabby clutch on take off. I'm currently having the gearbox rebuilt after losing 6th gear thru wear on the gear engagement dogs overriding the undercut. Some other parts showing slight wear have been replaced also including the clutch anti lockup gear (stops the back tyre locking up on downshifting).

[marty]

i'm running a diablo, but only got 1000kms out of it (joys of a new bike :) ) need to contact the previous owner and ask what oils he was running - it is still clean though. had a false neutral today - probably me just being lazy though - was my jeans and jacket ride day so was just cruising. like the sound of the pilot though - what sort of riding is that with? i've managed to heavily feather the diablo right out to the edges - it's is SOOO soft, and it gets hot - it steams after 20k riding in the wet! admitidly though it instils much confidence....

[marty]

oh and have you been here>>>? www.hayabusa.org if you can get past the jingoistic crap, it's got plenty of great info, although they tend to compete in _________________________________ instead of (an't find wiggly stuff sign)____----____----____----____----^^^^

[nadroj]

i'm running a diablo, but only got 1000kms out of it (joys of a new bike :) ) need to contact the previous owner and ask what oils he was running - it is still clean though. had a false neutral today - probably me just being lazy though - was my jeans and jacket ride day so was just cruising. like the sound of the pilot though - what sort of riding is that with? i've managed to heavily feather the diablo right out to the edges - it's is SOOO soft, and it gets hot - it steams after 20k riding in the wet! admitidly though it instils much confidence.... Some cruzin but lots of "spirited" riding with the likes of Sensei - say no more?

[Mrs Busa Pete]

hi we have a fulse neutral between 5 & 6 when oil gets a bit old the first oil change that we did was ween we got the bike at 11700 km we found fine grindings atatched to the magnet in the sump plug .we put castral gtx turbo in it this has been good but need to change now. I run pilots and got 8000 km from rear with more left in it before the brake fluid insadent. the front is at the same point not round but not a triange some were in between .will you be atending THE GATHERING IN TURANGI[

[busadayz]

I get false neutrals on mine 5th to 6th, done only 5200kms. Did it on my 01 busa too it had 25,000kms when i got that. Road and sport have have put in a fully syn oil, made the gear changes even better no dif 5th to 6th.
Am waiting for the 6000km service when they can have a closer look at it.
A few other owners in N.Z and abroad have had similar probs.
Apart from that no worries with them.
Will get 5500kms out of the std B/stone rear on there, after tthat will try out the Avon viper extreme tyers out. They are a soft compound so may wear out a bit quick, but would rather have the grip ta very much.

[Devil]

I prefer Michelin Pilot Powers as a good gripping good mileage tyre - about 11k front & 8k rear.
Cripes, I would have thought Powers on a busa would get eaten in half that distance. Maybe they would survive on my bike...

[Balrog]

Hey Peoples

This is my second busa first one was a 2000, this one a 2003
I've run Mobil One Oil in both bikes, did 77000ks on my 2000 busa with no problems ( until I crashed it :) )

I run Diablos front and rear, fantastic grip and handling, ok mileage. About
9000k for a front and between 3500 - 5000k out of a rear, depending on whether or not I've been touring two up or not.

Got a Full Akropovic Evolution Titianium exhaust, Powercommander USB, Valentine one Radar Detector and a H.A.R.D reciever for my helmet. For touring I run a Ventura pack system, with sport paniers and a tank bag. Thats great for Two up + tent + sleeping bags and can be taken off in 5 mins.

Just getting Carbon Fiber engine armour and R&G Crash bungs put on today. Won't be able to tell you how those work until I find another piece of road covered in Diesel :)

I also have a false neutral between 5th and 6th, but only when I'm a bit lazy
on the gear change.

Jimbo

[TriumphMan]

False neutrals between 5 & 6 eh Jim. Mine never does. You should have got a rocket. Mine never neutrals between 5 & 6. Probably cos it's only 5 speed.

[nadroj]

False neutrals between 5 & 6 eh Jim. Mine never does. You should have got a rocket. Mine never neutrals between 5 & 6. Probably cos it's only 5 speed.
AND IT'S UNDERPOWERED & OVERWEIGHT!

[Sensei]

So's your's LOL:2guns:

[Qkchk]

Im running a Michie Road on the rear (I can hear you guys questioning me already...) it sticks well, hasnt done any silly shit on me yet...... and have a Michie Pilot Sport on the front. Will be considering Pilot powers front and rear when the times comes for new tyres. I'm quite surprised at the mileage you guys are getting out of such a soft tyre (in comparison to my Michie Road - they are still a good tyre, Ive had a few people comment on the 'road' as a good all-rounder) one would think the the 'busa would chew one in a couple of thousand kms.......

Bike is a K4 registered as a 2005, bought it with 9000kms now hav 18000 on the clock. One of the Summerfest specials - Black/Purple with the 2 tri-carbon Yoshi pipes. Sounds the treat too. Would you guys recommend installing a power-commander? What are the benefits/cons? Looking at putting a K&N filter in for next service too. I also have the 'annoying' 5 to 6th gear falsing. Not the best thing you want to hear when you doin the 'higher speeds'....... Ive heard from another previous owner that it all comes down to the oil - how fresh it is and the viscosity/make. However it is a bit of fresh air to hear BusaJim still had his 'busa after 77,000kms. I wonder what the record would be for a 'busa with the longest kms before a engine recondition/replant?

[Patch]

Hi you lot,

I wouldn't bother with the PC. Just buy a TRE - Timing Retarder Elimininator, translation means . . . . . full horsepower in every gear and eliminates speed restrictor :spudwow: all for about $80 and only takes about 10mins to do.

Will work really well when you have installed the K & N, derestrict the airbox, and aftermarket pipes. Also check the throttle bodies for restrictors as well.

I have TRE'd and derestricted my airbox (as filter and pipes were done when I bought my bike) it goes sooooooo much better. Well worth the effort.

If ya need a hand with modding, sing out.

Cheers,

[busadayz]

Had my Busa at Colmans for a week for them to find out whats up with this false neutral 5th to 6th. Not once did they find it. Having said that it has only done it twice in 500 kms now i have it back. Still not brilliant, but better than it has been. They say it hopefully will go away with more kms.
Done 7500kms now, 5000 on the stock Bridgestone rubber it came with.
It now has Avon Viper supersports and despite looking a little ragged from the day at puke on friday they are great.
Cibbychk, if you read this where is my insurance qoute???

[terbang]

Hiall only done 160 kays on my K6 Busa so I know bugger all about it though I did find a false neutral yesterday. If I remember right my 1200 bandit had a few of those in the early stages (under 10000K) and settled down with age.
On my old bandit (similar weight) I got only about 4000 k's out of a Diablo on the rear and nearly double on the front. When I sold it I had done 2000 k on a new Diablo Strada that held up well with good performance (I think its a better deal with the strada). How much can I trust the standard fit tyres on these things (BT 5?'s or something)?

[Balrog]

Hi All

A TRE will not be enough if you put a full after market exhaust system on it.
A TRE affects the timing only, it doesn't change the bikes air fuel mixture which is what will be required if you enable the bike to breath better with a high flow air filter and full exhaust.
You will need to re-tune with either a TEKA unit which re-programes the on board ECU or a PowerCommander which alters the signal from the existing ECU.

If you've got a stock bike with a slip on replacement exhaust ( ie not a full header to bum replacement ) I wouldn't recommend a Powercommander as it wouldn't make a lot of difference for the amount of money you are going to have to spend. I got my first busa re-tuned with Welly Motorcycles TEKA unit to tune out the flat spots at low revs ( where they do all the emmission control testing ) and it smoothed it out around town a much cheaper option.

If you decide to buy a powercommander I got mine ( and the exhaust ) from
www.onlineparts.com. The Powercommander was about $450nz from the states but over $700 from any place in NZ that I could find.

BusaJim.

[Balrog]

Hi again

False neutrals between 5 & 6 seem to be a common problem with the busa, and not one which I have ever heard of being fixed. If you go to www.hayabusa.org you will find tons of posts with the same problem.

So I decided that I needed to deal with it.

On the two busas I've had it happened most frequently when I was short changing to 6th
around 4000 - 6000 rpms with the gear box not under very much load and I did a bit of a wishy washy gear lever movement.

It never happens when I'm accelerating hard and shifting. I've come to the conclusion that the big Suzuki's likes having some power going threw the gear box for it to start behaving.

I find pre-loading the gear lever before shifting greatly reduces the false neutral and also makes the gear change very snappy.

Try this next time you're out.
While in 5th and still accelerating put some upward pressure on the gear lever as thou you were going to change. As the clutch is still out it won't move as the gear box is under load ( it will if you're not accelerating ).
Now with the pressure still on the gear lever, change gear ( clutch in, drop revs etc ).
You will notice that as soon as you unload the gear box it will click into gear.
If you're accelerating hard it will snick in real quick, if you're putting around it might clunk in a bit but as long as your are firm with your pressure you it should go in.

I'm always a lot firmer in my 5 to 6th gear changes now and I rarely have the problem.

Hope it helps

BusaJim.

[marty]

i had a false nuetral 5th to 6th yesterday - mid power, about 180k. i just put it down to lazy changing.

new pilot sport on the rear - scrubbed it in and rode to tauranga. full on (well for me) over buckland rd and up the kaimais with no sliding or worries, but pretty squirrely in the hotter tar in the afternoon - probably not the tyres fault.

anyone else got a harmonic between 4800 and 5500rpm?

[terbang]

Just keeping the thread alive I've done 2000 kays on mine and the gearbox has settled down nicely and I havn'rt seen a false neutral in a while (maybe me getting used to it). The back tyre is taking a severe beating as expected so looks like this will be an expensivee consumable item. Another web forum suzukihayabusa.org/ (http://www.suzukihayabusa.org/) also has some interesting stuff on it. There appears to be a bit of an achilles heel in the Cam Chain Tensioner with a recall mos being done. Mine is a little noisey in that area but not enough to worry about (owned clattery old Suzukis fo 20 years now). Anyone else had any experiences in this area..?

[Marmoot]

New owner here.......

've done about 500kms on the bike so far in the last 4 days and found only two problems. One is the front brake bite is not as good as I want it to be. Any advice on brand and type of brakepads for replacement?

The other problem is the seat sticks! It is so sticky that getting off the bike is very hard and make me just want to keep on riding.....
Oh, and I tend to get disoriented when on the bike, and finding the shortest road home is always a huge problem.

[terbang]

Have the same prob with the disorientation and the seat..:slap:

[Cajun]

Marmoot we put a set of ebc HH sinsted in front of father in laws busa, made a huge difference.

[Balrog]

wonder what these would be like

http://www.kneedraggers.com/details/Brembo_Gold_Series_Sport_Upgrade_Kit_Suzuki_GSXR13 00--12-BREM-41.html

[Cajun]

if i you were gonna do that, i think it would be best to put a set of gsxr 1000 front end with radial mounted capilers and like on first.

[Marmoot]

Marmoot we put a set of ebc HH sinsted in front of father in laws busa, made a huge difference.

Thank's Cajun. Will certainly do that in the next pad change. EBC HH.

Anyone got experience with braided brake lines as well while we're at the brake topic?


Edit: *droll*.........on the brembos........*count money on wallet*...............*cry*..........

[Cajun]

Yeah braided lines also make a difference in braking feel, really depends on how far you go, i would change the pads, see how that goes, remember the busa as 6 pots, if you still not happy put on lines. by that stage, you be ready for fluid, or even change the brake fluid when you do the pads.

I changed the fluid in my bike couple of weeks ago, it just made a huge difference, from going factory fluid to ebc dot 4, i close to doubled the feeling by just fluid (already had ebc hh pads)

[terbang]

Braided brake lines and decent pads have made a lot of difference on other bikes I have owned. Soon as I'm over the warranty thing on mine I shall do the same..

[terbang]

Downloadable Busa Maint Manual HERE (http://www.nickslick.com/nico/HayabusaServiceManual-1999-2000.pdf) Just use your mouse right button menu (right click on link) and then save target to...
Its a biggie at 79 meg though..Enjoy

[Marmoot]

What's the best place for service in Auckland?

[Scouse]

What's the best place for service in Auckland?famous Flora's

[terbang]

What's the best place for service in Auckland?

Both Colemans and Haldane have given me good runs.

[terbang]

OK at 3000 kays the gearbox has settled down nicely and the engine has freed up and is quieter..! The rear tyre is Pucked so what is the answer how are you all doing with your tyres?

[Marmoot]

I've done about 1600kms since I got it and the Diablos are holding up quite nicely.
They were almost new when I bought the bike. It's still quite ok and not even half used yet.

[Cajun]

We put Michelin Pilot Powers on the father in laws busa, he arrives back from 14 days in the SI on thrusday so i will find out how they worked out. i know he stuffed a set of dunlop 208s on same trip on his bmw k1200rs

[terbang]

Thanks guys I'm gonna need to make the right decision here as I have allready figured the lack of traction that a heavy throttle hand can induce VS my missus starting to quack a bit about the cost of running this bike.

[Cajun]

Okay father in law got back from going around SI yesterday he as clocked up about 5,000kms on his michelin pilot powers, and he saying they still look good.

This bike has been lowered by 1 1/2" so you can ge ton power quicker and father in law is around 120kgs, and he had two full venture 45l bags full the whole trip.

So 5000kms+ out of a busa i think is very good

Same trip 2 years ago, on his bmw k1200rs, he stuffed a new set of dunlop 218's. (front and rear)

[beyond]

5,000 k's out of a tyre, on a Busa with luggage!!!!

Man, were the roads wet the whole trip. :)

[marty]

well i've done 1500k on my pilot power, having gne from an BT010.

no wheelies, but plenty of high speed commuting and some scratching and a 2-up coro loop have gone under it so far

after getting 2000k out of the 010 before it was through to the canvas, looks like i'll be trippling that on the pilot. at $260 fitted, it looks like it's going to be a good deal. it feels a little more 'squirrely' that the 010, but i just ride accordingly.

if anyone is thinking about mounting a detector, i have figured out a good mount that still allows full view of all the important bits - just can't see the clock.

[marty]

and girls always bleat about tyres. remind them how much they spend on shoes :)

[terbang]

Fitted a TRE today and the first impression is how smooth the thing operates through the gears and when opening the throttle after an engine brake the response is much smoother. Wet roads at the moment so self control is well in place so I havn't really had a decent ride with it but it looks promising.

[Marmoot]

Alright, a certain place in Auckland charged me $454 for a 12,000kms service on my Hayabusa. That is 4 hours of labour.
No problems found, only oil change and general checks.
The thing is, they completely missed a totally-worn rear brake pads which Cycletreads managed to diagnose in less than 1 minute.

Does that $$$ figure make sense?

If so, I'm happy....
If not, just one more chockup next time and I will name the place publicly here....

[Marmoot]

Fitted a TRE today and the first impression is how smooth the thing operates through the gears and when opening the throttle after an engine brake the response is much smoother. Wet roads at the moment so self control is well in place so I havn't really had a decent ride with it but it looks promising.

how much does this thing cost you and what is the complexity on doing it?

[nadroj]

Alright, a certain place in Auckland charged me $454 for a 12,000kms service on my Hayabusa. That is 4 hours of labour.
No problems found, only oil change and general checks.
The thing is, they completely missed a totally-worn rear brake pads which Cycletreads managed to diagnose in less than 1 minute.

Does that $$$ figure make sense?

If so, I'm happy....
If not, just one more chockup next time and I will name the place publicly here....


What details are on the invoice as it should show whether they checked the valve clearances which would justify the price as would air filter & plugs etc.

[terbang]

how much does this thing cost you and what is the complexity on doing it?
I went for this product here:JSD-3 (http://www.jsdproducts.com/Product_Info/JSD-3/jsd-3.html) comes with instructions and takes about 5 mins to fit.

[terbang]

Alright, a certain place in Auckland charged me $454 for a 12,000kms service on my Hayabusa. That is 4 hours of labour.
No problems found, only oil change and general checks.
The thing is, they completely missed a totally-worn rear brake pads which Cycletreads managed to diagnose in less than 1 minute.

Does that $$$ figure make sense?

If so, I'm happy....
If not, just one more chockup next time and I will name the place publicly here....

Well if they missed the brake pads you wonder how close they were looking. I see by the manual that its not up for a Valve clearance till 24000KM. So what did they do for 4 hours..? You might have been shafted there mate I'd be asking some questions.

[Marmoot]

Well if they missed the brake pads you wonder how close they were looking. I see by the manual that its not up for a Valve clearance till 24000KM. So what did they do for 4 hours..? You might have been shafted there mate I'd be asking some questions.

Nah, I'm not the type that ask questions. I always think if you come up and make trouble, then they can always sprinkle a pinch of sugar into the oil on the next service.
Normally I'll just go somewhere else.

You reckon I've been shafted?
Anybody else reckon I've been shafted?
If there is enough voice, I will name and shame.......

[Big Dog]

Only "spannering" have done on mine is experimenting with conigurations seat hump and pack rack.
Only usefull info i can offer is that I have done 3000 plus km's on three different chain lubes.

First up was Putoline, followed by Golden Spectrum, followed by Silkolene.

Putoline
- Dosing = 600 - 900kms.
- Brilliant if a little messy.
- Prone to Fling during application.
- Would not hesitate to but again.
- $19.95
- Only stopped using it because the can dried up.

Golden Spectrum
- Dosing = 300 - 600 kms.
- Easy to get on the chain - low pressure foam.
- Absolute crap.
- Chain "Blues" at 600kms (less if riden enthusiastically).
- Easy to get off the chain!
- Turns into a tar like substace when applied to heat.
- Get it on hot metal parts and degreaser will not get it off (bug and tar remover works)
- $29.95
- Stopped using it because sick of the mess and needing to apply it every 300 kms. Went back to Putaline.
- Even when carefully maintained the chain was snatchy from 2000kms.
Complained to suppliers of Golden Spectrum.
They supplied me with a can of Silkolene Gel gratis (FREE)

Silkolene Gel
- Dosing = 1000-2000kms
- Chain stopped being snatchy immediately.
- Have done 2400 kms without drying the chain.
- Messy to apply - very high pressure, definately need to mask!
- No noticeable fling, still need to clean old fling from other two though!
- $29.95

Summary - I currently have at least half a can of each product so what do I use?
Silkolene Gel = Current preferred product will buy again!
Putolene = When Silkolene runs out will use till empty and then replace with Silkolene!
Golden Spectrum = Will not use on current bike, will try on pillions learner bike (when she gets one), or just give away to low power bike owner, not suitable for bikes with high chain speeds. The only use I have for this product is to throw at anyone who touches my bike without my say so!

[Big Dog]

Does that $$$ figure make sense?

If so, I'm happy....
If not, just one more chockup next time and I will name the place publicly here....
My 12000 km "A" service (full service including Dyno) cost me $408 after regular shopper discount (without discount approx $450). They polished her to a high sheen, and provided a loaner @ no extra charge.

My guage of a fair price is if you feel you cheated them and tehy feel they cheated you it was fair.

[Cajun]

Marmoot - i believe you have been ripped of thats insane prices, for a 12,000km service.

It only cost me $200 for the 24,000 service on my 600, which involves valve clearence checks.

I know father in laws bike is due to go in for its 12,000km service shortly, and i would be expecting it to only be around that $200 mark

[DEATH_INC.]

how much does this thing cost you and what is the complexity on doing it?
Ride her over to my place and I can do the mod in about 5 mins (if I can get at the wires on the bus without pulling stuff off)and about 20c.....

[Marmoot]

...(if I can get at the wires on the bus without pulling ......

ha ha ha.....ha.........ha.....
No offense, but that thing has more upholstery than my room.
Took me 1 hour and 2 people to figure out how to change a lightbulb (there you go, the answer to How many Hayabusa fans does it take to change a lightbulb)

Very thank's for the offer mate, will keep it in my agenda for near future.

[Cajun]

Death - its prety easy to get at, take seat off, lift tank up and its right there.

Marmoot it makes a huge difference my father in law said bike is so much smoother thru the gears and to ride in general, and doesn't 'hunt' down low around town and like.

What the TRE does it tell the bike thats in 5th gear all the time, since they limit the hp in 1,2,3,4 to half hp under 50% throttle, and then at certain rpm in 6th the speed limiter, this in turn removes these.

The removing speed limiter isn't to much of an issue really, but it really helps bike down low.

[Marmoot]

I might deserve the tar&feather for this, but......what about the fuel consumption?

(question asked purely for research and statistical purposes)

[terbang]

I might deserve the tar&feather for this, but......what about the fuel consumption?

(question asked purely for research and statistical purposes)

Shouldnt make any difference as what normally happens in 1-4 gears the timing is retarded to reduce power (poor mans traction control) and the timing is correct in 5th & 6th thus giving full wick.

ECM is a micro-controller preprogrammed by Suzuki to process various sensor input such as: air box pressure, intake air temperature, coolant temperature, base barometric pressures, camshaft position, crankshaft position, engine RPM, throttle position and notably, the transmission gear selected via the GPS

GPS The Gear position switch located behind the clutch pack on the right side of engine. This sensor provides a different resistance value for each of the 6 transmission gears, which in turn, provides 6 different voltages to the ECM allowing it to determine which gear the transmission is in at any given moment.

TRE installed between the GPS and ECM normally uses a 6.8K ohm resistance value to simulate 5th gear. The TRE is a means to bypass the excessively retarded ignition-timing present while in 1st thru 4th gears while below 4,000 RPM. Since ignition-timing provided by 5th gear proves far superior than that provided by 1st thru 4th gears while below 4,000 RPM, the TRE provides the means to endlessly invoke 5th gear ignition-timing while in all of the Hayabusa’s 6 transmission gears, which most noticeably improves engine performance (increasing low end grunt and engine smoothness) when operating below 4,000 RPM.

As I see it you shouldnt get any real adverse change in the Fuel consumption..
Enjoy.

[Cajun]

I have heard of people getting better fuel combustion, and the fuel combustion on my 600 from before and after the tre show little better fuel combustion

[imdying]

You mean consumption?

[Marmoot]

Just did 22 half-loop today down to huntly and back through Te-Kauwhata-Maramarua.

My question is: Where can I buy a self-restraint?

Just realized it's pretty hard to stick under 140.........

[Big Dog]

My question is: Where can I buy a self-restraint?

Sadly not even an aftermarket option.
Your only choice is to relax and keep in mind.
If you have no patience you will end up one sooner or later. Question is which ward!
Bloody hard to rein one in, which makes it just as well that they handle so well.

[terbang]

Just did 22 half-loop today down to huntly and back through Te-Kauwhata-Maramarua.

My question is: Where can I buy a self-restraint?

Just realized it's pretty hard to stick under 140.........

Yup I agree it is difficult took mine down from Tuakau to Ngarawahia and back today..Oooh its like a rough coro loop..the temptation was there but a recent $300 fine was there as well. Jeez these busas sure can fly..

[Balrog]

Hey All

Just got back from our Northland tour.
We rode from Wellington to Orewa on day one going up the coast to Wanganui then thru the
back roads up behind Taupo.
After staying at Orewa we went up to Russell via the Whakapara turn off thru the back roads.
The next day we took the Russell Ferry across to Paihia and then rode up to Pukenui where
we stayed at the most Northern Motel in the country.
After dumping all our gear at the motel we then road up to Cape Reinga.
It didn't take to long to get used to riding the Busa up the gravel road. We managed to
ride at 60 to 70kphs along most of the road. The worst part was the corrugations in the road
from all the tour buses. At one point I had to stop as my Radar detector had vibrated off the
suction cups holding it to the windshield. But they only occured on the way up the steep parts.
I've attached a couple of pics of the only bike in the Cape Reinga car park and the state of my chain after riding 50+ ks on loose gravel.

I'm pleased I was running a Scott Oiler
You can see my chain is covered in gravel dust and crap. All I had to do
was reach under my seat, turn the Scott Oiler up for 100ks or so and voila a nice clean ( oiled ) chain with the crap gone.

Next day saw us riding down the west coast of the North Island via Kaitaia, round the back roads
thru Manukau, Herekino, across the ferry from Kohukohu to Rawene then round the south head
thru Dargaville to Matakohe where we stayed that night.
Last two days were just making our way back to Wellington via the same route we took on the
way up.

We managed to hit that huge rain storm when we road thru Auckland. I've ridden in some
pretty shitty weather before but that wins the gold medal. The rain
was coming down so hard I could hardly see the the lines on the motorway. Any vehicle driving without
their lights on was nearly invisible.

The road from Wanganui up thru the National Park is a riders dream. Nice empty roads and just corner after corner.

We had one silly off. In Whangerei I decided to lower my idle as it was to high. Then pulling out into
traffic I stalled the bike, got off balance and we both fell off on the side of the road in the grass.
Lucky the R&G crash protectors saved the bike.
Wearing a helmet ( blush ) and nobody knowing me in Whangerei saved the pride

[Big Dog]

:gob: Rock on! sounds like an excellent ride!
not sure i am Man enough to ride down 50km of gravel at 70kmph on a bus.
Good to hear at least one of the bus drivers on this site can actually use it the way it was intended.

[200BUSA]

04 busa first reg april 05 i have had new since then i got the last one of summerfest special,great bike-now done 15700km still original front bridgestone and changed the rear bridgestone at 6200km to a Metzeler Roadtec Z6 a fantastic tire,has a hard centre and soft sides,great grip.Good in the wet to.I struck a false neutral yesterday on the way back from Picton,it just didnt want to slip into 6th.I get the busa seviced at Sportzone Suzuki-great bunch of guys there.I get a quote before they do service - saves a few dollars as labour costs add up quick.12000km service was $290 Next service gets a K@N filter then new cans,then TRE but as it sits it is plenty fast enough(to many cops).It is a great cruising bike and i ride it every day to work.

[200BUSA]

The Australian Hayabusa owners club website is really good for info and good for a laugh-check it out sometime.

[200BUSA]

www.ozbusa.com

[busadayz]

Any body here with a Busa taken it around pukekohe track, if so any one got any lap times/ thoughts on how it went???

[terbang]

Just did 1800 kays (2 up) in the wet on a Avon Azarro ST.. Good tyre in the wet and reliable to the "Edge" in the dry and its wearing well with lots of life left in it..? Highly reccommended..

[Marmoot]

Any body here with a Busa taken it around pukekohe track, if so any one got any lap times/ thoughts on how it went???

There was one nice philipino KBer (I dont remember his nickname) with his silver Busa.
Quite impressive on exiting the castrol (mind you I was on SP1 at that time). Managed to beat him only by braking a bit later n entering the hairpin. That Busa sure does fly on the track.

[Marmoot]

ARGH....my first time hit the false-neutral when changing from 4th to 5th.........

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ah well.......carry on........

[terbang]

I've hit a couple od false neutrals on mine in the last 8000 kays. Not a big problem really mainly caused by a lazy left foot. I have a TRE fitted to mine and it smothes things out nicely. At 8000k I reckon Ive only got at least a thousand or so kays left out of the front tyre its doing the 10 oclock 2 oclock thing badly now. I dont like front end slips and am thinking of matching the rear Avon with a sticky Avon on the front..?
any ideas..?

[sAsLEX]

any ideas..?

motohaus do a 1000k trail on new avon sets, just got a viper on the front of my bike

[nadroj]

Just put a new set on today & looked back to see how long they were on.
Front was worn worse on the right hand side & lasted 17,500Km.
Rear was punctured on the Wakanaki sheep fest ride by sharp grit stones, plugged & semi nana'd to 8,500Km with another 1500-2000 left in it if it hadn't been punctured. I reckon thats bloody good value for one of the best tyres on the market especially when the new ones were mistakenly quoted at cost price and although I offered to pay a fair price they declined and accepted the quoted price only which incuded fitting and balancing.

[sAsLEX]

were mistakenly quoted at cost price and although I offered to pay a fair price they declined and accepted the quoted price only which incuded fitting and balancing.

But I bet you go back therer for years to come! A lot of businesses need to relise that.

[terbang]

I'm now on Avons. The front is a Viper Sport and after a slippery coro loop I am sold on it as far as performance is concerned. Will keep you up on the longivety of it..?
The rear is still the Azzarro ST which has now done 7500kays and is a good compromise between performance and durability on the back of this monster. Its about 80% worn and I might go to the Viper on the back next to match the front. Just clicked over 10,000 kays since Feb..
Lotsa bike there and lotsa grins..

[M1CRO]

In keeping with the Hayabusa owners.. Here is my latest Mods (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=725451#post725451)

[cuppa]

hi we have a fulse neutral between 5 & 6 when oil gets a bit old the first oil change that we did was ween we got the bike at 11700 km we found fine grindings atatched to the magnet in the sump plug .we put castral gtx turbo in it this has been good but need to change now. I run pilots and got 8000 km from rear with more left in it before the brake fluid insadent. the front is at the same point not round but not a triange some were in between .will you be atending THE GATHERING IN TURANGI[

Hi Busa pete
have you ever had a problem with a crack in the sump pan.And were would you pick up a new one cheep

[Maha]

Hi Busa pete
have you ever had a problem with a crack in the sump pan.And were would you pick up a new one cheep

Australia is where they sell them cheap.....i would try silly putty first, before giving them money....:confused:

[terbang]

Just fitted a set of Pilot Powers to me Busa. The guy who fitted them said 36 PSI but it feels a bit rubbery and the manual says higher of course. What do you guys use..?

[Jimmy B]

Just fitted a set of Pilot Powers to me Busa. The guy who fitted them said 36 PSI but it feels a bit rubbery and the manual says higher of course. What do you guys use..?

I would go with the manual because I believe tyre pressure is really about suspension and how that is set up. My bike has 2 recommended tyres in the book but only 1 recomended pressure 36 psi front and 42 psi rear

Edit: above does not relate to a Busa

[Balrog]

Just fitted a set of Pilot Powers to me Busa. The guy who fitted them said 36 PSI but it feels a bit rubbery and the manual says higher of course. What do you guys use..?

I run between 40 and 42psi front and rear.
I find anything less and it starts to feel sluggish when turning.

I run Pirelli Diablos

[M1CRO]

42 rear & 39 front for me on M3's.. I normally ride 1 up, and Shaun Harris has tweaked my suspension settings late last year so I find that the combination is good for me on both trackdays and road riding :yes:

[Devil]

42 rear & 39 front for me on M3's.. I normally ride 1 up, and Shaun Harris has tweaked my suspension settings late last year so I find that the combination is good for me on both trackdays and road riding :yes:

How many k's are you getting from the M3's?

[Jimmy B]

I run between 40 and 42psi front and rear.
I find anything less and it starts to feel sluggish when turning.

I run Pirelli Diablos

Thats interesting BusaJim cause Avon Tyres recommend 42/42 for the Blackbird (effectively what you are running).

Yet:

http://www.avon-tyres.co.uk/motorcycle/?page=fitment&method=fitments&manufacturer=57&id=1334&model=hayabusa&year=2006

[Devil]

I run between 40 and 42psi front and rear.
I find anything less and it starts to feel sluggish when turning.

I run Pirelli Diablos

Diablo's turn a bit slower than powers or M3's anyway. You may benefit from a change of tyre if you're finding the turning sluggish. I'd go for the M3's myself. They seem to have the most progressive profile.

[Balrog]

Thats interesting BusaJim cause Avon Tyres recommend 42/42 for the Blackbird (effectively what you are running).

Yet:

http://www.avon-tyres.co.uk/motorcycle/?page=fitment&method=fitments&manufacturer=57&id=1334&model=hayabusa&year=2006

Hey Jimmy
Had a look at the avon site.
Thought I'd check out what they recommended for the GSX-R1000. It seems its
the same pressures. If fact all the Suzuki 1000cc bikes quoted 36front 42rear.

I'm not tyre expert but the Busa weighs about 40 kilo more than a suzuki 1000
and I would have thought that would have required higher pressures in the tyres
to compensate. ( Busa's one of the few bikes I've owned where you didn't up the tyre pressure when you added a pillion )

Mind you at the end of the day, you get used to riding what ever you've got
and unless you're getting some strange tyre wear it probably doesn't matter
to much as long as you like how it handles.

I tend to stick with what the manual recommends

:)

[Big Dog]

Hey Jimmy
Had a look at the avon site.
Thought I'd check out what they recommended for the GSX-R1000. It seems its
the same pressures. If fact all the Suzuki 1000cc bikes quoted 36front 42rear.

I'm not tyre expert but the Busa weighs about 40 kilo more than a suzuki 1000
and I would have thought that would have required higher pressures in the tyres
to compensate. ( Busa's one of the few bikes I've owned where you didn't up the tyre pressure when you added a pillion )

Mind you at the end of the day, you get used to riding what ever you've got
and unless you're getting some strange tyre wear it probably doesn't matter
to much as long as you like how it handles.

I tend to stick with what the manual recommends

:)
yup
feels like it is about to wash out if it drops below 40psi at the front and feels like you have water in your lines if it does the same in the rear (power is still there but delivery is a little hesitant).

Some people reccommend dropping 2lb over winter (so the tyre heats up quicker) but I prefer to keep to the recommended pressure.

[Balrog]

Diablo's turn a bit slower than powers or M3's anyway. You may benefit from a change of tyre if you're finding the turning sluggish. I'd go for the M3's myself. They seem to have the most progressive profile.

:)

Nothing sluggish about the Diablos.
I just about did a U turn going round a mild corner the first time I put them on.
Gave me a hell of a fright.

I just notice a difference in handling when the tyre pressure drops, the steering gets heavy and it requires more effort to flick the bike.

The Busa's a big heavy bike ( or I thought it was until I bought a GS adventure, thats really big. Busa feels like a 250 when I get back on it )
so its probably more noticeable than on a lighter bike.

Maybe I'm just talking crap and imagining things.
Maybe if I didn't know the tyre pressures were low, I'd not notice a thing .....

Blind fold tyre test ....... ..... .... .. . busa parts for sale

[Marmoot]

Took mine to Taupo Trackday last Friday. It was funny and I definitely enjoyed my track time better on my brother's NSR250.

BUT, to be able to ride from Auckland to Taupo and back Taupo to Auckland without being too tired is a blessing!

[ArcherWC]

Well, I have now joined the Busa Clan.

Mods to my baby are

Carbon Micron Cans
K&N air filter
PCIII
Braided lines
Double bouble dark screen
Baehr Verso XL intercom, with MP3 and radar input
Uniden UHF radio (bike to bike)
Passport X50 Radar detector
Aluminium skid knobs
Ventura Pack rack and light covers
Integrated LED tail light
Pilot Power tyres

[M1CRO]

Reading another thread (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=45452)on KB on Octane rating, made me have a quick look at the Workshop manual for the Busa which states (outside of the US), use graded 91 Octane (Research Method) or higher Unleaded gasoline is recommended.

Now, I have ALWAYS used 91 and never really thought about changing to a higher octane rating..

So the short story... What do you guys use and have you tried others?

[nadroj]

I've tried 91, 95 & 98. I get better economy on the higher octane but the extra price negates it. Hard to tell if power is better as you would have to retune for it to get an advantage.

[Big Dog]

Reading another thread (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=45452)on KB on Octane rating, made me have a quick look at the Workshop manual for the Busa which states (outside of the US), use graded 91 Octane (Research Method) or higher Unleaded gasoline is recommended.

Now, I have ALWAYS used 91 and never really thought about changing to a higher octane rating..

So the short story... What do you guys use and have you tried others?

98 octane
I see no performance or efficiency gain going 1 up.
Significant efficiency gain 2 up.

96/5 octane
I see no performance or efficiency gain going 1 up.
No efficiency gain 2 up and the pipes get sooty.

91 octane
I see efficiency gain going 1 up.
Efficiency loss 2 up and the pipes get sooty.

All on BP because of fuel card.
However on Caltex 91 I get an efficiency gain over all above listed and no soot in either one up or 2 up.

No long term recorded stats to back this up but on the 91 caltex my trip comp always showed 19kmpl going long distance, all bp fuels seem to top out at 15kmpl.

[M1CRO]

I've tried 91, 95 & 98. I get better economy on the higher octane but the extra price negates it. Hard to tell if power is better as you would have to retune for it to get an advantage.
Thanks for that.. Having a look at the Australian Board, and BP/Vortex 95 seems to be the most commonly used one over there.. Your comment is also re-inforced by a few as well

So do you swap around.. or have you settled on one?
Am off to Napier this weekend, so I will have a play - unless anyone thinks I shouldn't?

[M1CRO]

Thanks Big Dog.. Extremely helpful :)

[Big Dog]

Am off to Napier this weekend, so I will have a play - unless anyone thinks I shouldn't?
You did not ask me but I'm less than humble....

Ride whatever you already have in the tank (fill it up) record mileage.
run as low as you can and fill with new choice (preferably after already running a tank of the new choice). Ride the same route on the way back or in similar conditions and again record mileage.

Repeat as required. factors such as your size and your load will affect the benefits - as well as what fuel you had in your tank the last time you had a full service or otherwise adjusted your fueling.

[Balrog]

98 if its available
95 otherwise.
91 if I have to

On 98
350k out of a tank, cruising at 100kph
260 - 280 touring two up not at 100k :)
210 - 240ish riding back and forth to work
160k out of a tank with a day spent at the flying quarters

I think you get better economy with your right wrist than your fuel choice.
I haven't ever noticed much difference from one fuel to the next.
But then the tanks not usually totally empty and I haven't ridden exactly the same roads
with exactly the same throttle movements.
I just happen to prefer 98.

When I'm home its always 98BP, when I'm touring its whatever is served
at the petrol station I stop at.

I wouldn't worry about it, put in what you can afford as long as its within the
bikes octane range and it runs alright.

:stoogie:

[Rotor]

Hi
just brought my '03 out from Aussie and looking for bussa (or anything) riders to ride with
if you sit on 180km plus for 1.5hrs (Aussie roads are fucken straight) fuel doesn't last long
NZ roads are "choice as" 100km speed limits on roads that you are hard pushed to do 80/90km/hr
in Aussie twisty roads have 60km/hr speed limits and they are not that twisty
I'm glad to be home
NOTE:Aussie bike riders are good people
Rotor

[M1CRO]

NOTE:Aussie bike riders are good people
Rotor
I know what you mean.. Bought mine back from Sydney, and the Sydney Motorcycle Club was an awesome bunch of people - as well as here before anyone gets started :innocent:

There are a few rides out and about, so I suggest you keep an eye out on the calendar :yes:

[Marmoot]

Been looking at the Limited Edition (canadian version) White Hayabusa in Holeshot (North Shore) and drolling on the forecourt over it.......

So milky pearly yummy snowy white........ :love:

Too bad it's 21.5k

[Rotor]

I went to the Australian Hayabusa Club annual Jinderbine NSW run in 2004/2005 and the tricked up, blinged up Bussa's there WOW. Were 53 in the photo 2004

[imdying]

So milky pearly yummy snowy white........ :love:Full of protein I bet...

[ArcherWC]

not much info, but its a start

http://www.motorcycledaily.com/29march07_hayabusa.htm

[Marmoot]

Guys,

With all regret I am signing out from Hayabusa Owners club

[nadroj]

Awaiting a ride review by HXC!

[hXc]

Awaiting a ride review by HXC!
Well what can I say? I didn't expect M1CRO's comment yesterday, "You can take the 'Busa out if you want" to be serious. (My bike is in gettin' a camchain done.)

I was kindly offered the use of a FZR400 race bike, and was pretty excited about that, having never ridden a 4cyl before, and never ridden a 'sports bike', nor anything bigger than a 250 either.

So off I go to the trackday today, excited about riding the 400. Which, to be honest, just did everything that the Spada did, but quicker and smoother - not much of a change. I joke about how my leathers don't match the 'Busa so I'll have to steal M1CRO's, and he says it's all about style. Then, in all honesty, word for word..."Nah, you can take it out later if you want. Just take it easy. Why don't you go up and down the pits now?"

I of course, jump at the opportunity. And find myself riding quite happily, this beast, when mum spots me...and I laugh. So after 2-3 minutes of up and down the pits, with pictures being taken, I give him back his trusty steed, to wait until later.

Later comes...wow! Holy shit these things are fast! It's a big bike, but not too noticeable when riding it. I took it easy the first couple of laps, then gently pumped the pace up a bit. Was quite happy doing 220ish down the back straight before braking early, to not frighten myself. I reluctantly pull away from the track as the session ends, only to discover many standing, waiting for my response of "Holy shit, these things are fast!"

Was an absolutely awesome ride, and an opportunity I gladly jumped at, although causing controversy with a few, including parents at first. M1CRO watched me like a hawk as I rode around that track with the biggest grin (thank God for bandanas). So thanks to M1CRO for placing that much trust in me to take his bike out, I know it was probably damn hard to hand the seat over.

Thanks mate.

[yungatart]

Well what can I say? .

I don't know....but you can change that siggy (back). It awaits too far in the future to be relevant at this stage of your licence conditions, young man:dodge:

[M1CRO]

So thanks to M1CRO for placing that much trust in me to take his bike out, I know it was probably damn hard to hand the seat over.
No worries mate.. You did well!!! :yes: