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dawnrazor
19th December 2005, 05:50
Saw this book in a shop yesterday called "the motorcycling map (atlas) of new zealand". Interested, i picked it up expecting it to be laminated pages to protect against tearing by gloved hands and water-proof as well, after all that would be handy on something that pretends to be for bikers. But no it was a regular spiral bound map, albeit the size of a large paperback (which presumably means more page turning, and the potential for more tearing), that showed places of interest to bikers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!! At this stage I threw it down for the worthless piece of crap it was. Anyone else seen this map, maybe you'll get one in your stocking on christmas morning from a well meaning relation, hope they keep the receipt :bash:

Sniper
19th December 2005, 07:05
Do a search on it matey. Vifferman bought it and said is great.

TLDV8
19th December 2005, 07:17
I'm going for a bit of a ride in the new year so sounds like a must have..:niceone:

Virago
19th December 2005, 08:13
If you've finished the useless rant, perhaps you could tell us what book it is?

Is it Peter Mitchell's book?

1. The reason that it is spiral-bound, is for ease of use on the road. It allows the book to be folded open at the page required.

2. The size of the book was specially selected to allow it to fit into tank-back pockets.

3. You want each page individually laminated? The book would be so fat and heavy it would be unwieldy for road use.

I guess it is impossible to please everyone.

I'd be happy to get one for Christmas!

heavenly.talker
19th December 2005, 08:34
Got both Peter Mitchells and the Motorcycling Atlas and rate them both :-)

They have been great in helping us prepare for our trip and they both are coming with us!

Motu
19th December 2005, 08:41
I could do without the tourist babble in the front,but otherwise I really like it.I don't have a tank bag so don't often take it with me - I'll blow up a page on the photocopier of the area I want to ride in and carry it by whatever means I have at the time.I like the plastic cover and it sits on my desk at home for reference.

inlinefour
19th December 2005, 08:46
Blimmin good read. Made me aware of places I have never known about. Your right about it being no good for the gloved hand. However we have a photocpoyer at work and I just make a copy of what I need.

snuffles
19th December 2005, 08:48
bugger maps, saw the perfect thing for it yesterday, harvey normans $999.00
GPS which has destination settings, you just tell it where you want to go and it shows you what road to take and how far.

comes with NZ maps and is small eneough to fit in your tank bag.

hopew santa brings me one.

Fordy
19th December 2005, 09:22
Got both Peter Mitchells and the Motorcycling Atlas and rate them both :-)

They have been great in helping us prepare for our trip and they both are coming with us!

I've got Peter Mitchell's Great Escapes, and yeah great for trip planning. I leafed thru the Atlas, and it just appeared to be Great Escapes rebranded with Hema (?) maps....so the Hema map went on the Xmas list instead. Are they that different?

Biff
19th December 2005, 09:43
I've owned a few biking maps in my time (of European countries). All of their pages were platic coated. Perfik for motormacyling tours.

I've been looking for one for NZ for over a year now. So if anyone finds one (I hate those spiral bound standard paper ones as well), please let us know.

Ta.

pritch
19th December 2005, 10:39
I've got both books and refer to them at frequent intervals.

It is from looking at the "atlas" that Im using SH22 to get to Auckland on Saturday, doing the Coro loop on Tuesday, and coming home via some roads I have never previously used on Wednesday.

It is also the source of info for working out my route around the South Island later in the summer.

I recommend the book. You don't have to use it while actually on the road, but it's great for planning journeys.

By the way, nobody has answered my question re SH22 in the Road condition thread.

Thanks in anticipation to any kind person who may do so.

Lou Girardin
19th December 2005, 11:18
bugger maps, saw the perfect thing for it yesterday, harvey normans $999.00
GPS which has destination settings, you just tell it where you want to go and it shows you what road to take and how far.

comes with NZ maps and is small eneough to fit in your tank bag.

hopew santa brings me one.

Yeah, but is it programmed for interesting roads or just the straight busy ones?

vifferman
19th December 2005, 11:25
Yeah, but is it programmed for interesting roads or just the straight busy ones?
I had a play with one of these last summer. You can program in the way you want to go, but as you come up to each intersection, it shows you alternative routes in a different colour. Because we knew where we were going, we took lots of detours from the route we'd programmed (the quickest route), just to see what it would do about it. After a short while, when it realises you're not lost but ignoring it, it reporgrams the route based on the road you're taking, rather than the criteria you've set (shortest / quickest / main raods / secondary roads, etc.).
The Navman's bloody good, but not waterproof. The day I used it on the bike (used it in the car the rest of the week I had it), I stuck it under the windscreen, but the weather was fine anyway. If it was a wee bit cheaper, and weather resistant, I'd buy one. Although I'd have to get an extension satellite aerial, as the vifferbabe's car's got thermo-summat-or-other window glass that filters out IR, UV as well as radio signals.

Oh, and BTW - the Peter Mitchell motorcycling atlas is great. No, it's not waterproof, because it's te perfect size for the waterproof compartment on a tankbag.

dawnrazor
19th December 2005, 11:38
I've owned a few biking maps in my time (of European countries). All of their pages were platic coated. Perfik for motormacyling tours.

I've been looking for one for NZ for over a year now. So if anyone finds one (I hate those spiral bound standard paper ones as well), please let us know.

Ta.

Thank you. When something calls itself a motorcycling map, I was expecting it be at least water proof. I have also used the laminated maps of the UK and they are great, not heavy at all.

dawnrazor
19th December 2005, 11:48
If you've finished the useless rant, perhaps you could tell us what book it is?

Is it Peter Mitchell's book?

1. The reason that it is spiral-bound, is for ease of use on the road. It allows the book to be folded open at the page required.

2. The size of the book was specially selected to allow it to fit into tank-back pockets.

3. You want each page individually laminated? The book would be so fat and heavy it would be unwieldy for road use.

I guess it is impossible to please everyone.

I'd be happy to get one for Christmas!

Useles rant - thanks a fucking bunch mate, if everyone quit posting "useless rants", it'd be a quite website.

No its just a regular map book much like the one I keep in the car! You know a map, handy in the car out of the elements.

Laminated maps are not unwieldy, do a search for tuff maps and see for yourself, I've used laminated maps of the UK and they are sweet, the trick is because they are lightly laminated the paper can be thiner.

Imossible to please everyone, give me a break.

For fucks sake, I was only asking about it, 'cus I felt it was a bit of a jip and that prehaps the makers had missed a trick. Also why do we need our own special maps anyways.

pritch
19th December 2005, 12:41
Also why do we need our own special maps anyways.

I was asked that by a workmate who saw the book the day I bought it. So I opened it at a page covering the local area and showed it to him. He looked at a bit puzzled, then noticed which roads were hilighted and went "Ahhhh" as the penny dropped.

If you want to use only State Highways 1, 2 or 3 to get around the country you don't need this book. If you'd rather travel by "interesting" roads more suited to motorcycles this book can be a big help.

clint640
19th December 2005, 14:33
I got given Peter Mitchells atlas for me bday recently & I think it's great. The content is excellent. (apart from the multitude of icons signifying campervan effluent dump sites :scratch: )
A laminated version would be cool though - I used one in Europe that was in a ringbinder, far too big to take on the bike but you could clip out just the pages you needed which was really useful.

Cheers
Clint

Virago
19th December 2005, 15:45
Useles rant - thanks a fucking bunch mate................I was only asking about it, 'cus I felt it was a bit of a jip and that prehaps the makers had missed a trick. Also why do we need our own special maps anyways.
Okay, fair enough - no insult intended. It did seem though that you were slamming the product for all the reasons that made it a popular and useful choice for bikers (the spiral binding, tank-bag pocket size etc). It certainly appears that you're in a very small minority who considers it to be utterly useless.

You probably have a point though regarding thin lamination to make it waterproof - but I bet it would double the price of the book.

crazyxr250rider
19th December 2005, 15:55
Does it include gravel roads?

Motu
19th December 2005, 16:29
Yep,and it's the only map I've seen where they are acurate,although sealcreep is happening so fast it'll be out of date in weeks.

heavenly.talker
20th December 2005, 07:46
I've got Peter Mitchell's Great Escapes, and yeah great for trip planning. I leafed thru the Atlas, and it just appeared to be Great Escapes rebranded with Hema (?) maps....so the Hema map went on the Xmas list instead. Are they that different?


Major difference is the slant by the authors.

Eurodave
20th December 2005, 07:57
The solution is obvious to those of us that arnt tightwads. Why not stop all this bellyaching & just get it laminated & re bound !! Go & see 'Parrots' or somewhere similar & ask the question.Then ,apart from it being waterproof & much more durable ,you could also draw all over it too
May cost a bit but would last A LOT longer, but as has been pointed out, the info would soon date

Finn
20th December 2005, 08:31
My lady got it for me a few weeks back and I think it's great, especially for focusing on biker friendly roads. The perfs make it easy to lighten it up by removing the irrelivant stuff like the tourist pages and the maori translation.

I've got a Navman GPS for the car but I want to sell it and get the new smaller one for touring.

dawnrazor
21st December 2005, 14:11
Okay, felt a bit bad about my initial lambasting of this product without a proper look at it, particularly since so many of you had positive feedback. So took myself off to paperplus and had a good old flix through. So okay its pretty detailed and a better option then the regular wises type maps, but one question did occur to me "why aren't all maps like this?", I mean it makes the wises versions look like a communist censored document.

I might even pick one up when PP have a sale in the new year.

Still reckon it could be more robust :confused:

heavenly.talker
22nd December 2005, 15:38
Always really impressed by the Paper Plus stores. Great range of goods and the people are friendly and helpful :-0

gromit
19th January 2006, 09:09
Got both Peter Mitchells and the Motorcycling Atlas and rate them both :-)


Could someone who has both of these give me the ISBN numbers of each? So PP is the place to go? Whitcoulls werent much help at all when I enquired.

Holy Roller
19th January 2006, 16:27
Come along to our Mountain to the Sea Run there is a motorcycle atlas up for grabs in the spot prizes.
ISBN 10: 1-877302-32-5
ISBN 13: 978-1-877302-32-9

We sell them in our shop

Phurrball
19th January 2006, 17:05
(snip) The content is excellent. (apart from the multitude of icons signifying campervan effluent dump sites :scratch: )

Santa brought me one too! I think it's great - especially for a n00b like me. I believe all the campervan effluent dump sites are marked as it was originally adapted from a campervan atlas of NZ. Guess it was more hassle than it was worth to take them out???

zeRax
19th January 2006, 17:32
conincidently i do have this courtesy of that mother of mine, silly women still puts out stockings for us, glad to be moving back outa home soon, love the book thou, spot on mom cheers <3 :)
( the peter mitchell one )

Waylander
19th January 2006, 17:41
Both me and Bugjuice have one and a few others aswell. Loves it we do.Certainly showed me a more interesting way to get from Hamilton to Tauranga without going through the boring flat bits.