Throw me a frikken bone already

[pyrocam]

This pisses me off, this kid goes around biting kids, I mean BITING people, thats pretty nasty shit, with the bruising, and the owchies etc etc. anyway. so he bites this kid and the principal has some balls and disciplines the little shit, and the mother wants to take him to court ffs! a good smack upside the head would have been appropriate.

BRING BACK CORPORAL PUNISHMENT!

[Sniper]

Dammit, what sort of screwed up world is this when someone tries to protect others and they get into shit. Stuff that mum, I hope she has a hard time putting her kids through other schools

[Lou Girardin]

A complaint has been made to the cops now. Who'd be a teacher these days.
That apprentice animal would have had his arse tanned black and blue 30 years ago.

[Firefight]

Now grab some pop corn and wait, won't take too long !

F/F:corn: :wacko:

[SixPackBack]

HAHAHA.......little shit, big ups to the teacher.......smack around the back of the head would also of helped

[ManDownUnder]

tsk tsk tsk...

What is needed is to form a disciplinary committee, ask everyone how they feel and then invite in some of the victims. Have a family Group Conference and make damned sure the Principal learns a lesson they'll NEVER forget.

Maybe plant a tree in celebration, then hold hands around a fire and sing koombaya while dancing in a circle.

I mean - it's obvious isn't it?

edit - the dog bone thing is over the top, but the little critter needs to be immediately accountable for his actions. A problem I see with the current "view" on punishment is that it's not immediate (like a smack or a cane). It' writing out lines, a drawn out experience that is reasonably removed from the crime itself.

[Swoop]

This pisses me off, this kid goes around biting kids, I mean BITING people, thats pretty nasty shit,

Especially nowadays with all the bugs out there, Hepatitis C for example.


It's not the first time this kid has bitten someone either. A dog bone FFS! The kid might have gotten some vitamins and minerals from the bone!

[ManDownUnder]

To be fair I want to know what the press didn't mention...

Possibly stuff like the bone had been boiled for an hour or something... I hope it had.

[DMNTD]

...a good smack upside the head would have been appropriate.
For sure but in saying that I'd get more than a little "assertive" if someone smacked my kids even if he/she/they did something smackable. That is my job and only mine. Have come across too many righteous teachers in the past that thought theirs ways were the only ways.
Good on the principal for punishing the little fark but I believe he chose the wrong punishment. But what the heck can they do these days? They seem to have their hands tied.:brick:
The mother appears to be an idiot too...hence the bitin':argh: Give her the bone...these things aren't learnt in the home.

[Colapop]

The little bugger should be thankful the princpal didn't hit him with the bone!

I wonder if the kid has a father at home? He's obviously not getting the displine he needs from the mother. I smacked my kids when they were young, but nowhere but their butt and with nothing but my hand. I think I smacked them about 3 times each maybe. The problem with corporal punishment was the inconsistent force used.

Sh*t when I was at school if I got the strap or the cane and the old man found out (they'd ring him - bastards) I'd get a hiding at home for it too. Our Maori studies teacher at college was the best - he had a sawn off bamboo golf club with the handle still attached, for good grip. Man, he could swing that axe!

[spudchucka]

Who'd be a teacher these days.
I'm married to one and I know that I wouldn't last half a day in her job.

[ManDownUnder]

I'm married to one and I know that I wouldn't last half a day in her job.

you and me both - but at least the pay is ok...

[*sic]

bring back the swift beatings with a cane...

fuck id be a teacher if they let me do that, glad i didnt get it in school thou (much)

[Lou Girardin]

edit - the dog bone thing is over the top,

Yeah, call the SPCA about the hungry dog.

[tracyprier]

I'm married to one and I know that I wouldn't last half a day in her job.

Yeah well for a start you're not allowed a PR24 so I'm buggered if I know how they cope :bash: (my better half works at a Kindy)

[Lou Girardin]

When I first saw this story, I thought it was another paedophile at work.

[Colapop]

When I first saw this story, I thought it was another paedophile at work.
No, he uses tennis balls not dog bones...

[scumdog]

The topic came up at a social event, a heap of the mums and dads admitted they had bitten their little angels back to cure them of biting, they all said it worked, - although one said she was mortified the next day when they went to the supermarket and could see the bite-marks she had inflicted on her darlings arm where all could see them
(Mental note - only bite where it can't be seen).:shifty:

[kro]

My brothers partner has a sister with 2 devil children, one of which used to bite my brothers daughter whenever she felt like it, and this went on for 18 months till one day the brat bit so hard, she drew blood (5 yrs old btw), so my brother, seeing that the softcock parents would do nothing about it, grabbed the child and returned with a bite of his own.

Brat child has never bitten anyone to this day.

Fuck the bullshit Politically correct, no smacking brigade, with their "super nanny" way of pussy footing around the obvious. A short sharp clip round the ear works better than any form of diversion/ coercion crap. I'm not against dialogue with children, as it is a very very powerful tool as well, but words need accompanying actions to give them weight imo.

[**R1**]

(Mental note - only bite where it can't be seen).:shifty:You dirty old man:kick:

[froggyfrenchman]

This pisses me off, this kid goes around biting kids, I mean BITING people, thats pretty nasty shit, with the bruising, and the owchies etc etc. anyway. so he bites this kid and the principal has some balls and disciplines the little shit, and the mother wants to take him to court ffs! a good smack upside the head would have been appropriate.

BRING BACK CORPORAL PUNISHMENT!

Good call pyro!

[APPLE]

yeh man ,kick his ass?:shake:

[myvice]

tsk tsk tsk...

edit - the dog bone thing is over the top, but the little critter needs to be immediately accountable for his actions. A problem I see with the current "view" on punishment is that it's not immediate (like a smack or a cane). It' writing out lines, a drawn out experience that is reasonably removed from the crime itself.
Not allowed to make em write out lines anymore as it can make writing look like a punishment and be detrimental to the education of the child.
My son (14) recommends pegs on the eyelids for minor infringements and a shock collar for others!
I don’t know where he gets these violent tendencies, probably some kid at his school, that damn kid needs to be walled up for a month or two to teach him about empathy for others!

[gamgee]

Did anyone read about that idiot woman, she was a doctor and a mother, which for some reason makes her a total bitch staight off, is taking one of our state schools up on human rights violation over the reading of the lords prayer, mediation failed, and even tho 93% of parents were happy for the prayer to continue to be read at the beginning of the schools weekly assembly, (which was more about a 30 y.o. tradition than religion) and the bitches kids have left the school, she is still going on a lone crusade to stop the school reading the prayer, this PC bullshit has gone to far, most normal people are sick of it, it's just all these "mothers against..." idiots with a superiority complex that are fucking this world up for the rest of us, what next? mothers against motorbikes? anyone for some burnouts on there front lawns? haha, this reminds me of a teacher i had a school, he had a strap from back in the day, which he had had framed in a fire extinguisher style case, which had printed accross the front "in case of emergency break glass" haha he was a good cunt, he was the only teacher i ever had who actually openly swore in front of us, so many good memories of that guy!

[BuFfY]

In a year I will be a teacher, and I could not hit a child in my class no matter what they did. I believe that punnishment needs to be constructive and if a child is hit for hitting then they will continue to think that it is ok... they will see someone doing something wrong in the play ground and hit them to make them stop, believe me I have seen it and this is the response I got!
Corporal Punnishment was removed for a reason, and even if it was still in place I would refuse to do it. I was never smacked as a child so I can see that there are other ways to change a childs behaviour. In my two years at uni we have had a lot of discussions regarding this topic!! But making a child put a bone in their mouth infront of the class is not something a Principal should make a child do. :no:

[scumdog]

Should have shut the little shit in a cupboard, left the door open and had a big nasty biting type dog at the door - and told the turd to bite his way out of THAT one..:yes:

[Lou Girardin]

In a year I will be a teacher, and I could not hit a child in my class no matter what they did. I believe that punnishment needs to be constructive and if a child is hit for hitting then they will continue to think that it is ok... they will see someone doing something wrong in the play ground and hit them to make them stop, believe me I have seen it and this is the response I got!
Corporal Punnishment was removed for a reason, and even if it was still in place I would refuse to do it. I was never smacked as a child so I can see that there are other ways to change a childs behaviour. In my two years at uni we have had a lot of discussions regarding this topic!! But making a child put a bone in their mouth infront of the class is not something a Principal should make a child do. :no:

This maybe your opinion and you're entitled to it, but it is exactly the bullshit that is encouraging these repulsive little brats. When we got the cane, it never told us we could hit other people. Just the opposite.
While your pissng around with one of these kids, trying to nicely modify his behaviour, what's happening to all the other kids that want to learn?

[KLOWN]

For sure but in saying that I'd get more than a little "assertive" if someone smacked my kids even if he/she/they did something smackable. That is my job and only mine. Have come across too many righteous teachers in the past that thought theirs ways were the only ways.
Good on the principal for punishing the little fark but I believe he chose the wrong punishment. But what the heck can they do these days? They seem to have their hands tied.:brick:
The mother appears to be an idiot too...hence the bitin':argh: Give her the bone...these things aren't learnt in the home.

The problem with that view is that it means your kid can get away with anything he likes if your not there, if only u are allowed to punish him. It's why all these little gangsters are around, thier parents won't punish them and other people can't cause thier parents will try to bash them. If your kids are doin somthing wrong they need to be punished by the closest possible person. Not in an inappropriate way though.

[BuFfY]

This maybe your opinion and you're entitled to it, but it is exactly the bullshit that is encouraging these repulsive little brats. When we got the cane, it never told us we could hit other people. Just the opposite.
While your pissng around with one of these kids, trying to nicely modify his behaviour, what's happening to all the other kids that want to learn?

A good teacher is one who can control a whole classroom without having to be in the room, it's all about respect. If the class knows that when you are out of the room or are busy that they are expected to be still working or they will be kept in after class to finish their work, then they will continue doing their work. Consequences need to be put in place and carried out whenever needed, but I believe that they should be constructive, not destructive... but yeah that is just my opinion! And I know that a lot of people on the outside will disagree with me about this, but they are not the ones who would actually be the ones caining someone elses child

[Lou Girardin]

A good teacher is one who can control a whole classroom without having to be in the room, it's all about respect. If the class knows that when you are out of the room or are busy that they are expected to be still working or they will be kept in after class to finish their work, then they will continue doing their work. Consequences need to be put in place and carried out whenever needed, but I believe that they should be constructive, not destructive... but yeah that is just my opinion! And I know that a lot of people on the outside will disagree with me about this, but they are not the ones who would actually be the ones caining someone elses child

The reality is going to come as a horrible shock, I think.
Unless you get a nice safe decile 1 school, but then you'll have a whole different set of issues to think about. Like parents suing you if you speak harshly to their little sweetheart.

[Colapop]

A good teacher is one who can control a whole classroom without having to be in the room, it's all about respect. If the class knows that when you are out of the room or are busy that they are expected to be still working or they will be kept in after class to finish their work, then they will continue doing their work. Consequences need to be put in place and carried out whenever needed, but I believe that they should be constructive, not destructive... but yeah that is just my opinion! And I know that a lot of people on the outside will disagree with me about this, but they are not the ones who would actually be the ones caining someone elses child
While there is validity in your assertion that a good teacher can control a classroom without being there, the statistics regarding new teachers' longevity in the proffesion would suggest that there are very few teachers who are taught to do this throughout their course of study. Good teachers gain the respect of their charges by being able to discipline a class as well as reward and this knowledge is gained over a relatively long period of time. To be learned in the art of teaching is not just what is taught in a class - that is only about 10% of the actual. The reality of teaching these days is that the children are not given appropriate boundaries in the home before they are sent to school. Consequently the notion that a teacher can control their behaviour or gain their respect is becoming more of a flight of fancy than that of reality. Teachers with their current and increasing workloads do not have the time that they once had to put into difficult kids.
I smacked my kids when they were younger, at the time of the discretion. Short, sharp and with meaning. I have never hit my kids out of anger or frustration nor have I ever given them I hiding such as I had growing up. In saying that, my kids have boundaries and I very rarely have to even speak to them harshly. I am not the best parent in the world and nor do I claim to be, but I do care for my kids and have a vested interest in their futures.

(How am I going retire and sponge off them if they're not succesful weel adjusted adults?:yeah: )

[BuFfY]

The reality is going to come as a horrible shock, I think.
Unless you get a nice safe decile 1 school, but then you'll have a whole different set of issues to think about. Like parents suing you if you speak harshly to their little sweetheart.
Decile 1 is the lowest... so that would be the children in a low economic area. Whereas a decile 10 is all the rich kids, but I guess if they are real snobby they may do as you suggested but I hope not to work in a school like that.
During my first semister at uni we went into a school for 2 weeks, in the 2nd semister we went out for a month, in our second year we spent 1 month in the first semister and then 6 weeks in the 2nd. In our final year we spend 9 weeks in a school. We are required to teach in each of the decile groups and in each of the age groups before we leave university so that we are as experienced as possible. But it is like any job, no amount of training will ever be enough, but I am confident in my skills and I believe that I am going to be an amazing teacher, because I have the passion to do so!

[spudchucka]

I am confident in my skills and I believe that I am going to be an amazing teacher, because I have the passion to do so!
I agree somewhat with Lou, (that has got to stop) in so much as I think you will have to adjust your thinking a litle once you hit the coal face.

However, you can't beat self belief, determination and passion in a teacher. So don't let the bastards grind you down, keep your belief and your passion and you might make a difference in some kids otherwise rotten lives.