Another two bite the dust...

[placidfemme]

Well on Sunday Sam and I joined the not so learners, learners ride, that was cancelled. There was only 6 KB'ers on the ride... and two bins...

Firstly thanks to TIE for helping out and taking pic's (which will be on here soonish I think..)

Sam can off the mighty cursed FXR on State Highway 16, misjudged a semi-blind corner, braked and ran wide... causing her to run off the road, and crash into a fence... Thanks again to TIE for checking her out and making sure all her bits were in one piece despite her "take my helmet off" complaints... and thanks to the other bikers on a separate ride for stopping and helping us to get her bike up and back on the road and for getting it started again...

The FXR is munted in the sense that the front, left and right farings are all screwed, both mirrors are gone, the handlebars are bent, the throttle kept getting stuck and eventually partially falling off :confused:

After some discussion the FXR was ridden at a slow pace the rest of the way up to Warkworth and left at TIE's sisters place (thanks again).

Sam decided to continue on the ride as a pillion on TIE's bike... we continued up to Leigh and around that area, then decided to head back to Auckland down State Highway 16 again...

On SH16 I binned on a twistie section, wasn't speeding (think I took the corner at about 40kph) saw a wet patch, hit the wet patch, my back wheel spun out on me, managed to keep it upright through the wet, and then hit an uneven patch on the road (looked like little potholes) and lost it completely from there, brought the bike upright and braked as hard as possible until I felt the bike hit the curb, saw the rock on the side of the road... lifted my left leg up and closed my eyes (lol I know... chicken shit little me). Heard the smash as the bike made contact and next thing I was laying on my back on the road.

I think my shoulder made full impact with the rock, resulting in a pulled/torn muscle in my shoulder (according to the A&E Dr).

My ZXR is munted. Aff-Man seems to think it may be a write off :weep:

The sub frame is broken, front faring, windscreen, gear lever, left faring, clutch lever, the speedo and all the other dash parts are smashed (still work sort of but smashed)... and a bunch of other things... the managed to get the ZXR started but it was stuck in gear... at least I didn't drop it on the pipe side lol

Thanks again to TIE for making sure I was ok, and to the two guys in the ute that pulled over and gave me and the bike a lift to Dairy Flat, and to Alf Gracie Motors for letting me leave the bike there while I organise a way to get the bikes back to Auckland...

Other than the two bins it was a great ride, perfect weather and good roads, Aff-man was teaching me to get my knee down (lol now I can say I got my knee down... but I don't suppose it counts if the whole bike goes down too :Oops:

My Spyke leathers turned out to be a great buy, where my should impacted with the rock the leathers are scuffed but a lot less than I assume the Kevlar R-Jays gear would have been... the Alpinestar boots are scuffed too, only suffered a sore ankle, but thats better than a broken one!

So yeah, now it's a wait and see what the insurance company has to say about it...

Sam and I are both at home sulking about our bins and nursing bruised and swollen bodies... and not to mention VERY dented ego's :(

I'll post the pictures as soon as I can...

placid & Sam

[bugjuice]

that's really bad luck! Sorry to hear that..
Hope things get sorted for you quick, but binning around xmas time isn't the best time to do it.. Hope you can rest up for a while!

[placidfemme]

thanks..yeah it sucks... so my holiday pay is going on mu excess and I've only got 10 days off as it is... and right now too tender to do much... it really blows

[WINJA]

everything is cool , no ones dead , did i tell you the story about a friend of mine who crashed . the bike was mint ,he died . these sort of events make good storys later in life .
like jelly wrestling

[Sniper]

Sorry to hear PF. I hope you guys heal up soon

[Swoop]

Glad to hear everyone walked away relatively unscathed! Recover soon and get 2 wheels under you again!

[Kornholio]

Aff-man was teaching me to get my knee down (lol now I can say I got my knee down... but I don't suppose it counts if the whole bike goes down too :Oops:

placid & Sam

Thats cool.... Frankie Chili said the first time he got his knee down he was crashing lol ...
Oh well back on the ol horse :spudbooge

[DMNTD]

Big sorry to the two of you on ya bins and big onya's to T.I.E & others for their help.
At least the both of you are ok & here's hoping Santa can manage a couple of bikes down the chimney:spudbn:

[placidfemme]

Thanks all :)

Sam has decided that her next bike will be a cruiser of some sort... (not a hell of a lot of options as far as 250's go) and I'll be sticking to the sports bikes... the family are all pissed that we still want to ride... but oh well...

[Keystone19]

Ahh, sorry to hear this PF and Sam. Hope you guys mend up well and can get back on the bikes soon.

[WINJA]

thanks all :)

sam has decided that her next bike will be a cruiser of some sort... (not a hell of a lot of options as far as 250's go) and i'll be sticking to the sports bikes... the family are all pissed that we still want to ride... but oh well...


why dont you both get road regestired trail bikes , hit the trails learn some skills , they crash good as well

[placidfemme]

Sam's too short for a trail bike... I don't think it would be worth her getting one under 150cc and the 150cc ones are too high for her to reach the ground...

[Badcat]

Well on Sunday Sam and I joined the not so learners, learners ride, that was cancelled. There was only 6 KB'ers on the ride... and two bins...

My Spyke leathers turned out to be a great buy, where my should impacted with the rock the leathers are scuffed but a lot less than I assume the Kevlar R-Jays gear would have been... the Alpinestar boots are scuffed too, only suffered a sore ankle, but thats better than a broken one!


Thank (insert your higher power here) that you both are only bruised.
good on you for getting desent gear.
glad you're still with us!

Ken

[WINJA]

sam's too short for a trail bike... i don't think it would be worth her getting one under 150cc and the 150cc ones are too high for her to reach the ground...
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my aunty got a trailie lowered , it worked well cause she was so small she didnt need the full suspension travel anyway, trailies really do improve your skills.
spose you could both become hetro , get some boyfriends , and get doubled everywhere. remember this homosexualality is just a phase your going thru , you just need to meet a good man each , my brother lives near you

[crashe]

Thanks all :)

Sam has decided that her next bike will be a cruiser of some sort... (not a hell of a lot of options as far as 250's go) and I'll be sticking to the sports bikes... the family are all pissed that we still want to ride... but oh well...

The VIRAGO 250cc cruiser is a great bike....:2thumbsup :banana:

I highly recommend them...


Oh and she will be able to reach the ground on it no sweat....:rofl:




I bet the guys/gals have been clocking me to see how long it took for me to post this as well.....:wavey:

[placidfemme]

lol strange... thats just what my gran keeps telling me... I'll mention the trail bike idea to Sam again and see what she thinks... my internet cafe time is running out so I'll try to come back online soon...

[WINJA]

lol strange... thats just what my gran keeps telling me... i'll mention the trail bike idea to sam again and see what she thinks... my internet cafe time is running out so i'll try to come back online soon...
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ok if i split with my misses your first on my list

[phoenixgtr]

Sorry to hear about the crashes. It sucks. It just feels so bad to look at your bike afterwards :(

If Sam wants to sell parts of her FXR I might be interested

[Lou Girardin]

Togetherness is a truly wonderful thing. Partners who bin together, stay together.:hug:

[chickenfunkstar]

Sorry to hear about this guys. What are the chances of you both going down in such a short time period?

As WINJA says though, its heaps better than the bikes are f**ked are you guys are relativley sweet than the other way around

[Colapop]

It's good you gals aren't too badly banged up - sorry for your bikes tho'.
This place continues to impress - KB comes through again with good people and good community, Good on ya TIE and others.

[Zed]

You both have my sympathies Placid. Terrible way to end the year, but at least you aren't lying in some hospital bed on life-support!!

Hope you get well soon and can get those machines sorted out somehow too. :niceone:

[Biff]

What an absolute bugger. Glad to hear that you're both ok though.
But both of you in one day? You just felt left out didn't you!!??

[HDTboy]

Wanna buy a CBR?

[juzzer]

Glad you guys are ok.

As an aside 2 bins with 6 riders... thats 33% crash rate. Got to be a KB record?

Shit did they teach you math's to get into the ambo service...
All the best chick's, glad to hear yr all relativly ok.

[*sic]

not good to hear, hope for the best for a new bike / repair. and get up and back riding soon too!

[hXc]

Sorry to hear about your bins and right on Christmas too!!! Hope ya recover soon and get back on two wheels again.

[badblackbuell]

7 bikes over 3 Sundays... Has anybody learned anything?

In the years I have been riding I have never come across anything like this.:argh:

[duckman]

7 bikes over 3 Sundays... Has anybody learned anything?

In the years I have been riding I have never come across anything like this.:argh:

Thanks - We try REALLY hard here. :nya:

[badblackbuell]

I'll say mate I've seen it first hand...

[SixPackBack]

Bugger Placid!......happy to hear your both OK.

[ManDownUnder]

Yeah - time to head off to BK for a consoling lunch and peek...

[Skyryder]

7 bikes over 3 Sundays... Has anybody learned anything?

In the years I have been riding I have never come across anything like this.:argh:

They all want to be the leader. Problem is there can only be one. Hence the bins.


Skyryder

[aff-man]

Bloody muppets.... the both of them...


They decide to show me a road I've never been on. It was awesome. Got to the end. waited 20 odd mins then had to go back about halfway to see them just get sam back on the bike and plodding along all seems sweet so off i go again.get to the end and have a friendly chat with some BMW riders (yes i know I can hear the gasps from here)

Then on the way back seeing as I have done the road 1.5 times now i decide while keeping honest to turn up the pace a bit..... Caught up to a guy on a trumpie 955i and had soem fun getting passed him. Got to the end see the trumpie coming through... thn a car ... then another car i know i didn't pass....... then nothing for another 10 minutes..... oh shit. So i go back this time having to go about 3/4 along the road to find a ute with placid's bike on it and 3 other bikes following at an extremely sedate pace....

Now .. ladies while i appreciate your thoughtfullness i really didn't need to do that road 4 times..

Hope you get everything sorted and as i said if you need any help just give me a yell.....



p.s. Sam if you get a cruiser i will slap you (no offence crash/anyone who might take it.)

[scumdog]

Shit shit shit!!
What a hell of a ride, glad y'all aren't hurt but bloody hell, talk about Disaster City!!:crazy:

[T.I.E]

oh and i feel stink.
caught up with the girls today to pass some pictures and they are smiles and looking good, a few sore limbs etc, but well.
oh i still feel like shit

[Scorpygirl]

Hi Sam and PF - very sorry to hear about your bins and you bikes. :crybaby:

I hope you heal up quickly. :doctor:

Take care both of you.

[zadok]

Bummer! Glad you're both ok. :hug: :hug:

[Macktheknife]

Glad to hear you're both OK. Remember, you're ok; bike insured NO PROBLEMS! everything else is not important.
Be well soon.

[Leong]

They decide to show me a road I've never been on. It was awesome.....(snip)..
Now .. ladies while i appreciate your thoughtfullness i really didn't need to do that road 4 times..


Hell no, but you would have done it again if the rest of us were as keen as you after the girls got picked up. :2thumbsup

Glad to hear you ladies are OK. Hope you're making good use of our ACC levies. Any news from your insurance co about your bike PF?

Leong

[Brett]

Crap that is pretty damn bad luck. Try and slow it down out there KB'rs. Or we all gonna die.
I hope that the insurance put out decently for a new bike!

[raster]

Sorry to hear chicks, hope you get sorted out a little quicker than last time.

Take care out there guy's.

[Sniper]

7 bikes over 3 Sundays... Has anybody learned anything?

In the years I have been riding I have never come across anything like this.:argh:

Sensitive bugger aren't ya?

[APPLE]

speedy recovery man?dont give up sportbikes sam,come on?yu'll get it sussed man?jus takes a little more practice???LIVE LONG AND PROSPER...

[aff-man]

Hell no, but you would have done it again if the rest of us were as keen as you after the girls got picked up. :2thumbsup

Glad to hear you ladies are OK. Hope you're making good use of our ACC levies. Any news from your insurance co about your bike PF?

Leong

whats that supposed to mean... I took it relativley easy after PF's minor misunderstanding with the road....:yes:

[Krayy]

Now was that 1:1000 or 1:10,000 Morphine Sulphate?? One is good..one is not.
Don't you mean that one is Gooooooooooooooooood :2thumbsup

[Quasievil]

next thing I was laying on my back on the road.

Laying on your QUASiMOTO back protector I hope ?:stoogie:

sorry your hurt mate, if ya need anything give me a hola !!

[placidfemme]

.

Laying on your QUASiMOTO back protector I hope ?:stoogie:

sorry your hurt mate, if ya need anything give me a hola !!

Yep... I was wearing my QUASiMOTO back protector :)

Thanks everyone... Sam is still keen on a cruiser type bike... but we'll see... either a crusier or a zxr...

still waiting to hear back from the bike shop about the appraisal, should know by the end of the week-ish, then we have to wait for the insurance to sort out thier end...

[Sniper]

Good luck.....

[myvice]

Get a Bandit... if I cant kill one, no one can!
(Crash well too)

[750Y]

..Heard the smash as the bike made contact...
well put. 8-)

[Mrs Busa Pete]

glad to hear you are all well now you can join can,pete and myself in feeling sorry for our battered and bruised bodys not to mention bikes get well soon:grouphug:

[bondagebunny]

is fucking appalling - Im constantly amazed at how many people who contribute to this site cant ride for shit.
Being vocal about how you fell off is nothing to be proud off.
Crap riding is the cause - get some help

[Motu]

Hey ya Bunny,long time no see - sorry,but the tone of the site has changed since you were last here.We no longer tell them off for crashing...but we complement them for wearing the correct gear....get with it eh?

[Badcat]

is fucking appalling - Im constantly amazed at how many people who contribute to this site cant ride for shit.
Being vocal about how you fell off is nothing to be proud off.
Crap riding is the cause - get some help

didn't you used be be a regular here in the '80s or something?
thanks for your valuable input.

[bondagebunny]

come on here and say how you fell off - what caused it etc - how come you are to fucking dumb to NOT stay out of trouble in the first place

Can you imagine any other group of people who set out to go some where ie:
the MG car club or the trike club or the pushbike club who set out with 6 vehicles of what ever type and had only 2 thirds of them arrive;
thats fucking appalling and if you werent so politically correct you would agree with me

shit riding is shit riding - put the blame where it belongs - the rider

if you are so fucking bad sell your bike before you die.

You can wear fucking armour all you like but you are going to die sooner rather than later.

[myvice]

Such a happy helpful lass, so glad that they let you back out, it was almost becoming pleasant without you here.
Let the in fighting and backstabbing continue!

[ManDownUnder]

is fucking appalling - Im constantly amazed at how many people who contribute to this site cant ride for shit.
Being vocal about how you fell off is nothing to be proud off.
Crap riding is the cause - get some help

No so diplomatically put - but I can't fault the message.

Welcome back BB

[bondagebunny]

and similar threads carry heaps of RIP noticies,

Maybe thats the ultimate recognition here, if you keep crashing enough you will get your own, I have already worked out who I think will be next.

You guys gotta get your shit together just because you can buy a fast bike does not mean you can handle them. Learner licences are just that - and cutting corners and riding on wrong side of road will teach you the ultimate lesson -

young guys in particular think they are bullet proof - but a check of this site will show you otherwise,

[T.I.E]

i took them for a ride, an unoffical learners ride.
it was lack of experience that caused the accident. it is unfortunate that they both came off on the same ride at differnt times and places.
i don't seem to understand what your trying to get at. that they crashed? or that they posted they crashed?

[onearmedbandit]

I do agree that sometimes the number of crashes that happen on KB rides is out of the ordinary. Why? I don't know, and unless you were there BB you don't either. You make a good point that the number of crashes is far too high. The best outcome is that those that are involved learn something from it. Either they learn how to control themselves (its not the bikes fault, they do go around corners under normal circumstances) properly or they learn that biking is not for them. Because it's not for everyone.

[aff-man]

and similar threads carry heaps of RIP noticies,

Maybe thats the ultimate recognition here, if you keep crashing enough you will get your own, I have already worked out who I think will be next.

You guys gotta get your shit together just because you can buy a fast bike does not mean you can handle them. Learner licences are just that - and cutting corners and riding on wrong side of road will teach you the ultimate lesson -

young guys in particular think they are bullet proof - but a check of this site will show you otherwise,

A fast bike... please... sam was riding an fxr150..... and placid wasn't going particularly fast either. Road conditions and lack of experience contributed to these incidents NOT bad riding.

Shit happens people die it's not nice to hear but it's life. Don't lump everyone into the same steriotype of young male and bulletproof if they crash.:argh:

[Motu]

I'm glad there were no internet forums when I was younger - because I was soooo much more stupid,my bikes were sooo much inferior.....but my speed was soooo much slower,the traffic sooo much less.I had so much more time and depth of experiance to learn in,these days they jump in the deep and and sink or swim.

[T.I.E]

I'm glad there were no internet forums when I was younger - because I was soooo much more stupid,my bikes were sooo much inferior.....but my speed was soooo much slower,the traffic sooo much less.I had so much more time and depth of experiance to learn in,these days they jump in the deep and and sink or swim.

totally agree, couldn't think of anything worse today. i was lucky grew up in the country, farm bikes then road bikes all sorts of sizes, the slowly moved into the city. i was really lucky.

[Pixie]

It all comes back to the nut that holds onto the handlebars.

I'm beginning to wonder if it's a case of riding with others who are too far beyond ones skill level and being led into situations without seeing one is exceeding ones limits

When I was younger every time a newbie rode with us it was a fair bet they would crash.

[bondagebunny]

It all comes back to the nut that holds onto the handlebars.

I'm beginning to wonder if it's a case of riding with others who are too far beyond ones skill level and being led into situations without seeing one is exceeding ones limits

When I was younger every time a newbie rode with us it was a fair bet they would crash.


then the rider who is leading is not considering the newbie, the newbie should be directly behind ride leader and leader should raide at speed to suit the newbie - some one else should bring up the rear with out pushing the speed up

Rider as fast as the newbie is comfortable.

[bondagebunny]

A fast bike... please... sam was riding an fxr150..... and placid wasn't going particularly fast either. Road conditions and lack of experience contributed to these incidents NOT bad riding.

Shit happens people die it's not nice to hear but it's life. Don't lump everyone into the same steriotype of young male and bulletproof if they crash.:argh:


on out side of corner then they were going to fast for their ability - was leader setting to fast a pace maybe, dont blame the road conditions the other 4 got around. thats bullshit - blame goes to riders and ride leader

[bondagebunny]

i took them for a ride, an unoffical learners ride.
it was lack of experience that caused the accident. it is unfortunate that they both came off on the same ride at differnt times and places.
i don't seem to understand what your trying to get at. that they crashed? or that they posted they crashed?

and think it is ok - that they posted they crashed as some sort of badge of honour - in my day we shut up about fuckups like that we we not pround of them and theat one rider proceeded to expound how he crashed - my question was if you koinw why it happened how dumb do you have to be to NOT stop it happening in the first place

[Kornholio]

come on here and say how you fell off - what caused it etc - how come you are to fucking dumb to NOT stay out of trouble in the first place

Can you imagine any other group of people who set out to go some where ie:
the MG car club or the trike club or the pushbike club who set out with 6 vehicles of what ever type and had only 2 thirds of them arrive;
thats fucking appalling and if you werent so politically correct you would agree with me

shit riding is shit riding - put the blame where it belongs - the rider

if you are so fucking bad sell your bike before you die.

You can wear fucking armour all you like but you are going to die sooner rather than later.

Lol you should be talking to Dover....

[Kornholio]

totally agree, couldn't think of anything worse today. i was lucky grew up in the country, farm bikes then road bikes all sorts of sizes, the slowly moved into the city. i was really lucky.

Dude you're making us sound old :P

Ha I had the same upbringing tho.... that cow shit you slide out on the 90 degree bend you take on the farm bike at 60kph perfectly replicates a 190kph slide on a wet shiny patch on a sportbike....mind you sometimes you end up in that shit LMAO :drinknsin

[placidfemme]

and think it is ok - that they posted they crashed as some sort of badge of honour - in my day we shut up about fuckups like that we we not pround of them and theat one rider proceeded to expound how he crashed - my question was if you koinw why it happened how dumb do you have to be to NOT stop it happening in the first place

*wants my badge*

[SuperDave]

That corner that Placid came down on was a real shit one and I can say that it definately required the skill that comes with experience. I know for one that I had a relatively tough time on that corner and I'm sure the other three riders did too.

Yeah crashing is not good but it's something that comes with riding a bike - I've binned twice since I started riding about 16 months ago and both those times were my own fault. I honestly believe that I learnt a lot from those two crashes and in a way glad that they occured, fortunately I was not badly injured.

Hope everything works out soon and sweet with the insurances to sort out the two bikes.

[Leong]

I'm glad there were no internet forums when I was younger - because I was soooo much more stupid,my bikes were sooo much inferior.....but my speed was soooo much slower,the traffic sooo much less.I had so much more time and depth of experiance to learn in,these days they jump in the deep and and sink or swim.

I reckon Internet forums are great. Members get to share the experiences of a much larger group than they would otherwise have contact with and hopefully, learn from them rather than make the same mistakes themselves.

These recent posts about crashes and fatalities continue to remind me of how dangerous motorcycling can be, and that it doesn't only happen to the inexperienced. It's very easy to forget just how quickly things can turn to custard on a bike when you're having fun carving up the twisties. All you need is an SUV coming the other way at precisely the wrong moment and you're history - literally. Would we get this kind of reminder if people didn't post about their bins? I'm willing to bet that the overconfident young ones are more likely to read an internet post than the newspaper!

I don't see posting about your bins as a badge of honour - it's just sharing your latest (and relatively significant) motorcycling experience. I was following Tammy when she made her little mistake that I am sure she has learned a lot from. As a group we talked about whether it should be posted or not for reasons that have become obvious.

I hope the comments of a minority aren't enough to put others off sharing their experiences in the future.

[aff-man]

on out side of corner then they were going to fast for their ability - was leader setting to fast a pace maybe, dont blame the road conditions the other 4 got around. thats bullshit - blame goes to riders and ride leader

Well then blame me all you want. I wanted to go a bit faster so i took off. They knew they couldn't keep up and so didn't try. going wide does not necessarily mean fast. If you would have been there you would have some idea. If yuo are going the right speed or even slower for the corner and it tightens and you freak then that's where the problem is.

As for the other four getting thorugh as dave said i remember that corner and it was pretty shit but experience helped the rest of us through. Don't blame the ride leader. this was an unofficial ride. If noob's wanna come they have to realise that there will be people going faster and slower. On the ride I spent some time following both Sam and Placid. And i can say that although thier technique needed a little work they were riding well within thier limits.


As the saying goes if you assume you make an ass out of u amd me. In this case just you.



P.S. ... *gives placid and sam thier badges*

[T.I.E]

*special badges to the ladies*

thanks aff and everyone was setting their own pace as was sam, i thought it was excellent of the slower ones not trying to catch up.
but ya had to be there to understand the road.

[bondagebunny]

Well then blame me all you want. I wanted to go a bit faster so i took off. They knew they couldn't keep up and so didn't try. going wide does not necessarily mean fast. If you would have been there you would have some idea. If yuo are going the right speed or even slower for the corner and it tightens and you freak then that's where the problem is.

As for the other four getting thorugh as dave said i remember that corner and it was pretty shit but experience helped the rest of us through. Don't blame the ride leader. this was an unofficial ride. If noob's wanna come they have to realise that there will be people going faster and slower. On the ride I spent some time following both Sam and Placid. And i can say that although thier technique needed a little work they were riding well within thier limits.


As the saying goes if you assume you make an ass out of u amd me. In this case just you.


P.S. ... *gives placid and sam thier badges*
of leearners on an unofficial ride ( your words) and then you took off - because you wanted to go faster -
WHY did you take them ???????

sounds to me like the urge to show off got too much for you and you gave up on the people you chose to take for a ride.
IF this is so you are responsible and I do blame you - you are a wanker - and I would uge others not to go on learner riders with you

[bondagebunny]

*special badges to the ladies*

thanks aff and everyone was setting their own pace as was sam, i thought it was excellent of the slower ones not trying to catch up.
but ya had to be there to understand the road.


people who belive there are killer roads. Sorry there are no such things - just people who get it wrong

[bondagebunny]

That corner that Placid came down on was a real shit one and I can say that it definately required the skill that comes with experience. I know for one that I had a relatively tough time on that corner and I'm sure the other three riders did too.

Yeah crashing is not good but it's something that comes with riding a bike - I've binned twice since I started riding about 16 months ago and both those times were my own fault. I honestly believe that I learnt a lot from those two crashes and in a way glad that they occured, fortunately I was not badly injured.

Hope everything works out soon and sweet with the insurances to sort out the two bikes.


Crashing does not come with riding a bike that is bullshit - but at least you admit to being at fault which is a great thing to own up to .
Unfortuantly my insurance goes up with other peoples crashes as does yours, plus ACC levys etc. I have over 30 years on bikes and have yet to hit the road literally so it can be done. IF you think you will crash you have a good head start and a ready made excuse if you do.
Start thinking positive , read the road ahead, stay with in your limits- they will expand as your experiance does , and dont go riding with others who try to show how good they are.
I repeat my points It is not the roads fault, 2 crashes out of 6 is appalling , no excuses, can ou imagine 300, 000 vehicles a day go over the Harbour bridge - at your thinking 200,000 going home is excuseable - well it is not.
it is bullshit to say otherwise.
beware of so called newbie rides with people who get bored and ride off at speed.

[aff-man]

of leearners on an unofficial ride ( your words) and then you took off - because you wanted to go faster -
WHY did you take them ???????

sounds to me like the urge to show off got too much for you and you gave up on the people you chose to take for a ride.
IF this is so you are responsible and I do blame you - you are a wanker - and I would uge others not to go on learner riders with you

They CHOSE to come along on this ride. I didn't take anybody anywhere. The learners ride was cancelled which was the only reason i went along. I wasn't showing off i was enjoying the ride. As for giving up that in itself is bullshit. We all took turns being tailend charlie while the others ranged ahead.

As for the comment about 2 out of 6 is appalling. Well sure if you look at it that way ...but if there were 8 people and those two crashed or 12 or 15 it doesn't matter how many people came if two crashed they wouldv'e crashed no matter how many people came hell if they had been riding just the 2 of them they might have both crashed anyway.

you are a troll, fuck off if you don't have anything usefull to say.

[aff-man]

people who belive there are killer roads. Sorry there are no such things - just people who get it wrong

ooooo conundrum you say it's the ride leaders fault then you now say it's the people who get it wrong's fault if you gonna make an argument stick to one story.

[T.I.E]

people who belive there are killer roads. Sorry there are no such things - just people who get it wrong

i never said there it was a killer road, so please get your facts together.

[T.I.E]

beware of so called newbie rides with people who get bored and ride off at speed.

don't you read anything or does it just flow through you head and bits accidently stick to what ever is in there?

it was not a learners ride. maybe you want to start reading. and instead of complaining about bikes crashing and your insurance and acc levies going up, why don't you get out there and start helping?

as all i hear is winge winge winge.

[bondagebunny]

don't you read anything or does it just flow through you head and bits accidently stick to what ever is in there?

it was not a learners ride. maybe you want to start reading. and instead of complaining about bikes crashing and your insurance and acc levies going up, why don't you get out there and start helping?

as all i hear is winge winge winge.


It was an unofficial LEARNERS RIDE
I didnt write that he did

[bondagebunny]

don't you read anything or does it just flow through you head and bits accidently stick to what ever is in there?

it was not a learners ride. maybe you want to start reading. and instead of complaining about bikes crashing and your insurance and acc levies going up, why don't you get out there and start helping?

as all i hear is winge winge winge.


im stating a fact -
Get out where? and help/ with what?

I think you guys are getting abusive because Im too close to the bone.

[aff-man]

im stating a fact -
Get out where? and help/ with what?

I think you guys are getting abusive because Im too close to the bone.

No You started by calling me a wanker....

It was going to be a learners ride.... which was then cancelled. So it ended up being just a normal ride with a couple od noob's. The only reason we refer to it as a normal ride is becuse that is what it was origionally going to be BEFORE it got CANCELLED...

Methinks you need to read the thread about the ride first aye....:psst:

[placidfemme]

of leearners on an unofficial ride ( your words) and then you took off - because you wanted to go faster -
WHY did you take them ???????

sounds to me like the urge to show off got too much for you and you gave up on the people you chose to take for a ride.
IF this is so you are responsible and I do blame you - you are a wanker - and I would uge others not to go on learner riders with you

The ride was meant to be a learners ride... that was cancelled, neither Sam or I are on our learners...

*goes back to surfing*

[R6_kid]

bondagebunny - what a fuck.

When people crash its their fault and theirs only. The only reason it would be someone elses fault is if they forced you off the road or into crash.

The 'leader' only shows the route, not the pace - something that is always made clear on rides.

Sometimes people do things wrong, they go to fast, they go outside their skill range, thats life. We are humans, and our brains communicate things to our bodies via chemical and electrical charges, when we are having fun they can get mixed up and you dont see the warnings properly - something that comes from experience which in many cases can be a crash.

The good thing is that *most* people learn from their experiences/mistakes. It's a personal choice and sure you have your opinion, but you seem to be a really negative person. That really sucks, did your prozac prescription run out? :rolleyes:

[myvice]

im stating a fact -
Get out where? and help/ with what?

I think you guys are getting abusive because Im too close to the bone.
Well as you have made it to 30 years of riding without a single crash I'm sure that if you posted a learners ride on here that you would have many takers.
But as you said in an earlier post you wouldn’t admit to any mistakes, so I couldn’t see you being very keen as you might get caught out.
E.g.; "Don’t do this caus I did one day and..."
I think people are getting abusive because while they where trying to help others, shit happened, and now a third party who wasn’t there is throwing it in there faces.
The path to hell is paved with good intentions but we still try and help each other out when we can.
Well, most do...

[terbang]

Mr Weasel has given you the answer here.. (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=22821)

[R6_kid]

i fink i shut it up :banana: