Duty Managers Cert.

[NotaGoth]

Ok just a question..


Say someones training up for their duty managers certificate. Their boss knows that person is not licenced to sell alcohol without a duty manager present.

The boss/duty manager then leaves this particular person on the premises on their own, selling alcohol.

Who gets the blame if caught? The boss/duty manager? The person who is not qualified to sell alcohol? Or both parties?

[froggyfrenchman]

Not too sure, but i sure as hell wouldnt risk it if i was you/them

[NotaGoth]

Not too sure, but i sure as hell wouldnt risk it if i was you/them

Hence I'm asking. Cause the boss/duty manager told this person that if caught they won't get the blame. Who ever runs the place does. But this person would like to make sure.

[T.W.R]

Ok just a question..


Say someones training up for their duty managers certificate. Their boss knows that person is not licenced to sell alcohol without a duty manager present.

The boss/duty manager then leaves this particular person on the premises on their own, selling alcohol.

Who gets the blame if caught? The boss/duty manager? The person who is not qualified to sell alcohol? Or both parties?

ultimate responsibility is that of owner of the business/employer under the ER Act 2000

the person can check all the legislation by checking here: www.ers.dol.govt.nz

[NotaGoth]

I am a duty manager. If your name is on the Bar Managers board, you are responsible. BUT the owner of the premises may get a tempory manager for short term via fax. This person does not need to be a manager normally.
Can only use the same person twice in a year.Its for emergencies.. ie the bar manager goes home sick, the nightclub cant really just close cause of that..puts too much pressure on the bar manager

Ok cause all I know is that you can have someone working on the bar, who isn't qualified with whatever is needed to sell alcohol, so long as a duty manager or qualified person is on the premises at the same time.

So if the duty manager were to go home for a particular reason, or if he/she was to leave this unqualified person in charge of the bar for a few days a week, it would be the duty manager who is in trouble for leaving this person there in the first place? :spudwhat:

[John]

so hows KT tonight?

[NotaGoth]

ultimate responsibility is that of owner of the business/employer under the ER Act 2000

the person can check all the legislation by checking here: www.ers.dol.govt.nz

Okay thankyou for that.

[NotaGoth]

John :hug:

[NotaGoth]

Yes thats right. There must ba a Bar manager on site.. not necassarilybehind the bar. No manager=no sale.. unless they have an exemptiobn as mentioned earlier

Ok. Cheers Glen *HugZ*.

[Skyryder]

Ok just a question..


Say someones training up for their duty managers certificate. Their boss knows that person is not licenced to sell alcohol without a duty manager present.

The boss/duty manager then leaves this particular person on the premises on their own, selling alcohol.

Who gets the blame if caught? The boss/duty manager? The person who is not qualified to sell alcohol? Or both parties?


Others are better qualified than myself on this. I'd be inclined to carry on as normal. Your boss has assured you that 'all is kosher' and you have no reason to assume other wise. But keep a record of what he told you including date and time.

Secondly I'd give the Labour Dept a ring and check out if what you were told is correct. If correct no problem but if you have been given incorrect information..........and I am in no way suggesting that this has been deliberate, I would write a letter to the Labour Dept asking for the legal clarification on this issue so that if your boss tries this again you can produce the letter and refuse. Or better still show a copy of this letter to your boss so that he knows the law in this matter.

Skyryder

Skyryder