Speeds to be lowered in Welly suburbs

[riffer]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,2841034a11,00.html

Ouch. Guess they will have to enforce this pretty heavy until we "get the message". Definitely roads to avoid.

[jimbo600]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,2841034a11,00.html

Ouch. Guess they will have to enforce this pretty heavy until we "get the message". Definitely roads to avoid.

Bloody typical. There should be separate speed limits for bikes and cars. Bikes should be allowed to go much faster than cars in towns and on the open road. They can stop quicker than cars, and on account of their reduced size avoid large dumb mammals ie humans crossing the road. This approach would promote bike sales and therefore would reduce the congestion problem, and further down the track save the world.

What a bunch of greenies we are.

[merv]

Yep probably a few boy racers have zoomed down those roads at 80 or 90 with blowpipes playing their tune and a couple of oldies actually turned up at some Council consultation meeting saying the speed limit is too high - gotta lower to to 40. Absolute crap really always using rules to try and impose limits on the out of control but mainly to the detriment of the 99% of people that are reasonable in their behaviour.

[Ms Piggy]

Bloody hell!! :argh: I've noticed riding around the bays from Evans Bay through to Lyall Bay there are "Go slow zones", they don't have a speed limit up but I'm sure they'll be the next place to be slapped with this 40km/hr shite. Buggery bollocks I say!

[Motoracer]

They aren't being practical. Who gives a toss about the limit. If you really must stop the speeders, put huge speed bumps on residential areas. Works like a charm, unforunately for some...

[White trash]

Bloody hell!! :argh: I've noticed riding around the bays from Evans Bay through to Lyall Bay there are "Go slow zones", they don't have a speed limit up but I'm sure they'll be the next place to be slapped with this 40km/hr shite. Buggery bollocks I say!

"Buggery bollocks"! Well done :not:

[White trash]

They aren't being practical. Who gives a toss about the limit. If you really must stop the speeders, put huge speed bumps on residential areas. Works like a charm, unforunately for some...

Actually, they SHOULD put big fucken speed bumps around the place.

Then I'll get me a KTM 625 Supercomp Motard. You wanna see speed in a "slow zone" then!

[Lou Girardin]

If drivers are travelling too fast for the conditions, will a lower speed limit make a difference? It sounds like the 80km/h limit on the South M/way that was supposed to make traffic flow better.
Maybe it's just my cynical nature, but how predictable to combine the 40 limit with new cameras.
Lou

[MD]

If you've ever been through Tawa you'll see the funny side of this. The average age of drivers is about 87 yrs (no I'm not there yet) and the average speed is under 40 kph. Your biggest risk driving across Tawa is dying of old age before you get to the other side. Maybe the Press got the story the wrong way around. Maybe they are going to have cameras to catch people going under 40kph? Must write to the DomPost on this hilarious idea.

[Two Smoker]

Bloody typical. There should be separate speed limits for bikes and cars. Bikes should be allowed to go much faster than cars in towns and on the open road. They can stop quicker than cars, and on account of their reduced size avoid large dumb mammals ie humans crossing the road. This approach would promote bike sales and therefore would reduce the congestion problem, and further down the track save the world.

What a bunch of greenies we are.
Actually Bikes don't have better braking than cars, yes bikes can brakes repeatedly with out brake fade, but the best braking distance ive seen for a bike is only like 36m, but with a car the best is 33m, but other than that good call :niceone:

[Two Smoker]

They aren't being practical. Who gives a toss about the limit. If you really must stop the speeders, put huge speed bumps on residential areas. Works like a charm, unforunately for some...
DOesnt stop me.... ive hit the bumps at 100kmh and no worries with a car (as long as you hit them properly and the taper down at the gutters) but that was in a cage, on a motorbike, well i treat that nicer so i havn't found out......

[Lou Girardin]

Actually Bikes don't have better braking than cars, yes bikes can brakes repeatedly with out brake fade, but the best braking distance ive seen for a bike is only like 36m, but with a car the best is 33m, but other than that good call :niceone:

Does that include reaction time, that's a lot quicker on a bike.
Lou

[Two Smoker]

Does that include reaction time, that's a lot quicker on a bike.
Lou
No i dont think it includes reaction time, otherwise the gap would probably be a bit closer, but still cars do brake better than bikes..

[Ms Piggy]

Must write to the DomPost on this hilarious idea.

:laugh: :lol: Go on do it! But just make sure you tell us when you do so we can all write supporting comments in as a reply! :shifty:

[MD]

:laugh: :lol: Go on do it! But just make sure you tell us when you do so we can all write supporting comments in as a reply! :shifty:

Done it, emailed the Ed tonight. Hope the Tawa-ites can take a joke. Those mobility carts can get some serious speed down main street Tawa!

[pete376403]

Alexandra Road in Upper Hutt (back of Trentham Camp) used to be 100 k but the limit was dropped to 80. The only notification I saw of this was a small article in the local "Leader" rag. I'll bet the cops made a killing on that for a while. Yes the speed limit signs now show 80 but its been 100 km ever since it was sealed and put right through to Wallaceville - about 35 years. When a road has had a limit for that long what reason do regular users have to actually check the signs.

[Lou Girardin]

If Tawa's main street warrants a 40 limit, what about Queen St, Cuba St, K Rd, etc.
Sorry, I forgot K Rd has a 20 k limit. Can't check out the hookers if you go faster.
Lou

[spudchucka]

Actually Bikes don't have better braking than cars, yes bikes can brakes repeatedly with out brake fade, but the best braking distance ive seen for a bike is only like 36m, but with a car the best is 33m, but other than that good call :niceone:

Performance Bikes, the pommy magazine a few years ago ran a brake comparison test between a whole bunch of bikes and some fancy sports car fitted with ABS. As I recall all the bikes outperformed the sports car, so imagine how much better a bike would stop compared to a lumbering great Falcon!!

I've still got the mag at home somewhere and can post up the results if anyone is interested.

[Ms Piggy]

BUT! Surely...the speedsters will still keep speeding, not to mention the over cautious (just as dangerous!!) slow drivers will go even slower :argh:

As you can see I am at work & bored. :crazy:

[James Deuce]

Performance Bikes, the pommy magazine a few years ago ran a brake comparison test between a whole bunch of bikes and some fancy sports car fitted with ABS. As I recall all the bikes outperformed the sports car, so imagine how much better a bike would stop compared to a lumbering great Falcon!!

I've still got the mag at home somewhere and can post up the results if anyone is interested.

Yeah - even a Valkyrie beat the Rover 200 with Anti-Lock brakes, and traction control! :gob: In the wet! That was an awesome test that one.

[Lou Girardin]

BUT! Surely...the speedsters will still keep speeding, not to mention the over cautious (just as dangerous!!) slow drivers will go even slower :argh:

As you can see I am at work & bored. :crazy:

Well, don't apply for a job at the LTSA, you're far too bright.
Lou

[Ms Piggy]

Well, don't apply for a job at the LTSA, you're far too bright.
Lou

Well thanks Lou! :Offtopic: I actually work (part time) for a Govt Dept and they're all much of a muchness really!! :mellow:

[Two Smoker]

Well ofcourse it will out brake a Rover 200, mainly because they are crap.

Now lets compare, i have the Braking specs of alot of bikes

CBR900RR 98, 100kmh-0 in 37 metres
VFR 750 89 (yes 89) 100kmh-0 in 34.31 (best braking bike from honda)

http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/3906/index.html

Look at the site to see the other distances, most are around the 36-40meter mark, but dont better 34 metres, To my knowledge some of the best braking cars are the EVO's and STi's that are in the 33 metre mark, most performance cars are in the 34-36 mark instead of most performance bikes whick are in the 36-40metre mark, therefore cars brake better than bikes

[Lou Girardin]

Theres a bit more to it than that though, a look at the deceleration curves seem to show that cars make up the difference as the speeds drop. In other words, they stop faster as they get slower. Bikes wash off speed quicker initially, less inertia.
Lou

[spudchucka]

Theres a bit more to it than that though, a look at the deceleration curves seem to show that cars make up the difference as the speeds drop. In other words, they stop faster as they get slower. Bikes wash off speed quicker initially, less inertia.
Lou

Damn, it happened again. I hate agreeing with Lou!

[SPman]

Damn, it happened again. I hate agreeing with Lou!
Sometimes...a man's gotta do, what a man's gotta do.........:D

[Lou Girardin]

Damn, it happened again. I hate agreeing with Lou!
Come over to the darkside, spud. you know you want to.
Mwaahaaahaahaahaa.
Lou

[spudchucka]

Come over to the darkside, spud. you know you want to.
Mwaahaaahaahaahaa.
Lou
Every time I get on the TL its like going over to the dark side. :ride: