Rider training day on a racetrack. [Archive]

FROSTY

4th January 2006, 18:04

Another KBer suggested this as an idea.
We have some very experienced and quick racers and riders here.
we also have some folks either rusty being born again bikers or new to biking.
He has suggested a fast riding training day.
The deal would be for example 10 or 15 riders who feel they need to improve their road skills would pool their money to pay to hire a ractrack.
They would then each get an experienced rider to buddy up with them.
The experienced rider would NOT pay for tracktime as they would be acting as an instructor.
Id suggest having 5-8 students on the track at a time-with 10-15 minute sessions meaning 10-16 bikes
My gut feeling though is that manfeild is the only north island track offering sufficient variety of corners -ie once rights have been sorted we can reverse direction and do lefts.
The idea has real merit I feel
The cost per student would probably be about $100 each given NO emergency services/marshalls etc.

cowpoos

4th January 2006, 18:33

good I dear frosty....it would probally hav to be a weekday at manfield [one of their test days] as its usually got something happening at the weekends..

Dafe

4th January 2006, 18:37

For those of you near the Manfield Track. Both Shaun Harris & Brian Bernard are available to hire for track training as a group.

trumpy

4th January 2006, 18:56

Basic idea was to speed up the learning process for returnees and newbees by providing one to one coaching and in return the "coachers" would get free track time.
It was my experience motor racing that sometimes huge gains could be made in quite a short space of time by having one person dedicated to analysing your style and performance. Time and money is precious to us all and since we have a huge pool of talent on this site, it might be a way to maximise the gains for time and money spent on trying to improve our skills and, I for one, have no problem at all being coached by someone much younger the me. You take your lessons from where you need to.
The idea was not for race training (this is already available) but to improve our bike handling skills to make road riding and track days safer and more satisfying.

justsomeguy

5th January 2006, 12:05

Weren't all the things mentioned here to be covered in SpeedMedics rider training day sometime in Feb-March??? The one with the TradeMe auctions.......

Sensei

5th January 2006, 12:23

Could be a good Idea to have a " Show & Tell on how to setup your suspenion for those that have little to no Cue as to what it does & how it effect their bike as well ! All well a good taking people to a track to improve their Skills but abit Dangerous if their bikes are not set up to cope with the speeds that you get up to while racing round the Track . Just something I don't see getting done on any of these Track days that I have noticed .

Mental Trousers

5th January 2006, 12:24

Some one organise this and tell me where to put some money thanks.

Str8 Jacket

5th January 2006, 12:26

Yeah id definately be keen, one of my main aims this year is to get out on a Track day and this would be awesome experience....

loosebruce

5th January 2006, 14:25

Both Shaun Harris & Brian Bernard are available

Pfft so is Whitetrash and Me but then i could be full of shit again. But also they are available at a cost, where as i'd do it for love and trash a box of Stenies (maybe two boxes)

I'd be a goer Tony, sounds like a good idea mate. Even Taupo would be aight and do that in reverse, interesting, mind you the new cricut if that was just to be hired looks the bizzo as well.

White trash

6th January 2006, 06:34

Pfft so is Whitetrash and Me but then i could be full of shit again. But also they are available at a cost, where as i'd do it for love and trash a box of Stenies (maybe two boxes)

Shit, I'd do it for free. Not enough people crashing on here, they need to learn how to do it properly.

Dafe

6th January 2006, 06:37

Shit, I'd do it for free. Not enough people crashing on here, they need to learn how to do it properly.

So you wouldn't be doing it to trash the shit out of everybodies bikes? We know you Jimmy!
Maybe you should run a wheelie day........ You might just have to make it a week with the number of loonies keen to participate.

Momentum

6th January 2006, 09:09

I would be keen as for some track training.

if you sort one out let me know

FROSTY

6th January 2006, 09:24

Guys Im not suggesting RACE training here -The idea is to use the track as just another road but with no cars etc
Its just logisticly impossible to do on a normal track day
Id suggest as a format perhaps
A few laps to get an idea of what direction the track goes in for the students.
A walk around the track for the students stopping at each corner- a couple of instructors with them to talk em through the corners -at that point id suggest most of the instructors be on the track circulating at med pace to show lines,braking points etc
Then 1 on 1 instruction -with possibly an instructor watching each corner to see anything the other guys miss

Mental Trousers

6th January 2006, 20:28

Yeah all good. Lets do it mate. I'm always keen to do bike training.

FROSTY

6th January 2006, 20:32

ok Im gonna put up a poll to see how many are interested.
I'd suggest though the "students" would be paying around $100 each

VasalineWarrior

6th January 2006, 23:00

Fuggin aye when do we start? If experienced people like loosebruce and whitetrash with lots of track experience could do it for a few boxes of beers that would keep costs down, and that would be graet for a broke ass student like me

KLOWN

7th January 2006, 19:14

I'd LOVE to do this. I'm always keen to learn, and i'd be happy to fork out $100 for this.

justsomeguy

9th January 2006, 18:18

The location still Manfield?? Nothing closer to Auckland huh??

Could you guys think of organising transport too - like Death did - for the Auckland group?? Just floating ideas...... if it is at all possible.....

terbang

9th January 2006, 18:31

Yup count me in..!

Kendog

9th January 2006, 19:03

Hell yeah, me and the misses would be in for that! We've just got a new bike and she's as rusty as an old tin long-drop :shutup: and I would love to pick up some new tips and skills!! :ride: Keep us posted if this can be organised!!

cowboyz

9th January 2006, 19:32

on manfield.. Couple of things though...

1. licences. I still only have my restricted. Is there going to be rules on appropriate licences for the bike?

2. Taping up the bike. Would there be rules about taping up the lights and removing mirrors and the stuff you have to "normally" do on a track day?

cowpoos

9th January 2006, 19:51

I'll come and help do some teaching if I'm not busy...and yes...I can be most serious at times

VasalineWarrior

16th January 2006, 12:45

il believe that when I see it mate!

FROSTY

17th January 2006, 19:41

Folks--Im keen to get this as a happening thing
Taupo is a maybee -but its gonna be $110 per trainee on the small track.
based on 15 trainees.

loosebruce

17th January 2006, 20:32

Tony i'm sure even the "instructors" (using term loosely if me and trashy are involved) would front up a bit of cash as well to help bring that figure ($110) down.

cowpoos

17th January 2006, 20:33

Folks--Im keen to get this as a happening thing
Taupo is a maybee -but its gonna be $110 per trainee on the small track.
based on 15 trainees.

that would be a weekday?

Mental Trousers

18th January 2006, 11:27

If it's going to be 15 then I'd probably step aside unless there's a definite free spot. I'm of the opinion that almost everyone could use some help with their riding, but some more than others. Really all I'm after is clearing up any rough edges to my riding and seeing what I can improve. Basically, I don't any learner/restricted license people missing out because of me.

Sparky Bills

18th January 2006, 12:40

Id be keen to tag along/help out.

Just let me know when and where.

justsomeguy

18th January 2006, 12:41

Folks--Im keen to get this as a happening thing
Taupo is a maybee -but its gonna be $110 per trainee on the small track.
based on 15 trainees.

Is it possible to get a Saturday booking??

If yes, I'll put my name down and can pay ASAneeded.

Edit: When would you like to have this happen?? Feb - March??

Shade

18th January 2006, 18:44

I wouldnt mind doing one of these as race training -

I dont need any help for road riding, but would love to do something with people like WT, LB, Two smoker, KK, Motoracer, frosty, etc etc watching and helping out.

Trouble is, do we have 15 inexperienced racers like myself who need helping out, and then have enough fast experienced racers to instruct?

loosebruce

19th January 2006, 01:28

and then have enough fast experienced racers to instruct?

Me and trashy are worth at least 10 experianced riders, maybe 12 if trashy hasn't already downed the crate of stenie's before we start, that raving homo Dss3 might be keen too.

Point by JSG what day you looking at Tony?

Darkman

19th January 2006, 07:53

:2thumbsup I'll be really keen to this..need loads of help with riding lines..the suspension idea is not bad too!!

bugjuice

19th January 2006, 08:27

I'm fine for the road, but I want to know where I can pick up more points. If that's a worthy time, then I'd love to. If not, I'll step aside..

SPLATTA

20th January 2006, 10:39

If it's taupo I may be able to lend a hand.....speshly if trash and bruce are gonna be there too , don't wanna let the team down and all.....
Death_inc. (on the work pooter....)

cowpoos

20th January 2006, 11:40

Me and trashy are worth at least 10 experianced riders, maybe 12 if trashy hasn't already downed the crate of stenie's before we start, that raving homo Dss3 might be keen too.

Point by JSG what day you looking at Tony?

your misses gunna let you go out?

kiwifruit

20th January 2006, 16:43

im dead keen on getting out on the track
had my first go on the 14th at manfield
i feel i have learnt more from that than any other experience

the fact that you do the same thing again and again is great for sorting out lines, braking etc

loosebruce

21st January 2006, 09:16

your misses gunna let you go out?

Chances are i wont have a missus when i tell her i'm keeping the GSXR instead of selling it, girl or the bike? well if it was the TL i was talking about maybe the girl, but thats unlikly, gotta keep it real bro, pleanty more laydees outthere, only one GSXR that i can afford just now.

cowpoos

21st January 2006, 09:34

Chances are i wont have a missus when i tell her i'm keeping the GSXR instead of selling it, girl or the bike? well if it was the TL i was talking about maybe the girl, but thats unlikly, gotta keep it real bro, pleanty more laydees outthere, only one GSXR that i can afford just now.

rep dispatched

FROSTY

21st January 2006, 18:36

loosebruce

22nd January 2006, 15:40

Mate she might suprise ya

Nah mate no surprises here, when she found out i pulled a wheelie past a HP who was busy with someone else, as funny as it was (the look on his face), i was on the couch for 3 nights

cowpoos

22nd January 2006, 18:48

Nah mate no surprises here, when she found out i pulled a wheelie past a HP who was busy with someone else, as funny as it was (the look on his face), i was on the couch for 3 nights

fuck bro....why are you letting her eat ya food.... give her the boot***