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Karma
10th January 2006, 01:09
In light of the number of accidents on the roads recently, I'm putting together a newbie rider training day kinda thing.

If you feel your riding could be improved by watching / listening to other riders then please come along for a fun and informative day out.

If you're an experienced rider, and think you have knowledge to share then please also join us. Sharing what we know may help reduce the road toll for all of us.

Please note, this will be a SLOW PACE RIDE. There will probably be two sets, one doing around the 70kph mark, with another more confident group around 100kph.

Ride will be Clevedon-Kawakawa-Kaiaua on Sunday 29th January, meeting out at the BP in Botany Downs (just round from K-Mart). Meet at 10am for a 10:30 departure.

Those that wish to attend please register using the calender event (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=696&day=2006-1-29).

Karma
10th January 2006, 01:09
Ok folks. With the number of accidents that have been happening of late, and with the unfortunate departure of Scott Carpenter I feel compelled to do something about the riding that is taking place here.

From experience the basic handling test in New Zealand is a complete joke, people are leaving the car park with a piece of paper that says they are allowed to ride on the roads and absolutely no idea of how to do it properly, let alone safely.

As harsh as this may seem, and although I don't have all the information, the fact that Scott was a new rider, and had only been on a bike for less than a few weeks makes me wonder if perhaps the testing and licencing in NZ was a bit more practical based then he would still be with us.

So in a desire to not read of any more accidents (or worse) on these forums I propose a new riders instruction outing.

Whilst I certainly don't know anything there is to know about riding (does anyone?) there are many people on here that have been riding for years and could perhaps impart some of this knowledge in a relatively safe group environment.

What I would like to do is have as many experienced riders there as possible who could pass on advice to the newer riders, in the aim that this advice may save broken bones and perhaps even lives. These riders would ride within the pack keeping an eye on whichever newer riders are around them so that when we stop they can pass on anything they may have noticed, ie;

- took a corner a little too close to the centre line
- overtook when couldn't see round the corner
- following too close behind another bike / car

I've been told that the Wellsford ride might be a good one for this, fairly quiet roads, SH16 has apparently been resealed and is now a joy to ride.

One thing I want to make clear on this ride is that it will be Slow pace. If you're looking for an all out ride (yes I enjoy them too) then this is not for you.

So if anyone has any ideas or suggestions for the ride, or would like to turn up then please either PM me or post below.

I was thinking of the 30th Jan for this one, as it's a Bank Holiday, either that or the 29th which is the day before (Sunday).

If the government doesn't see it as necessary to ensure that all new riders have the skills they'll need to stay alive on our roads when they start to ride, then perhaps we as a community should take on the job ourselves, lest we have to open another book of condolences.

Gremlin
10th January 2006, 21:39
its awefully quiet weasel... have you got any pms to work with??

Although we don't know how many newbies would turn up yet

Karma
10th January 2006, 21:59
response has been limited... perhaps most (but not all) people here are all talk.

I'll be out on the 30th taking my bro for a ride so if anyone else fancies it then drop me a line.

Nicksta
10th January 2006, 22:01
If its a go, i'll come along for a ride... Sunday of anniversay weekend could be a go..

Goblin
10th January 2006, 22:15
*Watching tumbleweeds blow thru thread*:blink:
I know what you mean Weasel...my dad has bought my step-mum an old GSX750 and she phoned me & asked if I'd give her some lessons:eek5:
She told me she's had her full bike licence for 35 odd years and wants to learn to ride on the road. Legally she is allowed to ride on the road but FFS...a 750??? To learn on? Now I'm really REALLY worried about her. I haven't got over to Papamoa to see them yet or what condition the bike is in. I would rather see her get some road experience on a much smaller bike first. (btw she hasn't ridden it yet, I did tell her to just get used to handling round the yard to start with)
I have never tried to teach anyone to ride before and to be honest I would devastated if anything should happen to her. I guess this is the kind of responsibility people feel when people bin on organised rides.?? Maybe:spudwhat:
So how does one go about learning how to teach??

T.W.R
10th January 2006, 22:20
thats a bloody good idea Weasel,

and something that should be considered by all the KBs from the other centres around the country & held on a regular basis if things were done right & not the decline into a sprint type ego stroked blast.

the majority of new riders bust their guts to actually get on the road & some do it solely on their own without support & if some of us spent some time giving advice & pointers to them, accidents and tragic losses like Scott's could be minimised or reduced significantly.

Karma
10th January 2006, 22:26
the majority of new riders bust their guts to actually get on the road & some do it solely on their own without support & if some of us spent some time giving advice & pointers to them, accidents and tragic losses like Scott's could be minimised or reduced significantly.

My point exactly...

So I want to try and get some idea of people that want this to go ahead.

If you are a new rider and think you could do with some advice / pointers then post up here... there's nothing to be ashamed or embarassed about, you might just learn something you'll need soon.

If you're someone that things they have things to share (other than STDs and rude words) then please either post or PM so I can get an idea of group size.

Cheers,

Mrs Busa Pete
11th January 2006, 05:18
I take my hat off to you this is such a good idea.I can't come on this one shoulder still in sling but i would be interested in furture rides. Because if i could save one person from having there arm in a sling or worse with a little bit of knowledge then it was was worth it

Mad Cow
11th January 2006, 06:25
I would be interested but live south. Would you be planning on anything this end of Auckland?? I know my limitations and Wellsford doesn't even come close!!!!

crashe
11th January 2006, 07:05
*Watching tumbleweeds blow thru thread*:blink:
I know what you mean Weasel...my dad has bought my step-mum an old GSX750 and she phoned me & asked if I'd give her some lessons:eek5:
She told me she's had her full bike licence for 35 odd years and wants to learn to ride on the road. Legally she is allowed to ride on the road but FFS...a 750??? To learn on? Now I'm really REALLY worried about her. I haven't got over to Papamoa to see them yet or what condition the bike is in. I would rather see her get some road experience on a much smaller bike first. (btw she hasn't ridden it yet, I did tell her to just get used to handling round the yard to start with)
I have never tried to teach anyone to ride before and to be honest I would devastated if anything should happen to her. I guess this is the kind of responsibility people feel when people bin on organised rides.?? Maybe:spudwhat:
So how does one go about learning how to teach??

hmmm thats a bit ask.... to ask of you..
Maybe get a group of the guys in Tauranga to go with you to help you give her some lessons...
But you are right ... getting onto a 750 after so many years..is scarey.

She wants to learn on the ROAD.... did she never ride a bike in the first place except to get her license 35 years ago.?

If thats the case then she needs to get a GN250 or a VIRAGO 250 cruiser to learn on...

Good on her for wanting to get back out there riding again.. thats great to hear.. but she should be facing reality like you say and start off on a smaller bike... not jump into the deep end..

All the best in teaching her... a little at a time... up to the local school grounds or a empty car park.. for a hour at the most to start off with...
teach her all the basics first... and please make sure that her helmet fits her correctly.. and she has decent riding gear.. as i know you would do this..

Good luck...

FROSTY
11th January 2006, 07:18
Its up to the ride "captain" (tell me a better word and I'll use it) to keep the ride under control and at a pace suitable for newer riders.
They need the strenth of personality to lead and once leading control the more out there riders.
I'd sugggest a ride to wellsford or even the crushed Pipi in Mangawhai
Make sure there are designated stopping points along the way
Usual stopping places being -shell at end of the NW motorway.Kaukopakopa gas station. The lookout on SH16 and The gas station at wellsford

Ixion
11th January 2006, 08:09
If it goes ahead and I'm not working I'll come along on the BMW and ride at the back. That should help stop idiot cagers cutting in on the newbies.And I ride slow.

Karma
11th January 2006, 11:41
I would be interested but live south. Would you be planning on anything this end of Auckland?? I know my limitations and Wellsford doesn't even come close!!!!

If can get into the CBD then it's all nice relaxed group riding from there. Making sure we have enough time at stops to regroup properly and get some tips / tricks out to people for the next leg.


Its up to the ride "captain" (tell me a better word and I'll use it)

I was thinking, 'Lord', or perhaps 'Chief'?


keep the ride under control and at a pace suitable for newer riders.
They need the strenth of personality to lead and once leading control the more out there riders.

Well I'll have my little brother on the ride, and he's restricted to 70kph, so if anyone wants to start going faster / dicking around then they'll be politely asked to calm it down or take it elsewhere.


If it goes ahead and I'm not working I'll come along on the BMW and ride at the back. That should help stop idiot cagers cutting in on the newbies.And I ride slow.

Good on ya, hope to see ya there.

FROSTY
11th January 2006, 14:04
I see your point re your bro--Issue as I see it is the proposed ride is on open roads ie 100km/h roads. May present problems with cagers at the speed limit wanting to get past say 20 bikes all doing 70km/h

MidnightMike
11th January 2006, 14:11
Id be keen for it if their was one around my way.

Fishy
11th January 2006, 14:36
If its on the 29th I'll be keen Weasel, can't stress enough how important safety is with the number of idiots on the roads these days.

Karma
11th January 2006, 14:38
I'm up for either day... if anyone has any preference then post up here and we'll get as many people out as possible...

Ixion
11th January 2006, 14:53
I see your point re your bro--Issue as I see it is the proposed ride is on open roads ie 100km/h roads. May present problems with cagers at the speed limit wanting to get past say 20 bikes all doing 70km/h

You wouldn't want them in one big group anyway, defeats the purpose - too hard to notice stuff.

Break up into groups of 5 or 6 , each with an experienced rider following behind. And an experienced rider in front of each group if yu have the numbers . (One at front to show how, one behind to watch and pick up mistakes) . Ridemaster at the front, Tail End Charley at the back .

Each experienced rider mentors his own group, Ridemaster keeps it all together, and TEC deals with breakdowns, crashes (Gawd forbid) and re-educating wan**er cagers who do stupid shit.

Some groups could be 100kph , some 70 , so long as they all regroup regularly.

If there are spare experienced riders, use them as pointsmen, so the Ridemaster doesn't have to stop at intersections. Experienced guys can get a bit of a blat catching up again once TEC is past.

Nobody passes Ridemaster, on pain of. If you have 100 and 70 kph groups you probably want a second Ridemaster at the front of the 70kph group to avoid them speed creeping.

bugjuice
11th January 2006, 15:03
I'd be keen to tag along..

don't forget to reiterate the point of staggered road riding in groups. Open roads are different. But group riding on town roads is different.

As for the 70kph rule, I still think it's a dangerous stupid rule. I wouldn't be fussed about enforcing the 70k rule, just be level headed and safe. Bikes are the only license-speed restricted thing on the road, which is down right dangerous. But at the risk of loosing the point of the thread, group riding at 100 should be fine for most, as long as they follow the basic rules.

Karma
11th January 2006, 15:05
Yep... depending on the number of people out I'll break it down into smaller groups as you say.

We'll need a reasonable number of experienced riders there...

I've posted up a calender event, and would be great if people who are turning up could start registering on there so I can get an idea of numbers :D

Maha
11th January 2006, 15:15
Great idea Weasel , i have been on my 600 for 5 months, ride with a couple of seasoned riders on 900's......... i watch them very closley, well, one i do, the other has a crazy right hand at times and likes the 240 kph spurts. Gear selection going into corners is something i have worked, had to stop that drifting feeling, i would been keen as hell to join up on a ride, im off on a 2 week break at Ruakaka on the 15th, but any other time i would have a look at it for sure

Maha
11th January 2006, 15:19
Im doing my full on Feb' 21, lucky my dear lady has a 250, sold mine :Oops:

Patch
11th January 2006, 16:17
I think Sunday would be better, it should be quieter than Monday especially in the morning which would be good from a safety perspective. Any idea what time you wanna start?:scooter:

Karma
11th January 2006, 16:22
Thinking of a CBD meeting in Auckland domain (or thereabouts) at about 9ish maybe, then pick up some others out at westgate or over at takapuna, depending on which way round we go.

Shawn
11th January 2006, 18:03
i might tag along...

Marmoot
11th January 2006, 18:10
Don't go north, Weasel.

For learners, I suggest Clevedon-kawakawa-Kaiaua.

It is more open and predictable. Only 2 dangerous spots, but I believe you can dispatch a fairly quick rider to stand guard on those spots.

I nursed a group through there before. The road is perfect for learning.

I don't mind going along if it is Saturday.

Gremlin
11th January 2006, 18:18
Don't go north, Weasel.

For learners, I suggest Clevedon-kawakawa-Kaiaua.

It is more open and predictable. Only 2 dangerous spots, but I believe you can dispatch a fairly quick rider to stand guard on those spots.
heh, what do you know, weasel was reckoning wellsford, I tossed in kaiaua as another option when we started kicking around the idea...

you talking about the two left handers that suddenly tighten up?? Then again, there are a few more lefts and rights that are unusual for the norm of the road.

The few odd corners are why we sorta went with wellsford, but kaiaua has the fish and chips and what not.

Marmoot
11th January 2006, 20:13
heh, what do you know, weasel was reckoning wellsford, I tossed in kaiaua as another option when we started kicking around the idea...

you talking about the two left handers that suddenly tighten up?? Then again, there are a few more lefts and rights that are unusual for the norm of the road.

The few odd corners are why we sorta went with wellsford, but kaiaua has the fish and chips and what not.

Wellsford has too much straights that teaches nothing. Not to mention traffic too. I also saw quite a number of KB binned in that route. The Silverdale-Riverhead route (if you are taking it) is quite swamped with fatalities too.

Kaiaua way has more sweeping corners, which are good for learning lines, especially if you are doing slow-ish speed. Just don't watch the scenery too much.
And, as you said Gremlin, the fosh'n'chops ship is a good one. :headbang:

Marmoot
11th January 2006, 20:16
*Watching tumbleweeds blow thru thread*:blink:
I know what you mean Weasel...my dad has bought my step-mum an old GSX750 and she phoned me & asked if I'd give her some lessons:eek5:

Do you know what is the motto of pre-1994 GSXR riders?

"Turn you bloody thing! Turn!"

:blink:

Be very careful dear.....

Karma
11th January 2006, 20:30
And, as you said Gremlin, the fosh'n'chops ship is a good one. :headbang:

Ok... could be a better idea.

I'll have to look at some maps, I've never done either route so will need to see which way to go

chickenfunkstar
11th January 2006, 20:34
I don't mind lending a hand if ya want, i'm reasonably experiancedish ( I know that isn't a word) these days.

Marmoot
11th January 2006, 20:47
Ok... could be a better idea.

I'll have to look at some maps, I've never done either route so will need to see which way to go

I wouldn't mind giving you 1-1 preliminary sessions.

Karma
11th January 2006, 20:50
Sorry... I think you're nice and that... but I'm not... urm... this is really akward... gay.

;)

Gremlin
11th January 2006, 21:05
I wouldn't mind giving you 1-1 preliminary sessions.
go away, I already propos.... *cough* offered :ride:

nah, I pm'ed him, we'll probably tootle along this weekend. Then he can see what he thinks. Easy to underestimate a ride when its a local track you use often.

Weasel going through first time, we can identify bad points.

Patch
11th January 2006, 21:05
It doesn't really matter which road you take, but whether you take it safely or not. That is the whole point of the exercise. A road is a road, they have corners . . . some left, some right . . . crikey you might even come across some traffic. The more you ride, the more you learn, if you're not confident ask and ride with someone who is. Like I said, it doesn't really matter which road you take.

Karma
11th January 2006, 21:10
That's true patch, but obviously a quieter road would be better for a large pack of new guys to ride on.

Shall take a ride out there this weekend to see what the road is like, and weather the fish and chips are a good as everyone keeps saying :D

Marmoot
11th January 2006, 22:34
go away, I already propos.... *cough* offered :ride:

Bah.....there goes my chance.

Oh well, don't forget to wear rubber.....err.....whatever

deathstar
11th January 2006, 22:42
hhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ride, oh erm i mean mmmmmmm donuts

boomer
11th January 2006, 22:56
Nice work mate; Good luck and have fun.

Sunny side up :ride:

Karma
11th January 2006, 23:12
I would suggest you join us Boomer, but I can't imagine you on a slow ride ;)

Karma
12th January 2006, 00:21
Date and ride has been arranged, please see first post for info, and register if you fancy a go.

Gremlin
12th January 2006, 00:44
OK, tentatively, this will be the meeting point.

Botany BP. Just across the road from Pak 'n Save and the Warehouse, next to Harvey Norman. Access from Chapel Road if you want.

If coming from city, head along the motorway, take the South Eastern Highway turn off, and once over Waipuna Bridge, turn right at traffic lights onto Ti Rakau Drive. That will take you all the way to Botany. Past Paradice Ice Rink on your left, through 2 traffic lights, next traffic light, turn left, and you are on Chapel Rd.

lia
12th January 2006, 06:52
its a great thing you guys are doing. i'll be there for the next one providing i have a learners ... oh and a bike :scratch:

cowpoos
12th January 2006, 11:32
its a great thing you guys are doing. i'll be there for the next one providing i have a learners ... oh and a bike :scratch:

borrow hubbies SP1.......lmfao

Fishy
12th January 2006, 13:21
OK, tentatively, this will be the meeting point.

Botany BP. Just across the road from Pak 'n Save and the Warehouse, next to Harvey Norman. Access from Chapel Road if you want.

If coming from city, head along the motorway, take the South Eastern Highway turn off, and once over Waipuna Bridge, turn right at traffic lights onto Ti Rakau Drive. That will take you all the way to Botany. Past Paradice Ice Rink on your left, through 2 traffic lights, next traffic light, turn left, and you are on Chapel Rd.

Hey Gremlin, what time are you, Weasel and the others wanting to meet? Are you still wanting to take a ZX7R for a ride? Mt Edens have a couple of them at the moment.

lia
12th January 2006, 13:33
borrow hubbies SP1.......lmfao


yea why not. apparently he hands out the keys to any man and his dog. :shit:

cowpoos
12th January 2006, 13:42
yea why not. apparently he hands out the keys to any man and his dog. :shit:

he ain't let me ride it yet!!!!!! <_<

lia
12th January 2006, 13:50
maybe cos he has ya already. you really should play hard to get for at least a little while :oi-grr:

Gremlin
12th January 2006, 16:10
Hey Gremlin, what time are you, Weasel and the others wanting to meet? Are you still wanting to take a ZX7R for a ride? Mt Edens have a couple of them at the moment.
Time, we haven't decided yet, maybe mid morning. We will talk about it a bit on Sunday, and look at timing, how long the ride might take, so on.

Mt Eden now has one... I did test ride one, liked it so much, its not for sale anymore :yes:

Kendog
12th January 2006, 19:46
Geeze, my wifey would love to do something like this!! She's dying to go 'rideys' with some others, pity we live in Wellington. :baby: Anyone in the Wellington area keen to pick up on this idea and take a few newer riders for a spin? :ride:

Unit
12th January 2006, 19:59
* Legally she is allowed to ride on the road but FFS...a 750??? To learn on? I did tell her to just get used to handling round the yard to start with)
I have never tried to teach anyone to ride before and to be honest I would devastated if anything should happen to her. I guess this is the kind of responsibility people feel when people bin on organised rides.?? Maybe:spudwhat:
So how does one go about learning how to teach??
It's a tough one alright. I must admit, my first bike I learnt to ride on was a Norton 850 commando. The benefit of learn on a big bike is I find them much more stable on the road, especially in windy conditions. The fact she is a more mature rider helps, with a mature head on her shoulders. I too was made to push my bike around for at least a week to get used to the weight. Make sure she knows where all the controls are without looking, last thing she needs to worry about once up and running. As we all know there is a lot to learn. Start with a fimiliar but quiet road, one she is aware of all the hazards. Ask her how different that road appeared on a bike as aposed to a car drive, this will highlight the differences of riding. The corner leaning, a big one. If she has been a pillion for some time thats a great help. Understanding the power and what it takes to pull it up is most important, and being happy to be a nanna on it for some time (tell her 20 years later I'm still the first to leave and the last to arrive, I handle the jokes, but hey, I'm still alive with all my bits attached!).:rofl: Take it slow, but ride everyday possible. I've been commuting to work on the TL since I got it, and the benefit of riding it everyday far outways the flat spot I've worn out in the centre of my tyre.:sleep: But I feel totally comfortable on my bike now. Best of luck;)

MadDuck
12th January 2006, 20:02
I hate to put a downer on this event because its a mighty fine effort to help out new riders.

BUT MotorRacer and Twosmoker tried to combine this on a ride down 22 last year. Small group suddenly became a group of fast, slow, medium. And although its great the faster guys want to come along and help out it kinda caused a few problems with numbers. More faster peps than wanting to learn.

I guess I am saying please learn from past KB experiences and restrict the ride to the ones you want to really help.
IMHO

T.I.E
12th January 2006, 20:21
if i'm free ill gladly lend a hand.

Goblin
12th January 2006, 20:21
Duc-girl....Damn good advice! Thanks for your input, I do appreciate it.
Come to think of it, I learnt to ride on the road on a Katana 750 in AUCKLAND at the tender age of 17-18 so there's no reason why Avril shouldn't in Papamoa/Tauranga. She has not been a pillion that I know of...tried a few times to get my dad to get on the back but he's too chicken.
I will try to remember all you comments when I see her tomorrow, if it's not raining.




Sorry Weasel....I'm not trying to hijack your thread, just trying to get my head around teaching.

Karma
12th January 2006, 20:23
Well I'll see who wants to help, then hold auditions as to who are the best riders, having a telephone poll at the end of each show to see how should be eliminated.

At the end we'll either have the safest riders, or the fattest, uglyest scary ones ;)

Riderskills
12th January 2006, 20:38
I would be happy to ride with you on this run and assist new riders free of charge.

Philip McDaid
Chief Instructor - Riderskills

http://www.riderskills.co.nz

bugjuice
12th January 2006, 20:50
I would be happy to ride with you on this run and assist new riders free of charge.

Philip McDaid
Chief Instructor - Riderskills

http://www.riderskills.co.nz
Good on ya, and welcome to our little world ;)

Yeah MD, I was thinking something the same. some record that was set for that n00b ride. But worked well. Just have to organize it well

Karma
12th January 2006, 20:53
I would be happy to ride with you on this run and assist new riders free of charge.

Philip McDaid
Chief Instructor - Riderskills

http://www.riderskills.co.nz

That's very generous of your philip, thank you kindly.

Ironically so far I've had more offers from experienced riders then I've had requests from inexperienced ones :sleep:

Plenty of time to get more people together...

I'll be taking a run over there on the weekend, so will see what the track (:Punk: ) is like and where we can set meeting points.

Thinking about going the full 9 yards, little printouts and shit... will see ;)

bugjuice
12th January 2006, 21:03
you might find that a lot of people will decide on the day. I had a ride where I expected 12 to turn up. 38 bikes rolled up in total.
Equally, I thought I was going to have a nice number for one ride, around 10. I got 3... Organising a ride is like a boax o choclots..

Mad Cow
12th January 2006, 21:03
I am keen ( I am a real nana though be warned!!!) at the moment I am working Sunday so will have to try and swap shifts before I can put my name forward.

Dutchee
12th January 2006, 21:35
Tentatively, I'm keen. Which way to Clevedon? Scenic route or the other way?
Last time we stopped for fush'n'chops, didn't think much of the chops, but the fush was good. Kaikohe had better chops, but the fush was dodgy. Shop in Matamata does both good.
What was the start time?
As for ability, been riding road about 1-1/2 years, refuse to ride at a pace I'm not happy about and don't care about being tailendcharlie. Commute every day and do longer rides on the weekend - when not riding offroad. Have full licence. Love riding twisty roads, but suck at them.
Again, I'm a tentative, not a definite (talk was of going camping that weekend, but will let you know in the week before).

Gremlin
12th January 2006, 21:39
Route will be through beachlands, maraetai, take in the pohutukawa coast.

Start will be mid morning most likely, so 10-11, but that is yet to be decided absolutely.

Patch
12th January 2006, 21:50
its a great thing you guys are doing. i'll be there for the next one providing i have a learners ... oh and a bike :scratch:

Why not just jump on the back of someone's bike and come with us.

robnz
12th January 2006, 21:55
count me in. know the roads fairly well around there having lived in howick and maukau most of my time in this country, and i'm always looking to improve my riding skills.

raster
12th January 2006, 22:14
I'm in. Happy birthday to me!

M1CRO
12th January 2006, 23:32
If someone who doesnt have a bike is interested in going (to be sociable of course).. then the back of the busa is free :) PM me and let me know... Depends on me being able to organise a few things, but there is a good chance I will be there :)

Leong
13th January 2006, 06:29
Beware the two sets of major roadworks on the Whitford-Brookby road, between Sandstone Rd and Ara-Kotinga Roads if you're going that way. I suspect by the 29th it'll probably be sealed, but there'll still be lots of gravel on it. Its thru curves and theres "some" camber on the road too.

Scouse
13th January 2006, 09:04
Hi Weasle Im able to help you on that weekend

robnz
13th January 2006, 11:34
Beware the two sets of major roadworks on the Whitford-Brookby road, between Sandstone Rd and Ara-Kotinga Roads if you're going that way. I suspect by the 29th it'll probably be sealed, but there'll still be lots of gravel on it. Its thru curves and theres "some" camber on the road too.

i might have a scoot around the area the day before to see what the roads are like.

Phurrball
13th January 2006, 12:05
I'm super-keen to learn from experienced riders (4+ months and 4000+km under my belt so far...), and I imagine Mrs P would be too...Murphy's law would have it that this is on the 29th. Sadly I must pick up a mate from the Airport on at 1pm that day...:weep:

This is a fantastic initiative - I'll keep a look out for the next equivalent ride...

Momentum
13th January 2006, 15:12
I wpi;d be really keen to have some good riders watch my riding and give me some pointer. But its going mean having to make my way up from hamilton again. That also means getting lost in auckland trying to find the meeting spot. reminds me of tuesday :rofl:
I really want help with my Lines in corners

been riding for like 3 months now done about just over 4000k's on the bike
ride my bike every day to work
I am ment to have an L plate but i dont use it at all

Karma
13th January 2006, 15:23
There's a map on the thread detailing where the meeting point is, and I'll post up my number so if anyone get's lost they can buzz me on the way.

Momentum
13th January 2006, 15:31
dude i am from hamilton. me and finding my way round in auckland do not mix to well

justsomeguy
13th January 2006, 15:39
Awesome stuff here Weasel. I think you've got all your bases organised. I don't think there's any need for me to proceed any further with the stuff I PM'ed you.

I'll be off with QkChk and co up north so regretfully I wont be around.

Glad to see you have excellent riders like M1cro etc there to help you out. Have a chat with this chap - he's a BRONZ riding instructor with heaps of experience that can help newbies- the same applies to all the other experienced riders, they have a ton of info we newbies can learn - so all you guys/gals don't hesitate to ask them any questions none of them bite.

Enjoy yourselves and be safe:ride:

lia
13th January 2006, 18:53
Why not just jump on the back of someone's bike and come with us.

thanks for the offer Patch (although i dunno if you were actually offering yourself??), always keen when the offer is there! doubt i can but will pm if anything changes. :niceone:

... although im not sure how it will help me learn to ride :scratch:

terbang
13th January 2006, 19:24
Weasel I think its a great idea and support it and my thoughts have been in a similar direction for a different reason. My daughter turning 15 very soon is dead keen on getting her beginners licence and buying a motorbike for the road. I have been having a few sleepless nights over it especially when I follow the posts on Korowetere and witness a few scary acts by people in cages. She has been raised with bikes, has pillioned since she was 6 and has done some big rides with me over the years, she just loves them. For the last year she has had a DT175 that she has been hacking around our lifestyle block on which has a swamp and some steep, rough stuff as well. She has developed her basic handling skills very nicely and can handle a slippery surface, uses brakes and gearbox well and can even do jumps and really cool wheelies and can adjust her line when required. She has binned herself countless times and we have even spent time in A&E getting suspected broken arms X-Rayed and have had to bend/Weld that old dunger back into shape a few times. So I suspect she has the handling skills to blitz the driver test and I believe that every new rider should hack around a paddock on an old trailie prior to going on the road. So now she can drive a motorcycle amd will easily pass an exam but in my view she is no where ready for a licence I want to see more and now it is time to develop what is between her ears and give her the judgement skills along with road skills to ride safely on the road. I need to do decide on which bike and I am going to settle on, something benign like a GN250 appeals as I feel that the GSXZZRCBR (whatever) 250 rocket ships are not that suitable for beginners as I don't want to see her missing out on some valuable road skills because she is struggling to keep up with a rocket ship. Make the bike easy to ride and let her concentrate on the big picture of what is happening around her on the road seems to be right to me. Now a proposal such as yours Weasel sounds like a good idea to get her into riding with like minded people and I hope that she can attend something like this in the future. Can't come on the 29th as I'm working but would love to follow along on anything like that in the future.
I can volunteer my property for those that want to bring thier old trailies out and brush up or gain a few basic handling skills PM me if you want to.

Gremlin
13th January 2006, 20:30
Beware the two sets of major roadworks on the Whitford-Brookby road, between Sandstone Rd and Ara-Kotinga Roads if you're going that way. I suspect by the 29th it'll probably be sealed, but there'll still be lots of gravel on it.
*sigh* Like robnz, but helping the organiser, I guess I will have to constantly monitor the roads... damn... ;)

Sandstone Rd is nice for err.... keeping to the limit :bs:

But we can also head back in several other directions... must just see where exactly the road works are, and correct the end of the route from there. Basically, we'll head back to Clevedon from fush and chups, so we can either go through twilight, but turn towards alfriston, or go back along the coast, or head to the motorway...

boomer
13th January 2006, 20:56
he ain't let me ride it yet!!!!!! <_<
tee heee heee... i had a quick blat last week too :finger:


Nice work riderskillz.. good on ya;

APPLE
13th January 2006, 21:12
count me in?gotta b at a wedding in kawhia on the 28th?but cumn bak that nite....b keen 2 ride with the newbies?Roosta and Dingo could b starters 2.(non kb'rs)....scrap dingo,hes riding down 2 gore 4 a wedding?

raster
13th January 2006, 22:27
Momentum, great to meet you on Tuesday night.

my place is easy to find in papakura, we could meet up and go through together, PM me if you want.

Cronan
13th January 2006, 23:15
What's happening here is GREAT! I'm a newbie rider and took a familiar corner a little bit too fast after having my kr150 for not even two months. Being a poor student, I was still paying dad off for the bike, and couldn't afford leathers etc so I was lucky that I fell off i slid along GRASS and into a big tall fence that stopped me from going over a bank into this big factory place.

To get away with only grass burn on my arm an a few little cuts on my leg after falling off my bike at 60km/hr+ in shorts and a rugby shirt I consider myself VERY lucky. As I said, it was a familiar route I was taking and felt confident/unstoppable. If you're a newbie and can attend this then I'd DEFINATELY say go for it!!! I would love to goto this event but I live in New Plymouth so anyone down in the Naki that would want to do something like this I would REALLY appreciate it!! Bikes still in shop for another 3weeks so anytime after that would be good. PM me if there's anyone out there that'd like to help me out :eek:

Good on ya Weasel for organising this!! Hope it's a great day for all who attend :niceone:

Fireproof
14th January 2006, 10:50
Assuming the crew at Coleman suzuki have my bike back to me i would be mad keen for an educational ride close to the Auckland region. Maybe will teach me how to take right hand corners... um better.

M1CRO
14th January 2006, 11:24
dude i am from hamilton. me and finding my way round in auckland do not mix to well
I live in Manukau, so if you want, get off at the Manukau off-ramp (northbound) and I will meet you at the end of it, and lead you the rest of the way :) - There is a slim chance I may not be able to make it, so you may need to organise a Plan "B" :)

SpankMe
15th January 2006, 08:51
Your meeting time/departure and place need to be made more noticeable in the homepage and calendar posts.

kels
15th January 2006, 09:20
OK, tentatively, this will be the meeting point.

Botany BP. Just across the road from Pak 'n Save and the Warehouse, next to Harvey Norman. Access from Chapel Road if you want.


Damn! Is anyone going from West Auckland? I freely admit that I am a big girly wee's when going to places that I don't know where I am going and I tend to panic (do this in the cage as well) So if anyone from the Westside is heading out...Can I tag along????:baby:

Nicksta
15th January 2006, 09:57
Damn! Is anyone going from West Auckland? I freely admit that I am a big girly wee's when going to places that I don't know where I am going and I tend to panic (do this in the cage as well) So if anyone from the Westside is heading out...Can I tag along????:baby:

If i can get out of work i'll be going, but i'll only find out closer to the time, I can PM you when i know and we can go together :niceone:

MGST
15th January 2006, 11:16
Sounds like a good day for us newbies. I will do my darndest to be there. Do you know that the BP at Botany Downs ( the one on Botany Rd opposite Kings Plant Barn ) has closed? Went past this morning and the pumps have been ripped out and all the signs taken down, doesn't look to be reopening any time soon. Might need to find somewhere else to meet because the whole forecourt / carpark is fenced off.

robnz
15th January 2006, 11:20
Sounds like a good day for us newbies. I will do my darndest to be there. Do you know that the BP at Botany Downs ( the one on Botany Rd opposite Kings Plant Barn ) has closed?

wrong BP i think. meeting at the one on chapel road.

MGST
15th January 2006, 11:29
OH yeah the one just around the corner. Forgot about that one.... Thanks.

MGST
15th January 2006, 11:37
What time are you meeting at BP ( did I miss that somewhere? ).

robnz
15th January 2006, 12:17
as far as i can tell the time has not been set yet. a time around 10 - 11 has been mentioned. had a quick read through the tread but could not find a exact time, but i could have missed it.

Swoop
15th January 2006, 13:47
My daughter is dead keen on getting her beginners licence and buying a motorbike for the road. I have been having a few sleepless nights over it especially when I follow the posts on Korowetere and witness a few scary acts by people in cages. She has been raised with bikes, has pillioned since she was 6 and has done some big rides with me over the years, she just loves them. So I suspect she has the handling skills to blitz the driver test and I believe that every new rider should hack around a paddock on an old trailie prior to going on the road. So now she can drive a motorcycle amd will easily pass an exam but in my view she is no where ready for a licence I want to see more and now it is time to develop what is between her ears and give her the judgement skills along with road skills to ride safely on the road.
A scary phase for a parent Terbang. However it does sound as though the skills your daughter has learned on the dirtbikes will stand her in good stead for the future. Perhaps a riding course as a present? Even a full licence is still only a "licence to learn", so having the proper skills from the start is a huge advantage. Also remember that girls are less ego-centric than guys, and will learn more and be more focused / benefiting greater from a course.
Good on you both!

boomer
15th January 2006, 16:06
i've just got back from a ride out that way and i think weasel and gremlin are still scoping it out; I'm sure they will be here soon to define things and answer questions;

bloody nice road, plenty to experience and beautiful stops for chats, coffee, fags and fush & chups ;)

kels
15th January 2006, 16:28
If i can get out of work i'll be going, but i'll only find out closer to the time, I can PM you when i know and we can go together :niceone:
Thanks Heaps Nicksta! Really appreciate that !:not:

Karma
15th January 2006, 16:29
Yeh I'm home.

Didn't want to set a meeting time until I'd checked out the road / stopping places.

Meeting at Botany Downs BP (Just round the corner from K-Mart, time will be 10am, for a 10:30 departure.

Gremlin
15th January 2006, 19:54
yeah, back now, sunburnt (too long a stop for lunch), but good ride.

Overall road surface is good, patches in places, but to be expected really. Stops have been ironed out, and troublesome corners identified.

Ideally, we will have x number of groups, with riders knowing the whole route and condition at lead, and experienced riders at the rear to judge the riding/identify corrections etc.

The leaders of each group will be able to slow down the group at the relevant dangerous corners, and lead the group along the route. We may still need people to guide the route, but we'll see how many riders on the day, that sort of thing.

Finish will be at the same BP station, so if you can get there, you'll be able to get home as well, don't want to be leaving people in the middle of nowhere :pinch:

Leong
16th January 2006, 05:20
Green stuff to you guys for your efforts so far. Looks like you've put a lot of thought into it.

Out of curiosity, we comin back the same way, or thru Hunua. THere'd be much less traffic on the Hunua road, except the short SH2 bit...

Karma
16th January 2006, 10:08
Yeh we were thinking the Hunua way back, would give them a chance to strech their legs a bit.

slimyxylofone
16th January 2006, 13:00
I'd be pretty keen to be a part of this. Although I've had a car licence for about 5 years years and already feel pretty confident on the little GN250 (700km under my belt) on motorways etc, I'm sure I could learn a thing or two.

I'll put my name down but will have to sort out if I'm free on the 29th. I live in Waiuku at the moment, so if anyone wants to meet up before hand (Pukekohe, Papakura, Manukau etc) then that'd be cool. I travel at 100km/h on most roads.

Cheers to Philip from Riderskills for volunteering his skills and time. I did my Basic Handling Skills with him and I'm sure his input would be very valuable.

Devil
16th January 2006, 13:31
I should be along with pillion. Will have to confirm closer to the date.

Quasievil
16th January 2006, 15:11
Im Keen to come along to watch laugh or help , not in that order neccersarly (hoe do you spell that)
Anyway 25 years riding I should be able to point someone on the direction of how to ride a like a blouse:ride:

loosebruce
16th January 2006, 16:07
If i still have a bike round that date i'll pop along and show some noobs the right way to crash, coz it's not the crashing it's how they are crashing :scratch:

metric
16th January 2006, 20:24
yeah am a n00b and keen to pick up a few pointers...

will be there

Gremlin
17th January 2006, 00:49
Out of curiosity, we comin back the same way, or thru Hunua. THere'd be much less traffic on the Hunua road, except the short SH2 bit...
yep, as weasel says, hunua.

We get onto SH2 (which will split us up, bloody traffic) then turn off right just after mangatawhiri. As we turn left a couple of k down the road, there is a pull off to the right, we will re-group there.

Somewhere along the route (I ride by sight, not road names - but there is a petrol station just before) we turn right, and the road takes us back to Clevedon.

From there, Twilight Rd, Brookby, Alfriston, ?Hill Rd? and turn off right on ridge, straight through to new development, road curves round (becomes stancombe rd) to chapel. Then onto Chapel, and back to the BP at Botany.

Enough detail?? :rofl:

Leong -> :thud:

Leong
17th January 2006, 05:16
yep, as weasel says, hunua.

We get onto SH2 (which will split us up, bloody traffic) then turn off right just after mangatawhiri. As we turn left a couple of k down the road, there is a pull off to the right, we will re-group there.

Somewhere along the route (I ride by sight, not road names - but there is a petrol station just before) we turn right, and the road takes us back to Clevedon.


Yes, theres two turns to the right you can take, the first goes to Hunua Falls, has more corners, then you turn right at the tee onto Monument road that leads to Clevedon. I think this is the one you mean.

The second, 1 to 2km further down the road goes directly onto the road that becomes Monument further down, can't remember the name either!!

Sounds like you guys have it well covered!! ( and I'm all into detail!! )

raster
17th January 2006, 11:45
Sounds like Sky High Road, becomes Monument Rd.

Brownbikerbabe
18th January 2006, 12:38
Awwwwww.......Can I come toooo? Only one problem I need a plane ticket!:weep:

We have motorcycle safety schools popping up here like mushrooms. Everyone and their grandmother is starting one up, lately, demand is so high now. One college here is so full they have a 18 month waiting list.

Why don't you all get together and start 'er up? You would only help noobs like me who thought "oooooo, now I can ride" once you get the written test out of the way......it isn't so easy once you are on the bike, in traffic, with every idoit cage driver infront, beside and behind you.

You are completely right, you shouldn't be allowed to ride a bike until you have some sort of safe riding course under your belt first.

Here (Ontario, Canada) they have a graduated licensing system, just like with the car driving. You have to get an M1 licence (written) good for 30 days
(except that you can go out now and buy the biggest, baddest, fastest bike and ride it, without ever having ridden before, who made that rule? The organ donation society?). Then you take a motorcycle safety course and if you pass then you get an M2 license (Good for 5 years apparently) But you eventually can apply for an M ( the last one and good until forever) after 12-18 months of riding but you have to do it with the ministry or you can do it through the motorcycle safety riding school.

Do you have something like that there in NZ?

What you are doing it great, if you already rode, how did it go?

L.L. Cool M
21st January 2006, 17:47
My first bike, a Kawasaki ZXR 250C, arrives on Monday the 23rd.
Assuming my 0% riding experience doesn't get me killed getting to the venue... I'm in.

Karma
21st January 2006, 17:56
Okey dokey. Time to update some details...

We're looking at running two speed groups on the ride, one at 100k for those that are comfortable, and a slower speed of 70ks for those who wish to do that instead.

Now comes the disclaimers... please realise that whilst myself and Gremlin are organising this ride we will not be held responsible in any way for any speeding tickets / fines you may incur as part of this ride... if riding at 100ks breaks your license conditions then it's your choice, sorry but gotta cover my ass...

Secondly... this is a group ride which we are organising to try and teach the newer riders some skills that will keep them on the road, if the worst should happen and you end up intimate with the road then we cannot be held liable for this either... common sense really.

So now all that guff is outta the way, I can relax and get some more preparations in place. :2thumbsup

I see a lot of people have registered to go, and frankly I hardly know any of you, therefore if you could just drop me a short PM with some details;

1. Skill level - Trainer / Learner / Just along for the ride
2. If you're volunteering to be a trainer, do you know the route enough to lead a small group, or would you prefer to be tail end charlie to keep an eye and point out any mistakes / areas for improvement.
2b. If you're a learner then which speed group would you be comfortable in (this is not final and can be changed during the day if you're having problems)

Excellent... once I've got an idea of this information we'll see how many groups we need and of what size.

That'll be all :D

Leong
21st January 2006, 20:04
My first bike, a Kawasaki ZXR 250C, arrives on Monday the 23rd.
Assuming my 0% riding experience doesn't get me killed getting to the venue... I'm in.

Hi there,
Congrats on the new bike!! Hope you'll get lots of practice in before next weekend. I did my first miles in Dannemora - there are lots of good cul de sacs you can practice in to get your basic handling skills refined before adding the distraction of traffic. Without wanting to put a dampener on things.... group riding, ie other bikes, can also be a distraction, early on. So get out there and practice so you're ready for Sunday. I'm sure you'll learn a lot on Sunday ... and rides don't come any handier, than meeting at BP Chapel Road!!

If you don't have any riding friends yet, want to know some good quiet roads in our subdivision, or need any help, PM me ( ie. Send me a private message - click my name at the top left of this post etc ).... I'm at most 5 mins away

L.L. Cool M
21st January 2006, 22:13
Thank you for your welcome.

I have laboured many hours at work on mapping out a suitable track around Dannemora, which will be submitted to Dorna sometime next year. It will be an exhilarating GP where no-one will be allowed to change out of first gear, except for me, legendary founder of the track, who will be allowed to also use second. If by some chance, in one year I have stumbled upon third gear, then I will be allowed to use that and all other riders will be promoted to using second gear if they are willing to risk it.

I will endeavour to practise lots before next Sunday, but due to a possible flaw in my track design I may only know how to turn right and not left. No, my track does not consist solely of a roundabout.

Bloody good idea though.

Marmoot
22nd January 2006, 00:47
Hey Leong. You were doing a part of SH22 today?
Was that you we saw turning to 22 auckland-bound(coming from Rangiriri direction?)

mops
22nd January 2006, 08:27
Oh, great, I'm comming too, provided the weather isw good.

I'm a newbie rider, I'll start with 70kpg group, maybe I'll move to 100kph later.

i still need to get new tyre and oilchange... and some leathers...
It's my first meet with KB'ers.

I'll be going from sandringham, through greenlane and meadowbank, then through tirakau drive, if anydory want's to team up just to get there, I'm keen :)

Leong
22nd January 2006, 15:51
Hey Leong. You were doing a part of SH22 today?
Was that you we saw turning to 22 auckland-bound(coming from Rangiriri direction?)

If you meant yesterday sometime round 11am then yes... there was a group of bikes stopped on the left, where I turned right, ak bound. We did the Coro loop today!!

swanman
22nd January 2006, 20:58
I'd be interested. My tyres are shot so a slow ride would be good for me.

I am a bit upset with the number of accidents that I have been aware of recently. Including my own about a year ago.

So would be glad to pass on any tips that I may have.

Oh I have just seen the post about tell me who you are/expereince etc. 20 yrs riding and still alive!

Devil
23rd January 2006, 08:32
30,000km experience here. Mainly along for the ride with the pillion, but happy to give pointers where required.

myvice
23rd January 2006, 18:47
Would love to tag along.

Gremlin
24th January 2006, 02:31
Just set up a reconnaissance ride for the Saturday, day before the actual ride for learners. This ride will not be for newbies, but if you wish to help out, by doing the route before hand, you might be able to help by leading a group on the day.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=23551

I'm currently trying to make a map of the entire route, hoping to get it up sometime later on tonight.

aff-man
24th January 2006, 08:23
I might come along the reconisance ride.. and maybe the real thing...

I'm only a noooooooooooooob so please Mr Gremlin can you train me.....

we'll see what strikes my fancy this weekend...

Patch
24th January 2006, 16:57
hoping to get it up sometime later on tonight.

Ummmmm, :shit: don't think I can help you with that . . . . .

But I'm sure someone might offer ya somethin' :rofl:

if all else fails :tugger:


:killingme :killingme :killingme

coastchick
24th January 2006, 17:12
new to riding Harleys, but ridden jappas 10 years ago, been motorbike postie for 12 years.....just the harley bit I gotta get used to...lol...probably start in the 70 group...

Gremlin
24th January 2006, 18:29
I'm only a noooooooooooooob so please Mr Gremlin can you train me.....
naah, no-one can help you, try John Wright :lol:

There always has to be one, eh Patch?? Stop ruining our thread, and for your info, I just got it up (the map) :bleh:

Attached is the whole route as a jpg, had to zip it, because it is slightly over the piccy limits. There are "S" on the map, that would stand for a stop. I think all turns have been arrowed, if turns haven't, it should mean that that is the main road, ie, following the centre line, you'll be fine.

Took me 3 attempts, and close on to a full work day to do the 3 tries (shoulda got buggy or sniper to do it :msn-wink: )

aff-man
24th January 2006, 18:34
naah, no-one can help you, try John Wright :lol:

There always has to be one, eh Patch?? Stop ruining our thread, and for you info, I just got it up :bleh:

Attached is the whole route as a jpg, had to zip it, because it is slightly over the piccy limits. There are "S" on the map, that would stand for a stop. I think all turns have been arrowed, if turns haven't, it should mean that that is the main road, ie, following the centre line, you'll be fine.

Took me 3 attempts, and close on to a full work day to do the 3 tries (shoulda got buggy or sniper to do it :msn-wink: )

so...... can i come play??

Karma
24th January 2006, 18:37
so...... can i come play??

I'm sure you can play with Gremlin... I heard he's VERY open-minded...

Scouse
24th January 2006, 18:41
Attached is the whole route as a jpg, had to zip it, because it is slightly over the piccy limits. There are "S" on the map, that would stand for a stop. I think all turns have been arrowed, if turns haven't, it should mean that that is the main road, ie, following the centre line, you'll be fine.

Took me 3 attempts, and close on to a full work day to do the 3 tries (shoulda got buggy or sniper to do it :msn-wink: )

Hey Gremlin I was gonna print off a copy of the map because I thought it might help me till I opend up the file and thought nah I'll have to be flying at 30,000ft to use that :-)

Gremlin
24th January 2006, 18:54
Hey Gremlin I was gonna print off a copy of the map because I thought it might help me till I opend up the file and thought nah I'll have to be flying at 30,000ft to use that :-)
:rofl: What do you need??

The map is already over 3500x3500, so detail was going to be hard, but it is zoomed in enough to have road names etc.

Come on the saturday ride if you want to see the route.

edit: aff-man, go play with Quartida, you'll end up with less bruises

Scouse
24th January 2006, 19:07
:rofl: What do you need??

The map is already over 3500x3500, so detail was going to be hard, but it is zoomed in enough to have road names etc.

Come on the saturday ride if you want to see the route.

edit: aff-man, go play with Quartida, you'll end up with less bruises

Sorry Gremlin didn't realise that I could zoom in DUH but its ok now the penny has droped

Cheers
Steve

Gremlin
24th January 2006, 19:09
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah, didn't the size of the file give it away?? :killingme

Scouse
24th January 2006, 19:16
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah, didn't the size of the file give it away?? :killingme

Hah..................

Scouse
24th January 2006, 19:16
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah, didn't the size of the file give it away?? :killingme

Nah...........

boomer
24th January 2006, 19:16
if all else fails :tugger:


:killingme :killingme :killingme

I'm busy!



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Will
24th January 2006, 21:41
:spudwave:

Attended our Ulysses/ACC meeting this morning. The outcome is that our introductory flyers/cards should be ready by the end of this week. They explain a bit about an offer that Ulysses and ACC have put together for Basic Training and Refresher Training, with a discount of $20.00

What say I bring 'em along on Sunday for anyone who might be interested.

They are being printed as I type, so I should have 'em on Friday. Cutting it fine , I know but fingers crossed that I'll have 'em in time.:2thumbsup

Philenstein
24th January 2006, 21:49
Thinking of a CBD meeting in Auckland domain (or thereabouts) at about 9ish maybe, then pick up some others out at westgate or over at takapuna, depending on which way round we go.

Does anyone who knows where they're going want to meet at Auckland domain and go straight to Botany downs BP ? (If not it doesn't matter - I will find my way regardless, but it'd make it easier if I didn't need to...)

Karma
24th January 2006, 21:52
Sure bring em along, no worries.

[quote=Philenstein]anyone who knows where they're going want to meet at Auckland domain

Bit outta my way really... but a few people will be coming through the CBD and should be able to meet you somewhere.

:yes:

metric
24th January 2006, 22:01
Does anyone who knows where they're going want to meet at Auckland domain and go straight to Botany downs BP ? (If not it doesn't matter - I will find my way regardless, but it'd make it easier if I didn't need to...)

meet where at Auckland Domain at what time? could be keen...

Philenstein
24th January 2006, 22:37
meet where at Auckland Domain at what time? could be keen...
maybe the carpark in front of the museum if that would suit ? maybe about 9 ? how long would it take to get to botany downs from there ?

NhuanH
24th January 2006, 22:42
Y'all realise that the Kaiaua GP (clockwise version) is hallowed Jandal country? Please remember to provide appropriate worship as you pass Jandal CornerTM.

Or it may rise from it's slumber and slap you round the back of your head...

aff-man
24th January 2006, 22:50
Y'all realise that the Kaiaua GP (clockwise version) is hallowed Jandal country? Please remember to provide appropriate worship as you pass Jandal CornerTM.

Or it may rise from it's slumber and slap you round the back of your head...

I have already made my sacrafice :crybaby::crybaby:

Mr Skid
24th January 2006, 22:59
Please remember to provide appropriate worship as you pass Jandal CornerTM.And be certain to wear appropriate footwear, lest you highside.

NhuanH
24th January 2006, 23:01
And be certain to wear appropriate footwear, lest you highside.
that'd be the Titanium Slider equipped Racing Jandal?

SlowHand
25th January 2006, 12:23
Would that be a Tandal?
Sheet this is getting too serious. Time for a joke.

How many weasels does it take to go around a roundabout without jandalling?

Karma
25th January 2006, 12:30
HHmmm... :angry2:

Just make sure you give me enough room on the old roundaboots...

Don't make me get my Jandals out!!

mops
25th January 2006, 12:31
um, uh... what's this jandal thing all about ? i dont get it....

Karma
25th January 2006, 12:42
Long story...

Fishy
25th January 2006, 12:45
Hey Weasel whats the story if the weather is shite this weekend mate? The ride still gonna happen? I can't imagine many nooob riders being to keen on riding long distance in the rain...

Karma
25th January 2006, 12:52
Keeping an eye on the weather... supposed to clear up for the weekend so should be sweet...

If weather is bad will probably just knock it back a week to the 5th or something...

two dozen learners plus rain plus twisties isn't something I wanna try.

Not meeting until 10ish to make sure to check on here in the morning for a status report.

Marmoot
25th January 2006, 13:20
Long story...

I have time....

mops
25th January 2006, 13:46
Long story...

come on ! dont leave us hanging like that :) :psst:

NhuanH
25th January 2006, 14:14
um, uh... what's this jandal thing all about ? i dont get it....
You don't go looking for tha Jandal- it chooses you.

Mr Skid
25th January 2006, 15:10
<img src=http://media.teamxbox.com/games/ss/1094/1130790858.jpg>
"Stop trying to jandal me and jandal me!"

SlowHand
25th January 2006, 16:29
two dozen learners plus rain while playing twister isn't something I wanna try.


Surely the rain would reduce the friction?

Will
27th January 2006, 17:43
:spudwave:

Attended our Ulysses/ACC meeting this morning. The outcome is that our introductory flyers/cards should be ready by the end of this week. They explain a bit about an offer that Ulysses and ACC have put together for Basic Training and Refresher Training, with a discount of $20.00

What say I bring 'em along on Sunday for anyone who might be interested.

They are being printed as I type, so I should have 'em on Friday. Cutting it fine , I know but fingers crossed that I'll have 'em in time.:2thumbsup


:Oops:

I think I spoke too soon. Just had word that the printers have had a mechanical breakdown and the flyers wont be ready till next week.

Have fun and take care out there

Phenoix
27th January 2006, 20:19
Im heading from Avondale, into the city to pick up 1 or 2 people and then onwards.
If people want to meet up in the city, Domain ect, PM so I know who and how many to wait for,
Just as a note tho, if its raining, I wont be a riding due to not having a rain coat :violin:
it only takes about 20-30mins to reach Botany downs if your doing a desent speed, ie the LEGAL road speed limit, maybe with a bit of lane splitting if traffics around.

Marmoot
27th January 2006, 20:25
11 pages to organize one ride......... :wacko:

Gremlin
27th January 2006, 21:24
11 pages to organize one ride......... :wacko:
and some wacko's to hijack and increase the number of posts :msn-wink:

oh crap... ummm

here's hoping the weather is good, seems to be :2thumbsup

boomer
27th January 2006, 21:38
and some wacko's to hijack and increase the number of posts :msn-wink:

oh crap... ummm

here's hoping the weather is good, seems to be :2thumbsup

who you callin whacko Kermit?


Have a good ride guys

Phenoix
28th January 2006, 08:39
Does anyone have a free back seat going for this ride.
I've got a mate who wouldnt mind taging along, but he lacks an essential thing, a bike.
he's got helmet, gloves and jacket tho. (Any one got spare pants for a 6f2 92cm waist guy ?)
theres probably some petrol money involved to the one that does to either question.
Pillion on the back of a 250, doesnt just cut it. :oi-grr:

MGST
28th January 2006, 09:27
Sorry just to clarify, should us newbies be having L plates on and chance it that there are no cops?

Phenoix
28th January 2006, 13:27
That choice can only be made by you.
Read the disclaimer as posted previous in post.
I know a few people that use their L's to hide there plates :not:
But unless you want to risk a $400 for lack of a crappy peice of plastic, ride with L's and dont go over 70K's :whistle:

stify
28th January 2006, 13:47
11 pages to organize one ride......... :wacko:

we should have a sweep on the number of "after the ride" pages :p

mops
28th January 2006, 16:24
I just realized 4 and rotary nationals is on the same day. I really wanted to come along, but I just cant miss rotary nationals :(

really sad both cool events are happening on the same day :brick: :brick: :brick:

oh well... I'll join you guys next time :)

.

Gremlin
28th January 2006, 17:01
Sorry just to clarify, should us newbies be having L plates on and chance it that there are no cops?
Completely up to you. When I was a learner I rode at 100 with the L on at all times. Never got pulled up, but that was me.

If there are people that want it, we will be running both 100km/h and 70km/h groups. Its up to you as to which speed you want to do.

If you want to ride at 70, it would be nice to have the L on, because then the motorists behind can see whats going on.

Balding Eagle
28th January 2006, 18:46
I am really looking forward to the ride. It is the wife's birthday and she is going out buying beads with my sister. Any idea of the duration of the event? The weather forecast looks fabulous. I got my full L just before Christmas and I am keen to continue the learning process. Still got my 250 but keen to chat to others about the pros and cons of some of the bigger bikes.

Gremlin
28th January 2006, 18:47
Due to my ride today, we have found that, while there is the odd loose stone, the section of road from Whitford to Brookby has now been sealed, meaning we can use it. The tight corners coming into Kawakawa have also been resealed, awesome.

This only changes the last section of the route. We will still be coming back to Clevedon, and using Twilight Rd. But then we will turn right, and head back to Whitford, instead of Brookby, Alfriston etc.

We changed because:
1. Easier route for group leaders
2. Shorter distance for learners - when learning, you get tired quickly.

The stop on Lyons Rd, next to Paparimu rd (near Mangatiwhiri) has been moved to a gravel space right next to SH2. Turning off SH2, the stop will be right there.

All other details remain unchanged.

Leong
28th January 2006, 18:48
I just realized 4 and rotary nationals is on the same day. I really wanted to come along, but I just cant miss rotary nationals :(

really sad both cool events are happening on the same day :brick: :brick: :brick:

oh well... I'll join you guys next time :)

.

Sharpen your riding skills a bit and you won't be interested in those 4 wheels anymore......

Signed
Converted Petrolhead of 30yrs

PS: Cars cost a lot more, depreciate more, and ultimately less of a challenge - Really really wish I'd started riding sooner!!

Gremlin
28th January 2006, 18:50
Duration of the event is slightly unknown. Factors such as traffic, speed of groups (ie, if we run a 70 group, it will change the timing) and length of stops make it difficult. No-one will be left behind, and all groups will be accounted for at the major stops.

Ride should finish approximately mid afternoon. About 3-4 pm. But it could finish a bit earlier.

Karma
28th January 2006, 20:29
Just a quick note from personal experience...

Sun index is real high at the moment, got some red patches on my arms today despite not being out for long.

Those of fair complexion, or who burn easy would be advised to either take some sun screen or cover up during rest stops.

That will be all.

Edit - Not quite all....

If anyone wants my mobile number in case they get lost / whatever them PM me and I'll hand it out. Can't go posting it here because it may get picked up by the likes of Poos ;)

Karma
29th January 2006, 07:53
OK Folks... just had a butchers outside, weather is fine, not too hot and with a slight breeze.

We are good to go.

See you all at BP at 10.

DirtMad
29th January 2006, 15:35
Was the cruise a good success / turnout today? I just read this thread, and I rekon , this is an awesome idea! (I just wish the timing was right for me to have come along - no road bike yet)
Hopefully another one will be planned :brick:

Pillick
29th January 2006, 15:47
shit. This was a good idea. Will keep an eye out for the next one. Hope it all went well, how many attended?

boomer
29th January 2006, 15:52
I think they're all around at Tristan's havin a Barbie; Sounded like they had an awesome day.. huge turn out.. Pics of the meet are in my Photo Gallery if your interested.. well done u boys :banana:

Pics (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=304)


If you'd like some details added to any of the photo's; please pm me with the photo number and what you want added

Grizz
29th January 2006, 16:01
Congratulations to Weasel and Gremlin for putting this together. A great idea turned into a great event. A real succsess. :clap:

I don't know the final count but I think it was just under the 40 mark.

Well done to all those that turned up, from Newbies to the more exprienced riders. I was really impressed with the level of co-operation from such a large group of people.

It was a pleasure riding with you all. :woohoo:

Leong
29th January 2006, 16:37
Yes, a great event... Thanks Weasel and Gremlin. Had a good mix of conditions, including some wet roads, but not enough to get uncomfortably wet (IMO anyway). I think the number and spacing of stops worked out just right too. Well done.

Fireproof, Nicksta, Monzta - You all did very well, riding safely with confidence and within your abilities. But best improver of the day would have to be Weasel's brother (sorry, didn't get your login name). It's tough getting confidence back after an incident, but you got better and better as the day progressed.

Thanks Phil from Riderskills for coming along and helping out. It seems the advice you gave was the same as mine.... and there's nothing like positive reinforcement from a professional like yourself. Thank you.

Edit: I just realised that weekends are probably your busiest work times, so a special thank you for giving up the income!!

Good to meet a few more KB'er - Would have liked to meet you Phurrball.... were you there?

deathstar
29th January 2006, 17:38
wise man once say " more then 40 people turned up and no one crashed" and i even managed to get above 70

Karma
29th January 2006, 18:06
Well folks... good ride... good people.

Massive thanks to the instructors and tail end charlies... this would not have been possible without such a lot of people giving up their time to help out.

Big up to Gremlin for actually knowing here he's going.

Thanks to Rayza for getting some pics (which I imagine will be posted up later).

Big thanks to RiderSkills... this guy does this kinda thing for a living and yet still found time to come out today, I recommend him for anyone that needs a little 1 on 1 training.

Didn't get to speak to everyone today, and those that I did I probably forgot your name as soon as I walked off... so I'll just thank everyone for taking it easy and managing not to crash!

I had a good day today, and knowing that people took new skills / advice from the experience made it all worthwhile. :D

aff-man
29th January 2006, 18:09
Well woke up this morning at 10:30 (learning from the master ah gremlin) And though meh got nothing better to do so i might go meet some new peoples.

Got to the BP at 11:15 and got told the bikes had left 45 mins earlier (which turned out to be bullshit) so put a move on and caught up to the group in clevedon. Was more interested in meeting people so i just had some fun out the front.

Thanks for letting me tag along guys and thanks to rayza for keeping me company (even if you were riding gremlins devil bike)

See ya all out there

raster
29th January 2006, 18:47
Fantastic day, I am sorry I had to leave at Mangatawhari, Thanks to Balding Eagle for our leading and to all other riders for making it a successfull day, Thumbs up to all who assisted.

Back Fire
29th January 2006, 18:53
Thanks for letting me tag along guys and thanks to rayza for keeping me company (even if you were riding gremlins devil bike)

See ya all out there

bloody good fun riding with you man, maybe again sometime when I am on my own bike. Wont be to slow, not being on a SUV and all :shifty:

Phenoix
29th January 2006, 19:12
It was a good ride.
No bins or nothing, but there were a few close calls, mainly with taking corners wide and crossing centre line.
Thanks to Weasel and Gremlin for sorting it all out,
I belive their going to do a Wellsford next :spudflip:

Fishy
29th January 2006, 20:02
Good stuff everybody,

Seems everyone had a pretty good day and hopefully helped a few people out with getting a bit of experience on the open road and building confidence.

Any newbies that are keen on getting out on more rides don't be hesitant about coming along on KB rides, you won't be alone!.

There is a ride out to Port Waikato on Thursday the 2nd of Feb that I have organised so feel free to tag along if you want.

Thanks to Weasel and Gremlin, good job guys! Bout time someone did something like this!. Top marks fellas.

Catch you some time soon...

Fishslayer

N4CR
29th January 2006, 21:35
Ahh.. good day people, nice to meet some new faces.

I played tail end charlie for one of the 100k groups.. Mint sounding Hyosung 250, fhartstorm thou ;) speed four and a zzr400. Paul you did a great job leading on the hornet - great pace, nice to see it picked up a little to the end so you judged it well. And good to see you guys getting that apexing right! Congratulations - you all did well.

THanks weasel and gremlin for organising it.

And thanks to me for the little barbie meet up :crazy:

[size=1] and after riding that 7r.. my bike feels like a pushbike damnit. 10 more months.. good one gremlin lol)

edit: thanks for coming along riderskills... I will be sending a few keen new bikers your way via the web !

Sparky
29th January 2006, 21:43
Great to see everybody made it home safe. Jaybe and I tagged along untill Clevedon. Had our own plans for the afternoon. Soon after leaving Clevedon the heavens opened up and I got soaked.
Gave up my plans and went home instead (chicken I know). I thought of all the newbies on a wet and twisty road and figured there might be some nervous moments. But by the sound of it all went well, great job guys well done.
Anyway i took some pics at the meeting point so if interested have a look here:

http://community.webshots.com/album/546858908QoAhdV

aff-man
29th January 2006, 21:43
Ahh.. good day people, nice to meet some new faces.



[size=1] and after riding that 7r.. my bike feels like a pushbike damnit. 10 more months.. good one gremlin lol)

What the hell!!!! even you got to ride it...... For some reason he doesn't trust me :innocent: :innocent:


OOOOO look at that sexy bike.... though i can't see any tread???

N4CR
29th January 2006, 22:22
What the hell!!!! even you got to ride it...... For some reason he doesn't trust me :innocent: :innocent:


Yeah wonder why :P

I think it is like the town bicycle or something now :buggerd:

Nicksta
29th January 2006, 22:57
Thank you very much to Weasel and Gremlin for organising today, it was heaps of fun and great to get out and learn some new skills and ride with others...


Fireproof, Nicksta, Monzta - You all did very well, riding safely with confidence and within your abilities.

thanks Heaps Leong for leading us.... and Zrxer for following up behind keeping us all together......
Also special mention to Patch for meeting Kels and I at westgate before hand...cheers

i think the day was a huge success, look forward to seeing the pics.... thanks heaps again all involved....:first: :not:

Philenstein
30th January 2006, 01:21
Thanks to everyone that came yesterday, I really enjoyed it and feel I learned a lot from riding with you all. Special thanks to Weasel and Gremlin for organising it, Phil from riderskills - thanks a lot for the great tips, I will endeavour to include all that in my riding from now on. Also thanks to Kelly (giving me the same tips as ridersafe :)). Thanks to all the people behind me at anytime during the day (for your patience !) I will definitley be interested in future outings like this. It was invaluable !

PS. Whoever the guys that I followed to Botany BP - Thanks heaps too !

N4CR
30th January 2006, 03:39
PS. Whoever the guys that I followed to Botany BP - Thanks heaps too !

Was myself, Weasel (and his brother.. forget the kbr name!) and 'Johnbanks'.
I was happy to see you improve greatly throughout the day matey! (and remember what I said about practising in a carpark... the Saint Kentigern College and Tamaki University ones are close and very good for that sort of stuff) You did very well and when I see stuff like that happen it makes these rides all worth it in the end. Seems you live close to GI too eh? I'm in meadowank ;)

If you need tips/help just give me a private message any time.

raster
30th January 2006, 12:26
Got some fairly good photos, hard part is working out who everyone is :brick:

Back Fire
30th January 2006, 12:50
Got some fairly good photos, hard part is working out who everyone is :brick:

why did your camera mutilate gremlins green machine?

Gremlin
30th January 2006, 13:36
why did your camera mutilate gremlins green machine?
*sniff* me poor bike, first Rayza raped it, then raster mutilated it... (I know, I know, the merge isn't quite accurate :lol:)

A massive thank you to all of you who came out. Without the learners, we would have had a pointless ride, without the instructors we would have had no advice for the learners. Without the leaders and pointers (one of whom... well... rode my bike more than I rode his :whistle: ) people would have got lost.

A special thank you to Phil (www.riderskills.co.nz) who came out on his own time to offer free advice to some of the learners.

Phenoix said there were some close shaves, but we had no bins, despite the weather playing a few underhanded tricks.

My pics (well, Rayza on my camera... and my bike) are in my gallery (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=305). If they are good, rep me, if bad, blame rayza :rofl: Not to mention, 2 particular pointers having a load of fun photographing themselves, while a worried owner was wondering where the hell his bike was...

It seems everyone had a good time, and Weasel and I will probably try to run one bi-monthly, next up we are thinking probably Wellsford.

thealmightytaco
30th January 2006, 16:55
Yeah, champion day out. I should've said hello to more people, but I'll do that next time, when I don't feel like such a newbie tard, which is what it's all about.

And a big cheers to SpankMe for giving our group a little passing practise, was superb. By the end of the day I went straight down the centre line between a bastard Corolla and an oncoming Mitsi. Sounds dangerous, but I could!

Fishy
30th January 2006, 19:15
Yeah, champion day out. I should've said hello to more people, but I'll do that next time, when I don't feel like such a newbie tard, which is what it's all about.

And a big cheers to SpankMe for giving our group a little passing practise, was superb. By the end of the day I went straight down the centre line between a bastard Corolla and an oncoming Mitsi. Sounds dangerous, but I could!

You did very well thealmightytaco I saw that corolla incident and you made the right choice to back off the first time and wait for a safer place to pass. Was very impressed with the newbies in my group (thealmightytaco/kels/johnbanks) your guys lines and corner speed and position on the road was really good!.

Keep at it and remember - Rubber side down :ride:

raster
30th January 2006, 19:36
why did your camera mutilate gremlins green machine?

Cheap stitching cause I'm too tight to pay for a better stitching program.

I was hoping to get a photo of me on the bike, I seem to only be half there in each photo, even the photo my brother attempted to get are only half there, must have been too fast for him :rofl:

John Banks
30th January 2006, 20:43
Awesome day out. Had lots of fun and it was great meeting everyone. Unfortunately I stuffed up with the uploading of pictures... they're in there, but under General or summat. Bugger.

oldguy
30th January 2006, 23:17
Thanks to Weasel and Gremlin, for a great ride, I even learn't somthing, that you can ride a sportbike at the speed limit (100kp/h) and enjoy the ride,
thanks to Balding Eagle for leading our group, set a nice pace at the start so everyone settled in quickly and pointed out hazards along the way.also thanks to Tristank for keeping an eye on use from the rear of our group, good to know their is someone their should anything go wrong, or just some advise on improving our riding tec. Hope those yoshi's weren't too in your face
They say you meet nice people on motorcycle, and this event held true to that,
if you needed help with anything, their was always some there to help you
Big Thanks Again Guys.

raster
30th January 2006, 23:32
great to meet you Oldguy, yes I could hear your Yoshi's behind me all the way to kaiawa.

Who was on the Hyosung???

Balding Eagle
31st January 2006, 08:47
The Hyosung was Yellowstreak, so he told me. Hey guys, I had a great day out. Went with the intention of learning bike skills and learnt that there are a lot of neat people out riding bikes. Joined KB just a couple of weeks ago after I spoke to Gremllin and Rayza at Botany BP. They had obviously been out trying out the track for this weekend.

It is my intention to continue with these rides. Neat people, neat ride. Regrettably we spent too much time chewing the fat at the stops and the Balding ended up looking like a cooked cray on top. It still hurts. Must get one of those hats that Spank had. VERY practical and sensible.

Old Guy, Raster, Yellowstreak, Adamww and Tristank - Thanks for the company. And to everyone else - Many thanks for a great afternoon (on my wife's birthday).:niceone: :ride:

kels
31st January 2006, 10:11
There may be a thread already up with regards to this ride but I couldn't find it. Just wanted to say a big thank you to all that arranged this wonderful day for us newbies and also to Tristank for the BBQ back at his place!

It was great to meet you all and I really can't wait to ride with you all again :niceone:

Fishy
31st January 2006, 10:17
Good riding Kels, was impressed with your open road riding skills. Good lines and position on the road. Keep at it!. Was a good day, I will definitely be in for the next one.

Phurrball
31st January 2006, 17:40
(snip)Good to meet a few more KB'er - Would have liked to meet you Phurrball.... were you there?

As the Murphy's Law would have it I was engaged picking up a friend from the airport in the early afternoon, so I coudn't make the ride. :( :no: :weep:

Pretty gutted I couldn't make it, but happy to catch up with my mate after his couple of years in the 'motherland'.

My name was registered on behalf of Mrs P, as she said she was keen, but on the day she was feeling a little 'feeblised' (Her word) and not up for a ride anywhere.

I have given her shite for missing such a great opportunity which I couldn't make myself...never mind. Next time eh?

In the interim I can be spotted in action doing the westie commute - hard to miss on my red Bandit, with my blue graphic Nitro helmet adorned with a ridiculous-but-fantastic yellow mohawk ;)

kels
31st January 2006, 21:51
Keep at it and remember - Rubber side down :ride:
Was great to meet you Fishslayer just want to thank you very much for your support and also your words of wisdom. I feel much more confident about cornering in the wet.
Cheers :2thumbsup

oldguy
31st January 2006, 22:18
Hi, just thought I,d try and upload some pic,s I took on the ride.

L.L. Cool M
2nd February 2006, 08:45
Just like to add to the swelling in the organisers' pants (well okay, not really) and say thanks for organising the training day.

I had my first bike for less than a week before the ride and put only 57km on it. At the end of the rider training I had gone downhills [applause], been in the rain, gone over 100km/hr, and had put 237km on it. Was a tremendous day. Bike riding is good. Gang bike riding is great. Gang banging, I'm still unsure of.

I don't recall anyone from group one having near spills or going over the center line, so I would like to award group one with the coveted 'Riders of the Day' special plaque. As a member of group one, I would like to accept the award on behalf of everyone in the group, and give thanks to my sponsers, my family and all the supporters watching at home.

Incidentally this guy was taking photos of my ass all day. Should I be worried about him? Does he do this all the time? Should I call the Ass Police?
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/gallery/displayimage.php?album=304&pos=8

Karma
2nd February 2006, 09:59
Was good to have you out there.

Don't worry about Boomer taking ass pics, he's just looking to put the other B in his group ABA just doesn't cut it...

Next ride is being planned already, more details as they come.

Neomancer
5th February 2006, 22:44
Great idea:msn-wink: too late for me though :weep: Me and my beloved RF900 got bowled by a CBS Bus in Christchurch last month, bummer really it was a nice bike.

metric
6th February 2006, 11:22
yup
gutted couldn't make it

def keen for the next one...