View Full Version : I know it may be a bad idea
Sniper
11th January 2006, 20:14
But Im hoping some of you might be able to help.
The doc, parents, girlfriend, boss and everyone else say I MUST stay off the bike for at least 2 weeks and afterwards at least another week before I have to take it gentle.:eyepoke: Anyway, I have proved to myself that at the moment with a bucket load of pain I can operate the clutch. Just so you know, I have never been scared of pain or injury, I am not trying to be hard, I just want to ride my bike.
I understand that for at least a week Im not to be on the bike, but surely after that? Whats a good idea? Stay off or risk it?
I want to hear from those who may have had this "problem" before.
BTW, its my scaphoid bone that is broken in half, or crushed, they can't tell. In my opinion, its not serious, I have another arm. The doctors tell me that if I have crushed the bone, they will need to operate.
crashe
11th January 2006, 20:20
Stay off the bike until the Doctor gives you the all clear...
Long term - if you dont you may end up with a farked hand FOREVER.
Short term - you are in pain and the hand is farked at the moment.
So what do you want to risk - your ego or never ride a bike again unless you are in total pain.
What is a few weeks off the bike mate... that is nothing compared to others who are not allowed to ride for months or never again.
PS: I wasnt allowed to ride for 5 -6 weeks when I had the carpel tunnel op or fark it up for good.
I also wasnt allowed to ride for 8 weeks after my hysterectomy..
if I did i would do damage to my insides for life...
I wasnt willing to risk that... so I did as the doctor so ordered.
But at the end of the day it is your choice... and only your choice...
I hope that you will be sensible and make the correct choice.
nudemetalz
11th January 2006, 20:21
Personally, Dude, I would be listening to the doc first and everyone else second. I've had many broken bones and I know how frustrating it can get.
Doc's do err on the side of caution, but you don't want to do more (possibly irrepairable damage), do you.
boomer
11th January 2006, 20:24
I wonder what the Doc would advise..?? I'm sure if it were Rossi he'd say go for it sunny :whistle:
hXc
11th January 2006, 20:27
Just stay off for a couple of weeks mate. I know it's ghey and all but a screwed arm/wrist/hand is even more ghey
MacD
11th January 2006, 20:34
BTW, its my scaphoid bone that is broken in half, or crushed, they can't tell. In my opinion, its not serious, I have another arm. The doctors tell me that if I have crushed the bone, they will need to operate.
I broke my scaphoid bone many years ago. After several weeks in plaster I was given the OK. So guess what, a few weeks later I was mucking about at school and tripped over and put my hand out to stop me falling...and broke the bone again! Another few weeks in plaster... :doh:
Evidently the scaphoid doesn't heal well and can even degenerate leaving you with a permanently knackered wrist. Google scaphoid for lots of links.
Kickaha
11th January 2006, 20:35
I want to hear from those who may have had this "problem" before.
BTW, its my scaphoid bone that is broken in half, or crushed, they can't tell. In my opinion, its not serious, I have another arm. The doctors tell me that if I have crushed the bone, they will need to operate.
Fell off in race one and broke my schapoid (didn't realise) got back on finished third, did two more races for the day and got it looked at a day later
the only thing that makes it awkward riding is the angle they set it at although I could get my gloves on over it
dunno what kind of op they would do unless it's a bone graft, which a guy I know had done on his
bad bone to break,look after it and make sure it heals properly, if you think it's not serious you a lot stupider than you appear as it can cause problems later on, do a search and do some reading on it
Scorpygirl
11th January 2006, 20:36
It's your choice mate... as everyone has a choice. :crazy: But I would advise against it. What if you were riding then suddenly got a heap of pain you couldn't handle it any more and let go...... end of story, morning glory. You think you may be strong but pain can be so severe that the mind takes over.
Think about it, what's three weeks so to speak as to a life time or more.
Please just my 2 cents.
2much
11th January 2006, 20:37
Well the way I see it, if it's already broken/crushed then what have you got to lose?
Fuck it, go hard, do whatever you want to do. You're only gonna use it when you shift down anyway. Just take a couple of pain killers and go for a blat...... Especially if you have surgery, cause then you'll be off it for a while.
I went down the luge in Vegas with a broken neck.... Here for a good time, not a long time!:Punk:
James Deuce
11th January 2006, 20:39
Scaphoid bones have THE worst blood supply of just about any bone in the body. Do not overuse your hand, do not put any weight on your wrist. Don't lift, hit or put pressure on it. It will take six to eight weeks to knit a fragile connection between halves, if it is only in two. If you need an operation you will probably need more than oneas they will have to re-break the bone until it fits in the space it is supposed to go in without limiting the movement of your wrist or damaging your radial nerve.
Don't just listen to the doctor, open up Google and do some research on scaphoid fractures and helping them heal. You're a clever guy, you figure out a treatment programme in partnership with your physician. He/she isn't God and can't fix it for you without your help and full attention. A scaphoid break is usually more hassle than a clean fracture of a major limb bone. Take it easy.
jahmin
11th January 2006, 20:40
I would probably keep off the bike for fear that it my hinder your ability to make an emergency stop or react the same as you would normally be able to...
And like the others say, you dont really want to have a screwed arm for the rest of your life :nono:
robnz
11th January 2006, 20:42
Evidently the scaphoid doesn't heal well and can even degenerate leaving you with a permanently knackered wrist. Google scaphoid for lots of links.
they dont heal well at all. A mate of mine got run of the road on his mountain bike in england by car in 1993. broke the scaphoid. continued travelling around europe. when he came back to NZ they took the cast off. X-ray showed the bone never healed so he spend another 6 weeks in a cast. its rooted now and he still feels it in the winter time
Karma
11th January 2006, 20:43
Who cares about you? Think about everyone else...
What happens if you're concentrating on the pain and little Sue-Ellen runs out in the road ahead of you.
WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!
cowpoos
11th January 2006, 20:48
Stay off the bike until the Doctor gives you the all clear...
Long term - if you dont you may end up with a farked hand FOREVER.
Short term - you are in pain and the hand is farked at the moment.
won't fuck you hand forever at all....racers ride often with fully broken wrists...all you'll do if you have a incedent [emergency braking etc] is delay the healing for a while....but its your decision....and since you ride a honda it can't be that much fun riding anyway....so you should probally not ride for a bit eh?
Skunk
11th January 2006, 20:48
Stay off it. Ghey and all that I know.
Two guys I know ended up with surgery to repair the damage they did to their wrists by being 'hard men'.
I only know three guys who ride who have had broken wrists too. Not good odds.
Patch
11th January 2006, 20:49
Gidday Sniper,
Here's one for ya . . . Why do doctors spend seven or so years learning to practice medicine????????? :doctor:
A good mate of mine likes to showboat on his mountain bike :pinch: idiot was wheeling doing the look at me no hands when he fell off. :doh: he broke a bone in his wrist and had it in plaster for six weeks on ACC . . . Meanwhile he thought he'd perfect his no hands wheeling, fell off again, broke the same bone but in his other wrist. Now he had both wrists in plaster. :rofl:
Might sound funny, but by not listening to Doc's advice, he has had 2 operations on each wrist, 6 months of physio and is only just starting to get full rotation and movement after 18 months.
So really, what the hell do you think???? :weird: :weird:
cowpoos
11th January 2006, 20:53
man....shit bro thats good advice....how would you wank if you ended up like that? :buggerd:
Scorpygirl
11th January 2006, 20:59
A good mate of mine likes to showboat on his mountain bike :pinch: idiot was wheeling doing the look at me no hands when he fell off. :doh: he broke a bone in his wrist and had it in plaster for six weeks on ACC . . . Meanwhile he thought he'd perfect his no hands wheeling, fell off again, broke the same bone but in his other wrist. Now he had both wrists in plaster. :rofl:
Might sound funny, but by not listening to Doc's advice, he has had 2 operations on each wrist, 6 months of physio and is only just starting to get full rotation and movement after 18 months.
So really, what the hell do you think???? :weird: :weird:
Well said mate. :doctor: Sniper I think we are now gathering evidence to show if you get on that bike well.......:violin:
gman
11th January 2006, 21:05
do what im doing now and have been doing for the last two weeks.slowly pull all the shiney bits of it,polish em till the glow and put em back on.that way when you are able to ride itll look fantastic.btw im only just able to drive the auto cage as i can only just bend my leg now.the doc said if i bent my leg to much while its healing itll take longer .........fuck it.:doh: wheres my tools
Kickaha
11th January 2006, 21:07
won't fuck you hand forever at all....racers ride often with fully broken wrists...all you'll do if you have a incedent [emergency braking etc] is delay the healing for a while....but its your decision....and since you ride a honda it can't be that much fun riding anyway....so you should probally not ride for a bit eh?
Wont fuck it forever? well yes it can actually, do some reading on schapoid injuries and find out, I already know two people with problems as a result of them breaking it thats out of 7 people I know who have broken a schapoid
madmal64
11th January 2006, 21:20
3 weeks can seem like a bloody long time right now but trust me its not long in the big picture if it means that the wrist will give you a problem free "rest of your biking life".
Get the bike, clean it polish it, shine it, lube it and then when the time is right you will have an awesome looking bike and will be ready to roll
Oakie
11th January 2006, 21:38
If your mechanic glued something on your bike and then told you not to ride it for 24 hours while the glue hardened ... what would you do? Ride or wait 24 hours. Listen to your doc fella ... he's your body's mechanic.
Sniper
12th January 2006, 07:17
Thanks guys. Jim2, you make a good point. Maybe 2 weeks plus is a minature time vs years of pleasure.
Thanks again
Lou Girardin
12th January 2006, 07:20
Cut the cast off and go for it.
Doohan did, and you don't want a Aussie to be harder. Well, do ya?
Nah, just kidding. Do as you're told.
bungbung
12th January 2006, 07:27
I didn't realise that mine was broken until a couple of weeks ago. I had broken it 5 weeks earlier.
The break is between the two orange arrows.
My Doc said I could ride bicycles (with a cast), but don't fall off.
Don't do anything that hurts and you should be ok.
Fishy
12th January 2006, 07:37
Stay off the bike mate, 2 weeks will go bloody quickly. I had to stay off for 9 months (was on crutches for 9 months) and off work for 11 back in 1998 when I got hit by a car and busted my tib, fib, compound femur, compound radius and humerus all on the left side. Sucked majorly but had to do it. Take the docs advice mate you'll be better off for it.
Sniper
12th January 2006, 07:40
I hate doctors. Thanks for the pic Bungbung, mine is very grey so they cant tell if its crushed or just broken
Colapop
12th January 2006, 08:04
Hmm busted wrist, can't operate clutch properly, can't hold onto bike properly......
Do whatever you like. You're going to anyway.
IMO give it a couple of weeks. In the long - it's a couple of weeks, no big deal. If you ride in the short term and you're wearing a cast you run the risk of being dead. Moreso than usual coz of reduced grip capacity.
As I said, you're going to do whatever anyway.... Let's just hope we don't hear another "biker down" thread.
Madmax
12th January 2006, 09:49
mangled my whole wrist, 3 years on ACC i no longer have the proximal
row of bones in my wrist!!! 5 Ops
(schapoid bone grafts 2,2 screws,Pins 1)
the schapoid never did heel so in the end they just had to take
it out along with the rest,
as a result my right wrist is about half an inch shorter
than my left
dont piss about with it or you to can have pain for the rest of your life
Storm
12th January 2006, 10:20
Give it time to heal mate. Two weeks is sweet f a in the grand scheme of things
Deano
12th January 2006, 10:27
But Im hoping some of you might be able to help.
The doc, parents, girlfriend, boss and everyone else say I MUST stay off the bike for at least 2 weeks and afterwards at least another week before I have to take it gentle.:eyepoke: Anyway, I have proved to myself that at the moment with a bucket load of pain I can operate the clutch. Just so you know, I have never been scared of pain or injury, I am not trying to be hard, I just want to ride my bike.
I understand that for at least a week Im not to be on the bike, but surely after that? Whats a good idea? Stay off or risk it?
I want to hear from those who may have had this "problem" before.
BTW, its my scaphoid bone that is broken in half, or crushed, they can't tell. In my opinion, its not serious, I have another arm. The doctors tell me that if I have crushed the bone, they will need to operate.
Be careful with scaphoid injuries - I have heard the bone gets poor blood supply and can rot. Eeeew.
I broke my right arm years ago and carried on riding (GP125...wooohoo) - it was tricky and probably a little stupid but I managed. I had to twist the end of the throttle between my thumb and fingers and re-arrange my hand position when wanted to use the front brake.
yungatart
12th January 2006, 10:34
do as you are told!Or we'll break your other arm
Sniper
12th January 2006, 11:57
do as you are told!Or we'll break your other arm
Sorry, please don't tell MissSniper..... :bleh:
MissSniper
12th January 2006, 12:19
Sorry, please don't tell MissSniper..... :bleh:
hahahaha already found out. :laugh: :buggerd:
IMO i think the evidence speaks for itself, stay off the bike for two weeks i will even stay off mine as a kind gesture to you.
Sniper has to be the most accident prone person i know, after his last accident i had managed to keep him accident free for 7 and a bit months and then i go and fracture his scaphoid.................kinda defeates the purpose. :Oops:
yungatart
12th January 2006, 12:27
hahahaha already found out. :laugh: :buggerd:
i will even stay off mine as a kind gesture to you.
:
That is OTT- just go out for a wee pootle (taking his keys,of course) and return in a week or two and tell him all about your adventures. I'm sure he wouldn't stay off his bike if you were the one unable to ride..
MissSniper
12th January 2006, 12:31
true true, maybe ill change my mind once the weather clears up
Sniper
12th January 2006, 13:28
Go back to your study...
Patrick
12th January 2006, 13:39
Snapped mine clean in half playing rugby...continued the game and shook hands afterward and at the post match speeces etc etc...bloody sore.
Went out to a work do that night and the whole thing swelled right up and got my arm out of the jacket sleeve just in time so they didn't have to cut the jacket off...
Scaphoids have a shit blood supply... LET IT HEAL!!!!!!
Mine took ages, three plasters, bloody thing wouldn't knit together... ended up having surgery and now have a pin through it... works fine now and ya can make up stories about the scars, but... rather would have it mend on its own without surgery...
jazbug5
12th January 2006, 13:39
Good advice on here, listen to it and go and see a good hand specialist physio as soon as you can.
I broke my schaphoid twice, and did a lot of soft tissue/ligament damage into the bargain. At the time of the secong break I was training six days a week at boxing/thai boxing and didn't want to rest it as long as I should have. Just strapped it up when I re-strained it, that sort of thing. Doh!
Two months ago I decided it was time to go see the physio when someone handed me a book and I coldn't hold it- man that hurt! I haven't been able to punch pads or a bag for over a year now, and it SUCKS. Don't know if I ever will, either, even though I have a heap of exercises and stuff.
Don't be as stupid as me...
*sic
12th January 2006, 14:04
common sence screams at me in this case.. you know to listen to your body..
just suck it up and chill.
permenant injury = not the win
Kickaha
12th January 2006, 19:05
Thanks guys. Jim2, you make a good point. Maybe 2 weeks plus is a minature time vs years of pleasure.
Thanks again
Two weeks is nothing,I was in plaster for 8 weeks with mine and it was probably just about the same again until I had full strength and movement back once it was out of the cast
James Deuce
12th January 2006, 20:52
Yeah, two casts for me, one for 4 weeks, one for two, then a half cast for four, and then a sport support type elastic and velcro thing for a couple of months.
inlinefour
12th January 2006, 20:55
Stay off the bike. A few weeks is not much. However you don't want to regret it for the rest of your life do you???:doh:
Sniper
12th January 2006, 21:42
Guys, please dont scare me too much with the aftershocks. It pretty shitty being off the bike, but things happen for a reason, so hopefully its not too much of a biggie. Im just praying that its not crushed, I hate ops
James Deuce
12th January 2006, 21:45
That's nothing. You wait until you find out what she has planned for your testicles.
MissSniper: I want my half bricks back when you're finished.
Sniper
12th January 2006, 21:48
Thats not too nice. I guess Im gonna have to start sleeping with my eyes open :lol:
Colapop
13th January 2006, 11:56
Is there anyone here who hasn't broken their wrist? I got mine broken for me chucking a young feller out of a club when his mate jumped on me from behind. Didn't think it was much (a bit sore) so I wrapped some packing tape around it. Took it off the next day to reveal a football sized wrist. No lasting problems. I suppose it's a luck thing if it's f*cked up.
yungatart
13th January 2006, 12:10
That's nothing. You wait until you find out what she has planned for your testicles.
MissSniper: I want my half bricks back when you're finished.
I feel a Monty Python song coming on.....a rewrite of Eric The Half a Bee.....Sniper, The Half a Brick....:rofl:
Sniper
13th January 2006, 16:10
I prefer.... Sniper the Half Wit. Or is it I don't prefer that??
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