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Chipster
12th January 2006, 13:55
I just read some of the older threads about bikes getting impounded. Aye, pretty sad times. Back in the day when we used to ride 'freight train' style in the UK, we had a ploy that worked alot more than it failed for avoiding getting nicked at high speed. In our group of 8 riders, one guy would ride out on the pre-agreed route, going quickly, but not fast enough to get nicked. He'd ride for say 20 minutes, and then pull up at an agreed point. BUT, if during that time he saw a cop, he would turn around and head back the way he came. If you see him before you get to the agreed meeting point then you know there's a cop between you and the said meeting point. Worked well, you should see the cops' faces when 8 sportsbikes pass them doing EXACTLY the speed limit!!! Of course that was years ago and I'd NEVER DREAM of trying it here...

Karma
12th January 2006, 14:36
Would only work on a stationary copper...

If he was travelling towards you then the point man would have to pass him, then overtake, then speed away from the copper in order to reach you before he does.

Lou Girardin
12th January 2006, 15:15
You could ride 10 km's ahead and if you do see a tax man, bang off a flare. The wicked speeders will see the flare ahead and become non-wicked quickly.
Pat pending

Karma
12th January 2006, 15:17
Or you could had bike to bike radios... or a huge neon light... or... and this is a good one... you could slow down a tad?

Rashika
12th January 2006, 15:26
.. and this is a good one... you could slow down a tad?
nonsense! we dont do that around here...do we? :thud:

Chipster
12th January 2006, 15:57
This might be the wrong Forum for you Weasel. Try 'Online Trading' and flick the ZXR or 'Hogs and Other Cruisers'. :)

Just kidding.

It worked for us, and the other 400,000 sportsbikers over there. But you're right, it only worked on stationary coppers - which is what we encountered most, hiding behind a bush/rock/bridge with a radar gun. Passing a cop the other way never seemed to be a problem, and if it was, it was time to act like a shepherd and get the flock out of here...

Karma
12th January 2006, 16:37
Time and a place for everything, get the right time and place and there'll be no coppers to bother you ;)

Gremlin
12th January 2006, 17:23
nonsense! we dont do that around here...do we? :thud:
waaaaat?? who is irresponsible enough to speed. Enough of this talk, what would my mummy say?? :shit:

froggyfrenchman
12th January 2006, 17:30
Works a little diferent in our group. The "shock absorber"tm I always end up out the front goin like the proberbial bat. When any of the highway gather's are up ahead. They catch me .and the rest of the group slides past while the cop is distracted writing out my tickets:argh:

Karma
12th January 2006, 17:40
Ahh... the pilot fish method... excellent

Keeper
12th January 2006, 18:13
If you have a large enough group they will leave you alone full stop, we once went over the ranges in NSW at a little over the prescribed 100kph, there was two of us about 40 secs ahead of the rest, as we went around a sweeper a cop saw us and slammed on the brakes/flicked the roof lights, thats when he went out of my sight, being good boys we slowed a little to let him catch up, but the 10 bikes behind us said he was about to pull a u-turn, saw them, turned off the lights and drove off...

Maybe it is too hard to identify in a group that size/safely pass the non speeding bikes (another idea here is too takes ages to let him past to overtake the lead bike), or just sort of scramble the bikes up mixing them all up so they aren't sure of what bike was the culprit they radared/lasered...

Another way we were told by motorcycle cops themselves, is travel in larger groups, stagger your party left/right on the road and keep it as tight as safely possible so they cant identify the speeder.

sugilite
12th January 2006, 19:09
WTF, my entire post above just got completely changed by someone else? I thought there was some handy info there...if it is the moderator, please pm me with what the problem with it was??????

[edit] no problem, was an excellent post. I hit the wrong button![edit] OAB

sugilite
12th January 2006, 19:35
Aha, thanks for that moderator...here it is again :-)

It's been a long while since I've owned a road bike, but here is a list of things I would not recommend doing.....naturally, I never did any of these things countless times.

Never wear a reversible jacket of a different color on each side over your bright racer leathers.
Never carry rolls of different colored electrical tape in jacket pockets, a plainish helmet and plain painted race rep fairing (like black)
I certainly would not recommend doing a runner, turning off reversing the reversible jacket then laying lines of electrical tape over helmet and fairing to change appearance enabling you to pass the same fuzz 20 mins later with no probs, hell no. don't do it!
I also do not recommend you carry a map of unfamiliar roads you may be riding on or forced to turn into.

For the losers, oooppps I mean responsible people who do stop, They always seem to ask if you knew what speed you were doing, NEVER say you do, ALWAYS act very surprised, shocked, and a little dismayed, don't lay it on too thick. Always be courteous and respectful throwing in terms like "officer" and "sorry", if it's real serious, even "sir"....it works out cheaper that way, and at times, even free!

onearmedbandit
12th January 2006, 19:53
And as I meant to say-

Should I feel guilty? I'm loving this thread. Keep 'em rolling peoples!

Sniper
12th January 2006, 22:19
Great thread, like OAB said, awesome read

Holy Roller
12th January 2006, 22:37
As Weasel said
pick your time and place, plenty of good roads to enjoy.
10 of us went to Taupo the other day via the long way not one spoiler to be seen the whole way. The majority of the ride was at the speed limit though. A great day out was had by all.

sennandy
13th January 2006, 20:48
As at the moment I live in Scotland, I am unable to comment on how to get away from the T/cops, yet, but once I am there next month I will start working on it, the riding in a gaggle of bike one sounds great until the L plater can't keep up and takes everyone down, not seen this happen but heard the urban myth.

Anyway, we usually take a T/cop with us as our get out of jail free card, cops anywhere in the world will not do other cops, unless they don't like each other. Also when you get out of Glasgow and up the Highlands there is very few cops, then when you get to the islands there are none and above Ullapool(mid way up) there are none, so as you please.

I also lived on the Isle Of Man for 5years and it was superb passing the cops at 150-160mph(not kpm) over the mountain section, now that was awsome. In the towns and villages the speed limit is 30mph(50mph) and outside there was no speed limit, nice for biking but strange people. Banjo players.

pritch
14th January 2006, 16:51
Another way we were told by motorcycle cops themselves, is travel in larger groups, stagger your party left/right on the road and keep it as tight as safely possible so they cant identify the speeder.

A Ulysses group of seven bikes I was with last winter was stopped by a cop.

I wasn't actually planning on stopping for him as he couldn't possibly have meant me, I was only doing an indicated 100kph as was the group (it was raining) and I was last but one in the group. Had to change to plan B though because he parked his car in the middle of the road and we all had to stop.

He told us that someone had been doing 140. If they were I didn't see it, but he also said he couldn't identify who it was.
He further informed us that in those circumstances it is customary to hand a ticket to the first bike in the group.
Seems to me that it would more likely be tail end Charlie but wtf?

He was quite shitty at first but calmed down (it may have been the sight of all the grey hair). Told us a bunch of shit we had all heard before, to which we all nodded politely, then he left.

lia
14th January 2006, 21:25
Would only work on a stationary copper...

If he was travelling towards you then the point man would have to pass him, then overtake, then speed away from the copper in order to reach you before he does.

nah all that is needed is the lead guy pulls up and rings on the good ole trusty mob to warn the others ... wont even cost a cent as it will only be enough to set the receivers vibrating phone off. :mobile:

the flaws in the plan however are:
a) receiver forgets to set to vibrate - doh!
b) receiver is extremely popular and gets numerous calls through out the journey making it an extremely sllooooowww ride - doh doh!
c) and then there is always the NO RECEPTION problem - doh! doh! doh!

like any plan is bulletproof? :pinch:

Pixie
15th January 2006, 09:17
He told us that someone had been doing 140. If they were I didn't see it, but he also said he couldn't identify who it was.
He further informed us that in those circumstances it is customary to hand a ticket to the first bike in the group.
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I can't believe a court in any just society would accept this.However in good ol' Nazi NZ I'd believe it.

Lou Girardin
16th January 2006, 07:35
He further informed us that in those circumstances it is customary to hand a ticket to the first bike in the group.
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There is no way he'd get home on that one in court. All those witnesses to that statement?
He was bluffing because he knew he was fucked.

scumdog
16th January 2006, 08:02
There is no way he'd get home on that one in court. All those witnesses to that statement?
He was bluffing because he knew he was fucked.

Nah, he was bluffing - cos he was bluffing!!

He'd know he wouldn't 'get home' with that ticket - but it's good for a wind-up - and makes for a good drinking topic by the bikers late on "f'nn hell, glad I dont travel on front" and "Nah, he can't do that - can he??" etc

scumdog
16th January 2006, 08:04
You could ride 10 km's ahead and if you do see a tax man, bang off a flare. The wicked speeders will see the flare ahead and become non-wicked quickly.
Pat pending

And then run for cover as all the local S.A.R. guys headed for the flare!:Oops:

Lou Girardin
16th January 2006, 12:11
Nah, he was bluffing - cos he was bluffing!!

He'd know he wouldn't 'get home' with that ticket - but it's good for a wind-up - and makes for a good drinking topic by the bikers late on "f'nn hell, glad I dont travel on front" and "Nah, he can't do that - can he??" etc

So he was really performing a public service then.

scumdog
16th January 2006, 12:15
So he was really performing a public service then.

Yup, the fish'n'chip act is still in place and working well.:msn-wink: :shifty:

Rashika
16th January 2006, 18:07
And then run for cover as all the local S.A.R. guys headed for the flare!:Oops:
not speaking from experience are we Scumdog?? :rolleyes:

madboy
16th January 2006, 18:39
Scanner, jammer, dark coloured bike, minimal stickering, no plate followed by hammer-time :devil2: Doesn't work so well if you're on a slow and/or fat bike.

scumdog
16th January 2006, 23:34
not speaking from experience are we Scumdog?? :rolleyes:

My lips are sealed!
Remind me to tell y'all about the Plane Crash incident next time we meet!

idb
16th January 2006, 23:46
A bunch of mates of mine were travelling in a group of about six and agreed that if one got pulled over the others would carry on and meet up at the next stop.
As they were approaching Murchison they saw the lead guy stopped with a cop so they carried on and stopped at the Murchison pub.
A bit later the cop pulled up outside, wound down the window and said "your mate's a bit pissed off with you lot, he's run out of gas and you just left him........".
He gave one of them a ride back with a can of petrol.

Rashika
17th January 2006, 06:29
My lips are sealed!
Remind me to tell y'all about the Plane Crash incident next time we meet!
sounds intereeeesssssttting. Should be good over another whiskey I think SD, say next weekend? :Punk: