TTR600 TT600R Belgarda

[hostage]

Hi,
Can anyone out there help me with Any info on the TTR600. I have a 2000 model that is standard and would like to know the following.
If an after market exhaust is added will it need to be rejeted?
What mods can be done to give it more poke?
On another site it suggested disconnecting a wire that retards the ignition but did not say what effect this would have?
So far I have been able to find very little info on the bike so any sites that you know of would also be appreciated.

Thanks,
Stay Upright,
Hostage

[clint640]

Welcome to the forum hostage, A more open pipe should need a slight re-jet, (eg when I put the SXC can on my 640 I went from a 157.5 main to a 160). A change of needle or needle position may also be needed to get the most out of it. What sort of carb does it have? If no one seems to know about a good setup for your bike a dyno tuning session might be the best bet - try out a few different jets & needle settings 'til you get the right power.

The other usual mod to get more power out of a big single is to open up the airbox by removing snorkles & cutting holes in the side, but the TTR may already have a pretty free flowing airbox, take the cover off the airbox if you do a dyno run & see if it makes a difference.

Cheers
Clint

[hostage]

Thanks for the input Clint.
Have fitted a wileyco muffler and now the power dies off for a second. Will try the carby adjustments on the weekend.
Best Regards

[Jimmy]

Gidday Hostage - I've had my 600 4 years now and it just keeps getting better as the k's clock up. The retard wire is under the seat, going into the CDI unit. There's a thread on Thumpertalk that explains better than me what affect disconnecting the wire does. Mine was disconnected at delivery. Just search on TT using ttr600. Watch out for snapping drive chains - the 520 o-ring is only just strong enough for these bikes. Having snapped two I've gone to a DID X-ring and keeping fingers crossed!!

[Jimmy]

What happened to Rotovegas Clint??

[clint640]

Hi Jimmy, I got a new job making MDF in Taupo.

Cheers
Clint

[spudchucka]

Thread resurection:

I've been offered a pretty sharp deal on a 2002 TTR600 and am about 95% decided on buying the beast.

Anyone want to try and talk me up to 100% or otherwise?

Long term plan would be to turn it into something like this:

[Henk]

I've got an 01. Great bike, only complaints would be that a. you have to kick it to make it go, b. I had to make my own packframe mounts as they aren't available, c. The stock tank at 9 liters is a pain in the arse for commuting as you only get 180ks to a tank. Fixed that with a 20 l Acerbis unit.
Other than that great bike, huge fun on both tarmac and gravel. If the deal is right and you can cope with the lack of electric start buy it. You might just discover the joys of adventure riding before you do the motard conversion.

[Motu]

Get it and put a smile on your face for once.It's old school.....but I have a feeling that won't really concern you....

[Badcat]

Thread resurection:

I've been offered a pretty sharp deal on a 2002 TTR600 and am about 95% decided on buying the beast.

Anyone want to try and talk me up to 100% or otherwise?

Long term plan would be to turn it into something like this:

DO IT spud.
looks sweet.

k

[Wellyman]

Thats a nice looking bike. I would have a go. GTYR has a motard kit for most of the yamaha dirt bikes so go have a look.
WM

[Badcat]

hey spud.
if you are lacing up wheels for the TTR, also consider a 19" front.
i find it a great middle ground between a twitchy little 17" and the 21" standard rim. i've also found a cheap and simple cycle computer install if you're interested.

K

[spudchucka]

I'm about 97.5% convinced now, it is a pretty good deal and the bike has only done a genuine 3034 kms so it isn't hard to get the cheque book out, its just that the hand gets a little nervous before signing.

Badcat, whats the computer thingy all about?

Motu, yep - I like old school.

Henk, my last two bikes, VTR & TLS both only got about 180 - 190 ks so thats not really a concern to me. I do intend to do some adventure rides if I get it, the motard thing would have to be done in a way that the bike could be easily converted from one mode to the other.

[DemonWolf]

Spudchucka.. if you only got 190K's out of a TLS then you must have a heavy wrist!haha or ya only ride on your own private road\race track. as the normal range is 230km's out of a 17ltr tank (doing the appropriate speed limit). That I find.

and the computer thing Badcat is talking about is giving you a Speedo etc I would imagine.

[spudchucka]

Spudchucka.. if you only got 190K's out of a TLS then you must have a heavy wrist!haha or ya only ride on your own private road\race track. as the normal range is 230km's out of a 17ltr tank (doing the appropriate speed limit). That I find.

and the computer thing Badcat is talking about is giving you a Speedo etc I would imagine.
I always found the TLS a thirsty beast even when ridden carefully, but then I'm geting on a bit and my memory could be fading too, perhaps it did get a bit more than I suggested, either way I'm not buying another TL so I'm not worried abouts it's k's / ltr.

The TTR has a speedo fitted, lights, indicators, all the road stuff is on there. However it doesn't have a tacho, which doesn't seem like too much of a concern as its a long stroke, low reving torqy thing anyway.

[Badcat]

Badcat, whats the computer thingy all about?

.

if you change the bike to a 17" or 19" front wheel, your speedo will be WAY out.
a lot of SM riders ditch the instruments and run a cycle speedo as you can re-calibrate them easily and they are very small and light.

of course i'm assuming the TTR has the std 21" front wheel and you're intending to change this - as per the pic you attached.
PM me for more info if you need help.

k

[spudchucka]

Question for the dirt bike types;

Is the TTR similar / comparable to an XR650?

Is the XR in any way superior, (other than the obvious water cooled vs air cooled)?

The XR's of the same vintage seem to be a little more expensive, is this just because they are a Honda or because of some tangible benfit to the XR?

Thanks again,

[spudchucka]

if you change the bike to a 17" or 19" front wheel, your speedo will be WAY out.
a lot of SM riders ditch the instruments and run a cycle speedo as you can re-calibrate them easily and they are very small and light.

of course i'm assuming the TTR has the std 21" front wheel and you're intending to change this - as per the pic you attached.
PM me for more info if you need help.

k
Cheers, I hadn't even thought about that, despite it being bloody obvious. The bike I'm thinking of buying is stock standard, if I get it I'll look to modify it over time.

[Badcat]

Cheers, I hadn't even thought about that, despite it being bloody obvious. The bike I'm thinking of buying is stock standard, if I get it I'll look to modify it over time.

No sweat.
my bike started life as an SR500 and i've changed a lot of it.
i can put you onto a great wheel builder, and his prices are good.
i changed mine from 18" front and back with drums front and back to a 19" front and 17" rear with discs.

K

[spudchucka]

my bike started life as an SR500
I had one of them in the 80's, its why I still like big singles and twins.

I'll get in touch with you re wheels etc if I do go ahead and purchase.

Thanks

[spudchucka]

SR500
I just had a look at your profile picture, nice bike!

[inlinefour]

Thread resurection:

I've been offered a pretty sharp deal on a 2002 TTR600 and am about 95% decided on buying the beast.

Anyone want to try and talk me up to 100% or otherwise?

Long term plan would be to turn it into something like this:

I looked at one of these before getting the DRZ, had I'd been able to get the TT for the $$$ I had at the time, purchase would have been definite.

[spudchucka]

I looked at one of these before getting the DRZ, had I'd been able to get the TT for the $$$ I had at the time, purchase would have been definite.
Have you got a DRZ 400 or 650?

I was kind of interested in the DRZ400 super motard model but in hind sight I think it would be better to get the dirt bike model and convert it to a motard.

I'm considering two offers on TTR's but I've just become aware of an XR650 thats in my price range and has a number of after market mods on it, now I'm confused!

[clint640]

The XR650 is a good rig. Same focus as the TTR but if you like adding gadgets & farkles there is far more bling available for the XR as they sell them in the states unlike the TTR.

Cheers
Clint

[inlinefour]

Have you got a DRZ 400 or 650?

I was kind of interested in the DRZ400 super motard model but in hind sight I think it would be better to get the dirt bike model and convert it to a motard.

I'm considering two offers on TTR's but I've just become aware of an XR650 thats in my price range and has a number of after market mods on it, now I'm confused!

There is the DRZ400 and a DR650, dunno what the difference is though. I ended up eith a road legal DRZ400e and I love riding it, might get motard wheels for it one day too. The tell me that the DRZ motard is quite detuned compared to my bike. Took one for a ride and was not impressed at all really. If you have found a XR650 you like, I'd go for it if I was you, being a superior brand and all:Pokey: Had I had an alternative to the DRZ at the time I would have probably taken it, not being fond of the Suzuki. However, after owning/riding it awhile I can see that its a great bike. At the end of the day, get what it is that you really want, can afford and don't take much notice of what others tell you to buy. But IMO, I'd go the Honduh as they make far superior bikes :kick:

[Motu]

Well personaly,if we are talking old school aircooled XR600s,I think the TT is the better engineered bike...but the XR was faster and handled better.I just like the more robust Yamaha build....and the dry sump.But if we are talking water cooled XR650,it's no contest,go for the XR.

[Badcat]

Well personaly,if we are talking old school aircooled XR600s,I think the TT is the better engineered bike...but the XR was faster and handled better.I just like the more robust Yamaha build....and the dry sump.But if we are talking water cooled XR650,it's no contest,go for the XR.

yep - i'd go the XR too - is it electric start or kick only?

[Motu]

They are kick only,it'd be a much more popular bike if it had the electric leg,but Honda won't listen.Anyway,I'm sure the guy in question has huge thighs....

[inlinefour]

Well personaly,if we are talking old school aircooled XR600s,I think the TT is the better engineered bike...but the XR was faster and handled better.I just like the more robust Yamaha build....and the dry sump.But if we are talking water cooled XR650,it's no contest,go for the XR.

But is the modern XR650 not water cooled? I was assuming that what was on offer.

[clint640]

There is the old skool XR650L which is aircooled & pretty rare here & then there is the big bad XR650R with liquid cooling & alloy frame etc which is a lot more common & I assume thats what the man is looking at?

Cheers
Clint

[spudchucka]

But is the modern XR650 not water cooled? I was assuming that what was on offer.
The XR that has caught my fancy is a 2002 model, water cooled, kick start, 8000 ks, coloured red strangley enough.

[inlinefour]

The XR that has caught my fancy is a 2002 model, water cooled, kick start, 8000 ks, coloured red strangley enough.

A far superior bike to the rest.:done:

[Ghost Lemur]

Spud, have you considered the Yammy XT660X?

On that note, can someone explain this (http://www.eatmydirt.com.au//reviews/2060) new tech to me. Read it a couple of times but still don't have a clue what it's all about .

[Motu]

He'd probably consider it if it was the same price as a 2002 XR650....

I don't know what the hell the add writer is on about there - it's just a roller rocker...jeez,even my Pajero has them.

[spudchucka]

Spud, have you considered the Yammy XT660X?
Tried one a few weeks ago but it just didn't quite do it for me. I liked the motor, it had heaps of torque but the bike felt like a big nothing, like it wasn't a dirt bike, it wasn't a road bike and it wasn't a motard bike. It was probably a little of each, which is no doubt what Yamaha intended, I'm more interested in a proper big bore dirt bike that I can ride on the road and thrash as motard.

[Ghost Lemur]

In that case what about the Aprilia SXV 550? Obviously it's a little more than you're looking to spend. But could at least be good for a test ride.

[spudchucka]

If I win Lotto any time soon I'll be ordering an Aprillia, sadly I'm on a beer budget these days so the Honda or the Yammy are the best I can manage.

[spudchucka]

XR650R picked up this morning and heading out for a blat this arvo.:woohoo:

[inlinefour]

XR650R picked up this morning and heading out for a blat this arvo.:woohoo:

Enjoy the bike :sunny:

[Ghost Lemur]

XR650R picked up this morning and heading out for a blat this arvo.:woohoo:

Pix please.

Congrats on the new addition Spud, I'm sure you'll be very happy. Looking forward to a first impression write up to go with those pix. hint hint

[spudchucka]

I'll sort out some pics tomorrow, I have to clean up the card in my camera first.

First impression is that the XR is what I'd hoped the TTR would be. It's a real grunter, has heaps of low down grunt but doesn't flatten out early like the TTR did. It has a full after market exhaust system and a jet kit in it, which no doubt lets it breath better but the difference was quite incredible.

I took it for a quiet squirt on a dirt road and that was a learning experience for somebody that has ridden road bikes only for 25 years. I've got a lot to learn! It'll get supermotarded at some stage but that will be a long term project as the budget is limited. I'm just happy to be on a bike again.

[spudchucka]

Here are a couple of quick pics of the new bike. No, its not the little pink one with trainer wheels.

[Ghost Lemur]

Great looking machine Spud.

It's certainly got fun written all over it.

Also the benefit of tarding it yourself means you get to choose the comprimises based on your needs/desires rather than someone else doing it.

[spudchucka]

Tarding it will be a long term project. I'll probably keep it as is for this summer and look to do the mods over the following winter.

[Motu]

Take a read through this thread,some good ideas for the XR650R

http://www.trailpilgrim.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1071

[spudchucka]

Thanks Motu, looks like a very usefull resource.

[spudchucka]

After reading these web pages:

http://www.qsl.net/n5nj/pig/uncorking%20the%20brp.htm
http://www.4strokes.com/tech/honda/uncork_brp/
http://www.4strokes.com/tech/honda/650rmods.asp

I decided to pull my XR apart to see what mods had been done to it by previous owners.

It turns out that my "Big Red Pig" has been fully "uncorked" so its little wonder that it is so much gruntier than the bog standard TTR600 that I had a test ride of.

The only mod that hasn't been done is this one:

http://www.4strokes.com/tech/honda/airbox/

If I can pick up a second hand side cover from somewhere I might go ahead and do this as well. My only concern would be taking it off road and riding it through water with this mod but it would be a good mod for a motarded XR.

[Henk]

Pretty standard mod for various bikes. If you think there is going to be lots of water you can always block up the holes with duct tape.