leaky Ohlins & 'bloody' bike shops [Archive]

dangerous

16th January 2006, 18:00

Right so rang the bike shop due to the reason a fork seal is leaking on the new V11 Lemans.... Ohlins USD you beaut forks.

The guy that I spoke to whom I shall call the wanker tries telling me that Ohlins forks are meant to always have a oily residue on them.... 1st I have ever heard of this???
Anyway I said no... it is leaking he repeated his comments 2 more times I repeated my response 2 more times.

Why is one fork nice and dry and the other not I asked..... well cant remember his reply on that, so he wont book it in for a replacment (under warranty) I have to take time off work and go in there with the bike to show this wanker the problem.

Now this is the 3rd time I have made a claim on the bike (Its part of owning a rare exotic bike) and the 3rd time I have had to put up with this shit.

So tell me look at the pics and you guys say if this bike shop guy is a wanker... or if I am.... well ok we all know that I am but is he one as well, are the pics below normal... including the drip in the last pic???

merv

16th January 2006, 18:09

Looks buggered to me. A seal must have gone. I've got two bikes with USD forks and if they leaked like that when new I'd be annoyed.

If you want a second opinion I'd say contact the Ohlins guru Robert Taylor at Hawera Motorcycles - contact details here http://www.haweramotor.com/

Kickaha

16th January 2006, 18:13

Right so rang the bike shop due to the reason a fork seal is leaking on the new V11 Lemans.... Ohlins USD you beaut forks.

The guy that I spoke to whom I shell call the wanker tries telling me that Ohlins forks are ment to always have a oily resadue on them.... 1st I have ever heard of this???

Some car systems do this to provide lubrication for the seals, ring Robert Taylor the NZ Ohlins dealer and ask him about it

Now this is the 3rd time I have made a claim on the bike (Its part of owning a rear exsotic bike) and the 3rd time I have had to put up with this shit.

rear and exsotic what fucking language did you type that in,it's only a V11 with a few extra bits

you guys say if this bike shope guy is a wanker... or if I am....

Definitly you :laugh:

k14

16th January 2006, 18:27

Nah that looks pretty normal to me. Come have a look at my rs forks on the weekend, look exactly the same, even straight after I put new seals in. I think its to reduce the friction from the sliders rubbing on the fork seals.

Motig

16th January 2006, 18:32

Heck,thats the first time of heard of a leaking fork seal being a factory option:crazy:

Sensei

16th January 2006, 19:12

Forks will always have a slight film on them , but that is leaking . Robert Taylor is on holiday this week so try him next week Dude . Got my Fork seal done under warranty on my GSXR so would think been Ohlins they should aleast do the labour for free . Forks can leak if you have done a big wheelie then bottomed it out , as the oil when the fork is right at the bottom can get over the top of the seal & when it returns back to normal postion it can run down the inside of the seal till it has no more sitting on it . { Did this on mine after my seals where done } but I think it is leaking from the amount of fluid .

boomer

16th January 2006, 19:40

....
rear and exsotic what fucking language did you type that in,it's only a V11 with a few extra bits

Definitly you :laugh:

:yeah:I concurr .. :first: :tugger:

**R1**

16th January 2006, 19:52

LOL,LOL:laugh: :rofl: what were you thinking when u posted this thread???

should have bought a yammy mate....24,000k's of stoppies and wheelies....and no leaks...

and in answer to your question, yes he is the wankers(i know what shop u got it from) and yes it is fucked....wont be long till it ends up in ya brakes...

you want me to teach you how to land wheelies?:bleh: :bleh:

Kornholio

16th January 2006, 19:59

It will be your flux-capacitor mate....it always looks like a seal is blown :D

boomer

16th January 2006, 20:05

It will be your flux-capacitor mate....it always looks like a seal is blown :D

There was a cheap one on tardme a while back, caused quite a stir. If you get in quick Dangerous it might be up for grabs still.. would look good on that erotic.. oops i mean rear and exsotic bike of yours :rofl:

Smokin

16th January 2006, 20:12

Yep, its shot alright. get the wanker to fix it.

Kornholio

16th January 2006, 20:36

manuboy

16th January 2006, 20:36

Well if sensei is right, make sure you pull a couple of mono's before arriving at the shop. Hang on - it's a guzzi - second thoughts i'll come round and we'll pick it up and drop it a few times :banana:

Looks farked to me - is it too late to get the VTR back? 15k and it never put a foot wrong (and it pulled mono's - wee ones but mono's!!)

The guy at the shop would be pushing shit uphill to pass that off as normal residue... !

I still rate sportzone as the best shop in chch - i'd have no worries if the SV dropped it's load

D'ya want em to tow you in on the SV? :2thumbsup

gav

16th January 2006, 21:18

Me thinks you been trying to wheelie the Guzzi :rofl: :rofl:
She's fucked, all down hill from here, oh well, at least it was cheap...:corn:
Hey at least it didn't break down, did it?........did it?

WINJA

16th January 2006, 21:50

theyll be those shit quality ohlins like the ones they stuck on the haga replica , ohlins have been sellimg some real crap to companys to fit as oe equiptment , prolly better off with standard r1 or or gixxer1000 forks , get a proper bike like a v max

Sensei

16th January 2006, 21:55

Old owner of my bike has Fitted with the help of Robert Taylor the
" AK20 Kit " into his K4 GSXR forks & I can say I'v riden no other bike with forks that feel like that Ohlins included Perfect !!!

miSTa

16th January 2006, 22:00

cowpoos

16th January 2006, 22:20

Well if sensei is right, make sure you pull a couple of mono's before arriving at the shop. Hang on - it's a guzzi - second thoughts i'll come round and we'll pick it up and drop it a few times :banana:

you'll need a fork lift to do that...hirequip should have a 4ton fork lift at a good daily hire rate...

and eric wood are arseholes......so is the motoguzzi dealer [masterton motorcycles] here that happens to sell kawasakis....that won't replace fork seals under warenty for the third time [both left and right seals went within 1 month of owning my klx] and still waiting for a return phone call after ringing three times...I'm gunna go in there and stir some shit next week

cowpoos

16th January 2006, 22:23

Having seen it first hand - the seal is weeping (this more than a slight film of oil). The person you spoke to D is being a bit of a tosser but wonder if a fork seal can be considered a warranty repair.

hell yeah its a warrenty claim.... what makes you think its not.... it may not have as comprehensive a warrenty like a john deere...but we still hav consumer laws...

Kornholio

16th January 2006, 23:03

You tell him poos!!............

Pixie

16th January 2006, 23:04

a friends MV Brutale developed a similar leak on one fork leg.Colemans replaced the seal immediately.
Not sure if they are Ohlins forks,but that any fork should "normally" leak is bullshit.

Pixie

16th January 2006, 23:09

Yep,it looks like you've blown a seal,alright.

...or is that ice cream on your face?

scumdog

17th January 2006, 00:02

Having seen it first hand - the seal is weeping (this more than a slight film of oil). The person you spoke to D is being a bit of a tosser but wonder if a fork seal can be considered a warranty repair.

Yeah, while at the Glenorchy we (everybody but Dangerous) had a uh-oh gang meeting (you know, where you all standing around looking and pointing at the problem going "uh-oh" "uh-oh") and we looked at the leak and went uh-oh (but nobody was game to tell you).:laugh: :killingme

All I can say is that the last time I saw that much oil around was when the Torrey Canyon ran aground in '66!!!:rofl:

miSTa

17th January 2006, 06:10

hell yeah its a warrenty claim.... what makes you think its not.... it may not have as comprehensive a warrenty like a john deere...but we still hav consumer laws...

I would certainly expect it to be a warranty claim but the reason I wonder if it's a warranty repair is simply because the number of reasons for a leaking seal are many and varied. A number of which are beyond the control of the manufacturer. That is in itself enough for warranty exclusion.

**R1**

17th January 2006, 07:22

Yeah, while at the Glenorchy we (everybody but Dangerous) had a uh-oh gang meeting (you know, where you all standing around looking and pointing at the problem going "uh-oh" "uh-oh") and we looked at the leak and went uh-oh (but nobody was game to tell you).:laugh: :killingme

All I can say is that the last time I saw that much oil around was when the Torrey Canyon ran aground in '66!!!:rofl:From the man that owns a hog:rofl::rofl:

scumdog

17th January 2006, 07:25

From the man that owns a hog:rofl::rofl:
That is devoid of oil leaks!

(Unlike the R1 I saw start up cold and run like a two-stroke for the first 1/2 minute - or does it not count if it 'leaks' out the exhaust!?)

k14

17th January 2006, 07:42

That is devoid of oil leaks!
Yeah cause all the oil is leaked out :rofl:

Sniper

17th January 2006, 07:46

Dangerous, you know guzzis are for display. You are not meant to ride them. :bleh:

Lou Girardin

17th January 2006, 08:58

It sounds like Mr Wanker is trying to put you off so that he doesn't have to wait months for his warranty claim to be paid.

WINJA

17th January 2006, 09:07

its bullshit when shops treat you like this , if its a warranty they should just get it done in a timely fashion , we should always name and shame bad dealerships it might raise their game when they read it here .
i hate to harp on about suzuki but look at what i got , they fucked up and they gave me a free gixxer1000 k3 as a replacement and an apology and 1 year rego as part of the deal , then when i was a few days away from from my warranty expiring they did my replaced my swing arm bearings free after they pointed out the clause saying bearings arent a warranty item and that my bike looked like it had been thrashed , i love this kinda service and if suzuki made low performance bikes and honda made high performance bikes id still buy the suzuki cause a bike that doesnt go has no performance at all , cheers roadnsport and cheers suzuki nz ill keep coming back

WINJA

17th January 2006, 09:10

dangerous , sometimes you just gotta be a cunt to get whats yours , sometimes being nice doesnt work

cowpoos

17th January 2006, 09:21

dangerous , sometimes you just gotta be a cunt to get whats yours , sometimes being nice doesnt work

well he is a cunt :weird: so souldn't be a problem!

Fatjim

17th January 2006, 09:24

"bearings arent a warranty item"

WTF, so suzuki wont warranty anything with moving parts cause it might wear out? I'd have thought bearings where the one thing you'd want under warranty

Thats bullshit. Do other makes do the same?

WINJA

17th January 2006, 09:26

WTF, so suzuki wont warranty anything with moving parts cause it might wear out? I'd have thought bearings where the one thing you'd want under warranty

Thats bullshit. Do other makes do the same?
MY KWAK WAS THE SAME , WHEEL , HEAD STOCK AND SWING ARM BEARINGS ARENT WARRANTY , OF CAUSE IF THEIR FUCKED IN A WEEK THATS ANOTHER STORY

Fatjim

17th January 2006, 09:37

cool, so at least the farings are covered if they ..... what can go wrong with farings?

R1madness

17th January 2006, 09:38

R1madness

17th January 2006, 09:39

Hey WINJA, good to see ya back with caps and a painted roof hahahahaha

dangerous

17th January 2006, 15:56

HEy Dangerous, Come out to the track (Ruapuna) on Friday, Saturday, or Sunday. Find me (I'll be in Stroudys tent probibly but leave a cellphone number there for me if i am not) and i will take you to see Robert Taylor (ohlins) or Ray Clee (WP SUSPENSION). They can have a look and will tell you ther truth about your seal.
Regards
Ian
yeah hey cheers for that aye, but I think it is sorted now

It sounds like Mr Wanker is trying to put you off so that he doesn't have to wait months for his warranty claim to be paid.
Yip got it in one I'd say, Mr Wanker had a look at the bike today after I figgered screw it I have to take a couple of hours of work.

well as it sat there a drop of oil fell to the ground and Mr Wanker put his fingers under the fork... and what do ya know, he had oil all over his prety fingers.
"Ohhhh" he says "thats not good" :argh: Is'ent that what I said, then he gave me the spele about how they are ment to have some residue on them... again :rolleyes:

Anyway its all booked in to be replaced and Mr Wanker did say sorry that I had to bring it in so I'll give him credit for that. And I took the T shirt in to the shop that I won at the Glenorchy rally for best Euro bike and the staff in there said I could swap it for a Guzzi one (it was a Hog shirt) the Guzzi shirt was 3 times more costley so the Manager said shed take $20 of it..... awesome aye :)

TwoSeven

17th January 2006, 16:16

I've never heard this thing about forks sposed to have residue on them. I know you get some from stiction leakage, but its a new thing to me that its 'supposed' to do that.

thehollowmen

17th January 2006, 16:29

Yep,it looks like you've blown a seal,alright.

...or is that ice cream on your face?

was wondering when someone would say that

Bonez

22nd January 2006, 16:54

I've never heard this thing about forks sposed to have residue on them. I know you get some from stiction leakage, but its a new thing to me that its 'supposed' to do that.It's so you lubricate the breakpads and rotors, don't ya know :slap:

Scouse

22nd January 2006, 17:06

cool, so at least the farings are covered if they ..... what can go wrong with farings?
Vibation cracks it was a common problem on Suzuki RG500's so much so that I had Two complete replacement's but in them day's it took Suzuki 8 months to organise each replacment

miSTa

22nd January 2006, 21:04

... so the Manager said shed take $20 of it..... awesome aye :)

You're talking about Diane, yeah she is pretty good value.

scumdog

23rd January 2006, 07:03

[QUOTE=dangerousAnd I took the T shirt in to the shop that I won at the Glenorchy rally for best Euro bike and the staff in there said I could swap it for a Guzzi one (it was a Hog shirt) the Guzzi shirt was 3 times more costley so the Manager said shed take $20 of it..... awesome aye :)[/QUOTE]

Nothing like looking a gift horse in the mouth eh D.? (and everybody reckons H-D T-shirts and stuff costs too much!):motu: