Am I a POM?

[Freebird]

Just a thought, is a POM someone from England or from the UK as I'm from N'Ireland and I'm not sure :no:

[deathstar]

A pommy like myself should really only be the stuck up british accent people and if you say your from ireland people will keep asking you which one?

[MidnightMike]

Nah your no pom. Or are you? :shifty:

[boomer]

Just a thought, is a POM someone from England or from the UK as I'm from N'Ireland and I'm not sure :no:

You're irish alright.. its says Preston - Lancashire - England in your 'user-cp' :lol:

Pom comes from Prisoner of Her Majesty (POHM).. so the answer is YES, you pikies are the worst!!! :stupid:

[terbang]

If you are from south of Hadrians wall and east of Wales then Id hate to be the bearer of bad news..:stoogie:

[bugjuice]

nah, I always thought poms were brits. Welsh are sheep shaggers (allegedly), scots are 'ard bastards, and the irish..? they're the little guys in green outfits and orange hair, aren't they?

[Karma]

the answer is YES, you pikies are the worst!!! :stupid:


Haha... pikey... been a while since I heard that kinda talk...

You gyppo!

[WINJA]

depends , do you sound like a mk4 cortina reversing up a hill

[deathstar]

but in the worlds of british humour "Your mother was a hamster and your father smelled of elderberries" and jolly good show to you chaps

[Biff]

Apparently not mate. I'm a Taff and I've been told I'm not a POM. Unless I whinge.

[Freebird]

Living in England is a cross I have to bear at the moment, hopefully not for much longer :banana:


Ya cheeky bugger :2thumbsup

[jonbuoy]

Not sure.......Half Paddy half pom! He he:drinknsin

[boomer]

Living in England is a cross I have to bear at the moment, hopefully not for much longer :banana:


Ya cheeky bugger :2thumbsup]

All good, i lived in Preston for a while and went to college there for a couple of years. Spent most my time in Liverpool though :buggerd: & :drinkup:

[sheddy]

Yep no pome.[ Prisoner of mother England].
I've been over here 31 years, still talk with the daft west country cider twang and believe me it aint posh. Oh and bye the way the kids at school tried to bash it out of me and it didn't work,even though at the time I desperatly wanted to comply.

[Vagabond]

POME the meaning of, Australian nick name for those who showed any attachment to England...1800's PRISONER OF MOTHER ENGLAND.

See http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~garter1/trivia.htm

[Karma]

Pommy

The term Pommy for a British person is commonly used in Australian English and New Zealand English, and is often shortened to Pom. The origin of this term is not confirmed.

One etymology of the term is thought to be that, as the majority of early immigrants to Australia were British, it is rhyming slang for "immigrant" from a contraction of the word "pomegranate", or possibly more directly related to the appearance of the fruit, as it bears a more than passing resemblance to the typical pale complexioned Briton's skin after his or her first few days living under the hot Australian sun.

Another etymology, is such that POM is a shortened acronym of Prisoner of His/Her Majesty (POHM). This refers to the fact that most of Australian's first settlers were convicts, sentenced to transportation. Upon arrival in the country they would sport a "uniform", with the four initials emblazoned on the back. Convicts with an extended stay on Australian soil would no longer have to wear the shirt, and would often refer to newer entrants into the country as "Pohmmys". The modern term excludes the H. Such actions could have presumed the Australian trait of self-joking. But though this may be commonly believed, it is believed to be false, as the term was coined long before acronyms were believed to be used in common parlance.

Other suggestions are mostly along the lines that POM is a different acronym, such as "Prisoner of Mother England" or "Port of Melbourne", referring to the fact that the earliest Australian settlers were convicts. None of these explanations bears up under scrutiny.

Some etymologies can be considered false etymologies, however there is a little to no evidence of a truthful conclusion to the word.

The use of the word 'Pom' is considered mildly derogatory - some may use it to cause offence, or to address the British nation as a whole, but it is mostly used as a friendly derogatory term amongst people who know each other well, especially if one of them is British and the other Australian.

Wikipidia says no.

[Crazy Steve]

I think you still are dude...Northern Irelands still packin the pound...

There for you are what you are...

Now if you were from Cork....Now thats a wee fine place you have there..:shit:

Crazy Steve.

[MisterD]

Consider you have emigrated, waited your time and gained NZ citizenship. Now ask yourself the question: "Am I a Kiwi?"

If you answer "No" - you're a POM

If you answer "Yes" - You're kidding yourself!

[Sniper]

Biff if from Wales and he is a POM. Sorry mate, as soon as you get here, they will call you a POM.

[Grahameeboy]

Consider you have emigrated, waited your time and gained NZ citizenship. Now ask yourself the question: "Am I a Kiwi?"

If you answer "No" - you're a POM

If you answer "Yes" - You're kidding yourself!

I am British (and part Welsh/Irish) and everytime I met some geezer in the pub, he'd say..."are you a POM"?....as if it wasn't obvious....anyway after a while GB got a little bored of this and started to answer "I am me"......it worked a treat.....

[MisterD]

I am British (and part Welsh/Irish) and everytime I met some geezer in the pub, he'd say..."are you a POM"?....as if it wasn't obvious....anyway after a while GB got a little bored of this and started to answer "I am me"......it worked a treat.....

Nice. I'm also expat English, having been imported by a Kiwi wife I met while she was on her OE.

The last thing her Dad told her at the airport as she was leaving was "Remember, no poms for sons!":slap:

[Grahameeboy]

Nice. I'm also expat English, having been imported by a Kiwi wife I met while she was on her OE.

The last thing her Dad told her at the airport as she was leaving was "Remember, no poms for sons!":slap:

Excellent....sounds like you have a woman with good taste then........trust you get along with her Dad........

I have been here since 1998.......now forget that I lived in UK and when I go back I feel like a tourist and actually hold my head high.....when I get close to Auckland on way back I always say to myself 'I am home'.......only ever happened to me when I went back to London when my Nan died but guess it was an emotional time....

[snuffles]

well at least you are one of her majesties subjects, be good to get more of us over here to keep an eye on the colonials.:yes:

[MisterD]

Excellent....sounds like you have a woman with good taste then........trust you get along with her Dad........



Ha ha, yes no worries aye?

I was more worried about meeting her Grandfather who was in N Africa in WWII and was a famously grumpy old bugger with a very low opinion of poms....when it transpired that I was happy to listen to his war stories 'cos I hadn't heard them 100 times already it ceased to matter!

Oh, and Snuffles, one of the things I most like about being here, is that I reckon I have a good chance of ending my life in a republic...

[Colapop]

You're not a POM. And never will be. Being a Paddy, you'll drink, you'll curse, you'll fight and you'll fit right in!

[Freebird]

Cheers guys, I think I'm even more confused now than when I asked the question but I've had a good laugh at some of the replys :eek: which is about as much fun as I'm going to have here at the mo as its freezing and pissing down so the bikes tucked up for the winter :(
Cheers
Davey

[manuboy]

Hot (or maybe not so hot - i dunno) off the email press:

One of the British national daily newspapers is asking readers "what it
means to be British?". Some of the emails are hilarious but this is one
from a chap in <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Switzerland</st1:place></st1:country-region> ...

"Being British is about driving in a German car to an Irish pub for a
Belgian beer, then traveling home, grabbing an Indian curry or a Turkish
kebab on the way, to sit on Swedish furniture and watch American shows
on a Japanese TV. And the most British thing of all? Suspicion of anything
foreign ".

[dawnrazor]

Your a Nordie mate, simle as that - fact is most kiwis will assume your scotish anyway and not dare call you a pom, as that would be an indirect insult on their own heritage, whereas the abuse of brits somehow doesn't reflect on them, strange really :brick:
As for saying your irish, hey that works to, when people ask you from which part, you tell 'em the part with the good roads, something i can't do as it happens - mind you that doesn't stop kiwis assumming I'm canadian for some reason, never even been there, go figure.

[Colapop]

Cheers guys, I think I'm even more confused now than when I asked the question but I've had a good laugh at some of the replys :eek: which is about as much fun as I'm going to have here at the mo as its freezing and pissing down so the bikes tucked up for the winter :(
Cheers
Davey
Anytime you ask a question in here not to do with "Argh I broke..." or "Can anyone help me..." then that's the reply you'll get. I mean I've been trying to get someone to swap a dirty old (running) shitter bike for a car and no-one has even bothered to help me... :cry: :cry:

[Wolf]

Paddys, Scots and Taffys cannot be "poms" - "poms" have "pommy accents" - not Scots, Irish or Welsh accents. I also do not include the Cornish as poms - because you can't fit a pommy accent into "ARRRrrrrrr!" (being of Cornish descent, I am also biased).

[dawnrazor]

Paddys, Scots and Taffys cannot be "poms" - "poms" have "pommy accents" - not Scots, Irish or Welsh accents. I also do not include the Cornish as poms - because you can't fit a pommy accent into "ARRRrrrrrr!" (being of Cornish descent, I am also biased).
See my previous posting LOL

[Grahameeboy]

Paddys, Scots and Taffys cannot be "poms" - "poms" have "pommy accents" - not Scots, Irish or Welsh accents. I also do not include the Cornish as poms - because you can't fit a pommy accent into "ARRRrrrrrr!" (being of Cornish descent, I am also biased).

So Mr Wolf what is a Pommy accent......like the Welsh and Scottish, there is a varied London accent, Sussex accent, Kent accent, Lancs accent, Brummy accent, Yourshire accent....well you see my point??

Aha!!

[MisterD]

So Mr Wolf what is a Pommy accent......like the Welsh and Scottish, there is a varied London accent, Sussex accent, Kent accent, Lancs accent, Brummy accent, Yourshire accent....well you see my point??

Aha!!

When colonials talk about my accent, I always point out that I'm from England therefore they are the ones with the accent, not me....except when I'm pissed when I tend to go a bit scouse sounding:mega:

[Grahameeboy]

I see you have escaped answering.........off to your lair.....?

[Grahameeboy]

When colonials talk about my accent, I always point out that I'm from England therefore they are the ones with the accent, not me....except when I'm pissed when I tend to go a bit scouse sounding:mega:

Love the reverse pshycology bit eh??

[Wolf]

So Mr Wolf what is a Pommy accent......like the Welsh and Scottish, there is a varied London accent, Sussex accent, Kent accent, Lancs accent, Brummy accent, Yourshire accent....well you see my point??

Aha!!
Yep, and they're all "pommy accents" - Mankies, Geordies, Yorkies, Londoners et al. North of Cornwall, South of Hadrian's Wall, East of Wales - all them lot in that area where they speak funny - albeit in different ways - thems is the poms. Bloody Saxons, Angles, Jutes and fuggin' Normans!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Wolf]

When colonials talk about my accent, I always point out that I'm from England therefore they are the ones with the accent, not me....except when I'm pissed when I tend to go a bit scouse sounding:mega:
Sorry, dude. The old When In Rome, Do As The Romans Do thing comes into play - when you're here, you have the accent, we don't have accents until we go over there... :devil2:

[Grahameeboy]

Yep, and they're all "pommy accents" - Mankies, Geordies, Yorkies, Londoners et al. North of Cornwall, South of Hadrian's Wall, East of Wales - all them lot in that area where they speak funny - albeit in different ways - thems is the poms. Bloody Saxons, Angles, Jutes and fuggin' Normans!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Must be the full moon.........anyway, I am not a POM, I am ME.....so there ner ner

[Grahameeboy]

Sorry, dude. The old When In Rome, Do As The Romans Do thing comes into play - when you're here, you have the accent, we don't have accents until we go over there... :devil2:

No you have AN accent :shifty:

[Wolf]

No you have AN accent :shifty:
No, we have at least 2 - you furriners just aren't capable of picking the difference. Them bloody Southlanders speak funny. When they venture up into civilisation, they have a Southland accent compared with our cultured tones.
:devil2:
:killingme

[MisterD]

Sorry, dude. The old When In Rome, Do As The Romans Do thing comes into play - when you're here, you have the accent, we don't have accents until we go over there... :devil2:

Don't you mean "excent"? Hey and you know that's why you hate us, there's two types of people in this world, English and Foreign....

[MisterD]

Bloody Saxons, Angles, Jutes and fuggin' Normans!



You forgot the Danes, but yep that's us, a cross breeding of the best fightingest tribes Europe ever produced. That's why the empire and that's why you lot!:done:

[Wolf]

You forgot the Danes, but yep that's us, a cross breeding of the best fightingest tribes Europe ever produced. That's why the empire and that's why you lot!:done:
Yep, often mused that being made up of conquerers and those who managed to survived conquest (and ruled by a monarchy based on the murdering of an incumbent monarch) explains a lot about the famed English expansionist ideal...

[dawnrazor]

you all sound like aussies to me, albeit with slightly less dubious heritages!

Anyway everyone knows that the Irish speak the best english in the world and where instumental in perserving it to this day, through the heroic efforts of the monk scholars in the middle ages. And all that without the mirest hint of an accent.

[TwoSeven]

lol. Thats irish logic for you. The Irish speaking better english than the english. :)

[dawnrazor]

lol. Thats irish logic for you. The Irish speaking better english than the english. :)

Not logic mate, fact. Our education system is one of the leading systems in the world, the literacy rate is one of highest in the world and we have produced more world class writers, poets and scholars per head of capita in the world. In case I'm setting myself up for a target here I don't count myself as special in this regard.

fact is fact, but thanks for the racial slur. LOL

[Freebird]

So Dawnrazor where do you hail from? :niceone:
The best English being found in Ireland is not that well known a fact.
Regards
Davey

[dawnrazor]

So Dawnrazor where do you hail from? :niceone:
The best English being found in Ireland is not that well known a fact.
Regards
Davey

Well we all know about it, and theres a lot of us in one form or another - talk about a quiet reveloution, damn I've said too much already. One word "Ulysses".

:drinkup: :drinkup: :drinkup: :drinkup: :drinkup: :drinkup: :drinkup: :drinkup:

[MisterD]

Yep, often mused that being made up of conquerers and those who managed to survived conquest (and ruled by a monarchy based on the murdering of an incumbent monarch) explains a lot about the famed English expansionist ideal...

Myself, I've always thought that it explained a lot about why English football supporters (I'm a rugby head) couldn't have a couple of beers without trying to smash the town up....that and the fact that the history syllabus is a list of battles where we beat everyone!

[Grahameeboy]

No, we have at least 2 - you furriners just aren't capable of picking the difference. Them bloody Southlanders speak funny. When they venture up into civilisation, they have a Southland accent compared with our cultured tones.
:devil2:
:killingme

I'll huff and I'll puff.....That is cause there aint no difference......I mean ewes have trubs thinking that Scots etc are not Poms cause they have an accent when almost every English County has it's own accent.........aha

[Wolf]

I'll huff and I'll puff.....That is cause there aint no difference......I mean ewes have trubs thinking that Scots etc are not Poms cause they have an accent when almost every English County has it's own accent.........aha
Deth da, Grahameeboy.

Scots, Irish, Welsh, Manx and Cornish all have their own, non-english, languages - they still have the original Celtic languages. The Britons who spoke a Celtic tongue were dispossessed (fleeing to what is now Wales, Cornwall and Brittany and mingling with the tribes that were already there) or assimilated and adopted the emerging Anglo-Saxon language.

The Welsh, Irish, Scots, Manx and Cornish kept their languages despite attempts by the English to wipe those languages out (very nearly succeeded with Cornish but it does still exist).

Ergo, those people are not poms but Celts. Poms are English - a mixture of (very diluted) Celtic, Saxon, Angle, Jute and Norman - irrespective of the accent (or "uccent", MisterD :devil2: )

You can thank the various invaders and a bit of convenient geography for the distinction - Hadrian built his wall to delineate the land, the Saxons built "the pale" to distinguish between their territory and the Celtic tribes they called "Wealu" or foreigners, Cornwall was remote with some pretty nasty boglands between it and the rest of the island and the Isle of Man and Ireland are separated from the rest by water.

Because the invaders decided not to press on or deemed the places worthless, the tribes and their languages flourished outside of the various kingdoms that became known collectively as "England".

BTW, MisterD, I didn't forget the Danes - the Jutes I mentioned were from Denmark.

I did, however, miss out the Isle of Man from previous posts.

'tis not coming from the Ununited Kingdom that makes someone a pom, but coming from England.

My personal definition, anyway - many kiwis might be able to spot a Scots or Irish accent but can't tell the difference between "English" accents and Welsh, Cornish and Isle of Man accents - they'd probably lump them all together as "poms". I've had to correct a fair few ignorant people who think Cornwall is "part of England".

[Grahameeboy]

Deth da, Grahameeboy.

Scots, Irish, Welsh, Manx and Cornish all have their own, non-english, languages - they still have the original Celtic languages. The Britons who spoke a Celtic tongue were dispossessed (fleeing to what is now Wales, Cornwall and Brittany and mingling with the tribes that were already there) or assimilated and adopted the emerging Anglo-Saxon language.

The Welsh, Irish, Scots, Manx and Cornish kept their languages despite attempts by the English to wipe those languages out (very nearly succeeded with Cornish but it does still exist).

Ergo, those people are not poms but Celts. Poms are English - a mixture of (very diluted) Celtic, Saxon, Angle, Jute and Norman - irrespective of the accent (or "uccent", MisterD :devil2: )

You can thank the various invaders and a bit of convenient geography for the distinction - Hadrian built his wall to delineate the land, the Saxons built "the pale" to distinguish between their territory and the Celtic tribes they called "Wealu" or foreigners, Cornwall was remote with some pretty nasty boglands between it and the rest of the island and the Isle of Man and Ireland are separated from the rest by water.

Because the invaders decided not to press on or deemed the places worthless, the tribes and their languages flourished outside of the various kingdoms that became known collectively as "England".

BTW, MisterD, I didn't forget the Danes - the Jutes I mentioned were from Denmark.

I did, however, miss out the Isle of Man from previous posts.

'tis not coming from the Ununited Kingdom that makes someone a pom, but coming from England.

My personal definition, anyway - many kiwis might be able to spot a Scots or Irish accent but can't tell the difference between "English" accents and Welsh, Cornish and Isle of Man accents - they'd probably lump them all together as "poms". I've had to correct a fair few ignorant people who think Cornwall is "part of England".

Took your time Mr Wolf.....been to the library......I agree.......:drinknsin

I am still me though.....for better or worse I hear ewe say

[Wolf]

Took your time Mr Wolf.....been to the library......I agree.......:drinknsin

I am still me though.....for better or worse I hear ewe say
Yeah. When all is said and done, it matters not a jot or tittle what labels others place on you.

I only use terms like "pom" or "paddy" in fun and have the distinction set for purposes of counter argument for those who call people "bloody whinging poms" - "actually, he's Welsh, not a pom" or "the term you were looking for is 'bloody whinging Welsh git'." :devil2:

I also have a lot of fun ragging the English about being bloody Saxons or Normans - barbarian invaders and river pirates - but it's all in good fun.

I'm a mix of Cornish, Irish, Welsh and Scots on mum's side of the family and Scots and Saxon on dad's side and there's bound to be Angle, Jute and Norman River Pirate in the mix somewhere, so I figure I can take the piss out of as many Ununited Kingdom races as I like with perfect impunity as I'm scoring "own goals".

[Grahameeboy]

Yeah. When all is said and done, it matters not a jot or tittle what labels others place on you.

I only use terms like "pom" or "paddy" in fun and have the distinction set for purposes of counter argument for those who call people "bloody whinging poms" - "actually, he's Welsh, not a pom" or "the term you were looking for is 'bloody whinging Welsh git'." :devil2:

I also have a lot of fun ragging the English about being bloody Saxons or Normans - barbarian invaders and river pirates - but it's all in good fun.

I'm a mix of Cornish, Irish, Welsh and Scots on mum's side of the family and Scots and Saxon on dad's side and there's bound to be Angle, Jute and Norman River Pirate in the mix somewhere, so I figure I can take the piss out of as many Ununited Kingdom races as I like with perfect impunity as I'm scoring "own goals".

That is what King John thought too........I am a mix of English, Irish and Welsh.......I still agree with you

[TwoSeven]

Deth da, Grahameeboy.

Scots, Irish, Welsh, Manx and Cornish all have their own, non-english, languages - they still have the original Celtic languages. The Britons who spoke a Celtic tongue were dispossessed (fleeing to what is now Wales, Cornwall and Brittany and mingling with the tribes that were already there) or assimilated and adopted the emerging Anglo-Saxon language.

The Welsh, Irish, Scots, Manx and Cornish kept their languages despite attempts by the English to wipe those languages out (very nearly succeeded with Cornish but it does still exist).


Really ?

I thought they spoke a common language up until the angels arrived :)

What about the Caldonii (picts), Taexali, Carvetii. Venicones, Epidii, Novantii, Selgovae, Votadini, Brigantes, Parisi, Cornovi, Decangli, Ordovoices, Corieltauvi, Icini, Dematae, Catuvellauni, Silures, Dubunni, Dumnonii, Durotriges, Belgae, Atrebates, Regni, Cantaci and Trinovanties.

I'm sure many of those tribes may have not even known there were people called the welsh and scots in existence. They certainly all found out about the Angels and the Saxons and the Jutes and the Frisians :)

The anglens and the saxons (anglo-saxons) didnt come over from germany until after the romans left in 410AD. And it was then that wales (part of mercia), cornwall and scotland (partly northumbria) were starting to be created (the rest was called angleland). Up until then they were part of Britania Prima and Britania Superia.

Personally sometimes I think the angli (english) should learn to speak celtish rather than trying to make the celts speak english. It would be a lot easier :)

[riffer]

Ergo, those people are not poms but Celts.

Some common sense at last.

Having the bastard English trying to subjugate your population at the point of the sword or gun does not, and will not, ever make you a POM.

[dawnrazor]

don't forget the vikings with all their raping and pilage, they must have polluted the gene pool somewhat and had a significant infulance on the culture.

[Wolf]

Really ?

I thought they spoke a common language up until the angels arrived :)

They actually spoke variants of two main language groups - "Brythonic" and "Goidelic" (also referred to as "P-Celtic" and "Q-Celtic" respectively by linguists.) Scots Gaelic, Irish, and Manx being Goidelic languages, Cornish, Welsh, Breton (Brittany), and the languages of most of the ancient "Britons" being Brythonic languages.

Linguistic evidence suggests that the languages were one many many years prior and definitely related to the languages spoken by continental Celts from Hungary to Gaul.


What about the Caldonii (picts), Taexali, Carvetii. Venicones, Epidii, Novantii, Selgovae, Votadini, Brigantes, Parisi, Cornovi, Decangli, Ordovoices, Corieltauvi, Icini, Dematae, Catuvellauni, Silures, Dubunni, Dumnonii, Durotriges, Belgae, Atrebates, Regni, Cantaci and Trinovanties.
Many different tribes, some of whom spoke a version of Brythonic, others spoke a variant of Goidelic.


I'm sure many of those tribes may have not even known there were people called the welsh and scots in existence. They certainly all found out about the Angels and the Saxons and the Jutes and the Frisians :)

Actually, they found out about the Romans first and tribal structure in some areas had been supplanted by Imperialism - leading to a strong Nationalist contingent after the Romans pulled out - countered by those who wanted to revert to pre-Roman tribalism. It was into that mess that the Saxons, Angles and Jutes came.

As to the Scots - the word "Scotti" means raider and they were raiders from Ireland (Goidelic speaking) who invaded the "Pictish" people (Caledonii, "Picti" being a Roman term meaning "painted people") they weren't a tribe as such until they had taken control of the area and the place started being known as "Scotland"

Welsh were a variety of tribes - some incumbent and some from the middle of the island fleeing the Saxons - named "Wealu" ("foreigner") by the Saxons, whence comes the name Welsh. Thier own collective name is "Cymru"

Kernow, former home of the Dumnonii tribe, became known as Cornwall.

As to knowledge of other tribes: trade was well known - they weren't always warring. Fashions in Europe migrated to the Isles (once thought by historians to be proof of invasion, the "La Tene" style artifacts in the isles were found to have been locally manufactured and had regional differences suggesting the flow of "fashion" along trade routes rather than the importation of foriegn artifacts by invaders)

They did not know about the "Welsh" or the "Scots" for those names did not exist, but they certainly knew of and traded with or warred with other tribes in those areas.

[Wolf]

don't forget the vikings with all their raping and pilage, they must have polluted the gene pool somewhat and had a significant infulance on the culture.
And trading - their interactions weren't always aggressive. Red hair for the Irish and Scots and the "Celtic" knotwork patterns and zoomorphic forms with intertwined limbs are "Viking" in origin with a "local" spin.

[Wolf]

Personally sometimes I think the angli (english) should learn to speak celtish rather than trying to make the celts speak english. It would be a lot easier :)
At least Welsh, Cornish and both Irish and Scots Gaelic are phonetically spelled (once you learn their alphabets and rules of spelling) - hear it, you can spell it; read it, you know how to say it.

And it'd probably have been less painful for both the English and the Celts...

[boomer]

Cornwall isn't part of England? :mellow: ummm k!? I did note you say in your persoanl definition. I therfore assume in your world your not an idjiot :moon:

On a different note, im from South Yorkshire and often asked , by the kiwi's, which part of Scotland or Ireland i'm from. From now on my response will be
"in my world i'm not an idjiot" :sherlock:

[Wolf]

Cornwall isn't part of England? :mellow: ummm k!? I did note you say in your persoanl definition. I therfore assume in your world your not an idjiot :moon:
Only the English think it's part of England. :devil2:

However, to the Cornish, the English will always be "them furriners" who are prepared to pay good money for fine French Brandy and aren't too particular about where it came from or whether the excise tax has been paid...

(Excuse me while I stick my straw back in my mouth)
Arrrrhhh!

[MisterD]

don't forget the vikings with all their raping and pilage, they must have polluted the gene pool somewhat and had a significant infulance on the culture.

In deference to another thread yesterday this is a fact (not a factoid and certainly not a "fact")

Viking is not actually a name for a people, but the verb for the activity they performed ie all that rape and pillage etc.

Anyhoo, those people generally called Danes left a huge mark on the land and the language. They very nearly supplanted the Anglo-Saxons but we and our language were saved by Alfred the Great.

[zooter]

Poms support English sports teams when they play Australia. I doubt Irishmen do. What say the real Irishmen?

[boomer]

Poms support English sports teams when they play Australia. I doubt Irishmen do. What say the real Irishmen?

you'll be lucky to get a response Zooter, most scousers that can swim definately can't read:lol:

[Kornholio]

Hey, youre Canadian anyway Bjorn :P

[boomer]

Hey, youre Canadian anyway Bjorn :P

and your my bitch! your point is??







go to bed ya fucker :p

[Kornholio]

I was merely pointing out that youre a complete twat...stating the obvious I know

And Ill go to bed when Im damn good and ready...actually I was going now anyway :P

[boomer]

I was merely pointing out that youre a complete twat...stating the obvious I know

And Ill go to bed when Im damn good and ready...actually I was going now anyway :P



dank ew, pleze call agin!

[MisterD]

Poms support English sports teams when they play Australia. I doubt Irishmen do. What say the real Irishmen?

There's a flaw in that argument Zooter. My Father in Law still operates on the "I support two teams, NZ and anyone playing Australia" principle, even when it comes to England.

[zooter]

There's a flaw in that argument Zooter. My Father in Law still operates on the "I support two teams, NZ and anyone playing Australia" principle, even when it comes to England.
I take it your fatherinlaw calls himself a Kiwi? He'd be a real exception on that one. I consider "except for the Poms" to be an unwritten bit of fine print to the "two teams" rule.

[dawnrazor]

Poms support English sports teams when they play Australia. I doubt Irishmen do. What say the real Irishmen?
Speaking as one who originally hails from the scred shores of the emerald isle, I might be able to pour some light on this one.
Ahem, right if you are talking about rugby in the above example, then about 5% of the nation will care, leaving the other 98% to watch the premiership soccer!

Rugby is not a big game in Ireland, at least compared to here or aussie, pesonally speaking I couldn't give a toss who wins in this particular pair up.
Now if you think rugby has a poor following then don't even think about cricket, here is a game that every Irish person is genetically predisposed to hate and ultimately not understand, I didn't even know we had a national team until a couple of years ago - by all accounts they are shite!

Now football is a different matter, that has taken over as the main sport and is as wide spread as rugby is here. So in the aussie V england match, we would be looking for as many injuries and red cards on both sides as possible, mind you the chances of aussies pulling out a win are remote.

To be honest because Austrailia and England have been responsible for knock Ireland out of several world championships (rugby, fooball) they are both hated for their dream-ending abilities

So don't even get me started on Gaelic football and Hurling, a couple of fast games with hard as nails play, everyone I know has scars on them from those games - thats what being hit on the back of the head with a solid lump of Ash bound with metal strips will give ya.

[MisterD]

I take it your fatherinlaw calls himself a Kiwi? He'd be a real exception on that one. I consider "except for the Poms" to be an unwritten bit of fine print to the "two teams" rule.

A "Coaster" first and "Kiwi" second....but I don't think it's that much of an exception. It's a reasonably even split on the rugby, but I don't know a single Kiwi who wasn't happy about us taking the Ashes back.

[Grahameeboy]

I am not sure who I am now!!!:doh:

[MisterD]

So don't even get me started on Gaelic football and Hurling, a couple of fast games with hard as nails play, everyone I know has scars on them from those games - thats what being hit on the back of the head with a solid lump of Ash bound with metal strips will give ya.

The Irish sports assoc that runs these games has/had a clause in their constitution expelling anyone who attended an "English" game (ie rugby or soccer)...there's a story (true or myth I don't know) that the Cheif Exec of the association was expelled for attending an Irish international soccer match in his official capacity....you've just gotta love the logic of the Irish! :rofl:

[dawnrazor]

The Irish sports assoc that runs these games has/had a clause in their constitution expelling anyone who attended an "English" game (ie rugby or soccer)...there's a story (true or myth I don't know) that the Cheif Exec of the association was expelled for attending an Irish international soccer match in his official capacity....you've just gotta love the logic of the Irish! :rofl:

Maybe in years gone by, but not now the pressure on the stadiums to host football events is huge, so now those examples of foolishness are less common. There is no denying that these two sports are HUGELY sectarian and white, mainly because anyone in their right mind wouldn't be caught playing such a violent sport at an amatuer level (no professionals allowed), all these guys have jobs like you and me and then play like mentalers at the weekend)

[dawnrazor]

whay i'm liking here is that i've hi-jacked a thread about the english and turned it into one about the irish, and it hasn'y been moved to "rant'n'rave" yet

[Grahameeboy]

whay i'm liking here is that i've hi-jacked a thread about the english and turned it into one about the irish, and it hasn'y been moved to "rant'n'rave" yet

Terriorist you..................

[dawnrazor]

Terriorist you..................


Mum mum, i've been slandered by the filthy opressive sassenach

[MisterD]

Mum mum, i've been slandered by the filthy opressive sassenach

If the big green hat with the buckle fits.....


"The Lord God gave us many great words to use, but the greatest of these is "NO!"." - Rev Ian Paisley

[Grahameeboy]

Mum mum, i've been slandered by the filthy opressive sassenach

filth......don't ya just luuuuuuvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv..it

[dawnrazor]

If the big green hat with the buckle fits.....


"The Lord God gave us many great words to use, but the greatest of these is "NO!"." - Rev Ian Paisley

Na - its a an averaged sized black hat with an iridium visor, but a balaclava is more appropiate

[Wolf]

Mum mum, i've been slandered by the filthy opressive sassenach
So just blow oop th' fooker's fookin' car!

[dawnrazor]

So just blow oop th' fooker's fookin' car!

Mum wolf is talking funny and his spelling has gone to shite. But I think he said

"Your a marked man, kiss your kneecaps goodbye"

[Wolf]

Mum wolf is talking funny and his spelling has gone to shite. But I think he said

"Your a marked man, kiss your kneecaps goodbye"
Faith an' begorrah, to be sure, to be sure. :rofl:

Good thing about knee-capping is that the bugger lives to learn a valuable lesson and perhaps tell others not to be unwise...

[dawnrazor]

Good thing about knee-capping is that the bugger lives to learn a valuable lesson and perhaps tell others not to be unwise...

Now I don't think I've ever heard or seen a sentence start with

"The good thing about knee-capping..."

before, but there you go - first time for everything I guess.

By all accounts it clears the arthritis right up!

[Wolf]

Now I don't think I've ever heard or seen a sentence start with

"The good thing about knee-capping..."

before, but there you go - first time for everything I guess.
I live to provide new experiences for others...

[dawnrazor]

I live to provide new experiences for others...

abraimis go bhfuil an ceart agat faolchú mór!

[Wolf]

abraimis go bhfuil an ceart agat faolchú mór!
To quote an Irish band: "I'm hardly ever wrong" :killingme

[dawnrazor]

To quote an Irish band: "I'm hardly ever wrong" :killingme

'tis as I assumed then :rolleyes:

[Wolf]

'tis as I assumed then :rolleyes:
Yes, I am a smart-arsed bastard with delusions of grandeur.


In short: "Your typical kiwi"

[zooter]

Speaking as one who originally hails from the scred shores of the emerald isle, I might be able to pour some light on this one.
Ahem, right if you are talking about rugby in the above example, then about 5% of the nation will care, leaving the other 98% to watch the premiership soccer!

Now if you think rugby has a poor following then don't even think about cricket, here is a game that every Irish person is genetically predisposed to hate and ultimately not understand, I didn't even know we had a national team until a couple of years ago - by all accounts they are shite!


The Irish maths is a dead giveaway, here we have the good oil.

If the poster even gives a shit about the ashes he is a POM

[Wolf]

If the poster even gives a shit about the ashes he is a POM
Or, worse, a bloody Aussie!