Copying DVDs?

[XTC]

What's the best program for copying DVD's? Especially protected ones. You know for making "backup" copies :)?

[riffer]

DVD Shrink & Nero.

pm me for further details, if you're interested.

[Wasp]

Ripping to the computer is possible but most "commercial" dvds (movies etc...) are 8 gbs in size and ive only ever seen 4gb burnable dvds for sale. see the delimma?

[Lias]

I second that, and also add DVD-Decrypter in for those (few) discs that DVD-Shrink cant deal with the protection / read errors.

[flash]

i think its called foxdvd or clone dvd? (seacrh google, and download.com), its from the guys that made clone cd

clone cd was the best program i ever used, it never failed to copy anything (on cd), so the dvd program should be no different.

[flash]

Ripping to the computer is possible but most "commercial" dvds (movies etc...) are 8 gbs in size and ive only ever seen 4gb burnable dvds for sale. see the delimma?
you can get double layer dvds now that hold over 8 gigabytes

[Lias]

Ripping to the computer is possible but most "commercial" dvds (movies etc...) are 8 gbs in size and ive only ever seen 4gb burnable dvds for sale. see the delimma?
You can buy blank dual layer DVD's now which are 9gb, but the beauty of the DVD-Shrink is that it recodes the movie (takes several hours, even on a fairly modern PC) to fit on a standard single layer blank. Most of the time the quality difference is negligable.. You can also remove all the extras and crap as well if you need too to improve the rip quality.

[SimJen]

Yep like he said......
Some good info sites:

http://www.doom9.org
http://www.digital-digest.com/dvd/index.php

Good luck with your illegal copying ;)

[flash]

Good luck with your illegal copying ;)
no, hes backing up dvds, totaly legal........;)

[riffer]

Good luck finding DVD Shrink now.

It's creater was hired by Nero to work on the latest Nero software.

The code from DVD Shrink was used to create Nero Recode, which will not copy copyrighted DVDs.

DVD Decripter is very good too, but only extracts the data off the DVD. You can, of course use DVDShrink or Nero Recode to recode the data to a smaller DVD once it's on your hard drive.

Another handy program is DVD43 (dvd for free), which is a behind the scenes application which decripts the DVD on the fly.

Another great DVD Back-uper is 123 Studio's DVDXCopy Platinum, another which met its demise at the hands of corporate lawyers. However, it can be found ... if you know where to look, or who to ask...

[SimJen]

I was reading somewhere that people don't actually have a right to make backups that it was a phalacy (sp) spread by the internet.
Who cares anyway :)

[flash]

i think your allowed one copy, if you have the orriginal

[ZeroIndex]

CloneDVD is the best for making 1:1 backup copies of DVD-Movies... it shrinks the movie to fit a blank DVD-R perfectly, leaving subtitles menues etc intact.

[zeRax]

took me an hour and 20 mins to convert at low priority from 8gb down to 4.3gb or whatever, but what i do is rip the dvd to an iso using dvd decryptor and then mount it with daemon tools and use dvd shrink on the mounted image/drive, think it works out to be alot faster ^_^

[cowboyz]

You can buy blank dual layer DVD's now which are 9gb, but the beauty of the DVD-Shrink is that it recodes the movie (takes several hours, even on a fairly modern PC) to fit on a standard single layer blank. Most of the time the quality difference is negligable.. You can also remove all the extras and crap as well if you need too to improve the rip quality.


My machine is ageing now. (XP2100+ 768Meg RAM) and I can reencode a DVD from 8gig to 4 in 30 mins. Not hours. Most DVDs are not 8gig though and most take about 10-15mins to reencode and then 15 mins to burn.

you can get dvd shrink 3 (http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~cowboyz/dvds3.zip) here.

It is pretty self explanatory. (is that a word??)

[Drum]

I use:
DVD Decrypter
DVD2One
Nero

[Harry33]

Here's another to look at....

I use Magic dvd. It's pretty good. You can convert dvd into avi's etc.

http://www.magicdvdripper.com/

[Winston001]

took me an hour and 20 mins to convert at low priority from 8gb down to 4.3gb or whatever, but what i do is rip the dvd to an iso using dvd decryptor and then mount it with daemon tools and use dvd shrink on the mounted image/drive, think it works out to be alot faster ^_^

Same here except I don't use Daemon tools.

The process is to copy the DVD using DVD Decrypter, which saves to an ISO image which is recorded separately on your hard drive.
You then run it through DVDShrink, choosing to leave out bits you don't want if you can be bothered. The size is reduced to approx 4.3gb. Quality is very good.
You can then burn it using Nero or whatever DVD burning program you have. In fact I think DVD Decrypter can burn the image too but I use Nero.

An earlier version of DVDShrink would burn disks but had problems so the latest version doesn't.

Experiment and see how you get on. Buy a couple of DVD-RW discs and try decrypting, shrinking and burning. Once you get it right you can then go to work - on your archive copy. :motu:

I've not tried CloneDVD or MagicDVD so give them a try too if necessary.

Use DVD-R (pronounced dash R ) for preference. It is the most widely read format for different DVD players.

It can take a couple of hours initially to do all of this but about 90mins once you get the hang of it.

[zadok]

Slysoft - AnyDVD (Removes copyright protection etc)
CloneDVD2 to do the encoding/compression.
Works a treat.

[Slingshot]

If you want to do it right you'll need to use DVD Decrypter to decrypte the individual files, then VobBlanker to edit the structure of the DVD and then DVD Shrink to re-author and burn.

The beauty of VobBlanker is that you can edit the individual Vob, which means you can remove the shit you don't want but still leave the menu structure intact. Often I'll make two disks out of one original, one with the main content and the other with special features etc, all still with working menus.

I've generally found that movies aren't such a problem as most of them can be compressed without noticable quality loss and you generally have at least two sound tracks, normally I get rid of the PCM track. Music DVDs are a different story though as the don't seem to handle the compression as well...not sure why though, often the bonus material is worth keeping on music DVDs too.

[zadok]

Sounds awfully fidly there Slingshot. My way is soooooo easy.

[Slingshot]

Sounds awfully fidly there Slingshot. My way is soooooo easy.

Yeah...but if you want something done right.

[curious george]

no, hes backing up dvds, totaly legal........;)
Actually, totally illegal.
NZ copyright makes no concession for 'fair-use' or 'back-ups' like some other countries.
NZ is actually vey restrictive on what you can/can't do. Mostly you can't.
Wait! I can hear the rozzers breaking down your door now!
*checks puter*
*delete*
*delete*
*delete*

[Badcat]

Actually, totally illegal.
NZ copyright makes no concession for 'fair-use' or 'back-ups' like some other countries.
NZ is actually vey restrictive on what you can/can't do. Mostly you can't.
Wait! I can hear the rozzers breaking down your door now!
*checks puter*
*delete*
*delete*
*delete*

yes.
amazingly, nz laws are not the same as US laws.
who'd of thought that?

[zeRax]

i burn using dvd shrink in same process , version 3.2 np's , tis wicked proggy ;> so fast~

aaah, didnt notice u can open image files within dvdshrink, no need to mount then i guess, shot.

seems to take about 20 mins to do tyhe actual reencoding on a full dvd9 image into a dvd5 size, O_o dvdshrink forever~!

edit; go the post spam :\

[wkid_one]

Use DVD Xcopy 4.0.3.8...does all copying in 4 clicks of the mouse.

[SimJen]

Use DVD-R (pronounced dash R ) for preference. It is the most widely read format for different DVD players.

Not really correct. The differences are minimal. I've had minimal problems with DVD+R's.

Info from http://www.videohelp.com/dvd:

DVD-R and DVD-RW
DVD-R was the first DVD recording format released that was compatible with standalone DVD Players.
DVD-R is a non-rewriteable format and it is compatible with about 93% of all DVD Players and most DVD-ROMs.
DVD-RW is a rewriteable format and it is compatible with about 80% of all DVD Players and most DVD-ROMs.
DVD-R and DVD-RW supports single side 4.37 computer GB* DVDs(called DVD-5) and double sided 8.75 computer GB* DVDs(called DVD-10).
These formats are supported by DVDForum.

DVD+R and DVD+RW
DVD+R is a non-rewritable format and it is compatible with about 89% of all DVD Players and most DVD-ROMs.
DVD+RW is a rewritable format and is compatible with about 79% of all DVD Players and most DVD-ROMs.
DVD+R and DVD+RW supports single side 4.37 computer GB* DVDs(called DVD-5) and double side 8.75 computer GB* DVDs(called DVD-10).
These formats are supported by the DVD+RW Alliance.

[phantom]

I use "anydvd" to remove copy protection and area coding and "clonedvd2" to do the actual backing up

[tracyprier]

Good luck finding DVD Shrink now.

It's creater was hired by Nero to work on the latest Nero software.

The code from DVD Shrink was used to create Nero Recode, which will not copy copyrighted DVDs.

DVD Decripter is very good too, but only extracts the data off the DVD. You can, of course use DVDShrink or Nero Recode to recode the data to a smaller DVD once it's on your hard drive.

Another handy program is DVD43 (dvd for free), which is a behind the scenes application which decripts the DVD on the fly.

Another great DVD Back-uper is 123 Studio's DVDXCopy Platinum, another which met its demise at the hands of corporate lawyers. However, it can be found ... if you know where to look, or who to ask...

Axtually it's right here at www.dvdshrink.org and it's free :)

[deathstar]

did no body think when they were typing that they copy dvd's? 1 this is an illegal thread and yeah do what you will with your time but if anyone cop wise gets a sniff of it then a few could be in trouble.

[Winston001]

did no body think when they were typing that they copy dvd's? 1 this is an illegal thread and yeah do what you will with your time but if anyone cop wise gets a sniff of it then a few could be in trouble.

No argument with that but the internet has thousands of posts and articles on how to decrypt - and almost all are anonymous. A recording company could try to track individual people down through forum registration but the time and effort isn't normally worth it. Instead they go after the program writers and websites which host the software. And if its in Rumania then.......... :angry2:


SimJen


Not really correct. The differences are minimal. I've had minimal problems with DVD+R's.

Fair enough and the ability of machines to read the various formats is getting better all the time. However it can be confusing for a novice to be confronted with DVD-R, DVD+R, DVD RAM , RW etc so the conservative position is DVD-R by a small margin. But I agree that DVD+R is fine too.

[YellowDog]

Once I have permission from the owner of the material, I use DVD DeCrypter to get the image off and then DVD Shrink to put them on a new DVD. But then I've been doing it for years. I agree with the other posters that later versions of DVD Shrink should do the whole lot for you.

[YellowDog]

Being law abiding citizens, we always get written permission from the copyright owner, or we just don't do it.

[Disco Dan]

Theres always one that throws a tanty about it being illegal... *rolls eyes*

"Gordian Knot" is by far the most comprehensive utility for ripping and encoding I have found. Allows you to specify the size of the finished movie to fit on whatever media you choose. You can also play around with subtitles and sync the video-audio up if they drift off etc which is handy for some dodgey movies. It is fairly complicated at first but once you get your head around it, it allows you to do so much more than DVD-Shrink etc... Which FYI has a very poor encoder compared to the Gordian Knot system.

PM me if you would like a copy.

[BIGBOSSMAN]

If I was interested in 'backing up' any dvd's (commercial or otherwise) on my Mac, I'd use a freeware program called Mac The Ripper to rip the file onto my hard drive - it apparently allows the 'ripee' the ability to do away with un-needed soundtracks, subtitles and extras etc. Then I'd possibly use Toast Titanium to burn the said 'back-up' copy. Alledgedly, it works flawlessly. Theoretically speaking of course. :done:

[bull]

If one was inclined to backup a dvd, itheyd probally use DVD Shrink, use it to remove all the languages except english and drop video quality down(about 25min). Then use Nero to put it on 4gb DVD (6min), so its not too long a process if someone was to do it. Oh and then one would probally go here http://www.cdcovers.cc/ to get a cover and print to put into blank case(from warehouse) if inclined to do so.

[Disco Dan]

If I was interested in 'backing up' any dvd's (commercial or otherwise) on my Mac, I'd use a freeware program called Mac The Ripper to rip the file onto my hard drive - it apparently allows the 'ripee' the ability to do away with un-needed soundtracks, subtitles and extras etc. Then I'd possibly use Toast Titanium to burn the said 'back-up' copy. Alledgedly, it works flawlessly. Theoretically speaking of course. :done:

Yeeas I 'heard' that is possible too :innocent:

I really dont want to pay for Toast though, Does Toast Titanium include the 'jam' add-on?

For those not clever enough to have bought a mac yet "toast" is like saying "nero". You can get Toast with jam, which is the DVD add on I believe.

[lb99]

Slysoft - AnyDVD (Removes copyright protection etc)
CloneDVD2 to do the encoding/compression.
Works a treat.


I second that, it works well, I even use transonic dvds with no problems, although ripped dvds dont seem to play on a ps2

[iwilde]

Region free and clonedvd. Those two are all you need. PM me if you need help

[Indiana_Jones]

Even if you're coping a few DVD's for yourself, they're hardly gonna bust your door down to come and get you (they're too busy looking for speeders).

They really want the people that make 20+ copies to flog off

:D

-Indy

[Winston001]

...............although ripped dvds dont seem to play on a ps2

Er......well they wouldn't would they? I mean, that's naughty. Mr Sony couldn't possibly agree to you making a backup.

I suspect you may need a mod chip in the PS2?

[lb99]

Er......well they wouldn't would they? I mean, that's naughty. Mr Sony couldn't possibly agree to you making a backup.

I suspect you may need a mod chip in the PS2?

ermm.... didn't mr sony invent the mini disc player?, where do you buy pre recorded mini disks from??


I always thought that was a tad hippocritical, Sony spewing about ripping cds/dvds, and marketing a device that requires you to copy stuff to it to enable you to use it

[BIGBOSSMAN]

Yeeas I 'heard' that is possible too :innocent:

I really dont want to pay for Toast though, Does Toast Titanium include the 'jam' add-on?

For those not clever enough to have bought a mac yet "toast" is like saying "nero". You can get Toast with jam, which is the DVD add on I believe.

Dan I think the latest version of Toast does (v8.0.1). It also supports burning to Blu-Ray drives, for those early adopter millionaires amongst us :msn-wink: