Are BMW riders prats?

[crshbndct]

I flatted with a guy who rode bmw's for a while. he was a pompous arse, ending up hitting me in the face over a $6 food bill. he was of the opinion that "the jappa's are an inferior bike, and can never match the performance of a real bike like a R1100 RT" (Or whatever bke it was)
I attempted to explain to him that things like the hayabusa, zx10 etc, are the fastest bike around, but he reckoned that the beemers were the best ever. he would scoff at other bikes with disdain.

then in the newest KR, there is an article about a bmw track day where 90% of them had never been to a track day before.

and the other article about the chatto creek 1000 miler seemed to show a lot of disdain for the three sportbike riders that were cahsing the bloke. he semed very anally retentive about fuel consumtion, mileage, and that kind of numbers crap.

i would like to hear from a bmw rider who likes riding not to just ponce on about his bikes advantages over other ones, but who actually just rides becasue he loves it.

i have a feeling its becasue of the exorbitant prices they sell for mean that there is a degree of defensiveness and a feeling that they need to explain to the world why they bought a bike that is not much better than a variety of others for half the price.

[zadok]

I have met some nice BMW riders. I wouldn't judge them on a prat that happens to own one.

[Ixion]

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i would like to hear from a bmw rider who likes riding not to just ponce on about his bikes advantages over other ones, but who actually just rides becasue he loves it.
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Hi, then. And I guess after 40 years of riding , on scores of different bikes,Briddish, German, Czech, Jappa most of which I imagine you'd never have heard of, I guess I can say I ride because I love it.

As to why BMW. Because there are few other bikes that can match them for being able to cruise for hundreds of kilometres every day, day after day, and dismount at the end of each day relaxed, un-muscle-bound, and ready for another day tomorrow. They're far from being perfect, but still one of the best for effortless mile-eating. 'Tis nice to have Phoebe and Ratty for hooning, too, but. Oh, and I wave to every biker I see, crusiers, sprotbikes, dirtbikes, scooters, minibikes, anything with two or three wheels is good by me.

[Eurodave]

I have a Beemer, an '82 R65 which is a really good town hack but no good at fast loaded 2 up touring, I also own a few Guzzis, which are excellant touring bikes but are cumbersome round town, I also own a Suzuki GS750,an excellant sports bike in '78 & still no slouch, then of course, Ive got a CX 500 with a Sabiston sidecar, a really good combo & on it goes, my point is that Im not Euro exclusive or Beemer exclusive, there are many bikes out there, all waiting to be ridden & enjoyed :done:

[Bonez]

Dad owns an R80 and he's definately not a prat. I owned one for three years, an R65. Was in a sad state of irrational of insaneness it turns out ;). Made a nice winter project in my old airforce flat though. Different stokes and all that. Btw whats going to a BMW trackday ment to prove? Nothing wrong with knowing a bit about fuel consumtion, milage etc either especially if one is on a tight budget-my Ducati riding freind, for example, does exactly that.

[Jackrat]

I/we have a couple of BMW riders in our club an their very nice people.
Bloody top folks actualy.
You do realize that if you take your hands off the bars to wave if your on a BMW the tourqe reaction will make them fall over.:blip: :lol:

[Bonez]

BMW the tourqe reaction will make them fall over.:blip: :lol: May I quote you JR?:rolleyes:

[Blackbird]

I had a BMW K100RS for 7 years before the Blackbird and loved it to bits. It didn't handle as well as a sports bike but it could still move along nicely, knocking off the 1000mile in 24 hours Grand Challenge in 18 hours one year. I'm sure that Andy, Beemers lesser half:Oops: would also back up just how good they are. Some Beemer riders can be anally retentive, just as some jappa riders can be complete dickheads too. What bike someone rides means sweet Fanny Adams. It does however, mean a lot that they actually ride though:niceone: :niceone: Vive la diference.

[Jackrat]

May I quote you JR?:rolleyes:

Hell no!!
If you say that out in public,I wasn't there OK.

[Bonez]

Hell no!!
If you say that out in public,I wasn't there OK.
I wont tell- honest ind'n :whistle:

[Al]

I ride a BMW F650GS, bought it because I liked it at that time (still do), and feel the same as the majority that it doesn't matter what brand of motorcycle you ride..:spudwhat:

Al

[VasalineWarrior]

There not all twats. I know a couple, and they bought them mostly for the fact they can cover long miles without getting a sore butt, and to carry a pillion. Tend to be older though, and went through a jap bike/sports bike stage themselves. Judge em by personality, not their bikes label

[98tls]

sounds like your flatmate was a complete wanker,you should have put him on his arse.i go with the rest of them that you cant judge a guy or girl by what they ride,in saying that there seems to be a large number of dickheads that ride hardlys,no im not saying all just a disproportionate number.

[thehollowmen]

Some are nice

One in particular has given me advice and saved my arse many times.

Then again some jappa riders can be arses too.

[pritch]

You can find arseholes on all sorts of bikes.

I used to own a BMW (K100RS)I now own a Honda. Could own another BMW one day but currently they are all seriously ugly muthas.

Once upon a time, in living memory, (well mine anyway) BMWs were built by tradesmen. They were the most reliable bikes available anywhere and first choice of every globetrotter. Then they opened a factory in Berlin(?) employed assembly line workers, and became vulnerable to all the frailties of semi-skilled mass production.

These days Honda apparently make the most reliable bikes but in the words of one road test I read ,
"BMW still make the only bikes on which you can ride 1000k and still feel like dancing." Which sort of sums it up.

None of which is cause for a superiority complex on the part of BMW owners, unless they were that way inclined anyway.

[Pixie]

There is nothing special about BMW's ergonomics.
They have just continued to retain a sensible seating position with some adjustability,where many other bike manufacturers give priority to styling.Wether it's sport bike or cruiser.Neither will be as comfortable as a conventional seating positition.

[Posh Tourer :P]

BMW perhaps attracts ponces who want to be able to ponce about something. I'm ride an R100S around Europe cos it is comfy, will cruise at 90mph fully loaded, and be comfy all day. I've ridden other things too, but the BM was the obvious choice because of insurance, cheapness, knowledge of the bike etc etc. I fully accept that a new Bandit 600 is a faster and better bike than my '80 R100, but I don't care. I enjoy having a twin, low revving thing thumping away underneath me. Back in NZ, I'm normally last on KB rides because my 82 R65LS dont have the top speed, but who cares. I have great fun scraping things through the twisties. And it is good round town, and on gravel etc. Suits the kind of riding I do. I wont argue that it is great. BMW still make the worst gearboxes on the market, and there are other things I'd love to have better.

I ride BMs cos I know about them, they are cheap and easy to fix, and somehow I enjoy being on something so completely different to anything else on the road.

[**R1**]

I worked with a guy that was beemer mad, but he said he only liked them coz he was scared of bikes like mine...

but he was a nice guy that did more miles in one year than i ever will

[SixPackBack]

I flatted with a guy who rode bmw's for a while. he was a pompous arse, ending up hitting me in the face over a $6 food bill. he was of the opinion that "the jappa's are an inferior bike, and can never match the performance of a real bike like a R1100 RT" (Or whatever bke it was)
I attempted to explain to him that things like the hayabusa, zx10 etc, are the fastest bike around, but he reckoned that the beemers were the best ever. he would scoff at other bikes with disdain.

Your ex flatmate sounds like a total cock head.....owning and being questionably delusional about BMW's says more about his flawed character than quality machinery......hope you kicked his bike off the stand!.......most motorcycles have a redeeming aspect that sets them apart, personally I would be happy to ride with any make of bike, perhaps as this case shows the pilot is of more concern!

[Lou Girardin]

You'll get all types, but there is a certain type that "appreciates fine Bavarian engineering" that German vehicles attract.
Then there was the couple that bought an RT, all the best BMW riding kit, then went for a ride and had a little whoopsie ( didn't come off) then went straight home and sold the lot.

[bladez]

yes there are all types of riders and some bmw riders think they are god but i found some to be very helpfull when in need like (bugger droped bike again) very nice to lend a helping hand

[keza]

as a owner of a few bmws and some kawasakis the people you tend to have problems with tend to be the modern bmw owners ie have the car want the bike because i think that most people in the motorcycling comunity would help anyone reguardless (i would)and as for the difficult ones just shrug it off mate go for a ride far better than dwelling on dickheads opinions but whos to say he doesn't think the same of us different strokes for different folks

[Zebedee]

In the style of Alcoholics anonymous … :beer:

My name is John and I ride BMW motorcycles :D

Am I a prat? Well that all depends on how many ales I've managed to pour down my neck.

Sure there are "better" bikes out there, but how do you judge better anyway? Quicker? Faster? More reliable? More comfortable? Or sexy enough to snap nicker elastic at twenty paces?

As far as I'm concerned the big GS offers ME the best compromise (apart from being pig ugly that is) for a bike that I use every day, and yes I have had it on a track. I even managed to get a peg down.

I also love my old 80 GS, because it is such a simple bit of kit, and with just over 100,000 kms on the clock it's just about run in.

Finally, I don't know about being other BM riders being prats, but these guys (http://www.ukgser.com/forums/) consider it something of an honour to be called a tosser :D