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Cajun

25th January 2006, 16:21

Michelin Pilot Powers

Okay I am a michelin tyre man personally.

I have finally killed my second rear tire on it, after 7500kms, i got simlar milage out of the last rear. So together all up my front as done over 14,500kms. Which is damn good for a high performance sports tire.

Due to the design of a hard center and soft sides, it suits well to my communting/touring/weekend fun riding style, were Most other tires are either two soft, or not hard. This blends the two together.

The first people notice when seeing these tires are the 'sharp' more triangle shape of the tires once fitted to the more standard round shape. This greatly improves cornering ability.

Yes they are expensive. But when compared to the brigestone 014's which i had on and only got 5000kms out of a rear. before it had no tread remaining.

These tires stick well when cold/hot, wet/dry, i never had a single slide out of them even when the tires started lacking tread. I did notice that they did feel a bit strange in the sorta mid to warm period, nothing bad, just strange. I have riden in 80km/h windows, water an inch on the roads. No problems anywhere. I have riden on them on the track were the temp for the day was 28 degree's god only knows what the track temp was.

Puting these tires on my father in laws old bmw k1200rs made a huge different, You didn't have to mussel it so much around the corners. in the handling compared to the dunlop 208's it had previously.

I would recommend these tires to anyone. If you have not tried them do.

Michelin Ads'
" <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td> The softest rubber mix of any comparable tyre

Phenomenal grip; quickly reaches optimum temperature
Maximum lean angle in the dry: 50.6°
Rubber mix remains soft even at lower temperatures, providing excellent grip throughout your ride.

You don't have to be world champion to get your hands on Michelin MotoGP tyre technology. The Pilot Power uses a rubber mix that was originally developed for MotoGP racing, yielding minimal warm-up time and excellent feedback at the limit. This amazing tyre has achieved a maximum lean angle of more than 50 degrees on dry pavement and a remarkable 41.9 degrees in the wet.

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Zed

25th January 2006, 16:30

Great plug for the Pilot Powers Cajun! I am running a 190 P/Power on the rear of my Blade and in the last 3000kms it has been a fantastic tyre in the dry & wet!! :yeah:

Will be sticking with Michelins for some time to come, on this bike anyway. :ride:

ajturbo

25th January 2006, 21:33

mmm.. i need a new rear also... but will it be ok with a perellie (sp?) front?

Devil

26th January 2006, 06:30

Thats good to read. I do similar riding and I was looking at either the Power, or Pirelli Diablo...

**R1**

26th January 2006, 08:50

hell yeah i cant rate the PP's enough, I get 6,000k out of a rear on the R1, the last Pirelli Diablo i had lasted 2,000!!

they are plenty sticky enough in the wet or the dry, and are fantastic on the track as long as you let a 2-3 psi out.....most tyres i have tried wont wheelie in the wet when stone cold but pilot powers do:yes: not sure if thats a good thing or not tho

Fishy

26th January 2006, 08:57

What do the michelin cost for a 190 rear?

Cajun

26th January 2006, 15:36

190 rear you be looking $350ish i would be thinking

onearmedbandit

26th January 2006, 16:07

Get them for around $300 down here!

Zed

26th January 2006, 21:26

What do the michelin cost for a 190 rear?Retail you're paying up to and over $350, but retail's for suckers! and we're all suckers at times...I priced up a 190 Pilot Power just the other day for $300, but the tyre man usually looks after me well on the price!

Tip: Be polite and with a smile on your face say to the shop/salesperson "what's the best price you can do for me?" If you *confidently* use that approach when buying MANY things you will probably pay less for what they are advertising it retail as!! :first:

Dafe

26th January 2006, 22:56

Can't wait for tomorrow!
I just finished mounting my wheels back on my bike with some nice new PP's. Never ridden on them before, so tommorrow is my test day.
Am running 180's on my K6 after much discussion and debate. I went with the recommendation of a few experienced riders.
I really rated the Pilot Sports, wasn't too keen on the BT014's as an all round tyre although the BT014's are definately good when running hot.

Devil

27th January 2006, 07:34

We'll be waiting for your review!

I think i've decided on Powers, just need to sell my street magic so I can afford them :(

Dazza

27th January 2006, 07:59

Good to hear about your milage on the PP,I was getting similar milage on the front of my 2000 Mille R with Diablo's. On the Super Duke the original Diablo on the rear lasted 3000km's and it was totally shagged,gone to the Strada and it's done 3500km's and appears half worn. Sorry for the highjack but I do rate the Strada,on the rear so far anyway;)

Lou Girardin

27th January 2006, 13:21

I can do better than $550.00 per set. PM for price.

Toast

28th January 2006, 12:16

Due to the design of a hard center and soft sides,

Do you mean that it has a different compound for the sides and middle? I didn't think that this was so for the Powers, only for the new Pilot Race series...?

Pilot Powers are awesome tyres though. My personal fave :niceone:

Fatjim

28th January 2006, 12:38

mmm.. i need a new rear also... but will it be ok with a perellie (sp?) front?

the diablos are a very round profile. By the sounds of it the PP's are quite triangular. So no, I'd resist the combo. Try the Diablo Strada if you want a longer lasting tyre for the rear, or go for the michys front and rear.

Cajun

29th January 2006, 08:17

Toast - if you read the information about powers, they run the dual compound. hard center soft sides.

speedmedic - i will nana you boy

Lou Girardin

31st January 2006, 09:12

Do you mean that it has a different compound for the sides and middle? I didn't think that this was so for the Powers, only for the new Pilot Race series...?

Pilot Powers are awesome tyres though. My personal fave :niceone:

Good point, the importers blurb only mentions dual compound on the Power Race model. We certainly can't do Power Race sets for under $550.

Zapf

1st February 2006, 17:49

never knew they had dual compound.... might have to try them for my next set....

steved

6th February 2006, 18:31

Good point, the importers blurb only mentions dual compound on the Power Race model. We certainly can't do Power Race sets for under $550.I agree Lou. I think only the Pilot Races are dual compound.

steved

14th February 2006, 10:05

Looks like they have expanded into dual compounds after-all.

Introducting the Pilot Power 2CT

http://two-wheels.michelin.com/2w/front/affich.jsp?codeRubrique=2092004103725&codePage=2092004103725_07092004135921&lang=EN

Cajun

14th February 2006, 10:32

Yes i will be trying those after my pilot races die

I am sure some of the older material i had on the normal powers said they were dual compound.

No matter they got a dual one now. so should be even better

Devil

15th February 2006, 10:02

Was going to go powers, but i've scored a deal to try out the new Metzeler Sportec M3's. Just got them on the bike so will post a review soon.

Zapf

15th February 2006, 10:10

Was going to go powers, but i've scored a deal to try out the new Metzeler Sportec M3's. Just got them on the bike so will post a review soon.

nice.... I was wanting them a month ago... but was not were to be found....

muzz

15th February 2006, 10:29

Have PP's on the duc and they're the best love them. Getting around 5-6oook on them. 1 front to 2 rear. and i ain't no nanna.

NinjaBoy

15th February 2006, 20:08

Was going to go powers, but i've scored a deal to try out the new Metzeler Sportec M3's. Just got them on the bike so will post a review soon.

Due for a complete set of rubbers in <1000Ks. Was thinking Sportec M1's but would like to hear what the M3's are like ?

DMNTD

27th February 2006, 14:23

Introducting the Pilot Power 2CT
http://two-wheels.michelin.com/2w/front/affich.jsp?codeRubrique=2092004103725&codePage=2092004103725_07092004135921&lang=EN

Has anyone tried these or know of anyone that has? Recently converted to PP's and although a highly impressive tyre the rear is being spat out the back due to some above average acceleration from the back of my scooter :ride:

On a slightly different note I also have been trying out a 180 instead of a 190. Excellent responsive turning etc but have found myself riding off the side of them which surely ain't part of the plan. I'm concidering a 190 next time and was wondering what others experiences where when swapping back...
Cheers

Cajun

27th February 2006, 14:36

Now i am waiting for the rear pilot race to die before i put on a 2ct, but saying that i don't think they are even in the country as of yet.

Bren_chch

27th February 2006, 15:31

Sorry... I thought this was a thread about sniper!

SPman

27th February 2006, 17:29

Put a set of PP's on the SP, but only did a 1000k , afore disposing of said bike to Frosty, thence on to Mental Trousers.
Great tyre for the coromandel.......

jonbuoy

27th February 2006, 19:20

Yup have been great on the VTR1000, sharpened up the slow steering a bit and very fast to warm up. I had Diablos a while ago they were a bit skittery when cold. These are great. Agree on the high for sports tires mileage too. They seem to let me know exactly whats hapening, happy to roll on while tipped over with these puppies. Coming up for my third set - not intending to change to anything else.

Zed

27th February 2006, 19:26

Cajun

27th February 2006, 20:17

yeah zed after 15,000 my front was starting to feel all funny.

still seamed to have plenty of tread on it tho

Toast

27th February 2006, 21:14

I'm getting a set of P/Powers fitted 2morrow, stock finally arrived. Staying with a 180 rear instead of the stock 190, and i can't see myself getting anywhere near 15k out of the front! $500 all up. :spudbn:

I'm gonna be changing the Diablos that came with my current bike (929) to my old fave Pilot Powers very soon, probably in the next couple of weeks. The current rear is a 190, so I think I'll stick with that for the first time, just so that I'm not changing more than one variable at once. Really would prefer the 180 straight up, but for the purpose of learning...

Zed

27th February 2006, 21:34

...my current bike (929) to my old fave Pilot Powers very soon...929, cool bike, gotta pic? Have you ridden a 954 yet?

Really would prefer the 180 straight up, but for the purpose of learning...Purpose of learning to get around that corner *slower*? :bleh:

Toast

27th February 2006, 22:00

929, cool bike, gotta pic? Have you ridden a 954 yet?

Here's the ones from the auction. It looks kinda black in these, but is actually a kinda purple/blue colour. I'm not in love with the looks and think it looks a little bit gay in those colours (though it seems to get a lot of looks from people, and little kids always point at me when I'm on it, which I assume is 'cos the like the bike...I hope). Doesn't worry me though, as I spend most of my time in the seat so I can't see what it looks like.

That 954 of yours is in a good scheme. I'd rather one of them, they sound angrier and rev a fair bit quicker. At $8500 with 16kms on the clock though, this was too good a bike to pass up on.

I've only had it for a couple of weeks, and it's my first time on a bike in 3 months, but I already feel extremely comfortable on it, despite it being shod with tyres that I'm not really in love with. Damn good road bike.

Toast

27th February 2006, 22:02

Zed

27th February 2006, 22:08

Here's the ones from the auction. It looks kinda black in these, but is actually a kinda purple/blue colour. I'm not in love with the looks and think it looks a little bit gay in those colours...

That 954 of yours is in a good scheme. I'd rather one of them, they sound angrier and rev a fair bit quicker. At $8500 with 16kms on the clock though, this was too good a bike to pass up on.

I've only had it for a couple of weeks, and it's my first time on a bike in 3 months, but I already feel extremely comfortable on it, despite it being shod with tyres that I'm not really in love with. Damn good road bike.You got an excellent deal there, looks like a minter and I quite like that colour scheme, the purple isn't that feminine! :laugh:

If you havn't already, check out this (http://www.fireblades.org/) great website, join up and start reading (i'm Zed on there too), has helped me out heaps with tech info in the mere 8 weeks i've owned the 954, plus it's great to see how many other owners of 929/954's feel the same way as we do about them!! :Punk:

Zed

27th February 2006, 22:13

Oh, and the choice of 190 tyre is to learn just how much slower it is on the 190 when turning in, and whether there's any other positives or negatives. As it's my first litre-ish bike, I just wanna experiment.The 190 certainly looks the bizzo, and the reduction to a 180 hasn't really been that noticeable, all depends on how hard/fast you ride it. I'd put a 190 back on if they had them in stock where i'm getting them from 2morrow, but alas, no big deal.

Toast

27th February 2006, 22:26

You got an excellent deal there, looks like a minter and I quite like that colour scheme, the purple isn't that feminine! :laugh:

If you havn't already, check out this (http://www.fireblades.org/) great website, join up and start reading (i'm Zed on there too), has helped me out heaps with tech info in the mere 8 weeks i've owned the 954, plus it's great to see how many other owners of 929/954's feel the same way as we do about them!! :Punk:

Sweet, cheers Zed, book marked that one, should be real useful :niceone:

The bike's not an absolute minter, got the odd scratch on the exhaust (not from a crash), and a small crack in the fairing near the screen, but effectively, nothing that worries me. I would replace the exhaust, but am quite liking the current sound when you give it some beans actually...and 'stealthy' is in this year :Police:

Zed

27th February 2006, 22:33

The bike's not an absolute minter, got the odd scratch on the exhaust (not from a crash), and a small crack in the fairing near the screen, but effectively, nothing that worries me.Nah, scratches add character mate! :wari:

Ockie

28th February 2006, 04:39

Hi Guys

Well, i only joined the site today
I stay in Namibia/Africa, and i own a GSXR1000K6.
Factory fitted with michelin pilot power! Great tyre, but unfortunately it only lasted about 2500km, and that is from the heat. We've been driving to a town a couple of weeks ago, and it was about 40 degrees. so the michelins had a little bit of a bubble gum effect. i bought the second set now.
Ok, great site

jonbuoy

28th February 2006, 07:52

Yeah I wonder what the guys up in the NT of OZ use? Must be frikken hot.

Toast

28th February 2006, 16:37

Zed

28th February 2006, 17:02

New set of Powers fitted today, Cycletreads came to the party once again with good pricing and service!! :2thumbsup

steved

2nd March 2006, 15:32

I've had 2000 kms out of my Pilot Powers on the ZXR400 and have been very impressed. After a near low-side taking I think too much of a not fully scrubbed in front, I have had so little squirming my confidence has increased markedly. Performance in the wet I haven't really assessed due to the marvelous month of weather we have had. They certainly loved the track and apparently could handle braking at the 100m mark into the hair-pin at Puke (thanks Jill). I wasn't prepared to test that theory.

I initially thought the tyres would be too much for my abilities (and they probably are) but I was convinced into them by the claims of durability. Here's hoping they last upwards of 7000km *fingers crossed* although at my WOF on Tuesday, the front had only 3mm depth. Ouch.

I'm thinking Pilot Sport or even Pilot Roads for my next set. Any opinions on these tyres?

Cajun

2nd March 2006, 15:43

i ran pilot roads on my old gsxr1100 good tire, wore well.

DMNTD

29th March 2006, 10:02

I've just done 4300kms on my 180 PP which is the first one I've riden before
Impressions...superb!! :2thumbsup ...and yes there's more than one layer of canvas :slap:
Under advisement I tried the 180 and hell it sure did cut a sharper line but I did find myself riding off the edges too often which caused some interesting slides/drifts :lol: :wari: . Wicked power sliding out of corners!!!
Yesterday I had the local bike shop put a 190 PP on so I can gauge the differences between a 180 and 190 with the same brand tyre...$320 fitted and balanced :cool:
I can't see myself going to another brand at this stage :2thumbsup

Cajun

29th March 2006, 10:53

Great work TL Rider.

Father in law got 5,000kms out them on his busa riding around the SI, getting close to being dead, once i do the drag day i think they will be.

They will be refited to the busa, and to wifes 1k also sometime in the near future