bandit 1200 shock same as '96 gsxr1000?

[zooter]

My gsx1100g is a bit groggy in the arse. The photo is shock off an American '96 gsxr1000, which I know will fit. It needs to be the remote reservoir type which was discontinued around '96. Is the bandit one like this? Anybody upgrading a low k's one for an ohlins?

[WINJA]

My gsx1100g is a bit groggy in the arse. The photo is shock off an American '96 gsxr1000, which I know will fit. It needs to be the remote reservoir type which was discontinued around '96. Is the bandit one like this? Anybody upgrading a low k's one for an ohlins?
GSXR1100?????
THE OHLINS WEBSITE HAS GREAT INFO ABOUT SHOCKS , STROKE ,LENGTH ETC

[Brian d marge]

My gsx1100g is a bit groggy in the arse. The photo is shock off an American '96 gsxr1000, which I know will fit. It needs to be the remote reservoir type which was discontinued around '96. Is the bandit one like this? Anybody upgrading a low k's one for an ohlins?

If you are not to much in a hurry I am sending a box of bits back to NZ from Japan and can see if there is one this end ??

Stephen

[onearmedbandit]

1996 GSXR1000? I don't think so, Suzuki never made one. Maybe a 1996 GSXR1100.

[zooter]

That ohlins site is a big help thanks Winja. I'm after a gsf 1200 bandit pre 2001 when they went to piggyback reservoir.
It's apparently a popular upgrade for the bandit to go aftermarket shock so I should be able to get one locally but if they're throwing them in recycling bins in Japan I'm all ears Brian. No hurry.

[WINJA]

That ohlins site is a big help thanks Winja. I'm after a gsf 1200 bandit pre 2001 when they went to piggyback reservoir.
It's apparently a popular upgrade for the bandit to go aftermarket shock so I should be able to get one locally but if they're throwing them in recycling bins in Japan I'm all ears Brian. No hurry.
THE OTHER OPTION IS TO GET TGEBE TO REBUILD AND REVALVE THE ORIGINAL TO YOUR SPECS , HE DID MINE AND IT WAS PRETTY GOOD , IM A OVER 100KG AND HE RESHIMED MINE FOR MY WEIGHT , DID THE SEAL AND OIL ALL FOR $150

[Lou Girardin]

The '96 - '99 Bandit shock is shorter than the 1100 shock, so it'll increase fork angle and reduce ground clearance, not really a good thing. It's not a remote reservoir unit either, just a common or garden single tube shock with rebound adjustment.
The '00 - 05 shock is longer but still not a top quality item.

[zooter]

Hmmm rebuiding non rebuidable shock, I've heard of it being done but I've also heard of it not working out.
The stock 1100g shock is 302mm so the bandit one is a tad longer at 306 if Ohlins got it right. Equates to about 10mm increase in ride height. Plenty of rake on g's forks so turn in should improve a bit if anything.

[WINJA]

Hmmm rebuiding non rebuidable shock, I've heard of it being done but I've also heard of it not working out.
The stock 1100g shock is 302mm so the bandit one is a tad longer at 306 if Ohlins got it right. Equates to about 10mm increase in ride height. Plenty of rake on g's forks so turn in should improve a bit if anything.
TGEBE REBUILT AN UNREBUILDABLE SHOCK FOR ME , NEW SEAL ,NITRO, OIL AND DID THE VALVING BETTER THAN IT WAS STANDARD, HES DONE HUNDREDS OF THEM

[WINJA]

Hmmm rebuiding non rebuidable shock, I've heard of it being done but I've also heard of it not working out.
The stock 1100g shock is 302mm so the bandit one is a tad longer at 306 if Ohlins got it right. Equates to about 10mm increase in ride height. Plenty of rake on g's forks so turn in should improve a bit if anything.
TGEBE REBUILT AN UNREBUILDABLE SHOCK FOR ME , NEW SEAL ,NITRO, OIL AND DID THE VALVING BETTER THAN IT WAS STANDARD, HES DONE HUNDREDS OF THEM

[soundbeltfarm]

TGEBE REBUILT AN UNREBUILDABLE SHOCK FOR ME , NEW SEAL ,NITRO, OIL AND DID THE VALVING BETTER THAN IT WAS STANDARD, HES DONE HUNDREDS OF THEM

who is TGEBE?
would he be able to work wonders with my stock TL shock?

cheers man
im 105kg not sure if that changes anything.

[soundbeltfarm]

or prob better to get an ohlins fitted later this year when i have the funds.

[WINJA]

who is TGEBE?
would he be able to work wonders with my stock TL shock?

cheers man
im 105kg not sure if that changes anything.
MY PROBLEM TOO , IM ABOUT 15KG MORE THAN YOU AND JAP BIKES ARE BUILT AROUND 70KG RIDERS, I THOUGHT THE TL WAS A RADIAL DAMPER I DONT KNOW WHAT CAN BE DONE WITH THAT

[Brian d marge]

MY PROBLEM TOO , IM ABOUT 15KG MORE THAN YOU AND JAP BIKES ARE BUILT AROUND 70KG RIDERS, I THOUGHT THE TL WAS A RADIAL DAMPER I DONT KNOW WHAT CAN BE DONE WITH THAT

Spring controls the load . Shims control the SPEED of the shaft movement up to the point where the shim opening is not enough to pass the oil trying to get through and the whole thing goes solid on you !

If your 105kg ,,you need a spring that suits your weight . you cant avoid that ,,,,no matter where you run to

Stephen

[Pixie]

If your 105kg ,,you need a spring that suits your weight . you cant avoid that ,,,,no matter where you run to

Stephen
What about the fat farm?

[WINJA]

Spring controls the load . Shims control the SPEED of the shaft movement up to the point where the shim opening is not enough to pass the oil trying to get through and the whole thing goes solid on you !

If your 105kg ,,you need a spring that suits your weight . you cant avoid that ,,,,no matter where you run to

Stephen
YOU CANT TELL ME THAT IF BOTH ARE WRONG AND YOU FIX ONE THERE WONT BE AN IMPOVEMENT , YES THERE MEANT TO HARMONIZE BUT IN THE REAL WORLD THERES COMPROMISES

[Brian d marge]

YOU CANT TELL ME THAT IF BOTH ARE WRONG AND YOU FIX ONE THERE WONT BE AN IMPOVEMENT , YES THERE MEANT TO HARMONIZE BUT IN THE REAL WORLD THERES COMPROMISES

No for example if you have the incorrect spring rate its possible to jack up the preload to get the correct sag settings
But what happens then is the shaft will rebound with more force ( worst case it will almost leap of the bumps

Revalving will change the forces which the shims will open or close adding shims makes the stack stiffer removing them softer ( this is the quick version)

So yes you could run a softer spring , jack the preload up then run stiffer rebound shim stack ,,,all this will do is make the oil work like a basket and feel a bit harsh is certain parts of the stroke depnding on what shims have been changed

What was happening to me was as I hit the whoops the soft spring didnt handle the load , so the shim stack when solid in me and it felt like fell flat on me face withmy arms stretched out in front of me ..ie the spring couldnt handle the load the shims were at max deflection and the oil hydrauliced ( went solid on me )

I pick up a new set of springs today !!

Stephen

mind you on the road you will never meet 4 foot pot holes!!

[zooter]

So I took my Mother (100kg?) for a fang through the Kawarau Gorge. Blow me down if it didn't sit a hell of a lot better. Wassup?