What does everyone think of Buells? [Archive]

Pablo Uganda

30th January 2006, 08:28

thehollowmen

30th January 2006, 08:34

I love them
only ridden a couple but they're a very "Fun" bike.

Probably not very economical in fuel and parts but.. by god they're fun.

skelstar

30th January 2006, 08:43

Theres heaps of reviews on the net. The 1200cc bikes are around 110HP I think (without checking) but its seems to be more about the torque anyway. The firebolt is considered to be the best handling bike by a couple of UK bike mags.

I understand there are a couple of very devoted fans in CHCH: Raskika and Dangerous :niceone:

edit - some of the parts like headlight units, screens etc are extremely cheap (like a third of the cost of japper parts). Would expect that the other parts would be similar in cost.

Sniper

30th January 2006, 08:49

Good bikes. Motor built by Harley, not sure if they own Buell though.

WINJA

30th January 2006, 09:00

as long as its not a honda id have it .
buells are like a fat girlfriend , lotsa of fun till your friends see you together

Jackrat

30th January 2006, 09:11

Yes HD does own Buell.
I know a couple of people that own them but never ridden one myself.
I have tried to get away from a couple in the twistys an didn't stand a chance.I went on a ride with half a dozen other riders a few weeks ago and one of them had an XB12.The road we were on is one that I've ridden on a very regular basis over the last twenty years so I gave it heaps.All but the buell slowly lost ground but that thing stuck to me like glue.
I was really impressed,even more so because this guy had never been on this road before an doesn't claim to be a real hot rider.
I've owned a 96 1200 Sportster and the buell would eat it for breakfast.
Last year I had the XS out on highway 22,another road I know very well.
I was going as hard as I dared and a rider on an older buell rode around the outside of me in a corner I was dragging my side stand on.That was a VERY humbling experience.

I love em':love: :love: :love:

PS,most HD parts are fairly cheap,it's not until you say the dreaded words "after market" that things get silly.

Motu

30th January 2006, 09:44

I like them - designed on a clean sheet of paper,I like bikes that break the mold.

One cleaned me up on an easy corner,then proceeded to show off with some fancy racing lines into corners,dragging his knee etc....I let him go.But when we got to the real twisties that I knew well he had an XLV750 on dirt tyres right up his date....really,I think most of these guys are too scared to push it in case they come off and scratch their $$$$$$ pride and joy.

HenryDorsetCase

30th January 2006, 09:55

I test rode an XB12S a couple of weeeks ago. I really really liked it.

it goes any amount quick enough for me. I like the styling (some dont). Belt drive has to be better than chain (particularly the '05 models because the belts are better).

they are tunable. if you want more horsepower.

value for money wise I reckon they are up there with anything else thats $20k new. I LOVED the turn the throttle and go aspect of the power delivery. I nailed it out of a second gear corner and withing a VERY Short space of time was doing 170kph in 4th.

I also like the brakes and detailing.

Why didnt I buy one? 2 issues: pillion comfort and I cant justify $20k of "our" money on a toy for me.

currently looking at/for either a second hand one (but I am aware there were QC issues particularly with the tube frame ones) or a Ducati monster or ST2

In another post somewhere I listed my shortlist... maybe yours is similar?

Oh yeah, Erik Buell worked at HD, left to set up his own business with engines supplied by HD, then when he did well and ran out of money HD bought 49% of the company (1999? 2000?) then they bought the rest of it after a couple more years. its not like they cant afford it: they sell 300000+ bikes a year.

ka ching!!!!

Pablo Uganda

30th January 2006, 10:41

In another post somewhere I listed my shortlist... maybe yours is similar?

My list is..

Buell XB12S
Ducati ST3
Ducati Monster S4R
Triumph Sprint
Aprilia Tuono
Umm...Dynaglide (wife's idea, aint gonna happen)

HenryDorsetCase

30th January 2006, 12:15

mine is similar except has HD XL1200R on it. the Ducati Monster in the current line up I like is the S2R (sure the 4R is faster but it aint as pretty... bloody radiator and hoses for africa).

The naked Aprilia was on special last week at woods $20k brand spankers.

I also like BMW R850 (and oooold R80GS)

dangerous

30th January 2006, 16:12

Are they are a popular bike?
Do they go well, like at least better than a sportster?
Is the motor hotted up a bit and whats the output of it, say the 1200.

Which model do you want to know about... all differ a bit like carbs/inj/1200HD motor Buell stroked motor, all different some with probs some with out???

Or maybe you want to know more about the new 1339cc Thunderstorm @
150+ peak engine horsepower at 8000 rpm
100 ft. lbs. peak engine torque at 6500 rpm

busadayz

30th January 2006, 20:12

Shit, what a list to choose from.
Got a few nice bikes to choose from there.
You will have to test each and every one though.
A mate i ride with has a 900'S, what a magic machine.
He has shown a couple of guys up on Taupo track not to mention on the road.
They are great machines, rode one a week ago and loved it, so much character. Not passenger freindly tho. Good luck in your search.

Rashika

31st January 2006, 05:16

I love them
only ridden a couple but they're a very "Fun" bike.

Probably not very economical in fuel and parts but.. by god they're fun.
def a 'FUN' bike!! :rockon:
and so far the parts do appear to be quite a bit cheaper than other makes I've found, not that I've had to get much. As for ecomnomy, very surprising that. On most fillups I've actually used less juice than a lot of the other riders. Bit weird that considering its usually the biggest CC bike in the bunch.

Theres heaps of reviews on the net. The 1200cc bikes are around 110HP I think (without checking) but its seems to be more about the torque anyway. The firebolt is considered to be the best handling bike by a couple of UK bike mags.
Close...100HP standard, the racekit adds 10HP.

I understand there are a couple of very devoted fans in CHCH: Raskika and Dangerous :niceone:

Oh yeah baby yeah! Altho there seem to be a growing number of admirers these days, especially those who 'just wanna take it for a spin' :2thumbsup
I had a request from a guy who races a Lightning at BEARS who wants to take the 'Bolt out for a spin to see its handling difference to his old pig (as he calls it, I wouldn't I think it looks HOT!) ...he thinks it would be damn fun.

buellbabe

31st January 2006, 06:43

Dunno about the Firebolt and XB range but the X1 Lightening puts out 101HP stock standard, add Vance&Hines muffler and a K&N filter and mine has been dyno'd at 110. It ROCKS. Parts are relatively cheap but if you are the type of person who does their own maintenence there are a few tricks to learn and you will no doubt end up "making some specialised tools..."
I have never had any reliability issues with mine and last wkend it rolled over 78,000kms.
If you are the type of rider that wants to go for their top speed all the time then get a Jappa, the X1 is maybe capable of 240, possibly 260 given the right conditions. The clock goes up to 220 and I have had it off the clock which was plenty fast! Buells are geared for fun and enjoyment, thet love corners and with their short wheel-base you can really chuck em around!
Ok I could go on for a L-O-N-G time on this subject so I better stop now before I get REALLY carried away.
Just before I go just have to say, the XB range is getting rave reviews and is definately worth checking out but before they came along the X1 Lightnening was the top-of-the-range! If you want a ride that you can really feel (and hear!) then try an X1... :chase: :rockon: :ride:

Pablo Uganda

31st January 2006, 07:48

buellbabe

31st January 2006, 07:57

I am 5'3". My seat has been modified to make it easier for me to touch the ground and you can also adjust the shock somewhat without compromising the ride. For ease of parking it I will sometimes just get off the bike and push it to where I wanna park it cos its hard doing that sitting on it when I am on tipp-toes!

Rashika

31st January 2006, 07:59

I like the high bars of the XB12. Due to some injuries, I cant ride a bike with low bars, hence looking for a Monster/Buell etc.

I looked at a Buell some years back, and from memory they had a high seat height, and me being only 5 ft 7, and with a dodgy hip found it real hard to swing the leg over and be confident on tippy toes.
That was about 6 yrs ago I think.
Are the ride/seat heights adjustable on them.
is that the S (lightning) or R (firebolt) XB12 you are talking about?
The Firebolt (XB12R) is from memory 1cm or it may be 1 inch taller than the XB12S, otherwise very similar except it has a longer pillion seat.
I stand at 5.8 and have no real problems manouvering, standing with 'almost' flat feet
Buellbabe is somewhat shorter than me :hug: and pretty much manages fine, altho I think the heels help at times eh girl?! :Punk:

Pablo Uganda

31st January 2006, 08:23

Its the XB12S Lightning I'm refering to.

That is good news about the ride height and adjustment.
Cheers.

Blackbuell

31st January 2006, 10:01

You can't go wrong with either the Lightning or the Firebolt,they are both great bikes,i had a bit of a race with a younger fella on this site,through some windies up north that he knows very well,he was on a very good jap sport bike,he couldn't get away from me.they are a fun bike,with heaps of grunt,it has been published somewhere in a mag that these model are the best cornering bike on the market !!!!!! go for it,
parts are not that expensive.

riffer

31st January 2006, 12:17

I've only ridden one, the XB9S with racekit.

I found it to be a very enjoyable ride. It felt to me like the perfect split between a sports bike and a trail bike.

The wheelbase is incredibly short, you sit up very vertically with your arms almost at a 90° angle (well I did, and I'm 5 foot 10.)

The "flywheel effect" took a little getting used to, and I wondered a couple of times when shifting up and feeling the bike lurch into the next gear if it would be the sort of thing that could catch you out in a corner, so I tried not to shift when leaned over.

The brakes are pretty strong - at least as good as the dual pot Nissin's on my RF900.

The bike feels light, and turns fast. It doesn't seem to mind you throwing it into a corner hard, and while the steering is very light and fast, it doesn't feel like it needs a damper.

My only complaints would be it feels too small for my liking (but I am a nearly middle aged 20kg overweight bogan who grew up at a time when sports bikes were Z900s, GSX1100s, CB900 Bol'dors etc) and that it appears to rev up so quickly that its a real disappointment when it runs out of revs and you have to change. Oh - and the gearbox is pretty agricultural compared to a Suzuki.

If I won Big Wednesday, would I buy one? Yes. As well as a few others.

Pablo Uganda

31st January 2006, 12:19

Are they any good for carrying a pillion?

I dont mean on long trips, just say afternoon rides etc.

I kinda have to think of the missus.....alas.<_<

Blackbuell

31st January 2006, 13:28

I take my girlfriend all the time,she loves it(on the bike i,mean)on a long ride of 4-5 hours she is starting to squawk about a sore backside,but for short trips no worries,it handles no probs with a pillion.

Lou Girardin

31st January 2006, 13:53

Are they any good for carrying a pillion?

I dont mean on long trips, just say afternoon rides etc.

I kinda have to think of the missus.....alas.<_<

XB12SS is marginally better due to the slighter longer wheelbase. Still not great though.

buellbabe

31st January 2006, 13:59

Once again I gotta plug the X1. I have actually pillioned on my own bike and had no issues for a day ride. And 1 up it is just supremely comfortable...:ride:

Pablo Uganda

31st January 2006, 14:06

That sounds good for a pillion for all we'd use it.

When I buy another bike, and I will admit I was leaning towards a Ducati St3 I dont plan on going for long trips, just rides and the occasional hoon around the place, and ride to work now and again.
I dont like the high screen on the Duc, thats putting me off.

How much are a set of pipes, muffler etc for the Buells, no probs to fit etc?

Blackbuell

31st January 2006, 14:14

You can buy just the standard bike ,but most Buells come with the option of a race kit,basically a different chip for the computer,and a different exhaust pipe that sounds very nice,take a look on Trade Me there are a few Buells on there with race kits fitted.

Pablo Uganda

31st January 2006, 14:24

Cheers everyone, told me everything I need to know.

How much is the race kit sold as an option?

buellbabe

31st January 2006, 14:28

Blackbuell

31st January 2006, 14:29

About $1500.00 - $1600.00 at a guess.

Bonez

31st January 2006, 14:31

That sounds good for a pillion for all we'd use it.

When I buy another bike, and I will admit I was leaning towards a Ducati St3 I dont plan on going for long trips, just rides and the occasional hoon around the place, and ride to work now and again.You' say that now. I bet a chocy fish you will end up going on long trips.......................:yeah:

Rashika

31st January 2006, 14:37

I think you'll find it cheaper to buy individual parts rather than purchasing the kit... thats what I did.
Rashika/Shot1gun might know how much they are for an XB.
For an X1 it was around $2500 for the factory kit.
Luckily it was all done for me when i bought the bike (it was just barely 2ndhand, but with a few extras done), but i think Shot1gun has got the price about right.

Pablo Uganda

31st January 2006, 16:01

You' say that now. I bet a chocy fish you will end up going on long trips.......................:yeah:

I think the arthritis in my hip and leg from an injury might prevent that.

But...............:2thumbsup

dangerous

31st January 2006, 17:19

Its the XB12S Lightning I'm refering to.
The XB12 and XB9's are a compleatly different motor to the early Buells, the earlier bikes were stresed to the max with the factory kit on them at 110hp, drag bikes pushing more than that out of a 1200 motor were subject to blowen cranks.

The newer engines are rather relaxed pumping 110hp (with race kit ex Buell) the 12 is the same motor as the 9 but it has been stroked to increase the cc's that would be my pic.

Now there are several models of the 'S' Lightening they look similer but dimensions ulta so look into that, and IIRC the race kits are closer to $2-3000

Kickaha

31st January 2006, 18:22

We already know Dangerous opinion on Buells, despite what he may say now to keep the missus happy:shake:

26th November 2004
FWIW..... I like em but they fall to pieces quicker than a Guzzi.... much quicker.

Na, HD/Buell dident get the motor around the right way :shifty:

10th March 2004
As for the Buel..........They are crappy as

:lol: :finger:

Rashika

31st January 2006, 18:24

We already know Dangerous opinion on Buells, despite what he may say now to keep the missus happy:shake:

the things we DO huh?? :not: <_<
(mimicing stoopid old cereal advert)

k1w160

2nd February 2006, 15:00

I tested both Buells last year when looking for a new bike, and I have to admit that it's the first time I found myself laughing out loud during a test ride - it was that much fun, but in the end my scottish heritage came to the fore - I just couldnt see that the Buell was $5K better that a Suzi SV1000. I ended up with the SV1000S, but - take the time to test ride the naked SV1000, great motor, handling, etc and plenty of personality, and having a touch of ducks disease my self, I still found it easy to get my feet on the ground. After 10,000k's I havent regretted my decision. Must go - decked the FZR at Puke last week and a rebuild awaits!!!!!!!!!

ducatilover

2nd February 2006, 15:06

i think they look the fucken shizz, although im not a fan of that big engine, wrong angle and not my favourite sound.

ive heard alot of good about them and almost no bad

buellbabe

3rd February 2006, 05:46

high praise indeed coming from a Ducati Lover:yeah:

ducatilover

3rd February 2006, 10:20

well they are a vtwin and i'm testing one when its legal for me to, i want to see if it'll tickle my fancy as much as a 749/748:Punk:

dangerous

3rd February 2006, 15:51

i think they look the fucken shizz, although im not a fan of that big engine, wrong angle and not my favourite sound.

ive heard alot of good about them and almost no bad
LMFAO..... but you own a bike that is almost a 90* V2 and sounds like a V2... funnyly nuff, do you know what ya on about:oi-grr:

Shadows

4th February 2006, 23:04

I took an older model out for a test ride last week, an M2 Cyclone.
I loved it, heaps of torque, horses, and heaps of character. Heaps of vibration too until you get into the right rev range, that was okay but the downside was it was near impossible to ride in traffic (well until you get used to it I suppose). Stacks more grunt than the XL1200S, although based loosely on that engine (I think some of the Harley guys are starting to put Buell heads on their bikes).
It handled like a dream, and the stopping power? Silly me, pulling a stoppie on a test ride lol!
The bike was light, compared to a sporty.
Seat height is right up there, like you're sitting on top of the thing. I'm 6' and it did feel a little high at first but I soon got used to it.
Although it put a huge grin on my face I didn't go for it because it felt like it needed to be ridden hard and fast all of the time. The missus would get jealous of that. And I'd either kill myself or lose my license. Maybe I've just got no willpower.

Anyway, I reckon just take one for a ride and judge for yourself. A lot of people say "they are just sportsters that stop and go around corners" but IMHO you might as well try to compare a door handle with a suitcase for all the good it will do you.

buellbabe

7th February 2006, 05:38

Cyclones are cool but they definately do vibrate abit... if ya liked that you'd love an X1. Thay are da bomb.

Pablo Uganda

7th February 2006, 08:47

Is it possible to make the bars higher on the XB12R with risers or anything similar?

buellbabe

7th February 2006, 08:51

Yeah dude, BadBlackBuell has changed his bars, send him a pm and he'll fill ya in...

Pablo Uganda

7th February 2006, 10:27

Cheers for that BB

Rashika

7th February 2006, 16:18

mine has clipons, so they are a bit higher than normal. The only problem with that is that is makes the turning circle EVEN less...can be a little nerveracking when doing slow tight turning and running outa turn :yes:
But they are very adjustable.

HenryDorsetCase

7th February 2006, 16:31

I've been out test riding again.

I really love the Buell. the two issues (money and pillion seat) I think preclude it for me, particularly given the home improvement that now is bumped up the list.

TRiumph Bonneville brand new $13k with a two year warranty. Its black with a black motor. dang,.

ducatilover

8th February 2006, 19:55

LMFAO..... but you own a bike that is almost a 90* V2 and sounds like a V2... funnyly nuff, do you know what ya on about:oi-grr:
umm my bike has a 52* v2. have another try.:rofl:

dangerous

9th February 2006, 05:07

im not a fan of that big engine, wrong angle and not my favourite sound.

umm my bike has a 52* v2. have another try.:rofl:
Ya twerp..... that makes it closer to a Buell/Harley than a 90* then dosent it.... so fuk all diff:tugger: take a look at the pics

ducatilover

9th February 2006, 08:51

i must of read wrong. ohwell your problem. there is a "perfect angle" for a v but im not sure if its 52.5* or 90* as i have been told two different stories:2thumbsup

Big Dave

9th February 2006, 11:32

The French Voxans have a 75º (alt-zero for the degrees sign) vee from memory. They are pretty nice too.

I took AMPS XB12X out to run it in for them prior to open day - and went back and ordered it.

It's the perfect motorcycle for me - as long as I have a show bike too.

ducatilover

9th February 2006, 11:40

they are very skinny arent they? and isnt the swingarm where the oil is? and the frame part of the petrol tank? all they want is a watercooled 52 degree twin haha. im wanting to take one for a ride, im sure they have heaps of grunt no matter what the stats show:scooter: :wari:

dangerous

9th February 2006, 17:37

i must of read wrong. ohwell your problem.
there is a "perfect angle" for a v but im not sure if its 52.5* or 90* as i have been told two different stories:2thumbsup
Man.... you have a fuk lot to learn junior, problem in deed :spudwhat: now go and play tiddle winks :ride:

ducatilover

9th February 2006, 19:48

tiddly winks is an inetrnational sport. so eat this word:

pnuemonoultramicrascopicsilicovolcanoconiosis.
and thats all i know:done:

your right though i have a lot to learn:spudwave:

Big Dave

9th February 2006, 19:57

Dangerous - maybe it's control 0 on your PC - the alt 0 works on my macs - try a combo of keys with the zero.

There is a keyboard/font map in windows somewhere too - will show you.

gav

9th February 2006, 22:51

But of course Ducati don't build a 90 degree vee twin do they? They build "L" twins.

dangerous

10th February 2006, 04:58

But of course Ducati don't build a 90 degree vee twin do they? They build "L" twins.
Ahhhhhhh..... yes, correct Gav, but is it the perfect 'L' ???
which is more perfect tho, L, V, F or P :ride:

ps: cant be any good as its not a 52.5* 'L' :confused:

ducatilover

10th February 2006, 09:22

ps: cant be any good as its not a 52.5* 'L' :confused:
then it wouldnt be an "L" would it?

i talked to someone last night and he says 90* is the ideal [or perfect] angle for a v-twin. but then alot of people like me would just take his word for it cos he rides an aprillia [and yes i know they use a 60* angle]

buellbabe

10th February 2006, 09:26

Well I wasn't gonna get involved in this debate but since I agree...
yeah baby yeah...90º hmmmm

ducatilover

10th February 2006, 09:34

Well I wasn't gonna get involved in this debate but since I agree...
yeah baby yeah...90º hmmmm
thats the attitude:love:

dangerous

10th February 2006, 16:51

Well I wasn't gonna get involved in this debate but since I agree...
yeah baby yeah...90º hmmmm
Hey chick......... yours aint a 90* Vee.... mine is tho hmmmmmmmm :drinknsin

ducatilover

10th February 2006, 19:37

dude! look at my title: DUCATILOVER! i naver said i dont like 90* engines, infact i love them, and is it just me or are alot of ducatis using 90* vtwins? i just dont like the general way a 45* vtwin sounds and delivers its power, 52 [or 52.5] on the other hand floats my boat very well.:wari: but i still want to ride a buell:second: :nya:

Crazy Steve

10th February 2006, 20:00

SHIT!!

Crazy Steve.

Troll

11th February 2006, 09:02

there is a "perfect angle" for a v but im not sure if its 52.5* or 90* as i have been told two different stories:2thumbsup

pefrfect angle is 42 degrees thats what Indian used

Big Dave

11th February 2006, 09:10

pefrfect angle is 42 degrees thats what Indian used

Yeah - and just look at how strong they are going today......

Troll

11th February 2006, 18:06

check out www.kiwiindian.com

going quite well as it stands

ducatilover

11th February 2006, 18:53

was in the honda shop in masterton today dribbling on theur xb9. i want the little screen thingy for my bros650 :Punk:

buellbabe

13th February 2006, 05:38

Hey chick......... yours aint a 90* Vee.... mine is tho hmmmmmmmm :drinknsin

Did I say it was? I just happen to think that angle is very asthetically pleasing...is that OK with YOU Mr D?
:nya:

dangerous

13th February 2006, 16:59

Did I say it was? I just happen to think that angle is very asthetically pleasing...is that OK with YOU Mr D?
:nya:
Don't get smart with me girl..... or I'll come on up there and smack a sloppy kiss on ya, and slap ya Buell riding behind :apumpin:

SpinFx

17th February 2007, 20:53

I've been riding 1200 sporties for about 5 years now and just bought me a 2002 X1 Lightning with 6000ks on the clock, it's got the vance and haines exhaust and the fuel injections been tuned and is putting out 110hp. I've only ridin it for 300ks now but am already in love. awesome reponse on the throttle, good for skinny light fellas like myself, alot lighter and easier to manouver than my old sporster. The only problem i've found is i may need to save for a few tickets as it picks up sppeed so quick and smoothly, you dont even know till you look at the speedo. Also in 5th at 110ks your only floating between 2-3thou revs. smooth and fast. love it.

SpinFx

17th February 2007, 21:00

just another note...........if all your riding is gonna be around town, dont bother cause you will just labour the poor thing on low revs, or end up attracting to much attention than you want.........best suited for open road with long straights and twisty corners.

nudemetalz

17th February 2007, 21:07

Not really my cup of tea, I like the Italian twin noises better, whether it be 60 or 90 degree twins.
However, I did look at Buells when looking for a big twin but the Guzzi's style just won me over :love: .

buellbabe

19th February 2007, 06:16

Jeez! this thread was started a year ago and I had just done 78,000kms... well I am now up to 96,000 and she had a top-end rebuild at 90 plus the shock has shit itself bigtime... not to worry cos I know a guy who can rebuild it for a fraction of the price of a new one...

Gotta say something here that is NOT in Buells favour... my bike is a '99 model and the shock is now obselete, along with the race kit and the factory 'breadbox-aircleaner' kit.
I have heard Firebolt and XB owners also grumbling about obsolete parts...
What do ya do? well there are after market parts available but generally speaking they are more expensive than the original.
For example: my original shock $1000, replacement 'works performance' $1500; original race tuned ECM $400 (approx), power commander $700; factory breadbox replacement $450, screaming eagle kit $600+
These figures are approximate but ya get the picture?

idleidolidyll

19th February 2007, 06:32

Are they are a popular bike?
Do they go well, like at least better than a sportster?
Is the motor hotted up a bit and whats the output of it, say the 1200.

I quite like the look of them, but never ridden one.
Buell is owned by HD now right?

awesome handling bike.
couldn't ride the R model very far without getting sore all over though.
prefer the S model
pity about that air cooled old tech motor though, imagine what Eric Buell could do with a real motor like an Aprilia, KTM V twin, Ducati, hell; even a Honda!

Rashika

19th February 2007, 06:44

awesome handling bike.
couldn't ride the R model very far without getting sore all over though.
prefer the S model

'tis funny that. Just completed the nth island trip, 3000 kms and I was pretty much the only one who WASN'T complaining about sore back, wrists, arse (tho Buellbabe did have real reason to complain :shutup: )
I find mine really comfy. Maybe its the clipon bars.

idleidolidyll

19th February 2007, 06:49

'tis funny that. Just completed the nth island trip, 3000 kms and I was pretty much the only one who WASN'T complaining about sore back, wrists, arse (tho Buellbabe did have real reason to complain :shutup: )
I find mine really comfy. Maybe its the clipon bars.

nah, it's the broken back mountainbiking and the fused vertebrae

buellbabe

19th February 2007, 09:37

My complaint didn't come from being sore or uncomfortable cos I just don't get that on the X1 but the rooted shock made even the smallest undulation in the road quite an issue!
That problem is gonna be sorted on Wednesday, happy happy joy joy!

MVnut

19th February 2007, 19:25

If the Tuono is still on your list, take one for a test before you buy a Buell

redhed

19th February 2007, 19:40

I like the Buells sooo much I own 4, all different models from '98 to '06, all ride differently & are all fun to ride.
Recently did 905k's in a day. ( not that I highly recommend it, but it was comfortable for a non cruiser.
They are motorcyclings biggest secret.
You don't need 180Hp to have fun.
So ridable for real every day riding.
Oh yeah you can scub to sides off the tyres before wearing the middle out. Is that fun or what.!!
Look out for the redhed Buells.