Idiots - what else can I say !!

[flyingscotsman]

It never ceases to amaze me how many idiots I see riding bikes in shorts & T shirts. :tugger: I know it's been seriously hot over the weekend but it's no excuse for not wearing something which offers a bit more protection. A plague of gravel rash on you all !!:2guns:

[JWALKER]

damn straight. i totally agree. that really gets me fired up, that topic

[skelstar]

I was in Murchison (I know) and it was 39degs in my leather jacket and jeans (kevlar) the other day. If you dont move much then youre fine. When youre moving on the bike you should be fine too...

[Jackrat]

Went for a ride around the south Waikato yesterday and each time I stopped for gas I saw people riding past dressed like that.
I take libertys with my own safty but that's going a bit far I reckon.
With pegs like mine,sun burn would be a major issue as well.:yeah:

[Finn]

You mean like this? I was playing with a new camera the other day and snapped this guy. Check out his footwear.

[Pablo Uganda]

Saw a guy on Friday roar past work here, which is on the main road, on a GSXR600 in shorts, tshirt and jandals. probably doing 90k in a 50k.
Traffic everywhere too.
Saw a guy about 5 mins later do a wheelie over a stop sign on a Buell.
he had all the gear on, so we'll let him off.:yeah:

[Big Dave]

They probably don't fall off.
Get over it and worry about yourselves.

[far queue]

Get over it and worry about yourselves.

I tend to agree with this. I see them, think "what a dickhead", and move on.

[Sniper]

Morons, but hey, it's their skin..

[miSTa]

Get over it and worry about yourselves.

A big +1 on that

[cowpoos]

fuck me....who gives a flying crap...there problem not yours... stop being such a PC poof....

[White trash]

Fucken good on 'em.

I'm off to ride to work in a bit and I think I'm gonna wear a T-shirt. Probably ride a fair percentage of the way on one wheel too.

Get fucked, it's my choice.

[SVrunner]

Very scarry.
I always am hot & sweaty & with i did not have to wear my gear, but don't know what is worst gravel rash or a beating from the wife. So i'm sticking to protective stuff no matter what the weather.
It's amazing how many bikes I saw when price of fuel goes up, more bikes on road, but most have no gear on.
Just hoe I don't have to pick them up.
Very scarry.

[inlinefour]

Its their choice, you made you the head nana mornon squad? Anal retentiveness over riding gear is fine, provided you keep it to yourself. Whats next, your going to impose what sort of bike they have to ride? I agree that its putting themselves at risk, but they have the choice to do so. If you really want to do something about it, lobby the government to make a law change. After all the law states that you only need to wear a helmet, shorts & t-shirt is acceptable. However if you succeed be prepared to be made an arse, just like those who got upset with the helmet laws. We live in a country that involves freedom of choice, great thing. :ride:

[Pablo Uganda]

Hahaha what touchy touchy people here.

In my post I just stated what I saw, I really dont give a fuck either way.

[crazyxr250rider]

well said inline4

[MrMelon]

I rode in a t-shirt and shorts up north and it was great.

[notme]

Its their choice......................We live in a country that involves freedom of choice, great thing. :ride:


Unfortunately it's not that simple......there are those among us whose job is to pick up the pieces when some dick spreads himself all over the road wearing only shorts, tshirt and sandals, then there's the negative effects on bike publicity in general, and the fact that the kid you ride past may think "oh, it's OK to ride without the gear" then off he goes....

Sure it's your choice, but you're not the only person being affected by "your choice".

[Big Chim]

You mean like this? I was playing with a new camera the other day and snapped this guy. Check out his footwear.


At least he cas gloves on hahaha

[Big Dave]

Sure it's your choice, but you're not the only person being affected by "your choice".


Nothing personal - but I don't care.


Edit - well, I do - I'm sorry you have to do that shit - but not enough to influnce my choice of what I reckon is appropriate equipment for where i will be riding.

Sometimes that can be draggin's, a tee, boots, fingerless gloves and an open face.
That's *my* minimum - for a relaxed ride. Not what I would recommend for a newbie.

Also worth noting that the range of flow through jackets etc available now there are plenty of options for armoured hot weather riding.

But sometimes thats not being a bit of a BIKER is about.

[Big Dave]

Hahaha what touchy touchy people here.

In my post I just stated what I saw, I really dont give a fuck either way.

Nah mate - nobody is touchy - thats just the tone of WT's conversation and static.

[2much]

10 fucken characters

[EZAS]

Unfortunately it's not that simple......there are those among us whose job is to pick up the pieces when some dick spreads himself all over the road wearing only shorts, tshirt and sandals, then there's the negative effects on bike publicity in general,

Sure it's your choice, but you're not the only person being affected by "your choice".

If you can't handle the job switch occupations. I respect Police and Abulance drivers for handling the messy consequences of idiotic behaviour, but I don't think they have any right to bitch about how hard there job is.

I'd rather have the scars on my legs reminding me of a few bike rides gone wrong, I think of them as the most personal tattoos you can get. (+ a constant reminder that I shouldn't ride without gear)

[Big Dave]

10 fucken characters

Niiiiiiiiiiiiice.

[Big Dave]

but I don't think they have any right to bitch about how hard there job is.

Only forefeited if it truly pays what it's worth.

For me to do either would need $300k.

[SpankMe]

Some heat is just too unbearable for proper gear. You’d pass out from heat exhaustion if you tried. But here it's individuals’ choice. I've been riding around in jeans and t-shirt lately if I'm just going to the shops.

[Badcat]

Fucken good on 'em.

I'm off to ride to work in a bit and I think I'm gonna wear a T-shirt. Probably ride a fair percentage of the way on one wheel too.

Get fucked, it's my choice.

why argue about this?
a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent is no fun really.

[imdying]

Heh, I wouldn't worry about telling others off for their choice of gear, evolution will sort them out :)

[onearmedbandit]

On that subject, had a guy from the states come over here for a couple weeks riding. Told me that his friends in Florida generally don't ride in the Summer as it is far too hot. Even in the evenings. They leave their riding for the winter!!!

[inlinefour]

Unfortunately it's not that simple......there are those among us whose job is to pick up the pieces when some dick spreads himself all over the road wearing only shorts, tshirt and sandals, then there's the negative effects on bike publicity in general, and the fact that the kid you ride past may think "oh, it's OK to ride without the gear" then off he goes....

Sure it's your choice, but you're not the only person being affected by "your choice".

I'm a registered nurse, so tell me something new please. You started a crusade against smokers etc whos'actions can potientially upset your day?:stupid:

[Sniper]

On that subject, had a guy from the states come over here for a couple weeks riding. Told me that his friends in Florida generally don't ride in the Summer as it is far too hot. Even in the evenings. They leave their riding for the winter!!!

Bloody hell, lucky bugger.

[yungatart]

At the Bayview Hotel yesterday, we watched this silly tart, hike up her skirt and climb on the back of some dudes Harley- not a helmet in sight! Her foot, clad so daintily in pretty pink jandals, slid off the pillion peg- loverly exhaust burn on her leg!! There are some people you just can't help! Yes, they did go up the road for a fang...

[cowboyz]

Its their choice, you made you the head nana mornon squad? Anal retentiveness over riding gear is fine, provided you keep it to yourself. Whats next, your going to impose what sort of bike they have to ride? I agree that its putting themselves at risk, but they have the choice to do so. If you really want to do something about it, lobby the government to make a law change. After all the law states that you only need to wear a helmet, shorts & t-shirt is acceptable. However if you succeed be prepared to be made an arse, just like those who got upset with the helmet laws. We live in a country that involves freedom of choice, great thing. :ride:

I agree completely. I couldn't imagine any rule being imposed on anyone in New Zealand telling them which bike they can ride. That just seems so unfair and who is others to be sticking their nose into other peoples business anyway, People should be allowed to do whatever they want.. (glances into memory when some strange guy in a blue uniform made me pay $400 just because he thought that I shouldn't be riding that bike) and people should be able to do whatever they want.

After all, we know it is not illegal to put you tongue in a light socket. You should try that sometime. You should also be able to break into your neighbours place and take his stuff because you know it is illegal for them to protect what is theirs. If they shoot at you they will get charged. If they beat the crap out of you then they will also be charged.


If you havent got my point yet, the discussion is not what is legal,, it is what is a good idea....

If everyone went around ignoring all the stupid people and keeping their opinions to themselves then how are stupid people going to get smarter?

[Oakie]

Saw a guy riding around yesterday wearing just shorts and a helmet. Not even a t shirt. Made me wonder what a bumblebee in the nipple feels like at 50km/h?

[inlinefour]

I agree completely. I couldn't imagine any rule being imposed on anyone in New Zealand telling them which bike they can ride. That just seems so unfair and who is others to be sticking their nose into other peoples business anyway, People should be allowed to do whatever they want.. (glances into memory when some strange guy in a blue uniform made me pay $400 just because he thought that I shouldn't be riding that bike) and people should be able to do whatever they want.

After all, we know it is not illegal to put you tongue in a light socket. You should try that sometime. You should also be able to break into your neighbours place and take his stuff because you know it is illegal for them to protect what is theirs. If they shoot at you they will get charged. If they beat the crap out of you then they will also be charged.


If you havent got my point yet, the discussion is not what is legal,, it is what is a good idea....

If everyone went around ignoring all the stupid people and keeping their opinions to themselves then how are stupid people going to get smarter?


Like i said, we all know whats a good idea and not. Comparing the choice to not wear gear vs breaking the law is pointless. The only person who is going to get hurt is the twat not wearing the gear. Getting emotional about the people not wearing the gear is the bit that gets me and so many people here at KB get on their high horses over it. IMO some people need to get over themselves and look at improving themselves, rather than pointing out everyone elses faults...:not:

[myvice]

If your not wearing the rest then why wear a helmet?
If you want to scream about with no protection then go for it, but get medical insurance so we don’t have to pay for your shortsightedness.
I've seen a few riders about with the gear but the kids on the back have nothing!
If you’re going to take your son/daughter somewhere then at least get them a bit of a chance!

[Maha]

This seems to be a contentious issue every time its mentioned. Alot of '' dummy spitting'' from those who think they can walk on water and alot of '' intelligent comments '' from those who know they cant. The only bit of apparel i will change in this weather is to jeans, everything else stays. Its easy enuff to to flick the lid,jacket,gloves when ya stop but taking off the pants at a pub only happens after 8 beers not when you arrive. I have seen so many bikers over the past few days thinking they're on a surf board ,not a bike :brick: i do care, but i dont :doctor:

[bladez]

i agree as when i pick up my son from school i make sure i take gear for him to wear ( jacket etc ) and bloody good boots :yes: and have seen people in scuffs as foot wear bloody idiots

[Zed]

It never ceases to amaze me how many idiots I see riding bikes in shorts & T shirts. :tugger: I know it's been seriously hot over the weekend but it's no excuse for not wearing something which offers a bit more protection.Just like you have a choice to start this thread and voice your opinion (which i agree with btw), so does any rider have a a choice to wear what he/she likes! I would ignore those who are opposing your choice on this occasion, because they are guilty of what they accuse you of lol! :wacko:

I sometimes see riders in shorts, tee, jandals, etc and my first thought is "wot an idyot", but then i remember that i too can be labelled an idjot at times when i neglect to wear FULL protection!! but innit great to have the choice...:headbang:

[Big Dave]

so we don’t have to pay for your shortsightedness.


Yeahg - My last pair of glasses were $600

[Gixxer 4 ever]

At the Bayview Hotel yesterday, we watched this silly tart, hike up her skirt and climb on the back of some dudes Harley- not a helmet in sight! Her foot, clad so daintily in pretty pink jandals, slid off the pillion peg- loverly exhaust burn on her leg!! There are some people you just can't help! Yes, they did go up the road for a fang...

Bugger.:crybaby: Hope MSTRS enjoyed the view for me. Bloody work. It really ate in to my day. Just spoke to Moo and she said all the bikes are out in Hammy town with it being Fuckland day and all. A few cops chasing them as well . I have a great urge to ride after that day out yesterday. Better wear the leathers or the PC police will get me.....:Pokey: ....:killingme :killingme

[cowboyz]

FULL protection....

??

So what is the minimum?? If your going from complaining about someone riding down the motorway in shorts, t shirt and jandals to someone riding round the middle of Tahuna in sandshoes, shorts and t shirt there is abit of difference isn't there?

My 2 cents... I think the *minimum* anyone should be wearing before they start the bike should be covered footwear, long pants and a jacket with some armour on it. (and a helmet of course). Sure, if you are wearing sweatpants and come off it isn't going to supply a whole heap of protection but at least it *looks* like you give a fuck.

[willy_01]

pufff riding in jandels is great the feeling of wind between your toes is fantastic.
NZ is a free country so its nice to wear what you want on a bike (bar the helmet) and i think the guppy that had a stress about me ridding in shorts and jandels should go home, if i was focused on worring about my safety i sure would not ride a motorbike.

Your personal choice people,
and for all the old fullas yes my arse has tasted gravel before, works well as a mental speed limiter

Hell i would recomemd having your first prang with non protective gears on, puts the fear of god in you.

[Edbear]

Just been out West to Sth Head and back, was rather hot and when I stopped I sweated like a pig! All the bikers I saw were wearing all the right gear, though. But while I agree it's everyone's choice to wear proper gear or not, I personally won't ride without it. I am keenly aware that falling off at virtually any speed is gonna hurt, so I want to try to minimise the hurt as much as possible. I feel for the poor guys and gals who have to literally pick up the pieces and he's got a point, whether you agree or not is up to you. It's like a lot of commonsense issues, really. For ex. most people who smoke say they don't care about the health risks, but just talk to a few who've just been told they have cancer and it's terminal. A friend died last year from cancer from smoking but only after they'd cut out most of his face and throat! Horrible way to go! So's sliding down tarseal in your skin! It's only when the consequences arrive in their horrible reality that some finally click that maybe their "free choice" wasn't such a:bye: crash-hot, (pardon the pun), idea after all. 'course it's too late then to change your mind...

[rasty]

fuck me....who gives a flying crap...there problem not yours... stop being such a PC poof....


Got to agree!

[TygerTung]

I think that if you don't wear gear you're an idiot.

I mean you say it's only the person getting hurt, but how about their friends, their family seeing them all injured or dead as they wern't wearing any gears.

I was biking to work on my pushbike once, wasn't wearing any leathers or anything just a pushie helmet, and I came off, got a big fucking graze on my arm took about a month to heal and was really sore, I'd hate to imagine what it would be like without any gear on at speed so I wear gear all the time, even if it is bloody hot.

I ALWAYS wear jacket, gloves, helmet and boots, but I occasionally have worn jeans before I got my cordura pants, but I feel naked without them.

So fuck 'em even if it is a hot day I'd rather be sweaty than without skin!

[Ixion]

If your're scared of being hurt, don't ride dangerous silly things like motorcycles. Stick to nice safe cars. Alternatively, don't fall off. I've found not falling off works surprisingly well.

I can hear the MPs now "Wellllll, we've been asked to pass laws to make motorcyclists wear all this protective clothing. But, really, if motorcycles are that dabgerous , should they be allowed at all? I think not"

No amount of magic gear will guarantee you won't be hurt or killed if you crash. Don't crash. Simple answer.

[NC]

It never ceases to amaze me how many post these threads up.

They made the choice. They have to deal with it.

[Hitcher]

They made the choice. They have to deal with it.
Oh, if only this were true.

They have nothing to deal with themselves, other than a bit of pain, mutilation and discomfort.

They have several taxpayer-funded options awaiting them:

Free ambulance and skilled paramedic care to A&E.
A&E cover provided by the appropriate District Health Board.
Plastic surgery and orthopedic care funded by ACC.
Physiotherapy and other rehabilitative services funded by ACC.
Paid time off work, courtesy of ACC (and their beloved employer).


Additionally, they help promote a view of bikers as Ferkin Idiots.

Oh fuck it. I'm wasting my time. Let them do what they bloody-well like. After all, it's their life (Insert Tui poster here)

[inlinefour]

You know, I was thinking. All this palooha over wearing gear or not, those who believe that there should be gear worn all the time, I have a question for you. Safety, if your so worried about the safety of others, then why just not just encourage everyone to give up riding altogether??? In fact, why not ban all sports/activities because they could be potientially dangerous?:killingme
It never amazes me how much others will harp on about others...:eyepoke:
This topic comes up on a regular basis and like someone else said, its their life, get over it. Would be a shyte world if all those who have an opinion could impose it on everyone else. Is it just me or is the heat frying some peoples' brains? Get on with life, we only have one and its a waste of it to worry about everyone else.
Oh and for the record, I've had my share of wipeouts. I do wear gear, draggins, jacket, boots, gloves & lid are my minimium and I have more than that on the sprotbike.:banana:

[Hitcher]

Anal retentiveness indeed! If these Ferkin Idiots bore the full consequences of their stupidity, I would agree with you fully.

They don't. The taxpayer does.

Therefore I disagree with you fully.

Yes, they have a right to choose to be dickheads in the same vein as people who don't wear seatbelts in cars, or those who allow unrestrained children to roam around inside moving vehicles. That doesn't make what they do "right", either for themselves or for others.

[Korea]

"It's my choice! My choice!! Mine! Mine! ~ If I want to be a dickhead, it's up to me"

...so what is there in being a dickhead that interests you so much???

[myvice]

"
No amount of magic gear will guarantee you won't be hurt or killed if you crash. Don't crash. Simple answer.
Not all accidents are avoidable by the victim tho, if your sitting at the lights and some git rear ends you, what where you sposed to do? No up button on my bike!
Why are helmets compulsory?
Maybe it should be voluntary like the rest of the gear?
Might end up with a higher road toll but unemployment would drop!
Its all good to say “Let those who ride decide” But it’s us who foot the bill when others cant be assed caus its too hot, not far enough, don’t want to…
Cars are dangerous too, and we have seatbelts, airbags and other safety aspects built in. On bikes we have to use our initiative, you would think that people would give themselves the best chance at survival, I guess the “She’ll be right mate” attitude hasn’t been killed off yet.

[MSTRS]

Easy fix.....
Wearing of gear other than helmet is optional.
In the event of injury-accident, the injured party is charged on a sliding scale dependent on the gear they are wearing (or not).
ie Helmet only (you know what I mean) - they pay 100% of treatment and ongoing etc
Full gear - taxpayer picks up the tab.
With pants, jacket & proper boots making up a reasonable safety gear collection, that means cost can be allocated in 1/3 amounts of total.
*Edit* Damn - how to factor in gloves???

[terbang]

Saw a funny thing the other day a bloke on a sportsbike wearing a nice dianise jacket (looked like the top half of a 2 piece), nice gloves, boots and...... shorts..!
Ever notice how you often see some riders, the ones that wear skimpy skull cap type open face helmets (or often Wafen SS helmets) and real big heavy, steel impregnated boots. Gets me thinking about what they are worried about protecting..Thier Heads or thier Feet?

Whats that guys name now...ummm..errr..., Darwin, thats right Charles Darwin.

[zeRax]

cant we make a rule about making these threads?

i know im not the only one thats sick of them, as said - their choice and mine is mine!

[notme]

cant we make a rule about making these threads?

i know im not the only one thats sick of them, as said - their choice and mine is mine!

Choices choices......like the one you made to open this thread? :Pokey: Then post? If you're sick of these threads, keep mr clicky finger away from mr mouse button :niceone:

[zeRax]

its a called a protest!

[notme]

You know, I was thinking. All this palooha over wearing gear or not, those who believe that there should be gear worn all the time, I have a question for you. Safety, if your so worried about the safety of others, then why just not just encourage everyone to give up riding altogether??? In fact, why not ban all sports/activities because they could be potientially dangerous?:killingme
It never amazes me how much others will harp on about others...:eyepoke: .............


People on both sides of this discussion seem to be doing that.....(see quote above!) :Pokey:

[rasty]

I wonder how many of the armour nazis go out and do wheelies or stoppies or hang off on corners or split lanes at 50kmh more than the traffic - stuff I see every week.

There are a heap of things done by motorcyclists that piss off the general public a helluva lot more than a guy wearing shorts for Christ's sake.

I know there is a chance you are going to can off any time you go out - but if you ride like a boy racer on two wheels - and that is what the public see when you blat past - then just wearing armour and leather isn't going to necessarily save.

I have had one serious bin, car u-turned and I missed him with everything but ny knee - armour, if it had existed then, might have stopped my leg being split up the middle, but it wouldn't have stopped the serious part which was separating at the knee and ending up on the seat behind.

Wearing gear doesn't make you bulletproof - it justs make you FEEL bulletproof and that is the real danger in my mind.

Ah, but what would I know, I'm just an old fart (who still loves bikes)

Wear what you like, but don't use ACC and public opinion to tell others what they should wear.

Rant over, ride safe:angry2: :angry2:

[notme]

On a related note, I am trying to get some samples of garments that are designed for cooling people working in hot conditions....they are suitable for wearing under bike gear and should be affordable.....just waiting for samples to try out then I'll post more! :wari:

[Hitcher]

Shift does a most excellent mesh jacket for under $200. It has all the armour in all the right places too (I "road" tested one on Boxing Day)...

[cowboyz]

I wonder how many of the armour nazis go out and do wheelies or stoppies or hang off on corners or split lanes at 50kmh more than the traffic - stuff I see every week.

There are a heap of things done by motorcyclists that piss off the general public a helluva lot more than a guy wearing shorts for Christ's sake.



What a great piece of logic you got there.


Can I go give my neighbour a punch in the head because after all, there are worse things that I could have done so "minor" things should be ignored.

At the end of the day, the profile of the biker has to improve. Increasingly we aer being targetted. Recently on the news with "some guy" doing 330k/hr. Bitching about bikes on the caining it on the twisties. Having idiots running round with no gear on is just something else to bitch at.

[SPman]

Followed a dude over the bridge this evening - He was on a harley but shit - it looked like a mini chopper - reckon he was about 25 stone!....anyway - all the bikey leather, chaps, jacket, gloves, black helmet and all.....and a pair of open toed sandals!!! Exposing his pinkies - or in this case - brownies.....on his highway pegs.
Looked cool...
Fair cracked me up .:rofl:

[inlinefour]

People on both sides of this discussion seem to be doing that.....(see quote above!) :Pokey:

Indeed they are and aint it great,another thought, maybe idiots should be not allowed to breed :killingme

[madboy]

Hitcher - I label thee a hypocrite. I've seen you ride in jeans. That's not full gear. When you ass off, I'm be one of the taxpayers who picks up the bill for your new legs cos you weren't wearing full armour.

Where do you draw the line at what is acceptable? Gloves? Pants? Boots? What about back protectors? Reals ones work a shit load better than those piddly ones that come standard equipment.

So if we're all being f***ing PC today, hands up all the sensible folk who always ALWAYS ride with FULL gear? I'd be surprised if anyone here can.

Shorts and T, done it myself. Don't make a habit of it, don't practice wheelies in it either, but yep I've probably broken a few speed limits, split a few cars and ridden a few kilometres in shorts and T. What's that saying about throwing stones?

[rasty]

Ask anyone in a cage what they think is stupid behaviour by a bike rider and I bet ihat what the guy is wearing or not wearing doesn't even get a mention.

[TygerTung]

Well I had an accident today, low sided the bike, luckely I was wearing full gear and escaped without any injury, I'll never ride without it again.

Just a couple of rips in the pants, but I'll sew a bit of leather over the whole.

[far queue]

Well I had an accident today, low sided the bike, luckely I was wearing full gear and escaped without any injury, I'll never ride without it again.

Just a couple of rips in the pants, but I'll sew a bit of leather over the whole.

Sorry to hear it, but good you're OK. How's the bike? How did it happen? At least it didn't happen on the way home from Woodstock yesterday.

[Hitcher]

Hitcher - I label thee a hypocrite. I've seen you ride in jeans. That's not full gear.
Them's called "Draggins". I've had the same pair down the road twice -- once underneath 250-odd kg of Kawasaki ZRX1200R -- with narry a mark or tear to show for it. A bit of hip armour could have been appreciated on both occasions though...

[TLDV8]

They probably don't fall off.
Get over it and worry about yourselves.

Sounds good to me :first: .. perhaps all the do gooders should put their money where their mouths are,when they see someone riding in gear they do not aprove of... turn around,follow the person until you get a chance to lecture them on their wrong doing according to you........ I see people dressed in all manner of attire,including jeans and ankle length boots,that is their perogotive. ?...... I guess it is a case of full armoured suit or nothing.

[Shadows]

You mean like this? I was playing with a new camera the other day and snapped this guy. Check out his footwear.

Nice helmet.

[grego]

Ok heres my 5 cent worth:
Seen last week in a Napier suburb, a geeser on an old triumph dressed "light" and in front of him he had a toddler sitting halve on the tank no helmet either.

Sunday: Another idiot: Motocrossbike, on his way to a grassy reserve, T-shirt,shorts,barefoot, No helmet,and yes, you guessed it, about a 2 year old girl in front of him dressed in a light skirt......................................
Question: Are we allowed to run them over ???????????

[Dadpole]

On a similar vein: people should only ride on bikes I approve of. :corn:

[mstriumph]

...... i don't believe people should be permitted to wear beige..... very depressing to look at, is beige......

...........oh - and parents that dress their children in synthetic-fibre underwear - don't the idiots REALISE how unhealthy
that can be next to the skin in a warm damp climate?

uh - and people who eat junkfood - is it pc here to despise people who eat junkfood? ....... or are we only permitted to despise people
who excercise their democratic right to wear wat the hell they choose on their bike??

[inlinefour]

...... i don't believe people should be permitted to wear beige..... very depressing to look at, is beige......

...........oh - and parents that dress their children in synthetic-fibre underwear - don't the idiots REALISE how unhealthy
that can be next to the skin in a warm damp climate?

uh - and people who eat junkfood - is it pc here to despise people who eat junkfood? ....... or are we only permitted to despise people
who excercise their democratic right to wear wat the hell they choose on their bike??

Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!! [breathes] Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [wipes the tears from my face]:2thumbsup

[MSTRS]

Intelligence says that the wearing of appropriate gear is not something to be sneezed at.......would any of you step up to the crease in a serious game of cricket without shinpads, gloves, helmet (& box for those with external plumbing) ?? Or not suit-up as hockey goalie?
The cost (in un-necessary pain) to the individual is their problem - fine, suffer if you want. But the cost to the rest of us is not only in treatment. It plays a part in the waiting lists for elective surgery, much of which becomes life-threatening when postponed, and at the very least causes serious loss of quality of life. If I was waiting for surgery to correct, say, a degenerative knee disorder, would I be happy to know that continual postponement of the surgery was in part down to fuckwits of the shorts/jandals type?
I THINK NOT!

[Lou Girardin]

Skin grows back.

[yungatart]

Skin does grow back- it is also the largest organ your body has, and if you lose/damage enough of it you can die as a result. Skin grafts need constant and long term medical attention- ever seen a burns victim in one of those elastic type suits-well, gravel rash has the same effect as burns. I don't want to go there, I'll be a nana and don my leathers thanks.

[suckingair]

I remember reading about the guys in the 1930's that would get on bikes in salt lakes and go for speed records, wearing only a helmet, swimming pants and a pair of shoes. Until one of them arsed off at 120 mph, could you imagine the pain that would cause.

[dawnrazor]

Not this again

"ladies and gentlemen, we are approaching the nanny state, for those of you departing at this point we would request you leave all personal responsibility and self respect behind you and give yourselves over completely to a higher authority. Those free spirits that are remaining on-board for the rest of the journey, please sit back relax and do exactly what you want to, anarchy junction won't be long arriving"

[inlinefour]

Bump.:slap:

[Lou Girardin]

Seems I forgot the appropriate smilie again.:msn-wink:

[cowpoos]

Hahaha what touchy touchy people here.

In my post I just stated what I saw, I really dont give a fuck either way.

no your telling lie's....coz you red repped me for my comment...and called me a fuckwit.... now thats pretty two faced....

if you hav a problem with what I type say so...don't hide behind the rep system or PM's.... grow some balls ...... or shut up.... simple

[23226]

Biking is meant to be about freedom.

I should be free to kill myself or place myself at risk by riding a bike naked or maybe skydiving, mountaineering, swimming in rips while drunk as a chicken. overeating or perhaps ( unlikely) overexercising.
They could all put me in the ICU on ACC.

Live your own life, yes we should gear up or perhaps learn to love roadrash or perhaps dying young or being wheelchair bound . or maybe none of these things if we can follow the gold standard, and play the "dont crash, cheat death and no hospital either" card.

Practise and experience may make not crashing more repeatable, but gear is just like everything else in the riding outcome equation;
how cold or hot are you , how tired are you , how focused , road conditions weather conditions traffic conditions etc.
They all combine for the outcome of a particular riding experience.

Essentially if everything else is working 'right' you shouldnt need the gear, and even when you do need it , it may or may not help.

It get into the high 30's here in summer and even then I am still wearing boots gloves armoured trou + jacket and a helmet.

But if i dont want to wear all of that crap that should be ok too.

I dont think it should necesarily be encouraged, as the risk isnt everyones cup of tea, but I am against losing any more freedom in nz therefore I fully endorse your right to be wearing only a kilt if you were select this attire as your riding gear of choice.

You dont get freedom back from the government.

[inlinefour]

no your telling lie's....coz you red repped me for my comment...and called me a fuckwit.... now thats pretty two faced....

if you hav a problem with what I type say so...don't hide behind the rep system or PM's.... grow some balls ...... or shut up.... simple

I got the same thing and I know of one other who also recieved it from this individual. Apparently Im a stupid c&nt and have no brain. Well on nightshift, there might be some truth in that, but not nice all the same. I PMed him just querying if he/she is having a bad day...

[cowboyz]

you gave me a bad rep for posting my opinion!!


Whatever....

[Bonez]

you gave me a bad rep for posting my opinion!!


Whatever....Who was that?

[Bonez]

I remember reading about the guys in the 1930's that would get on bikes in salt lakes and go for speed records, wearing only a helmet, swimming pants and a pair of shoes. Until one of them arsed off at 120 mph, could you imagine the pain that would cause.Did they live to tell the tale.

[Bonez]

They don't. The taxpayer does.

Therefore I disagree with you fully.

And they are not taxpayers? Quite within there rights by the looks.
Now try and not to crash your next bike will you.........(p/t)

[kro]

you red repped me for my comment...
if you hav a problem with what I type say so...don't hide behind the rep system or PM's.... grow some balls ...... or shut up.... simple

Beautifully said sir, these words are truth.

[Clockwork]

You dont get freedom back from the government.

That's SO true!