Police attitude

[snuffles]

What is it with Mr Plod, driving down boulcott st in town yesterday and pulled up out side the church.

they were obviously burying a cop , judging by the amount of blue at the church and the mounted bike cops outside.

anyway, pull up to stop at lights, when I am accosted by some grumpy old shit of a bike cop, who says" turn those spots off , there too bright and not aligned"( there meant to be bright so dumb shits can see me)

fair enough, I think, but the shit he could at least of said good afternoon, or hello sir.

Wanted to remind him , who pays his wages, but thought better of it, just had this picture of me buried under a mass of blue uniforms on the side of the street.

all it takes is a little politeness, starting to loose patience with the fuzz, gonna get ugly soon.

[Sniper]

Bugger mate. Proberbly not a good time to harress the cops. But remember, they are people too and on a bad day, maybe he doesn't want to be nice to you.

[froggyfrenchman]

yeah bloody cops, i had to drive 5km out of my way to get home from work coz they had a checkpoint set up on my chosen route. I mean honestly, just coz i had 5 beers at work and havnt regd and wofd my car for 2 years...
Its police brutality i tells ya!

Disclaimer- based on a true story, but intended as a piss take!

[Colapop]

Roll with the punches, it's sometimes easier than making sure you take 'em on the chin. I just been to a funeral today and sure as f*ck don't want anyone pissing me off right now. Count it as bad day blues and move on.

[pyrocam]

its times like these im glad I live in auckland

[Motu]

If they were spot lights they can only be on when the headlights are on high beam - high beam on a suburban street is ilegal.Maybe you mean they were fog lamps - you do realise it is now ilegal to drive with fog lamps on unless your vision is severly impared...like with fog? He was within his rights to give you a ticket I'd say...lucky you just got a warning.

[Lou Girardin]

It looks like we have two people at fault here. Two wrongs obviously make a right.

[Blackbuell]

Sir Pratt ,has a thread on you ,maybe you can reply to him???

[HDTboy]

Are you one of the moronic arseholes who ignorantly drive around with your foglights blazing, blinding every other road user because you're too dense to realise that it's not fucking foggy?

[Coyote]

I'm with the cop on this one. It was just rude of you turning up with your lights dazzling those poor coppers

[cowpoos]

there is an intruder in your house whose got a knife from your kitchen and chasing you around

like you lot would turn up....piffft!!

[Dafe]

well stick you out on the front outside the safe zone as you dont want to support the army that defends you...


You cant have your cake and eat it too buddy :huhuhu:

In all honesty, I'd not stand behind our Army's safezone, you'd be fried in two minutes flat by the enemy. The NZ Defence Force is a joke. Air Power no longer exists in NZ, we have but a glorified transpotation service. The Army are but lambs to the slaughter where there is no Air Support and our Navy, more a coastguard service than a Military force.
All the above designed to provide minimal expenditure while meeting bare minimal expectations of what could be considered an allie force by Australia. Much to the Australians dissaproval and dissapointment.

The Police force is another circus act of the NZ government. The way you carry on about attending to the publics needs, you're about 10 years behind, that shit stopped long ago. You're just a leech, sucking up money for Helen and her fiasco.

[James Deuce]

lol pay my wages.

You pay for an army to defend, a police force to protect, a fire service to put out fires, hospitals to fix people up etc etc.....

if you dont want them just tell the government to ignore all your 111 calls when your house is getting burning down, your having a heart attack or there is an intruder in your house whose got a knife from your kitchen and chasing you around..also...dont bother going to the hospital and if were ever invaded (however unlikely that is!!) well stick you out on the front outside the safe zone as you dont want to support the army that defends you...


You cant have your cake and eat it too buddy :huhuhu:

Hey!

There is another thread in here tonight where a bloke was told by Police and ambulance workers that it is OK for motorcyclists to be run over by incompetent drivers. Then we get this other bloke who can't even respect a mate's funeral enough to leave a mate of mine alone who has, as he has already said, taken visibility issues into his own hands, because you can;t trust incompetent drivers.

You guys mean well, BUT, and I have no doubt that you won't like this, and I have no doubt I'll get staffing crisis stuffed down my throat, but I have been burgaled three times, and one of those times it was in progress when I called and I was threatened by the intruder. I got no help. None.

You wonder why you have a problem profile with the public, but the NZ Police signally and repeatedly fail to keep citizens safe, allow a black market in stolen goods to become a significant black economy, and take cheap shots at inappropriate times against a NZ citizen who has the common sense to make himself more visible in a world where the Police have already decided that we're going to get run over, maimed, or killed, and that it is our "choice" for riding a motorcycle.

You want us to work WITH you then show a little respect for our lives.

[SuperDave]

if you dont want them just tell the government to ignore all your 111 calls

Thought they already do that?

[unhingedlizard]

You cant have your cake and eat it too buddy :huhuhu:


whats the point of having cake and not eating it?

[Virago]

I can only offer two pieces of advice:

1) Turn of your spotlights;

2) Grow up.

[Shadows]

I dunno I've been blinded by some pretty bright spotlights attached to bikes before. Maybe they really were too bright? Maybe you were screwing up their group photo shoot???

[pritch]

Thought they already do that?

That's not fair, they send a taxi. Somewhere...

[Ixion]

If they were spot lights they can only be on when the headlights are on high beam - high beam on a suburban street is ilegal....

Where does the law say that ? I don't know that rule. I've just got out my well thumbed Road Code. It says


When to dip your vehicles headlamps
You must dip your vehicles headlamps

When other vehicles are coming toward you...
When you are following other vehicles..
When a police officer is directing traffic ..
When you stop

(inset) "If there is plenty of street light you should be able to drive with the headlamps dipped the whole time"



Nothing there about full beam being illegal in a suburban street (presumably, in a 50kph area). In fact, references to police directing traffic and "if there is plenty of street light" imply the reverse.

I frequently use full beam in 50kph areas (subject to the above of course) . I do not think there is a rule against, but welcome correction.

[Swoop]

You pay for an army to defend,
We have an army???

Damn. Could have fooled me.:corn:

[Motu]

Quite right,and in fact high beam is not even a legal requirement,there are only rules on it's adjustment and use,and lamp regulations if fitted.The new rules about driving and fog lamps have come about because of some ignorant twats pushing the rules,and like everything else...we lose yet another area of freedom of choice...like it's as if we can't think.





How's that for evasion and deflection...could I become a politition?

[Dafe]

I had something written out to say to you but it wont convince you of anything. Really i honestly wish some of you guys could be a fly on the wall when i work.

I dont mean to sound arrogant but if you knew what it was like to be a cop, esp where i work, im pretty sure you would think quite differently.

A fly on the wall? Such comments coming from a Police Officer speaking publically....:doh:
Just goes to show the degradation that the Police Force have been undergoing. Not just Physically but also Mentally.

[mini_me]

A fly on the wall? Such comments coming from a Police Officer speaking publically....:doh:
Just goes to show the degradation that the Police Force have been undergoing. Not just Physically but also Mentally.

i'm curious...
but what is so wrong with using the saying 'fly on the wall' and how does it show degradation of the police force
or was that last post as tongue in cheek?

m/m

[vtec]

Man just saw something crazy tonight.

I was just getting into my car to head down to the plaza about 1 minutes drive, to get some orange juice; and I saw a chopper fly slowly overhead, and i thought crap they are looking at me. So anyway I ignored them, and jumped in and drove down to the shops. Grabbed the juice, and as I was leaving about 10 cop cars were just ripping up in the carpark outside foodtown. A bunch of them came in and asked if any of us saw a guy run in there... Nope. Could tell they were just getting all high on drama and crap. Driving home I saw another bunch of cops parked up a side street. Holy shit you would have thought someone had finally assassinated Helen Clarke? News cameras following the cops too.

Wonder what was going on. Looked a bit like overkill though.

[Da Bird]

Man just saw something crazy tonight.

I was just getting into my car to head down to the plaza about 1 minutes drive, to get some orange juice; and I saw a chopper fly slowly overhead, and i thought crap they are looking at me. So anyway I ignored them, and jumped in and drove down to the shops. Grabbed the juice, and as I was leaving about 10 cop cars were just ripping up in the carpark outside foodtown. A bunch of them came in and asked if any of us saw a guy run in there... Nope. Could tell they were just getting all high on drama and crap. Driving home I saw another bunch of cops parked up a side street. Holy shit you would have thought someone had finally assassinated Helen Clarke? News cameras following the cops too.

Wonder what was going on. Looked a bit like overkill though.


Man, you need to get some facts before you start bleating about cops "just getting high on drama and crap".

Having nearly been run down twice in the space of the previous 10 minutes by an idiot in a stolen car that had been followed all the way from the North Shore, you might have your adrenalin going a bit as well. Of course the TV cameras were there - they had been following it as well!

And for your info, here is some more drama and crap that happened today... 3 suicides, 1 almost homocide (3 yr old kid beaten and not likely to survive), a 7 yr old boy died from an asthma attack and had to stop a car at gunpoint after a shooting. Is that enough "drama and crap" for you?

[DEATH_INC.]

How's that for evasion and deflection...could I become a politition?
:niceone: Motu for PM!

[Dafe]

i'm curious...
but what is so wrong with using the saying 'fly on the wall' and how does it show degradation of the police force
or was that last post as tongue in cheek?

m/m
A Fly on the Wall..... Get your flyswots out sunshine, This murder case won't leave the room! Think about it.

A cop wishing that the guys he deals with day in day out could be flies on a wall! It's an analogy, nothing literal!
This cop would love to smash some of us without implications. It would make his life more enjoyable!
In my eyes, It is probably because he'd love to smash us without us being able to smash him back - hence why he chooses a fly of all things.

[Dafe]

Man, you need to get some facts before you start bleating about cops "just getting high on drama and crap".

Having nearly been run down twice in the space of the previous 10 minutes by an idiot in a stolen car that had been followed all the way from the North Shore, you might have your adrenalin going a bit as well.

The last 10 minutes...... Cool! You must have a wireless laptop connection on the Patrol bike. Maybe you should pull well off the road when you logon to Kiwibiker, so these fullas can get past.

Either that or if something happens - You hoon back to the station, plant your arse in the chair and type, type, type. So your fanclub can have a little excitement and fullfilment in their lives.

So you had a bad day, you poor bastard. Just think how many people you give bad days to.
I just got a 65 in a 50 speeding ticket (First ticket in 5 years). I don't give two tosses about cops anymore. Previously I never spoke a bad word of them.
But after getting a speeding ticket for 65 in a 50 from a bike cop while I'm riding a GSXR 1000 K6, I now have no interest in the wellfare of the Police.
This sort of bullshit turned me against cops in an instant.
This is the way the country is going, can't you tell? The cops are becoming the scum of the nation because people like me - Work my arse off every day, pay heavy taxes, spend my tax deducted money on GST Taxed items and then get penalised for 65 in a 50.
You should try a K5/K6 sometime, I have to look at the speedo every 10 seconds because I may have sped up 10kph without realising.
What a load of Bullshit this Government and it's Police force!
You wanna lower the roadtoll? Then impose heavy fines and imprisonments - Take a page out of Singapores book.
In NZ we seem to have found a fine balance for making the maximum profit out of road offences.

Speaking statistics, what about the 6 officers that resigned the force in December, proven guilty of offences by the Police Complaints Authority and then given the opportunity to resign the force or suffer being expelled from the force.

Anyway dude, to cut a long story short. When you've had a bad day - Learn how to wear it on the chin! It's your job! If you can't handle the heat........

[Kickaha]

I just got a 65 in a 50 speeding ticket (First ticket in 5 years). I don't give two tosses about cops anymore. Previously I never spoke a bad word of them.
But after getting a speeding ticket for 65 in a 50 from a bike cop while I'm riding a GSXR 1000 K6, I now have no interest in the wellfare of the Police.
This sort of bullshit turned me against cops in an instant.


Since when was the type of bike you ride an acceptable excuse for exceeding the limit by 15kmh, you know the rules if you break them take the punishmnet and stop snivelling



The cops are becoming the scum of the nation because people like me - Work my arse off every day, pay heavy taxes, spend my tax deducted money on GST Taxed items and then get penalised for 65 in a 50.


you poor bastard I feel so sorry for you:violin:




Speaking statistics, what about the 6 officers that resigned the force in December, proven guilty of offences by the Police Complaints Authority and then given the opportunity to resign the force or suffer being expelled from the force.



How about you quote some statistics from similar sized private orgainisations for a comparison

[wendigo]

And for your info, here is some more drama and crap that happened today... 3 suicides, 1 almost homocide (3 yr old kid beaten and not likely to survive), a 7 yr old boy died from an asthma attack and had to stop a car at gunpoint after a shooting. Is that enough "drama and crap" for you?


Fuck's sake harden up you poof. In a city of 1.5 million people or whatever it is that's nothing. Pittance.

I was going to rant about how singularly useless and pointless the police force in this country is, and how it's basically just a PR exercise which is very good at criminalising law abiding Joe Public, but fuck all use for dealing with the real Scumbags, but it appears that others have already done this for me.

Ps. - If you don't like it, do what the rest of us do - get another job.

[Grahameeboy]

Ps. - If you don't like it, do what the rest of us do - get another job.

I agree there are bad apples in the Police.....like everywhere else......the gooduns are just doing their job and yes they may have targets...set by their bosses just like a lot of us have to do in our own jobs.......it is silly that the Govt allows us to buy Gixxers that can exceed speed limit by almost 300% and then have speed limits but that ain't the fault of the Police....I suspect many think the law is flakey but, like us, they have a job description and annual appraisals.

You and I can move jobs easier as we will just move to another company in the same industry but I guess when you have joined the Police at 17 it must be harder to move.....and not just into Securiy...than it is for us.

I have only meet one cop who was a No 1 Tosser.....how many tossers do you work with or have met.......??

Sorry to side with Cops here..........yeah I know I am a slag..:innocent:

[SPman]

Sorry to side with Cops here..........yeah I know I am a slag..:innocent:
Don't think its an issue of siding with anyone. People are just venting their frustrations with a system that seems to have become seriously flawed in the eyes of the public, regardless of the exertions, good, bad or otherwise of the individual members!
And whats up with the "fly on the wall" beef. Always thought that was a metaphor for seeing what someone else is doing.....or am I just thick, today.

[RantyDave]

the NZ Police ... allow a black market in stolen goods to become a significant black economy
Abso-fucking-lutely they do. The black market for poached Paua is now larger than the legitimate one. This is a problem on three fronts:

* Legitimate (and licensed) Paua fishermen are finding it damn hard to make a living.
* Paua are in very great danger of becoming extinct all together.
* Besides, it means that a ten (or so) times a year half a dozen dodgy bastards park up outside my house and break the law for a few hours.

And *I'm* supposed to stop them? Sure. One weedy pommie computer geek versus six huge and probably gang connected paua poachers? Besides, they know where I live (it's on my doorstep, remember) and I have a partner and daughter to think about.

It's not exactly a hard crime to catch either. It takes hours, it's a complete give away that it's happening and there's a road that leads right from the cop shop to the scene of the crime. Have I seen anyone caught in the last ... ummm .... five years? Nope.

On the plus side the problem is getting less as word goes around about which parts of the coast have been overfished. Great.

Dave

[Lou Girardin]

As far as I can tell dynamytus50 sounds half way decent (maybe he's too new to have developed much arrogance) so I don't see the point in personally abusing him.
On the other hand, the cops have brought public odium on themselves. At least several of the UK forces have realised that the loss in public support is not worth being a tax source for the Govt and have pulled the plug on the "fine 'em at all costs" strategy.
Perhaps the Police Association should collectively grow some balls and start publicly disputing the crap that spouts from their bosses and LTNZ.

[Grahameeboy]

Don't think its an issue of siding with anyone. People are just venting their frustrations with a system that seems to have become seriously flawed in the eyes of the public, regardless of the exertions, good, bad or otherwise of the individual members!
And whats up with the "fly on the wall" beef. Always thought that was a metaphor for seeing what someone else is doing.....or am I just thick, today.

I was just really dealing with Wendigo's comment.

I agree that it is all about Perception but I guess any system that has a more direct impact on the public is always gonna be flawed but I guess what I am saying is that we should not slag off the Police when in the main they are just trying to do a job which involves politics.

People moan about the Health System, no beds, slow care, waiting lists, slow Ambos etc but they don't slag off the Nurses and Ambos so should we be slagging off the Police when they are in the same boat but just out there more so open to criticism......turn it another way, our frustrations may not be helping Police attitudes........guess it is human nature, you have a work colleague who pisses you off so you are likely to get pissed of with them.

What me fly on the wall....swat swat...... :mega:

Surprise surprise I am from the UK and I am not whinging..

[Grahameeboy]

As far as I can tell dynamytus50 sounds half way decent (maybe he's too new to have developed much arrogance) so I don't see the point in personally abusing him.

You are a worry Lou.

On the other hand, the cops have brought public odium on themselves. At least several of the UK forces have realised that the loss in public support is not worth being a tax source for the Govt and have pulled the plug on the "fine 'em at all costs" strategy.
Perhaps the Police Association should collectively grow some balls and start publicly disputing the crap that spouts from their bosses and LTNZ.

The difference in the UK is that there are 40 or so different Police forces who have more control over their jurisdiction and are not lacky boys to DVLA (LTSA Equivalent) or the same school playground stuff that happens here in NZ. Some Forces do not have speed cameras plus with more than one Commissioner for Police I guess they do have more balls....safety in numbers and all that.....guess with only one Commissioner it must be hard to have balls.

[MikeL]

... a system that seems to have become seriously flawed in the eyes of the public...

It surprises me that in an age where image is everything and spin is everywhere, little is being done to correct a public perception of police performance that in any other organization would long since have had heads rolling and a major shake-up of PR. Where are the slick media messages with their silken voice-overs and fast-paced editing? Where are the strategically placed magazine advertisements, with their steel-jawed idealists gazing into the distance to remind us that the thin blue line is what saves us from barbarism and anarchy?

If you can't fix a flawed system (or at least one with serious imbalances and injustices), at least you should spend some money persuading people that your product is a lot better than it really is. Works everywhere else...

[MisterD]

At least several of the UK forces have realised that the loss in public support is not worth being a tax source for the Govt and have pulled the plug on the "fine 'em at all costs" strategy.

Just to elaborate on that, we had plain grey "GATSO" speed cameras everywhere, hidden behind trees and road signs, until finally Joe Public has had enough of the credibility gap between what they see with their eyes and what authority tries to tell them....now the cameras are painted fluro yellow, properly sited at accident blackspots, outside schools etc and marked in the AA motoring atlas. Voilá, instant public support for the whole exercise.

[Patrick]

How this thread has changed... someone bleating about his headlights blinding a funeral procession and getting warned about it, onto a bleat about Policing in general to speed enforcement.

B/C summed it up well on the high drama crap call, and your comeback is whinging over a $80 ticket...

Wow............. I am speechless.............

Looking for someone to blame? Can't control your bike perhaps?

Get a Vespa.........

[Grahameeboy]

Just to elaborate on that, we had plain grey "GATSO" speed cameras everywhere, hidden behind trees and road signs, until finally Joe Public has had enough of the credibility gap between what they see with their eyes and what authority tries to tell them....now the cameras are painted fluro yellow, properly sited at accident blackspots, outside schools etc and marked in the AA motoring atlas. Voilá, instant public support for the whole exercise.

I think that the Public in the UK are different to the Public here in NZ.........and the Govt are too cruisy

[wendigo]

I agree there are bad apples in the Police.....l


I'm not saying there are bad apples in the police - I'm saying the Police force, as it currently exists, is a pointless waste of space.



You and I can move jobs easier as we will just move to another company in the same industry but I guess when you have joined the Police at 17 it must be harder to move.....and not just into Securiy...than it is for us.


Changing jobs - getting a new job in the same industry.
Changing carreers - getting a new job in a new Industry.

Done both. If I can do it, anyone can do it. Requires a little thing called motivation. So fuck em.

[snuffles]

Obviously touched a raw nerve here, dont get me wrong, I think the police are well worth having.

Just asking whats wrong with being polite...............

[Grahameeboy]

I'm not saying there are bad apples in the police - I'm saying the Police force, as it currently exists, is a pointless waste of space.

Okay but a bit harsh.......so guess 111 is not in your phone book then for when you really need them.......sorry but that is a sad comment geezer...

Changing jobs - getting a new job in the same industry.
Changing carreers - getting a new job in a new Industry.

Done both. If I can do it, anyone can do it. Requires a little thing called motivation. So fuck em.

Not really true as we are all different and moving from the Police Force into the Public arena is a little different........not just a motivation thing.

[Grahameeboy]

Obviously touched a raw nerve here, dont get me wrong, I think the police are well worth having.

Just asking whats wrong with being polite...............

Agree geezer

[Slingshot]

Not really true as we are all different and moving from the Police Force into the Public arena is a little different........not just a motivation thing.

Cops could just Perf out and either never have to work again or have the cash to set up their on business.

[bigbadwolf]

anyway, pull up to stop at lights, when I am accosted by some grumpy old shit of a bike cop, who says" turn those spots off , there too bright and not aligned"( there meant to be bright so dumb shits can see me)

Just wondering, would you have gone through the trouble of posting all of this if it had been a civilian who had asked you to turn your lights off?

[judgeshock]

I imagine if it had been a civilian he would have got the up you. I'm sure the politeness would have only been to tell him to f off.:slap:

[Grahameeboy]

Cops could just Perf out and either never have to work again or have the cash to set up their on business.

Blimey didn't know it was that good.......still shouldn't have to be that way eh?

[Slingshot]

Blimey didn't know it was that good.......still shouldn't have to be that way eh?

I'm not sure if it still is, I remember a couple of years back hearing stories of big payouts though.

[wendigo]

"Okay but a bit harsh.......so guess 111 is not in your phone book then for when you really need them.......sorry but that is a sad comment geezer..."

And why precisely would I dial 111 for the cops???? Ambulance? Yeah. Firebrigade, yeah. But the police? Sorry, but I can't think of any realistic worthwhile scenario where ringing the police in an emergency would be of any benefit to me. What I mean by worthwhile scenario, is one where the police would arrive in time to influence the outcome of the scenario.

[Grahameeboy]

Hey do you wear red and black leathers?

I am not sure I should answer that given your occupation.........no no........don't do it.....okay, yes yes Joe Rocket jacket......I didn't mean to do it Officer......I also have other leathers!!!

[Grahameeboy]

"Okay but a bit harsh.......so guess 111 is not in your phone book then for when you really need them.......sorry but that is a sad comment geezer..."

And why precisely would I dial 111 for the cops???? Ambulance? Yeah. Firebrigade, yeah. But the police? Sorry, but I can't think of any realistic worthwhile scenario where ringing the police in an emergency would be of any benefit to me. What I mean by worthwhile scenario, is one where the police would arrive in time to influence the outcome of the scenario.

Sorry to hear you say that matey.....guess you have a few chips which is fair enough.

[Pixie]

What is it with Mr Plod, driving down boulcott st in town yesterday and pulled up out side the church.

they were obviously burying a cop , judging by the amount of blue at the church and the mounted bike cops outside.

.
Finally intering the good name of the NZ Police.
RIP. Died of Managerial Neglect.

[Indoo]

A Fly on the Wall..... Get your flyswots out sunshine, This murder case won't leave the room! Think about it.

A cop wishing that the guys he deals with day in day out could be flies on a wall! It's an analogy, nothing literal!
This cop would love to smash some of us without implications. It would make his life more enjoyable!
In my eyes, It is probably because he'd love to smash us without us being able to smash him back - hence why he chooses a fly of all things.

Either your taking the piss or English isn't your first language. Either way its a bit ironic for you to talk about mental degradation in the Police when you write something as ridiculous as that.

You and Wendigo should get together some time, you could probably communicate on each others level rather well.

[Grahameeboy]

Na i live close to you mate hehe :psst:

Eek.....if you fancy a beer in Devo let me know...I'll pm my number incase Windigo finds out......

[mini_me]

A cop wishing that the guys he deals with day in day out could be flies on a wall! It's an analogy, nothing literal!
This cop would love to smash some of us without implications. It would make his life more enjoyable!
In my eyes, It is probably because he'd love to smash us without us being able to smash him back - hence why he chooses a fly of all things.


ok then.
My understanding of what the cop was saying is that it is just a cryptic way of telling someone that their attitude would be very different if they could merely observe for a day the shit that the cops have to deal with day in and day out.
And I'm not convinced that he meant that literally.
m/m

[Pixie]

Where does the law say that ? I don't know that rule. I've just got out my well thumbed Road Code. It says


Nothing there about full beam being illegal in a suburban street (presumably, in a 50kph area). In fact, references to police directing traffic and "if there is plenty of street light" imply the reverse.

I frequently use full beam in 50kph areas (subject to the above of course) . I do not think there is a rule against, but welcome correction.
It used to be illegal,but that was changed a looong time ago

[terbang]

So what is wrong with high beam on during the day when our eyes are adjusted to ambient daylight.? I don't find it a problem by day though I agree that it is a big problem by night.
A few Rozzers here bleating about all the shit they have to put up with on the job and are sounding a bit stretched thin. You have got mouths, pens,Email so pass the word on (up) that its not working as well as you would like. Joe public can see the contradiction that you are stretched thin on crime whilst hiding behind a speed camera or Radar trap so why can't you.? Perhaps the police psych test is there to weed out those that are capable of individual thought..!

[Patrick]

"Okay but a bit harsh.......so guess 111 is not in your phone book then for when you really need them.......sorry but that is a sad comment geezer..."

And why precisely would I dial 111 for the cops???? Ambulance? Yeah. Firebrigade, yeah. But the police? Sorry, but I can't think of any realistic worthwhile scenario where ringing the police in an emergency would be of any benefit to me. What I mean by worthwhile scenario, is one where the police would arrive in time to influence the outcome of the scenario.

Which is why we "cop" a lot of flak...too many don't want to ring and tell us whats up at the time it is happening...we are supposed to have ESPN or something like that... Sometimes there are f#@kups and we don't get there for any number of reasons...and most of them are real good ones too (except that taxi thing...I thought it sounded like she was after a free ride home too BTW...but you just never know, do you...).

[Finn]

It used to be illegal,but that was changed a looong time ago

In between naps during my CBTA attendance, I did recall the instructor saying that is was a good idea to use high beam during the day.

Although legally it seems to be a grey area. I ride with mine on full during the day for safety reasons. Also, I got tired of people telling me one light was out.

[TLDV8]

Just wondering, would you have gone through the trouble of posting all of this if it had been a civilian who had asked you to turn your lights off?

I doubt it ........ Why is it the same whingers bashing the cops over and over..is it just me or is there at least 1 to 2 threads every day on cop bashing on this site.If you don't like it get off off your !@#$ing lazy arses and join up.Its like a broken record :rofl:
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Just for the record... Someone asked me if i was a cop since i stick up for them a bit..No i am not,but two members of my general family are so i see the BS they put up with on a dayly basis.... I would not be able to do the job simply because i would no doubt batten some C@#t before my first day was over... I saw a post this morning where some clown was moaning that they got ticketed for doing 60 something in a 50..remind why the world is so F!@#ed up.

[Slingshot]

we are supposed to have ESPN or something like that...

My tax payer dollars shouldn't fund ESPN, all the cops would stay at the police station watching pro football all day and they wouldn't be out solving crime!

[Patrick]

I doubt it ........ Why is it the same whingers bashing the cops over and over..is it just me or is there at least 1 to 2 threads every day on cop bashing on this site.If you don't like it get off off your !@#$ing lazy arses and join up.Its like a broken record :rofl:

:laugh: :2thumbsup :2thumbsup :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :killingme :killingme :

[Patrick]

My tax payer dollars shouldn't fund ESPN, all the cops would stay at the police station watching pro football all day and they wouldn't be out solving crime!

Nah...rugby maybe, good with donuts...but ESPN conflicts with the porn channel...

[Lou Girardin]

too many don't want to ring and tell us whats up at the time it is happening...we are supposed to have ESPN or something like that... .

I thought that was a sports channel. Is this the upgrade to the Comms centre we were promised?

[Finn]

I thought that was a sports channel. Is this the upgrade to the Comms centre we were promised?

"We're sorry, your call cannot be answered at the moment but please hold, your call is very important to us."

[Patrick]

I thought that was a sports channel. Is this the upgrade to the Comms centre we were promised?

Nah...we had ESPN in 1993 when I worked in the Control Room (before the Comms Centre)...they took it out.

Didn't have complaints back then over taxis being sent to jobs etc...

[jaybee180]

When I worked in the Comms Centre in Auckland the bosses complained when we asked if we could watch one of the Bledisloe Tests. Meanwhile the fire guys sat back and watched the whole game - but of course they can considering the amount of calls they take in a night.

I might add that this was a Sat night shift with only five of us working to cover the majority of the north island. Still, you gotta be free to take all those calls from the drunken arseholes who want a ride home coz they've drunk all their money aye?

[Ixion]

Harrumph - most of them claim to be blind anyway "Sorry , didn' see ya" . Personally I think blinding those that aren't already is no bad idea, it's easier to get away from them when they can't aim at you

[Finn]

(you know car drivers are like possums!)

Excellent! So you're saying that if a car driver pisses me off, I can bring their skin into Taka Station and you'll give me money for them?

[Grahameeboy]

I guess it depends on how bright your high beams are...they shouldnt be soo high that they cause motorists to get really distracted (you know car drivers are like possums!) or blind them..

Diffy one cause I ride with high beam all the time and if it means that I get noticed then tough.....I once had a green headlight cover on my old bike and I had a lot less near misses....discovered illegal but begs the question about how to make bikes more visible/stand out from cars.

[Rashika]

... Just think how many people you give bad days too.
I just got a 65 in a 50 speeding ticket (First ticket in 5 years). I don't give two tosses about cops anymore. Previously I never spoke a bad word of them.
But after getting a speeding ticket for 65 in a 50 from a bike cop while I'm riding a GSXR 1000 K6, I now have no interest in the wellfare of the Police.

geez mate...ya do the crime, ya do the time... what was it a whole $80?
I'm sure you can afford it with the K6 in the garage. Shame about ya spotless record but if you speed, eventually it will catch up on you....as I'm sure it may with me one day.
65kms is enough to kill someone....no matter what you are riding/driving
At least you have a digital speedo... damn sight easier to see what speed you are going than a conventional one.
You gonna hate all cops just cos you got a ticket cos you fkd up??
People are strange...

[Finn]

think i seen your crotch rocket on shelly beach road onto ponsonby:O ??

Yip, that's me. Give me a wave next time...

[Scouse]

The last 10 minutes...... Cool! You must have a wireless laptop connection on the Patrol bike. Maybe you should pull well off the road when you logon to Kiwibiker, so these fullas can get past.

Either that or if something happens - You hoon back to the station, plant your arse in the chair and type, type, type. So your fanclub can have a little excitement and fullfilment in their lives.

So you had a bad day, you poor bastard. Just think how many people you give bad days too.
I just got a 65 in a 50 speeding ticket (First ticket in 5 years). I don't give two tosses about cops anymore. Previously I never spoke a bad word of them.
But after getting a speeding ticket for 65 in a 50 from a bike cop while I'm riding a GSXR 1000 K6, I now have no interest in the wellfare of the Police.
This sort of bullshit turned me against cops in an instant.
This is the way the country are going, can't you tell? The cops are becoming the scum of the nation because people like me - Work my arse off every day, pay heavy taxes, spend my tax deducted money on GST Taxed items and then get penalised for 65 in a 50.
You should try a K5/K6 sometime, I have to look at the speedo every 10 seconds because I may have sped up 10kph without realising.
What a load of Bullshit this Government and it's Police force!
You wanna lower the roadtoll? Then impose heavy fines and imprisonments - Take a page out of Singapores book.
In NZ we seem to have found a fine balance for making the maximum profit out of road offences.

Speaking statistics, what about the 6 officers that resigned the force in December, proven guilty of offences by the Police Complaints Authority and then given the opportunity to resign the force or suffer being expelled from the force.

Anyway dude, to cut a long story short. When you've had a bad day - Learn how to wear it on the chin! It's your job! If you can't handle the heat........
You sound like a 14 year old

[Grahameeboy]

You sound like a 14 year old

Not another old timer!!!!:rofl:

[notme]

The last 10 minutes...... Cool! You must have a wireless laptop connection on the Patrol bike. Maybe you should pull well off the road when you logon to Kiwibiker, so these fullas can get past.

Either that or if something happens - You hoon back to the station, plant your arse in the chair and type, type, type. So your fanclub can have a little excitement and fullfilment in their lives.

So you had a bad day, you poor bastard. Just think how many people you give bad days too.
I just got a 65 in a 50 speeding ticket (First ticket in 5 years). I don't give two tosses about cops anymore. Previously I never spoke a bad word of them.
But after getting a speeding ticket for 65 in a 50 from a bike cop while I'm riding a GSXR 1000 K6, I now have no interest in the wellfare of the Police.
This sort of bullshit turned me against cops in an instant.
This is the way the country are going, can't you tell? The cops are becoming the scum of the nation because people like me - Work my arse off every day, pay heavy taxes, spend my tax deducted money on GST Taxed items and then get penalised for 65 in a 50.
You should try a K5/K6 sometime, I have to look at the speedo every 10 seconds because I may have sped up 10kph without realising.
What a load of Bullshit this Government and it's Police force!
You wanna lower the roadtoll? Then impose heavy fines and imprisonments - Take a page out of Singapores book.
In NZ we seem to have found a fine balance for making the maximum profit out of road offences.

Speaking statistics, what about the 6 officers that resigned the force in December, proven guilty of offences by the Police Complaints Authority and then given the opportunity to resign the force or suffer being expelled from the force.

Anyway dude, to cut a long story short. When you've had a bad day - Learn how to wear it on the chin! It's your job! If you can't handle the heat........

You'd make a far better point if you didn't contradict yourself within the same post......:rofl:

[cowpoos]

You sound like a 14 year old

gezzzz your a angry little man....did u red rep him and send him a nasty PM aswell ?

[Finn]

Hmmmmmmmmmm that came out twice for some reason..deleted now.

There's gotta be a fine for doing that.:Police:

[vtec]

Man, you need to get some facts before you start bleating about cops "just getting high on drama and crap".

Having nearly been run down twice in the space of the previous 10 minutes by an idiot in a stolen car that had been followed all the way from the North Shore, you might have your adrenalin going a bit as well. Of course the TV cameras were there - they had been following it as well!

And for your info, here is some more drama and crap that happened today... 3 suicides, 1 almost homocide (3 yr old kid beaten and not likely to survive), a 7 yr old boy died from an asthma attack and had to stop a car at gunpoint after a shooting. Is that enough "drama and crap" for you?

There you go getting all high on drama... and this time exaggeration again. If you nearly got run down twice in 10 minutes, then that would be because you knew he was coming and you put yourself on a bike in the way... not smart.

For the amount of cop cars I saw there you could have dealt with 5-10 bloody homicides. So don't go telling me that you're stretched. You're only stretched by your soft target pick on the public for money duties. Seriously solve some bloody car thefts/ and you'll get the crims before they do ram raids, burglary's and robberies (burglaries are out of control). Cause all the crims use stolen cars so that they can't be identified. Sort your shit out before whining to us taxpayers who pay your wages. Well I should apologise to you personally, cause I realise that you don't make the calls on who gets what duties, but I'm quite passionate about sorting New Zealand out... and the retards in charge of the "force" aren't helping.

[EZAS]

nted to remind him , who pays his wages, but thought better of it, just had this picture of me buried under a mass of blue uniforms on the side of the street.

all it takes is a little politeness, starting to loose patience with the fuzz, gonna get ugly soon.

A: If you ask them "what do you get paid for", then you may suffer the fate of spending the night in the cells (LIKE ME). They don't even give a sh*t if your the sober driver for four girls who are still waiting by the car.

B: I lost patience with the fuzz along time ago, thus why I ride a bike :)

Cops only join the force cos they usually have limited education and have yet to be arrested. There all hypocrites (name ONE that hasn't broken the law). They don't honour the crown, they don't care about the general public as they arrest them.

[vtec]

Bugger me, 30-40 staff, for one job. How would you fit them all in the same house, let alone working in that house? I agree that homicide is important and does need good attention. But so does burglary, and theft. A car chase doesn't need 30-40 police and a chopper. As far as I could tell, they were all just looking to get a bit of holden thrashing in. And hopefully get on camera jumping on the crims back.

If you can't handle the stress of following someone, then you better back off before you screw up and hurt the public. There was a bloody chopper for keeping tabs on him. And I'm sure that some of the feds wouldn't find walking the fine line too stressful.

The problem is that smaller crimes lead to bigger ones, cause the perps think that they can do whatever they like without repercussions. Plus car theft is the basis for probably every robbery/burglary committed. Sort vehicle theft out and you'll be amazed at what this will do to the criminal element of society. No more anonymity for crims who drive other peoples cars.

[Indoo]

The problem is that smaller crimes lead to bigger ones, cause the perps think that they can do whatever they like without repercussions. Plus car theft is the basis for probably every robbery/burglary committed. Sort vehicle theft out and you'll be amazed at what this will do to the criminal element of society. No more anonymity for crims who drive other peoples cars.

I would ty to be nice to ya, but you obviously are as thick as two planks (dont ask Dafe what that means)

Its great that your an expert on crime and all but maybe read a bit before you open your mouth and look like a tool. As I would imagine this is the car you are talking about.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=1&ObjectID=10366266

[Indoo]

I would try to be nice to ya, but you obviously are as thick as two planks (dont ask Dafe what that means)

Its great that your an expert on crime and all but maybe read a bit before you open your mouth and look like a tool. As I would imagine this is the car you are talking about.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=1&ObjectID=10366266

BTW its the public ie you who voted the government in, and its the government who dictates Police numbers and the speed limit that they want enforced. If you have a problem with it remember its you who elected them, Police don't have a choice which law to enforce.

[stanko]

Imagine if we had no real crime, every second car would be HP.

[Dafe]

Since when was the type of bike you ride an acceptable excuse for exceeding the limit by 15kmh, you know the rules if you break them take the punishmnet and stop snivelling



you poor bastard I feel so sorry for you:violin:



How about you quote some statistics from similar sized private orgainisations for a comparison

Hi Kickaha,

You need to develop a mindset that can think one step ahead in a conversation. It's not about me getting a fine. Your thinking is very vague.

The issue for discusion here Kickaha is: The government is running dry on issueing the fines of yester-year, hence they are now required to implement rules that are consistantly tightening so that the government can continue with their wealth of monetary income from the fines system.
This style of government control has some resemblance to those of communist structures, name one other country that allows it's government so much freedom to dictate it's countries policies without public involvement, that is not communist or third world..........

Regarding the road fine system. If the government just tripled the monetary penalties for traffic offences, they would see this form of income dry up very quickly - so would the road offences, but do you think Kickaha, that the government wants that?

The government needs this income from the NZ public to fund policies such as the growing refugee influx program.
This is also where the money comes from that will pay our current 5 million dollars of prisoners compensation claims.

Do you see Kickaha, I don't care about the $120 fine I have for doing 65 in a 50, Knowing 10 years ago it would have been ignored by a bike cop.
It's all about how the noose is tightening a little bit more every year and how the average New Zealander is also working a little harder every year too.
You might wonder where this ultimately heads. This is where you must look at our economic allignment, which of course is Asian oriented.
Thus, looking at the structures of countries like Malaysia and Taiwan is a good indication of where we may be 20-30 years from now, if we continue on the current trend. Higher stress lifestyles, stronger work orientated lifestyles and dare I say a very dictatorial government.

So to sum it up simply for you Kickaha, I don't care that I got a fine, money is irrelevant to my interests here.
I'm concerned that this country has a government that has custom designed a Police force to support it's interests with their money gathering methods.
Interests which nowdays require frequent adjusting and altering to meet their requirements. Interest's which are not based around benefitting the NZ public or workers. I think Primarily working NZ'ers should be benefitting from the government policies - definately not refugees.
I'm a firm believer that if you come to NZ, you come with something to offer. After all, anyone can push a lawn mower, clean public amenities or carry out basic council choirs. Why should refugees get money for nothing while NZ'ers go to work, and get taxed to pay for them?

So Kickaha, You feel sorry for me! I'm so flattered!:motu:

Well I feel sorry for every hard tax paying worker in this country. Because the thanks they are getting is nothing more than a gradual trend towards communism and a government that no longer has caring consideration for the interest of it's workers.

The governments policies and policing program is fucking disgusting!

It's a shame so many wankers voted in Aunty Helen, Don Brash may be a cheesy looking git - but at least his policies catered for the best interests of the NZ worker. At least Helen ain't around for much longer, she's farked over this country now and is about to reap the benefits.

[Indoo]

Hi Kickaha

You need to develop a mindset that can think one step ahead in a conversation. It's not about me getting a fine. Your thinking is very vague.

Do you see Kickaha, I don't care about the $120 fine I have for doing 65 in a 50, Knowing 10 years ago it would have been ignored by a bike cop.
.

I'm glad your smart enough to be thinking one step ahead Dafe, but i'm just a mere fly on the wall and I'm wondering how you can get a 120 dollar fine for doing 15k's over which is quite clearly a 80 dollar fine. Please write in and defend this, friend.

[vtec]

I would ty to be nice to ya, but you obviously are as thick as two planks (dont ask Dafe what that means)

Its great that your an expert on crime and all but maybe read a bit before you open your mouth and look like a tool. As I would imagine this is the car you are talking about.


Wow, that was some really well thought out post with information to back up your points :rofl:

I did read that this morning... I first posted about it last night... dumbarse

Funny thing is I was driving a Red Honda :P


BTW its the public ie you who voted the government in, and its the government who dictates Police numbers and the speed limit that they want enforced. If you have a problem with it remember its you who elected them, Police don't have a choice which law to enforce.


Hey I'm not one of the many hanging on to the taxpayers purse who voted Helen back in. She's managed to get it so that enough people are getting handouts from the taxpayer, that they think they will be worse off if National gets in and starts cutting taxes. Yeah and I think the government is a bunch of wankers. At least old Brashy says what he thinks, and whats even more impressive is that it usually makes sense and rings true. Still I don't know how National would handle a currently half arsed (mostly through mismanagement) police force.

[Indoo]

[QUOTE=vtec]

I did read that this morning... I first posted about it last night... dumbarse


QUOTE]

Thanks mate, maybe next time before ranting on try waiting a little, its certainly helped me!

[madboy]

The police force is incompetently run. The upper echelons are far too interested in their own self-serving agendas (performance targets) to care about what actually happens on the frontline, who they let in to do it, or whether they can effectively do it in the first place. It's all about achieving those targets - doesn't matter if PR suffers. If LTNZ says to the commissioner that they'll fund $50m per year if the Police can win an annual popularity contest the Highway Patrol will be suddenly be send on customer focus courses, will turn a blind eye to speed and bust only boyracers, drunk drivers and caravans. It's all about targets.

Public perception is NO WHERE in those targets. NO WHERE. And so public perception of the police is a nothing issue. I have my reasons for not liking them, and I can't say it's related to a 65k ticket, but "normal" law abiding Joe Public only sees the cops for two things usually. Burglary and speeding tickets. Most people don't have an immediate family member raped/murdered/brutalised, most of us don't get our offices robbed at knifepoint, nor our ex-partners threaten to kill us with shotguns. But just about everyone has or knows of someone who's house has been burgled AND who's had a bullshit little speeding ticket. I don't get sympathy when I rock up to work saying I just got busted for 149k, but everyone thinks I'm hard done by at 111k. Where are most tickets issued? Not at 149k.

So your house gets burgled? Cops are too busy (hey, fellas, not having a crack at you frontline chaps - I'm just stating facts) to come for HOURS, possibly the next day. Now most people are pretty pissed that the fuzz don't show on demand.

So when they get a ticket for 62 in a 50? Mate... it's the end of the world. "You bastards couldn't show up until the next f***ing day when my house got trashed, but you've got time to hide at the end of a four-lane road at 7am on Sunday morning to give me a f***ing ticket????!!!"

And THAT is where you get threads like this will all the pig bashing. People don't draw a line between Highway Patrol/Traffic/General Duties. You're all cops. Stop focusing on bullshit traffic (I'm all cool with being chased for 149, but 111 is pretty sad), and start concentrating on the bread and butter.

And to the cops who don't like getting the verbal bash - I put this to you - if you don't like the heat, get out of the kitchen. You CHOOSE to work for that type of organisation, so don't whinge when the shit starts flying.

[vtec]

Thanks mate, maybe next time before ranting on try waiting a little, its certainly helped me!

Why wait... I know what I saw, and was perfectly entitled to ask about it.

Stop wasting post room... you do realise everyone following this thread has to read what you write?

[Rhino]

Why wait... I know what I saw, and was perfectly entitled to ask about it.

Stop wasting post room... you do realise everyone following this thread has to read what you write?
So, we all have to read your crap too!:2guns:

[Dafe]

I'm glad your smart enough to be thinking one step ahead Dafe, but i'm just a mere fly on the wall and I'm wondering how you can get a 120 dollar fine for doing 15k's over which is quite clearly a 80 dollar fine. Please write in and defend this, friend.

Well there we go! It's only $80.
Well, how often have I said it's not about the money for me!






You need to develop a mindset that can think one step ahead in a conversation. It's not about me getting a fine.


Do you see Kickaha, I don't care about the $120 fine I have for doing 65 in a 50,

So to sum it up simply for you Kickaha, I don't care that I got a fine, money is irrelevant to my interests here.

Obviously it ain't, cause I didn't even know how much the fine was for!!! Haha!
Then again who ever cares? The hassle for me is the time taken to pay it and equally working out how I'll pay it.
So..... Whats to defend???

BTW - Thanks Indoo for this opportunity to show my credibility!:woohoo:

Does this mean - You're still just a fly on the wall?

[vtec]

Fucksakes. Rhino. I just gave indoo a hard time, cause he was just making absolutely useless little posts, and getting into lame arse arguments (about things like hey its $80 rather than $120) thinking he was doing everyone a favour by making them read it.

Like this kind of crap:


Its great that your an expert on crime and all but maybe read a bit before you open your mouth and look like a tool. As I would imagine this is the car you are talking about.

Just an aggravating statement with no real explanation as to why I looked like a "tool". And yes as far as being an expert on crime... I know a fair bit about it as having been on the receiving end of what I would consider a fair share. And it doesn't take a brain surgeon to notice that burglary's/robberies are nearly always done from stolen vehicles.

[scumdog]

like you lot would turn up....piffft!!

Shit yeah! Who wants to miss a chance to shoot a loser?

[scumdog]

There you go getting all high on drama... and this time exaggeration again. If you nearly got run down twice in 10 minutes, then that would be because you knew he was coming and you put yourself on a bike in the way... not smart.

For the amount of cop cars I saw there you could have dealt with 5-10 bloody homicides. So don't go telling me that you're stretched. You're only stretched by your soft target pick on the public for money duties. Seriously solve some bloody car thefts/ and you'll get the crims before they do ram raids, burglary's and robberies (burglaries are out of control). Cause all the crims use stolen cars so that they can't be identified. Sort your shit out before whining to us taxpayers who pay your wages. Well I should apologise to you personally, cause I realise that you don't make the calls on who gets what duties, but I'm quite passionate about sorting New Zealand out... and the retards in charge of the "force" aren't helping.

So when ya goin' to join up and show the rest of us how it's done????:wait:

[vtec]

So when ya goin' to join up and show the rest of us how it's done????:wait:

Never... firstly my IQ is too high (I've got the ability to think for myself)
Secondly, its management thats got it fucked, not so much the coppers themselves.
But the current lot aren't helping the situation much if they believe what they are saying on this forum.
I would never join up with something that I see as twisted as the New Zealand Police force.

[scumdog]

You're just a leech, sucking up money for Helen and her fiasco.

Eat your heart out sucker - you pay for all of the above!!:woohoo: :rofl:

[Finn]

Okay, anyone for pizza?

[scumdog]

So you had a bad day, you poor bastard. Just think how many people you give bad days to.
I just got a 65 in a 50 speeding ticket (First ticket in 5 years). I don't give two tosses about cops anymore. Previously I never spoke a bad word of them.
.

You had a bad day 'cos you get a speeding ticket?? Didums!
YOU didn't GET a bad day in that case, you TOOK it with both hands - after all it was preventable.
And if that is what it takes to give you a 'bad day' then you have a real soft life.
Get over it.


Maybe the cop should have given you a rant about how YOU gave HIM a bad day by speeding and making him write out a ticket he felt he didn't want to????????????????????:scratch:

[Dafe]

Eat your heart out sucker - you pay for all of the above!!:woohoo: :rofl:

Well, personally I'm a great believer in Tax write offs - Hence I own my own company.

My concerns as stated are not selfishly for myself - More for those unfortunate workers who do not know how to get around the system.

Company Benefits - Back at ya pal!:tugger:

[scumdog]

Okay, anyone for pizza?

Yep, me! I'm enjoying this - oh, and don't forget some beer eh?

[Dafe]

You had a bad day 'cos you get a speeding ticket?? Didums!
YOU didn't GET a bad day in that case, you TOOK it with both hands - after all it was preventable.
And if that is what it takes to give you a 'bad day' then you have a real soft life.
Get over it.


Maybe the cop should have given you a rant about how YOU gave HIM a bad day by speeding and making him write out a ticket he felt he didn't want to????????????????????:scratch:

In my books - Getting a ticket constitutes having a bad day.
I decided at an early stage to educate myself, so that my definatition of having a bad day, was not dealing with criminals, unreasonable drunks and aggresive life-threatening situations. I decided to leave that for some uneducated looser, just like you!:laugh:

The cop could have had a rant, but....... I don't much respect revenue collectors and I get my kicks out of exposing their lack of intelligence. Just like now!

Ohhhhh, this soft and gentle life I live!!!:wari:

[Cookie]

[snip]I would never join up with something that I see as twisted as the New Zealand Police force.

Spoken like a true 18 year old. Farkenhell mate. Move to China or Indonesia or Guatemala or Angola or any one of dozens and dozens of cultural and political backwaters on this planet. THEN you meet some twisted Police and there will not be a single thing you or god's army can do about it.

My advice: Travel, or maybe read the newspaper or something and get it all into a bit of perspective.

< /rant >

[scumdog]

Cops only join the force cos they usually have limited education and have yet to be arrested. There all hypocrites (name ONE that hasn't broken the law). They don't honour the crown, they don't care about the general public as they arrest them.


So you have been there/done that and are speaking from personal experience?

Or was your education TOO limited??

So I've speeded/driven after drinking too much/smoked my tyres/been in brawls/pissed inpublic?? (and that was just at the Woodstock rally!), try and find somebody who has NEVER broken ANY law before you get excited matey!

[vtec]

Spoken like a true 18 year old. Farkenhell mate. Move to China or Indonesia or Guatemala or Angola or any one of dozens and dozens of cultural and political backwaters on this planet. THEN you meet some twisted Police and there will not be a single thing you or god's army can do about it.

My advice: Travel, or maybe read the newspaper or something and get it all into a bit of perspective.

< /rant >

So third world countries have a worse police system than our own. That still doesn't change the fact that the force is run like a separate IRD department. Instead of fighting crime. I'm still not impressed.

You're obviously one of the people over 25 that the cops show a bit of respect to... or maybe one of the few who hasn't had a vehicle stolen or been burglarised, and witnessed how our system is really run.

I know there are shit places in the world, but New Zealand doesn't have to be one of those.

[scumdog]

The cop could have had a rant, but....... I don't much respect revenue collectors and I get my kicks out of exposing their lack of intelligence. Just like now!

Ohhhhh, this soft and gentle life I live!!!:wari:

Just like the dope seller thinks it's all about revenue gathering, and the sexo who thinks HE's being picked on - EVERYBODY thinks they have a cross to bear - and their cross is the biggest one.

Back to my Bourbon, on holiday since last Friday and not back to work until next Tuesday and SO enjoying this banter, keeps me laughing! :nya:

[Dafe]

For the record....Scumdog!

I'll make this simple!

I'm not Anti-police. I'm Anti-government. (This labour Government!)
My dislikes filter from me, through the Police Officer directly to the source of the issues - The Government.
You guys do what your told, you have no choice. I respect that, we all know you're the brain bus doesn't stop at the Police Officer. What I don't respect is the policies you enforce. That does not mean I dislike Police, because I don't, not one bit.
I dislike the Government and their policies which you poor bastards have to support.

[scumdog]

And to the cops who don't like getting the verbal bash - I put this to you - if you don't like the heat, get out of the kitchen. You CHOOSE to work for that type of organisation, so don't whinge when the shit starts flying.

You can't mean me, shit no - I ain't leaving, never had so much fun since the day I pepper-sprayed the loser having a drug induced fit - but at least he wasn't speeding!!!!!:nya: :laugh: :lol: :rofl:

[scumdog]

Never... firstly my IQ is too high (I've got the ability to think for myself)
Secondly, its management thats got it fucked, not so much the coppers themselves.
But the current lot aren't helping the situation much if they believe what they are saying on this forum.
I would never join up with something that I see as twisted as the New Zealand Police force.

So I guess the problem of sorting out the management is in the 'too hard' basket for you?
Nothing like ignoring a problem to make it go away eh??:wait: :yawn:

[Cookie]

So third world countries have a worse police system than our own. That still doesn't change the fact that the force is run like a separate IRD department. Instead of fighting crime. I'm still not impressed.

You're obviously one of the people over 25 that the cops show a bit of respect to... or maybe one of the few who hasn't had a vehicle stolen or been burglarised, and witnessed how our system is really run.

Yep - I have had two cars stolen - one a rather nice Honda Prelude - an interest we might have in common? I don't care that they have never found the cars - they can be replaced. I did ride shotgun one night with some cops who got a call saying a woman reported a guy in her back yard at 1:00 am. Man did they move.

I don't know if I would get respect or not. I think they would give me no more respect than the next grey haired old bastard who says "I pay your wages" The cops don't just get sh*t from under 25s.

Yes I studied sociology and wept for every down-trodden, muddy-turnip eating, poor person who .. oh never mind.

It's late. I should be true to my sig. :msn-wink:

[Dafe]

Just like the dope seller thinks it's all about revenue gathering, and the sexo who thinks HE's being picked on - EVERYBODY thinks they have a cross to bear - and their cross is the biggest one.

Back to my Bourbon, on holiday since last Friday and not back to work until next Tuesday and SO enjoying this banter, keeps me laughing! :nya:

Don't forget the dope seller knows he runs a risk. As does the sexo too. They sacrifice the risk for something they consider rewarding at the end of it.
Unfortunately, in relation to what these people are reaping for their sacrifices..... You are getting nothing in comparison for your sacrifices! Bwahhhahahahahah!!!!


:corn:

[vtec]

So I guess the problem of sorting out the management is in the 'too hard' basket for you?
Nothing like ignoring a problem to make it go away eh??:wait: :yawn:

I'm not ignoring the problem, I'm openly discussing it. I'm not in a position to make it change. Its not so much the "too hard basket" but rather the "too much a waste of life" basket.
From what I've seen the guys in management in the force have to do years in the force before working their way up. I've got more important things to do with my life... but I'm willing to try to help by discussing it.

ApplicatioNZ: Well you have had cars (plural) stolen, ever wonder why car theft is so prevalent when there is so many cops busting hardened 65 in a 50 speeders?

[scumdog]

Don't forget the dope seller knows he runs a risk. As does the sexo too. They sacrifice the risk for something they consider rewarding at the end of it.
Unfortunately, in relation to what these people are reaping for their sacrifices..... You are getting nothing in comparison for your sacrifices! Bwahhhahahahahah!!!!


:corn:

Sort of like the risk for something they consider rewarding by speeders??:nya: :bleh: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Dunno about 'sacrifices' but I get a shitload of reward from the public!!

[Dafe]

Sort of like the risk for something they consider rewarding by speeders??:nya: :bleh: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Dunno about 'sacrifices' but I get a shitload of reward from the public!!

Absolutely - 5 Years of speeding has cost me $80.
I love speeding!!!!!
If I'm desperate, I fork over $100 for 60 minutes speeding at Manfield.

Do you think $80 is peanuts for 5 years criminal behaviour?
I do, hence - I'm reaping my rewards hard out!!!

[scumdog]

Absolutely - 5 Years of speeding has cost me $80.
I love speeding!!!!!
If I'm desperate, I fork over $100 for 60 minutes speeding at Manfield.

Do you think $80 is peanuts for 5 years criminal behaviour?
I do, hence - I'm reaping my rewards hard out!!!

So you had a bad day, you poor bastard. Just think how many people you give bad days to.
I just got a 65 in a 50 speeding ticket (First ticket in 5 years). I don't give two tosses about cops anymore. Previously I never spoke a bad word of them.


Are the above two comments REALLY from the same person? or have I had too much Bourbon? (again, some would say!):weird:

[Virago]

Well, personally I'm a great believer in Tax write offs - Hence I own my own company.

Feel free to research on the Companies Register for company number: 1695992
Go to: http://www.companies.govt.nz/pls/web/dbssiten.main

My concerns as stated are not selfishly for myself - More for those unfortunate workers who do not know how to get around the system.

Company Benefits - Back at ya pal!:tugger:
Wow - you have your own company! Are we supposed to be impressed? What does posting up your company details in this thread have to do with the argument?:tugger: I'll check the register again in a couple of years - if you're still there I might be more impressed.

Still, as you have ways of getting around the system, getting a speeding ticket shouldn't ruin your day after all.

Virago
(1351644)

[Virago]

........But after getting a speeding ticket for 65 in a 50 from a bike cop while I'm riding a GSXR 1000 K6, I now have no interest in the wellfare of the Police.........
But don't forget Scumdog, he rides a GSXR 1000 K6, and he owns his own company........

[scumdog]

But don't forget Scumdog, he rides a GSXR 1000 K6, and he owns his own company........

I know, what with owning a XL1200 'S' and working as 'The Man" how can I hope to compete??

[Virago]

I know, what with owning a XL1200 'S' and working as 'The Man" how can I hope to compete??
Ooooooh, an XL1200 'S' - I am impressed..........:msn-wink:

[Dafe]

But don't forget Scumdog, he rides a GSXR 1000 K6, and he owns his own company........

Hey Scumdog, there is more like you here. Here's another one that missed the boat on precisely what I'm talking about. Even though I've spelled it out as simply as I can. Virago must be one of closed minded NZ'ers that would vote for Labours policies. You see, Virago is proof that we still have kiwis out there that look at the surface but mentally can't scratch beneath to reveal the underlying issues that are causing this countries qualities to subside away.
Obviously very shallow in mind! But hey, thats what you get when somebody like Virago inputs their partly informed two cents worth! :motu:

[Dafe]

But don't forget Scumdog, he rides a GSXR 1000 K6, and he owns his own company........

Hey Virago, we are having an constructive and informative discussion here on this topic. It doesn't take long before somebody has to revert it back to - Bike, Ugh, Ooohhhh, Suzuki GSXR, Me clever..... Me can read! - Doh, My name's Virago, Doh!
But I think some of us are over that! :finger:

[Indoo]

I'm still not over the whole fly on the wall saga to be honest.

[MikeL]

The police force is incompetently run. The upper echelons are far too interested in their own self-serving agendas (performance targets) to care about what actually happens on the frontline, who they let in to do it, or whether they can effectively do it in the first place. It's all about achieving those targets - doesn't matter if PR suffers. If LTNZ says to the commissioner that they'll fund $50m per year if the Police can win an annual popularity contest the Highway Patrol will be suddenly be send on customer focus courses, will turn a blind eye to speed and bust only boyracers, drunk drivers and caravans. It's all about targets.

Public perception is NO WHERE in those targets. NO WHERE. And so public perception of the police is a nothing issue. I have my reasons for not liking them, and I can't say it's related to a 65k ticket, but "normal" law abiding Joe Public only sees the cops for two things usually. Burglary and speeding tickets. Most people don't have an immediate family member raped/murdered/brutalised, most of us don't get our offices robbed at knifepoint, nor our ex-partners threaten to kill us with shotguns. But just about everyone has or knows of someone who's house has been burgled AND who's had a bullshit little speeding ticket. I don't get sympathy when I rock up to work saying I just got busted for 149k, but everyone thinks I'm hard done by at 111k. Where are most tickets issued? Not at 149k.

So your house gets burgled? Cops are too busy (hey, fellas, not having a crack at you frontline chaps - I'm just stating facts) to come for HOURS, possibly the next day. Now most people are pretty pissed that the fuzz don't show on demand.

So when they get a ticket for 62 in a 50? Mate... it's the end of the world. "You bastards couldn't show up until the next f***ing day when my house got trashed, but you've got time to hide at the end of a four-lane road at 7am on Sunday morning to give me a f***ing ticket????!!!"

And THAT is where you get threads like this will all the pig bashing. People don't draw a line between Highway Patrol/Traffic/General Duties. You're all cops. Stop focusing on bullshit traffic (I'm all cool with being chased for 149, but 111 is pretty sad), and start concentrating on the bread and butter.

And to the cops who don't like getting the verbal bash - I put this to you - if you don't like the heat, get out of the kitchen. You CHOOSE to work for that type of organisation, so don't whinge when the shit starts flying.

Well done, madboy. An oasis of common sense in a desert of ignorance, prejudice and stupid invective.

[Rashika]

In my books - Getting a ticket constitutes having a bad day.
Shit REALLY? Damn wish mine were that bad...
I'd consider my Grandma dying last week as a bad day...or when I was home-invaded by some damn creep as I slept... or maybe getting separated... or run into by some twerp... but getting a speeding ticket? Ah no, I'd just consider that stoopid on my behalf...it might piss me off but would still be my own fault.

I decided at an early stage to educate myself, so that my definatition of having a bad day, was not dealing with criminals, unreasonable drunks and aggresive life-threatening situations. I decided to leave that for some uneducated looser, just like you!:laugh:

The cop could have had a rant, but....... I don't much respect revenue collectors and I get my kicks out of exposing their lack of intelligence. Just like now!
oh pleeeeeze... yup all cops aren't educated, all politicians are fkwts and Dorkland is gonna with the Super14 :rolleyes:
If you really wanted to change the govn then you'd get off ya high horse and ACTUALLY do it.... talking is just that, TALK.
Me I accept the govn has its problems, but so does every damn govt and most businesses ... and will always have cos you cant please everyone all the time, its always gonna be a no-win situation. Fight the battles you can win, you'll never win the war... it aint winable. <_<

[Sniper]

Im amazed at how "Hard done by" everyone seems to be when the subject of police comes up. Shit, they do their job and have to put up with Idiots bitching and moaning about shit that they do wrong and end up getting caught.

I would like to see Dafe, snuffels or anyone else who calls the cops arseholes to spend a week in their shoes. Maybe you might learn something.

[WINJA]

In my books - Getting a ticket constitutes having a bad day.
I decided at an early stage to educate myself, so that my definatition of having a bad day, was not dealing with criminals, unreasonable drunks and aggresive life-threatening situations. I decided to leave that for some uneducated looser, just like you!:laugh:

The cop could have had a rant, but....... I don't much respect revenue collectors and I get my kicks out of exposing their lack of intelligence. Just like now!

Ohhhhh, this soft and gentle life I live!!!:wari:
SO DO A RUNNER BITCH

[WINJA]

Shit REALLY? Damn wish mine were that bad...
I'd consider my Grandma dying last week as a bad day...or when I was home-invaded by some damn creep as I slept... or maybe getting separated... or run into by some twerp... but getting a speeding ticket? Ah no, I'd just consider that stoopid on my behalf...it might piss me off but would still be my own fault.

oh pleeeeeze... yup all cops aren't educated, all politicians are fkwts and Dorkland is gonna with the Super14 :rolleyes:
If you really wanted to change the govn then you'd get off ya high horse and ACTUALLY do it.... talking is just that, TALK.
Me I accept the govn has its problems, but so does every damn govt and most businesses ... and will always have cos you cant please everyone all the time, its always gonna be a no-win situation. Fight the battles you can win, you'll never win the war... it aint winable. <_<
EVERYONES GRANDMA IS GOING TO DIE, AND IF THE PIGS SPENT LESS TIME BEING A ROAD SIDE CASH REGISTER GETTING A HOME INVASION WOULD BE LESS LIKELY CAUSE WHEN YOU SOLVE THE SMALL PROBLEMS THERE LESS LIKELY TO BECOME BIG ONES .AS FOR GETTING SEPERATED ONLY YOU KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT THAT AND IM TRYING NOT TO BE MEAN LATELY SO I WONT COMMENT .AND BTW ITS AUCKLAND AND YOU WILL RESPECT NZ'S BEST CITY

[Lou Girardin]

BTW its the public ie you who voted the government in, and its the government who dictates Police numbers and the speed limit that they want enforced. If you have a problem with it remember its you who elected them, Police don't have a choice which law to enforce.

Bullshit Indoo, it's your bosses who sold Police independence out to the LTNZ, and it was your bosses who curried favour with the Govt by pointing out the lovely fine revenue that would accrue from harsh enforcement.

[Virago]

Hey Virago, we are having an constructive and informative discussion here on this topic. It doesn't take long before somebody has to revert it back to - Bike, Ugh, Ooohhhh, Suzuki GSXR, Me clever..... Me can read! - Doh, My name's Virago, Doh!
But I think some of us are over that! :finger:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Dafe, you are neither constructive or informative - you're a self-absorbed, egocentric tosser. Keep it up, this is hilarious.

[Grahameeboy]

Shit REALLY? Damn wish mine were that bad...
I'd consider my Grandma dying last week as a bad day...or when I was home-invaded by some damn creep as I slept... or maybe getting separated... or run into by some twerp... but getting a speeding ticket? Ah no, I'd just consider that stoopid on my behalf...it might piss me off but would still be my own fault.



So you reckon you are hard done by then?.....

[WINJA]

Dunno about 'sacrifices' but I get a shitload of reward from the public!!
YOU MEAN THINGS LIKE GETTING A WHEEL RIM FOR A HAT , SURELY YOUVE NOTICED THE LACK OF RESPECT FOR YOUR LINE OF WORK IS INCREASING

[Lou Girardin]

Just like the dope seller thinks it's all about revenue gathering, and the sexo who thinks HE's being picked on - EVERYBODY thinks they have a cross to bear - and their cross is the biggest one.
:nya:

They're criminals.
In contrast to the hundreds of thousands of ordinary, mainly harmless NZ'ers that get pedantic little speeding tickets. (Your new Road Safety manager's "hard core" speeders) Of which, over 66% are for 11 to 15 km/h over the limit.
That's spreading the cross a little wide, don't you think?

[Grahameeboy]

Bullshit Indoo, it's your bosses who sold Police independence out to the LTNZ, and it was your bosses who curried favour with the Govt by pointing out the lovely fine revenue that would accrue from harsh enforcement.

Lou.....do they have a choice in NZ....."No" is the answer because that is the way it is here.......see my previous post re UK.....

[WINJA]

BTW its the public ie you who voted the government in, and its the government who dictates Police numbers and the speed limit that they want enforced. If you have a problem with it remember its you who elected them, Police don't have a choice which law to enforce.
AND NO MATTER WHO WE VOTE FOR IT NEVER CHANGES ANYTHING RE ROAD RULES AND FINES, DONT YOU THINK ITS TIME THE COPS MADE A MORAL DECESION TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND START FIGHTING CRIME .
I KNOW YOU PRICKS DONT BELIEVE IN ROAD SAFETY JUST LOOK AT THE POLICE DRIVING RECORD AND CONTRADICTIONS LIKE UNCLE HELENS SPEEDING MOTORCADE .

[WINJA]

Lou.....do they have a choice in NZ....."No" is the answer because that is the way it is here.......see my previous post re UK.....
EVRYONE HAS A CHOICE , I HAD A CHOICE BETWEEN DOING SOMETHING IMMORAL OR LOSING MY JOB AND I CHOSE TO LOSE MY JOB .
A LONG TIME AGO THE POLICE THREATENED TO LEAVE THEIR TICKET BOOKS IN THEIR LOCKERS AS A PROTEST OVER SOMETHING SO ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE (LOU CORRECT ME IF IM WRONG , IT MAY HAVE BEEN A DRUG INDUCED FANTASY)

[Rashika]

EVERYONES GRANDMA IS GOING TO DIE,
yeah i know...but I still consider it a bad day...sigh


AND IF THE PIGS SPENT LESS TIME BEING A ROAD SIDE CASH REGISTER GETTING A HOME INVASION WOULD BE LESS LIKELY CAUSE WHEN YOU SOLVE THE SMALL PROBLEMS THERE LESS LIKELY TO BECOME BIG ONES
The cops did well actually, there within a couple of hours, even took DNA cos the fkrs had a beer while they were there...bizarre! Mind you, never did get a result, ce la vie i guess.


AS FOR GETTING SEPERATED ONLY YOU KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT THAT AND IM TRYING NOT TO BE MEAN LATELY SO I WONT COMMENT .AND BTW ITS AUCKLAND AND YOU WILL RESPECT NZ'S BEST CITY
yeah i noticed ya getting soft, must be old age setting in :spudbooge KIDDING....DONT HURT ME! :apumpin:



RESPECT NZ's BEST CITY, I do... oh you mean dorkland? .......yeah right...whatever ya say :killingme

[Grahameeboy]

EVRYONE HAS A CHOICE , I HAD A CHOICE BETWEEN DOING SOMETHING IMMORAL OR LOSING MY JOB AND I CHOSE TO LOSE MY JOB .
A LONG TIME AGO THE POLICE THREATENED TO LEAVE THEIR TICKET BOOKS IN THEIR LOCKERS AS A PROTEST OVER SOMETHING SO ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE (LOU CORRECT ME IF IM WRONG , IT MAY HAVE BEEN A DRUG INDUCED FANTASY)

Sorry but not every one has a choice......good on yer for making a choice but you cannot use your example to generalise.....I have made choices but I have no choice over my own personal circumstances because there is nothing I can do to change things so just have to make the most of it.

I think things have changed since "a long time ago" according to my Kiwi friends wih constant PC etc......with only 1 Police Commissioner it must be a lonely place at times whereas in the UK they have safety in numbers..

[WINJA]

yeah i know...but I still consider it a bad day...sigh


The cops did well actually, there within a couple of hours, even took DNA cos the fkrs had a beer while they were there...bizarre! Mind you, never did get a result, ce la vie i guess.


yeah i noticed ya getting soft, must be old age setting in :spudbooge KIDDING....DONT HURT ME! :apumpin:



RESPECT NZ's BEST CITY, I do... oh you mean dorkland? .......yeah right...whatever ya say :killingme
I THINK YOU MISSED MY POINT , I THINK IF THE PIGS SORTED OUT GATEWAY CRIMES LIKE PETTY THEFT , STEALING FROM CARS AND STEALING PANTIES OFF THE CLOTHES LINE , THEN THESE SMALL TIME CRIMINALS ARE LESS LIKELY TO BECOME BIGGER CRIMINALS DOING HOME INVASIONS , SERIOUS ASSULT ETC ETC .
INSTEAD 30 COPS WILL CHASE 1 CAR AROUND AT HIGH SPEED FOR 1 HOUR

[Grahameeboy]

I THINK YOU MISSED MY POINT , I THINK IF THE PIGS SORTED OUT GATEWAY CRIMES LIKE PETTY THEFT , STEALING FROM CARS AND STEALING PANTIES OFF THE CLOTHES LINE , THEN THESE SMALL TIME CRIMINALS ARE LESS LIKELY TO BECOME BIGGER CRIMINALS DOING HOME INVASIONS , SERIOUS ASSULT ETC ETC .
INSTEAD 30 COPS WILL CHASE 1 CAR AROUND AT HIGH SPEED FOR 1 HOUR

Agree.............preventative Policing.

[WINJA]

Sorry but not every one has a choice......good on yer for making a choice but you cannot use your example to generalise.....I have made choices but I have no choice over my own personal circumstances because there is nothing I can do to change things so just have to make the most of it.

I think things have changed since "a long time ago" according to my Kiwi friends wih constant PC etc......with only 1 Police Commissioner it must be a lonely place at times whereas in the UK they have safety in numbers..
YES EVERYONE HAS A CHOICE , I HAVE A MORTGAGE SO DONT THINK IT WAS EASY FOR ME.
EVEN THE GUARDS AT NAZI CONCENTRATION CAMPS HAD A CHOICE , "JUST DOING MY JOB" IS NO EXCUSE FOR ANYTHING

[Rashika]

I THINK YOU MISSED MY POINT , I THINK IF THE PIGS SORTED OUT GATEWAY CRIMES LIKE PETTY THEFT , STEALING FROM CARS AND STEALING PANTIES OFF THE CLOTHES LINE , THEN THESE SMALL TIME CRIMINALS ARE LESS LIKELY TO BECOME BIGGER CRIMINALS DOING HOME INVASIONS , SERIOUS ASSULT ETC ETC .
INSTEAD 30 COPS WILL CHASE 1 CAR AROUND AT HIGH SPEED FOR 1 HOUR
nah didn't miss it ...and I agree, little shit often leads to big shit. But what we dont see is all the times it doesn't, when some twerp does get their arse kicked whether it be by mum and dad or the local plod. We only really get to hear about the 30 cops chasing one guy, cos thats NEWS!
And EXCITING NEWS is much better for TV than boring old 'we did this right' news :msn-wink:

[Finn]

IM TRYING NOT TO BE MEAN LATELY SO I WONT COMMENT

Words have failed me. Don't go soft on us.

[Grahameeboy]

YES EVERYONE HAS A CHOICE , I HAVE A MORTGAGE SO DONT THINK IT WAS EASY FOR ME.
EVEN THE GUARDS AT NAZI CONCENTRATION CAMPS HAD A CHOICE , "JUST DOING MY JOB" IS NO EXCUSE FOR ANYTHING

We will have to beg (I know you like that word!!) to disagree Winja....life is not just about your experiences......like you are not the only one with a mortgage.........brace yourself........

[Grahameeboy]

Words have failed me. Don't go soft on us.

Said the Actress to the Bishop!!!!

[scumdog]

Hey Scumdog, there is more like you here. Here's another one that missed the boat on precisely what I'm talking about. :

..like you here"?? You mean it's not just me that posts here for entertainment?:rofl:

[scumdog]

YOU MEAN THINGS LIKE GETTING A WHEEL RIM FOR A HAT , SURELY YOUVE NOTICED THE LACK OF RESPECT FOR YOUR LINE OF WORK IS INCREASING

No, not at all, must be a thing in your area?

[Lou Girardin]

Lou.....do they have a choice in NZ....."No" is the answer because that is the way it is here.......see my previous post re UK.....

Yes they do have a choice. But it takes more guts than the recent incumbents of the Commissioners post have shown. But what do you expect of people who rise to the top through arse-kissing and sycophancy rather than ability.

[WINJA]

No, not at all, must be a thing in your area?
MAYBE..
MOTHERS OF THE POLICE OFFICERS IN MY AREA TELL THEIR FRIENDS THAT THEIR SONS ARE DRUG DEALERS TO SAVE THE FAMILY FROM EMBARESSMENT

[Lou Girardin]

I don't know about the ticket book thing Winja, but I'm amazed to be agreeing with most of your posts here.

[WINJA]

Words have failed me. Don't go soft on us.
ITS CAUSE IM SAVING IT ALL UP FOR WHEN I MEET YOU:motu: :ar15: :2guns: :2guns: :finger: :eyepoke: :bash: :kick:

[WINJA]

I don't know about the ticket book thing Winja, but I'm amazed to be agreeing with most of your posts here.OK , MAYBE YOU SHOULD SUCK MOMMAS COCK . DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT , HOPE YOU FEEL MORE AT HOME NOW

[Finn]

I don't know about the ticket book thing Winja, but I'm amazed to be agreeing with most of your posts here.

Yeah I think WINJA finally got laid last night.

[dawnrazor]

MAYBE..
MOTHERS OF THE POLICE OFFICERS IN MY AREA TELL THEIR FRIENDS THAT THEIR SONS ARE DRUG DEALERS TO SAVE THE FAMILY FROM EMBARESSMENT

"Don't tell my mum I'm a politician, she thinks I play piano in a whore house"

[Indoo]

In my books - Getting a ticket constitutes having a bad day.
I decided at an early stage to educate myself, so that my definatition of having a bad day, was not dealing with criminals, unreasonable drunks and aggresive life-threatening situations. I decided to leave that for some uneducated looser, just like you!:laugh:

The cop could have had a rant, but....... I don't much respect revenue collectors and I get my kicks out of exposing their lack of intelligence. Just like now!

Ohhhhh, this soft and gentle life I live!!!:wari:

I will try to make this gentle but you really don't seem that educated and seem to lack basic reading comprehension. Contary to what you think, there a high proportion of cops who have taken the bull by the horns and have done the whole uni thing where they learnt about things like idioms.

Winja, shagging your girlfriends grandmother is immoral, enforcing speed limits doesn't quite come into the same league.

[R1madness]

Hahahahahaha i just heard on the news it took the Cops 2 hours to respond to a burg that had 20 high power guns stolen. Now they are worried about them being in the hands of "bad people". Useless why not resopnd sooner. Oh yea i forgot there is no revenue in solving burgs.

[Ixion]

..

Winja, shagging your girlfriends grandmother is immoral, enforcing speed limits doesn't quite come into the same league.

Why? She is of age, and grandmothers can sometimes still be quite young - perhaps even sexy ? The (soon to be ex - ? ) girlfriend may of course have something to say about the matter

[DMNTD]

Hahahahahaha i just heard on the news it took the Cops 2 hours to respond to a burg that had 20 high power guns stolen.


Pathetic (http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3559066a11,00.html) is all I can say! Not blaming individual cops but bloody hell...priorities man!!!
The potential grief that could come from that burg is insane...but nah,better off pulling over people for not seatbelts and doing 6kms over:Police:

[scumdog]

Hahahahahaha i just heard on the news it took the Cops 2 hours to respond to a burg that had 20 high power guns stolen. Now they are worried about them being in the hands of "bad people". Useless why not resopnd sooner. Oh yea i forgot there is no revenue in solving burgs.


And arriving at the scene within 15 minutes would have helped the situation how??

Please elucidate, I'm waiting with baited breath:sherlock: :motu:

[R1madness]

Well maybe if it was like the a few years ago when the cops responded to alarms at certain places (like gunshops and banks) maybe they would have caught them. Maybe not as well but after 2 hours you got to be kidding. :motu: you too scumdog, you dont see me giving people rude jestures for making an observation

[Indoo]

Didn't you know fingerprints fade after 15 minutes?

And from what I read upon receiving the call they immediately assigned a car which was on its way there, which was diverted to a job where someone was breaking into cars. Ones historic, ones happening now, which one should Police attend first, hmm.

Your right as well Ixion, I should prolly change that to great grandma or something, although even then in the right light...

[DMNTD]

And arriving at the scene within 15 minutes would have helped the situation how??
:eek5: Well they would've been an hour and 45mins closer to them:slap:

[R1madness]

Didn't you know fingerprints fade after 15 minutes?

And from what I read upon receiving the call they immediately assigned a car which was on its way there, which was diverted to a job where someone was breaking into cars. Ones historic, ones happening now, which one should Police attend first, hmm.

Umm one is high powered guns being stolen to arm criminals and one is my stereo getting ripped out o my car again. Its not that big a choise. Get the GUNS back.

[scumdog]

:eek5: Well they would've been an hour and 45mins closer to them:slap:

And you know WHEN the burglary happened? and which way the burglars went? and what vehicle they were in? Good shit, join the Police and show the rest of us how to do it properly!:Police: :gob:

[scumdog]

Well maybe if it was like the a few years ago when the cops responded to alarms at certain places (like gunshops and banks) maybe they would have caught them. Maybe not as well but after 2 hours you got to be kidding. :motu: you too scumdog, you dont see me giving people rude jestures for making an observation

The gesture was one of humour - you know like hyuk-hyuk kind of chucle.

And were the Police called as a result of the alarm going off - or was it because the owner arrived and discovered the burg?

We get that many false alarms (cos EVERYBODY has an alarm these days) that to respond to ALL of them would mean forming yet another squad.

[Indoo]

Yep but the Guns would have been stolen in the wee hours, and the thieves disabled the alarm system so it didn't go off. When you don't have enough cops in cars available they have to prioritise, and send a car to what they consider to be the more pressing job. It sucks in short.

[judgeshock]

Sounds like he would have caught them, had them in court and guilty within the hour, just like CSI.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :slap:

[R1madness]

Nope its not my job to catch criminals i am too busy issuing speeding tickets and no wof and rego tickets...... heard it all before.
I know TV is not real. How about you?
When was the last time you did something nice for someone just because you could.... oh i forgot there is no revenue in that.

[TLDV8]

Pathetic (http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3559066a11,00.html)


:confused:

"The thieves went through the roof of neighbouring Agri Quality, and smashed through the wooden wall dividing the two businesses. "


"Once in the sports store they tried to smash through the concrete wall of the gun room, he said.

When that failed they destroyed the lock on the gun room security door to steal more than 20 shotguns, rifles and air guns valued at more than $20,000""

Sounds like they broke into a insecure firearm vault ?..The News last night showed a flimsy piece of wood leaning on a wall. :sherlock:

[Lou Girardin]

OK , MAYBE YOU SHOULD SUCK MOMMAS COCK . DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT , HOPE YOU FEEL MORE AT HOME NOW

That's more like the winja we know and love.

[Lou Girardin]

Hahahahahaha i just heard on the news it took the Cops 2 hours to respond to a burg that had 20 high power guns stolen. Now they are worried about them being in the hands of "bad people". Useless why not resopnd sooner. Oh yea i forgot there is no revenue in solving burgs.

They didn't even show up when I reported a .22 stolen.

[DMNTD]

And you know WHEN the burglary happened? and which way the burglars went? and what vehicle they were in? Good shit, join the Police and show the rest of us how to do it properly!:Police: :gob:
Fuck...great attitude officer knob cheese:Police:
Explains plenty. Pity though:no:

[scumdog]

Fuck...great attitude officer knob cheese:Police:
Explains plenty. Pity though:no:


Whatever.:calm:
I was just trying to point out the variables, - this was NOT a case of "shit, the alarm is going off at the xyb Gunshop, lets get round there right now and deal to the burglars"

It's more "shit, well we better get there and see if there is anything to go on.

15 minutes or two hours, the result would have been the same.

See, some of you SHOULD have a go and see how the system really works - or doesn't work as the case may be.:mellow:

It's not all CSI and SVU, the job is generally a shit-load more mundane than that - most of the time.

And notice how I managed to hold back from nasty personal retorts, I guess maturity helps there eh?

[Lou Girardin]

There's always an excuse for non-performance isn't there.
Here's a radical thought, cut back on issueing piss-ant tickets, disband the HP/IRD/STU, then there might be a few more cops to attend burglaries at gun shops. Because some of you cops may be facing these guns in the future.

[scumdog]

There's always an excuse for non-performance isn't there.
Here's a radical thought, cut back on issueing piss-ant tickets, disband the HP/IRD/STU, then there might be a few more cops to attend burglaries at gun shops. Because some of you cops may be facing these guns in the future.

Here's a radical thought - if the Gov't in its wisdom decided ticket writing was no longer needed? - they would just lay off that many cops to save money!

[Grahameeboy]

There's always an excuse for non-performance isn't there.
Here's a radical thought, cut back on issueing piss-ant tickets, disband the HP/IRD/STU, then there might be a few more cops to attend burglaries at gun shops. Because some of you cops may be facing these guns in the future.

Lou.........give it a break please....:Playnice:

[madboy]

Why? She is of age, and grandmothers can sometimes still be quite young - perhaps even sexy ? The (soon to be ex - ? ) girlfriend may of course have something to say about the matterI've given up on the pig bashing, so I'm up to researching...

It's quite a common activity according to my internet research, Ixion. But far from disapproving, it would appear the daughters/granddaughters seem to join in. But don't get me started on Winja's suggestion re: momma's gentalia... I researched that too. Again, quite common it would seem that momma has a whopper. I'll PM you the links if you like :grouphug:

[Grahameeboy]

I've given up on the pig bashing, so I'm up to researching...

It's quite a common activity according to my internet research, Ixion. But far from disapproving, it would appear the daughters/granddaughters seem to join in. But don't get me started on Winja's suggestion re: momma's gentalia... I researched that too. Again, quite common it would seem that momma has a whopper. I'll PM you the links if you like :grouphug:

Excellent stuff........:wavey:

[marty]

why not separate the traffic from criminal, let 1500 stu/hp staff loose on the roads - we can all remember how militant the old MOT was. then, if there is a gun shop burglary/home invasion/rape/shoplifter etc, and there is a dedicated traffic car nearby, but a gdb car 30 minutes away, we won't have to winge about the traffic unit not attending the job, as it won't be able to!

[Lou Girardin]

why not separate the traffic from criminal, let 1500 stu/hp staff loose on the roads - we can all remember how militant the old MOT was.

I'll vote for that. At least we didn't have to drive everywhere fixated on our speedos.
Of course a significant part of the population will still remain fixated on speedos.

[R1madness]

I wonder how many accidents are created by people continuiously looking down at their speedos. I caught my misses looking at my speedos one day while walking along the beach and she tripped over a bit of drift wood. HAHAHA

[Grahameeboy]

I wonder how many accidents are created by people continuiously looking down at their speedos. I caught my misses looking at my speedos one day while walking along the beach and she tripped over a bit of drift wood. HAHAHA

If you were wearing speedo's ewe sure it was the drift wood she tripped over.....ho ho ho:beer:

[R1madness]

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: i love it.... but yea unfortunately it was the drift wood :thud:

[The Stranger]

It will be that one time someone runs out in front of you and you just miss them when your going 60k an hour and you think shit im glad i wasnt doing 65!


Ha!
The myth exposed.

[WINJA]

Yeah I think WINJA finally got laid last night.
DID YOU WONDER WHY YOUR MUM WAS WALKING FUNNY LAST NIGHT?

[Finn]

DID YOU WONDER WHY YOUR MUM WAS WALKING FUNNY LAST NIGHT?

That's normal. After all she is a hooker.

[The_Dover]

Was that the old bird we tag teamed WINJA?

[Patrick]

Hahahahahaha i just heard on the news it took the Cops 2 hours to respond to a burg that had 20 high power guns stolen. Now they are worried about them being in the hands of "bad people". Useless why not resopnd sooner. Oh yea i forgot there is no revenue in solving burgs.

Traffic deal with traffic, only a small minority too, coz they have to... GDB deal with everything else...rescuing nanas cat from the tree to death and destruction, coz they have to... Bloody oath that is a worry, wonder what the excuse was for delays..responding to gang warfare shootouts perhaps? Who knows...

[Dafe]

oh pleeeeeze... yup all cops aren't educated, all politicians are fkwts and Dorkland is gonna with the Super14 :rolleyes:


I'll gladly take you up on that. 20 dollars says Hurricanes finish above Auckland on the table. You keen?

[Rashika]

I'll gladly take you up on that. 20 dollars says Hurricanes finish above Auckland on the table. You keen?
nah... absolutely no interest in that AT ALL!. now that I'm a happily separated woman, I dont actually HAVE to sit in on a friday & saturday night & sunday arvo and watch rugby... uuuuugggghhhhh... one of my most unfavourite things to do.
Much rather be doing what I like, and funnily enough... thats riding my bike :2thumbsup


not having seen any rugby for 6 months now, I'd say you may well be right tho...of course Crusaders would be above both anyway :wavey:

[vtec]

It will be that one time someone runs out in front of you and you just miss them when your going 60k an hour and you think shit im glad i wasnt doing 65!

Someone needs to do something about the thousands of suicidal pedestrians out there... maybe if we lowered the speed limit to 20, then there would be minimal pedestrian deaths... But that would defeat the purpose of having separate roads and footpaths.

If you think that the suicidal pedestrian theory is reason for lame speed limits, then maybe something should be done about pedestrian education, so we can regain the roads.

[spudchucka]

Another quality thread. Well worth the read, very informative and full of well reasoned arguements. I feel so much more enlightened through having read it.:puke:

[Gixxer 4 ever]

Another quality thread. Well worth the read, very informative and full of well reasoned arguements. I feel so much more enlightened through having read it.:puke:
I was just thinking that myself. A variety of subjects and tangents seem to have been visited here. .:kick: :killingme :killingme

[Indoo]

Not to mention an introduction to idioms 101 with your tutor Dafe.

[scumdog]

And lets not forget that vtec has still to explain to us dumber ones how an immediate response by police to the firearms burg would have had a better result than the two hour time it actually took to arrive at the scene. (I suppose it would have stopped the shop owner from running to the ever accurate media?)

Still, this is the one entertainment that is cheap, bring on more!:yeah: :corn: :corn: :corn:

[soundbeltfarm]

Bullocks. I was at that pursuit in Pakaranga Road, it was highly stressful and the car was making rapid changes of direction...you werent there, i doubt you have ever been involved in a pursuit let alone one that does not involve traffic matters; the scroate was wanted on criminal matters and was going to do anythign to get away. That is a completly different type of pursiut than someone wanting to merely get away on a traffic incident in terms of the offenders behavious and the risks he will take with public lives and the lives of police staff.

It is a stressful fine line in a pursuit and having been involved in quite a few the situation can change any second and a safe distance is no longer safe, you really dont know what its like till your actually involved in it.

And from working on ONE homicide and reaslising it takes about 30 - 40 staff who are at least partially trained in CIB methods to start a homicide investigation you would understand how under resourced General Duties and CIB is.

Ill admit that medium offences like car thefts, burglaries and general dishonesty offences are not being attended to properly as there is just not the staffing levels currently to proerply attend, investigate and lay charges.

But street disorder and domestics are serviced to a very high standard in new zealand. We have the highest percentage of solving serious crime such as rape, homicide, GBH etc out of us the UK and Austrailia.

I can tell you that was NO exaggeration on bikey cops behalf as i was there.

:Pokey:


3 questions for you,

did you catch the guy?

and if all you cops that think you're understaffed have you brought it to attention higher up and if you have what have you been told?

in my experiance in the 2 times ive needed the cops they were quick to get here and were good blokes the 2 times i didnt need the cops but they needed me, one was a total loser and didn't know the first thing about being a country cop and eventually left town (lasted about 5 monthes i think) and the other cop was an old friend luckily.

[Indoo]

The 'higher' ups know too well and thats what they continually petition, the short staffing is ridiculous, most General duties staff at least in the Auckland area are doing at least an hours unpaid overtime a day. But hey the labour government has the solution in introducing 250 more community cops so that old Aunt lucys dispute with her neighbour about the trees can be resolved that much quicker!

At the end of the day though as in any organisation nowadays you have to be a political animal to rise to the top if you want the true story listen to what the Police association says, its often markedly different.

[vtec]

And lets not forget that vtec has still to explain to us dumber ones how an immediate response by police to the firearms burg would have had a better result than the two hour time it actually took to arrive at the scene. (I suppose it would have stopped the shop owner from running to the ever accurate media?)

Still, this is the one entertainment that is cheap, bring on more!:yeah: :corn: :corn: :corn:

Dude, I stayed out of that argument. But I still can't believe you need someone to explain it to you. I'll do my best cause I understood what they were saying when that argument was going on. Didn't want to get into it, but here goes.

When the crims (bad guys) steal firearms, this means they are now armed and quite possibly dangerous. Now if you arrive at the scene 15 mins after the alarm is tripped, chances are they won't have gotten very far. If you wait for 2 hours, they could have emptied the whole shop and now be in possession of quite an arsenal, not to mention be long gone and already have committed a few armed robberies on their leisurely journey home, remember you gave them 2 hours. I would expect even your average frontline copper to understand the difference between 15 minutes and 2 hours.

[Indoo]

I think you missing the fact that it was a historic burg, it wasn't happening when the guy called it in it was already well over and had prolly been commited at least 4-5 hours before in the dead of night.

If the Police turn up 6 hours after the crime had happened or 8 hours it doesn't really make a hell of alot of difference.

What your talking about is an entirely different scenario in which I would agree with you, but thats not the case here and not even close to it.

[Indoo]

I think part of the problem (omg im speaking against the regime now, wru Lou!) is that traffic cops (and general duties even) are made to get a certain amount of tickets an hour, for a particular type of traffic policing ie speed/seatbelts etc to maintain a contact rate which warnings aren't counted for.

Police shouldn't be treated like a private corporation in which targets need to be met and discretion ignored as a result. It leads to a result where protecting the public is no longer the primary aim but achieving performance targets is. A ticket for doing 70 in an industrial area where there is no real risk to safety is given the same merit and performance 'result' as a cop ticketing somebody for doing 70 past a school where that speed is clearly unsafe. At the moment theres no distinction between the two.

[vtec]

Well that was the impression that I got from reading what people had discussed in this thread about the situation. However I didn't know much about it, which is why I had neglected to post an opinion initially before being called upon by scumdog to do so. Still with firearms being looted, I still think its the sooner the better. You can do a lot of rampaging with an extra 2 hours.

Also had it "prolly" been committed 4-6 hours before hand, or had it 'actually' been committed 4-6hours before hand?

[Da Bird]

3 questions for you,

did you catch the guy?

and if all you cops that think you're understaffed have you brought it to attention higher up and if you have what have you been told?

in my experiance in the 2 times ive needed the cops they were quick to get here and were good blokes the 2 times i didnt need the cops but they needed me, one was a total loser and didn't know the first thing about being a country cop and eventually left town (lasted about 5 monthes i think) and the other cop was an old friend luckily.

Yes the driver and the passenger were arrested.

The "higher ups" know all right, however you can only distribute the staff the government allocates you. In my opinion, the extra 1000 cops over 3 years will just be to catch up with what we actually need now. In 3 years time, we will probably need another 1000. In South Auckland, a high percentage of the time there are just no cars available for even priority 1 jobs. That includes traffic cars because half the time, the traffic cars are diverted to general duties jobs - a lot of people don't seem to realise that and the perception that traffic cars dont deal with other stuff is just plain wrong.

What on earth was your third question????:blank:

BC

[Dafe]

I think you missing the fact that it was a historic burg, it wasn't happening when the guy called it in it was already well over and had prolly been commited at least 4-5 hours before in the dead of night.

If the Police turn up 6 hours after the crime had happened or 8 hours it doesn't really make a hell of alot of difference.

What your talking about is an entirely different scenario in which I would agree with you, but thats not the case here and not even close to it.

Found a page out of the Idiom 101 guide.........

What insurance company would insure this guy if he did not have a monitored security alarm system?
The majority of shops in Wellington have alarm response companies that respond within seven minutes.
Many shops with items such as jewellery and firearms also run Smoke Cloak systems and have locked up goods designed to take a decent 10 minutes to access.
In my opinion, it sounds like the owner of this firearms shop had insufficient secuirty and should be nailed by his insurance company.
The owner of the shop has a responsibility to ensure that these weapons are not accessible during a break in.
Did he even have CCTV? This alone would have been a heavy deterrent. I think the owner may be about to find out how important the fine lines are in an insurance policy.

[Lou Girardin]

And lets not forget that vtec has still to explain to us dumber ones how an immediate response by police to the firearms burg would have had a better result than the two hour time it actually took to arrive at the scene.

Having not heard any of the details I'll have to guess;
The owner may have caught them on the premises.
He may have got car details and rego. It'd be easier to find them with minutes head start rather than hours.
BTW did they get the guy breaking into cars? I'd sure hope so seeing it was a higher priority job.

[R1madness]

hehehe a nice bit o thread hijacking. hehehehe

[Lou Girardin]

I think part of the problem (omg im speaking against the regime now, wru Lou!) is that traffic cops (and general duties even) are made to get a certain amount of tickets an hour, for a particular type of traffic policing ie speed/seatbelts etc to maintain a contact rate which warnings aren't counted for.

Police shouldn't be treated like a private corporation in which targets need to be met and discretion ignored as a result. It leads to a result where protecting the public is no longer the primary aim but achieving performance targets is. A ticket for doing 70 in an industrial area where there is no real risk to safety is given the same merit and performance 'result' as a cop ticketing somebody for doing 70 past a school where that speed is clearly unsafe. At the moment theres no distinction between the two.

Excellent Indoo. Now, if all you guys try this, and the Association does it publicly and often, you may see some changes. Now's the time, when Labour is politically vulnerable. Go get 'em.
In the meantime, I hear that there's a new shipment of low mileage import cops on order.

[The_Dover]

You got to remember that WINJA lives in the Waikato and drug dealing is seen as a respectable career option in that neck of the woods.

[scumdog]

Well that was the impression that I got from reading what people had discussed in this thread about the situation. However I didn't know much about it, which is why I had neglected to post an opinion initially before being called upon by scumdog to do so. Still with firearms being looted, I still think its the sooner the better. You can do a lot of rampaging with an extra 2 hours.

Also had it "prolly" been committed 4-6 hours before hand, or had it 'actually' been committed 4-6hours before hand?

The "newspaper" said (if you can believe them) quoted re the firearms burg "the owner reported the burglary when he discovered it when he arrived at work at just before 8am"
So I would have to GUESS that the burglars would be well gone by then.

[soundbeltfarm]

[QUOTE=soundbeltfarm]3 questions for you,

ist question did you catch the guy?

2nd question and if all you cops that think you're understaffed have you brought it to attention higher up

3rd question. and if you have what have you been told? (quote)

[judgeshock]

As always there is two sides to every story. Unfortunately most people tend to get on their high horse and believe everything the media says.

There has been some classic examples of the media only reporting their propaganda and yet everytime they say something we still believe it like a flock of sheep.

Maybe people should start threads abusing the media. Nothing is ever black and white. The sooner people wake up and realise this then we can challenge the media to report correct information.:spudwhat:

[roogazza]

As always there is two sides to every story. Unfortunately most people tend to get on their high horse and believe everything the media says.

There has been some classic examples of the media only reporting their propaganda and yet everytime they say something we still believe it like a flock of sheep.

Maybe people should start threads abusing the media. Nothing is ever black and white. The sooner people wake up and realise this then we can challenge the media to report correct information.:spudwhat:


I can remember being in the Watchhouse in the early seventies and the Evening post used to ring on nightshift looking for stories ! My answer was " nah , nothing happening all quiet " ! when in fact were were flat out ! lately I have stopped watching the news and when i do read a paper it's usually for the crosswords ! Don't encourage the bastards ! just wait for
Y-tangy day and see what I mean . G.

[Finn]

[QUOTE=soundbeltfarm]

Michael Cullen stated there is no shortage of front line police and when porngate came out he implied that we were all watching porn on our computers instead of attending jobs and thats why we were claiming we were short staffed.

I have to ask him what computers, we have one between three if were lucky..

Come the revolution, Michael Cullen is #2 on my list. You know who #1 is. Cullen is an arrogant prick and like his boss, is completely incompetant. Run a check on him for me will yah. I'm sure you'll find he does nasty things to small animals.

[WINJA]

lol bullocks
YOUR SHOWING YOUR AGE , THATS A PT FROM AN OLD COMEDY ACT

[WINJA]

That car chase we had was a home invasion of sorts.

They are extremely dangerous and the problem is now days they will drive like fuck wits even when not activley being purused.

The red honda me and bikey cop were after was doing 100k on the wrong side of the road on takapuna before a cop car was even close to it.

We know this as eagle was able to view it from the harbour.

It is important to get them off the road.
HOME INVASIONS ARENT A PRIORITY , IVE SEEN THE EVIDENCE OF THE COPS TURNING UP AND LEAVING AND DID NOTHING . NO K9, NO CHOPPER , JUST A WELL HES PROLLY GONE YOULL BE RIGHT SWEETIE

[Patrick]

Thatbloody chopper...gets to all the donut specials first...

[scumdog]

Has everybody now got enough knowledge to see where I was coming from when I posted on post #174 that arriving 15 minutes after being called would not have affected the outcome?

(vtec?)

[Grahameeboy]

Has everybody now got enough knowledge to see where I was coming from when I posted on post #174 that arriving 15 minutes after being called would not have affected the outcome?

(vtec?)

I have.............burglars are not gonna hang around eh and wait for owner to call Police