NZ Police Reputation

[Deano]

It seems that the reports showing cops in a bad light just keep coming in.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/dominionpost/0,2106,3560176a6030,00.html

[HDTboy]

I don't see how that affects the Police as a group

[judgeshock]

Again it relates to individuals :Oops:

[Colapop]

Mustn't be anything happening in politics then.... The f*cking irresponsible parts of media organisations have a lot to answer for. Sensationalist reporting isn't actually news. How newsworthy was it to have camera's at the mudflats where the father got drowned the other night? "But the public have a right to know..." or hopefully see someone die. The Police always seem to wear it when there's not a lot else happening.

[T.I.E]

Again it relates to individuals :Oops:

but isn't that what the police are or any organisation. a group of individuals?

when do we call them police and when do we cann then individuals?

[madboy]

Dumb cop. I bet he'll get a reaming from the bosses for that one. But it's all okay, because now the dog is living somewhere else so it won't attack that same animal again. It'll be a different animal next time, or maybe someone else's small kid.

Once I can accept. I'm a dog owner and I understand they have a mind of their own. In saying that, I'd be down at the vet feeling really bloody guilty with my cheque book out before the dog was even out of surgery. But twice? I'd have my own dog put down for that. Family pet or not.

[T.I.E]

Mustn't be anything happening in politics then.... The f*cking irresponsible parts of media organisations have a lot to answer for. Sensationalist reporting isn't actually news. How newsworthy was it to have camera's at the mudflats where the father got drowned the other night? "But the public have a right to know..." or hopefully see someone die. The Police always seem to wear it when there's not a lot else happening.

you are right.
although i wish police were paid more, and also then we could ask them to take their job seriously. on and off duty. but they do need to be paid more.

[Deano]

I don't see how that affects the Police as a group

I thought the Police were a group of individuals that we expect to uphold the laws of the land, not blatantly break them and then try to get away with it.

This isn't just a speeding ticket or anything - someone's pet was mauled. It could have been a kid.

If he is prepared to cover up a crime for his own benefit, would he do the same for a mate, or for a bribe ?

[judgeshock]

quote:"When Mrs Growcott contacted Kapiti Coast District Council's animal control division to complain about the first attack she was told she was partly responsible because her dog was unsupervised in a public place."


There are quite alot of dog attacks around the place, walk your dog anywhere and the first thing that happens is another dog will come and sniff around it. We live with animals that are territorial and have been breed for all sorts of reasons.

The officer has payed for the vet bill and done his best to remove the dog,i'm sure if it's deemed neccesary then that dog will be put down.

How do we not know that the officer hasn't removed the dog away from the upset kids to be put down? Maybe he is trying to protect his obviously upset kids.

There is a few variables to this and again we can only summise based on a one sided interview. Not everyone runs to the media when a problem like this happens.

I certainly would not want to see a vicious dog left alive. It's just a shame about the manner of reporting

[Colapop]

Same here JudgeS. I'm not condoning the dog attackers owners actions (too many esses?) The point is that it wouldn't have made it to the front page if the owner wasn't a police officer. But because he is a cop it's a case of "The f*cking police are all bastards, ytring to rip off us poor mere mortals.... blah blah blah" I've owned dogs for a number years up til recently and never ever had one attack another (these have been German Shephards, a Doberman, a Cavalier Spaniel and a Mental Cat). The woman who's dog was attacked should have had her dog impounded for letting it roam. I doubt that "the kitchen was covered in blood and flesh". A $300 vets bill doesn't cover much and there was flesh splattered around the kitchen then her precious Labradour would have had trouble surviving the trip to the vet. As I sadi not condoning the cops actions with regard to hiding his dog, but the story just wouldn't have been as good without a dirty cop in it would it?

[yungatart]

Well, now we know! All scout leaders are paedophiles, all negros are well hung,all bikers are homicidal rapists and all cops own nasty vicious dogs. I feel so enlightened now.

[DMNTD]

As long as the owner of the offending dog is treated the same,not better than, the mere mortals like us I have no problem.
Not into double standards for race,creed or employment.
Other than that I don't see what it has to do with the NZ Police...all in all not a bad gang as far as gangs go :niceone:

[Fatjim]

Well, now we know! All scout leaders are paedophiles, all negros are well hung,all bikers are homicidal rapists and all cops own nasty vicious dogs. I feel so enlightened now.

Are these all ex boyfriends?

[The_Dover]

Lucky it didn't attack WINJA's dog. It woulda been the pig dog in the vets then. Vicious little rat that thing is.

[MSTRS]

.... all negros are well hung....
Witchoo talkin' bout Willis??
We are?

[Pixie]

The animal control officer,Mr Wolff,:rofl:
A classic case of nominative determinism

[Pixie]

Mustn't be anything happening in politics then.... The f*cking irresponsible parts of media organisations have a lot to answer for. Sensationalist reporting isn't actually news. How newsworthy was it to have camera's at the mudflats where the father got drowned the other night? "But the public have a right to know..." or hopefully see someone die. The Police always seem to wear it when there's not a lot else happening.
if the plebs were not addicted to the news,the crews would not be there.

[Pixie]

you are right.
although i wish police were paid more, and also then we could ask them to take their job seriously. on and off duty. but they do need to be paid more.
bollocks.
Since when did low pay absolve a worker from taking a job seriously?
Would you accept salmonella because a KFC worker is paid minimum wage?

[The_Dover]

Would you accept salmonella because a KFC worker is paid minimum wage?

I didn't realise I had a choice?

[Lou Girardin]

bollocks.
Would you accept salmonella because a KFC worker is paid minimum wage?

Isn't that one of the secret spices?
Shitty spice?

[sedge]

The article said she was partly to blame for the first attack... But equally so was the other owner, who obviously learnt nothing from this and allowed his dog to roam again.

The second attack was in her own kitchen. If a neighbours dog came in to my kitchen and attacked my pet I would put it down on the spot. My kid is here too and smaller than the dog.

Don't get me wrong, I love dogs, but stray, untrained and vicious dogs show a total lack of responsibility on the owners part.

Training is cheap and effective, so is properly fencing your property. People that aren't prepared to put in the effort to train and restrain them don't deserve them.

Sedge.

[MSTRS]

Well said. A voice in the wilderness CAN have something sensible to say.

[bladez]

only got one word for this OTAKI whats new :whistle:

[kro]

Yawn !!!!, another cop bashing thread, gee, thats not been done before, lets all jump on the bandwagon shall we?.

Idiot.

[WINJA]

that pig should be fired , after all hes never off duty and his actions should be honest at all times

[Dafe]

Why do people continue to own such aggresive animals?

I remember seeing a Pitbull with a choke lock on an elderly ladies Labrador. The Labrador would have been toast if this Island fella with his little floor mop hadn't interveened.

The Pitbulls owner paniced and was nothing short of useless.

The Labrador dropped to it's knees and the Pitbull started ripping it's head from left to right trying to rip off the Labradors head.

This Island fella grabbed the Pitbull around the throat and dropped the biggest mother fucker punch square onto the pitbulls head.
The pitbull let go straight away, then started wobbling sideways, then blood started coming out of its eye socket. Dunno what happened to it as the owner rushed it away.

But lucky for the Labrador and elderly lady that on this occasion the aggressor got it's own medicine back - Island style!

[sedge]

Yawn !!!!, another cop bashing thread, gee, thats not been done before, lets all jump on the bandwagon shall we?.

Idiot.

The cop thing was incidental to the real issue of animal ownership responsibilities... If it has anything at all to really do with cops it is that they are just people like the rest of us. Being a policeman/woman for a living does not make you immune from human failings, people who expect the police to be inhuman would get a very nasty suprise.

Humanity brings compassion and understanding, don't underestimate these qualities.

I agree that there are way too many cop threads at the moment, I've done it myself.

Sedge.

[kro]

Being a policeman/woman for a living does not make you immune from human failings

Undeniably true, but if I forget to order a Ductile Iron Tee junction, and a couple of sluice valves for a major water reticulation customer at work, does my name end up in the papers?......no, but the poor buggers of cops are always, and I repeat always singled out for their misgivings. The cop is allowed some fuck up's, otherwise the police force would be it's own religion, as we could all worship the cops as "perfect", because that seems to be the expectation.

Cops who intentionally break the law, or exploit it, are a diff story.

[sedge]

Undeniably true, but if I forget to order a Ductile Iron Tee junction, and a couple of sluice valves for a major water reticulation customer at work, does my name end up in the papers?......no, but the poor buggers of cops are always, and I repeat always singled out for their misgivings. The cop is allowed some fuck up's, otherwise the police force would be it's own religion, as we could all worship the cops as "perfect", because that seems to be the expectation.

Cops who intentionally break the law, or exploit it, are a diff story.

Again, I don't think this is a cop issue at all. The media is taking actions in the context it wants to 'create' the story.

The media implied the cop had an honesty issue by spiriting the dog away.

However, I don't think he did, he has kids who love their pet, he made the correct choice and returned the dog to the breeder, much better than the other option of telling them that their dog was going to the vet to be put down.

It doesn't mean that the dog wont be put down, but it does mean he can tell his kids that their dog is back with it's mother, it's up to the breeder to deal with the consequences of any destruction order.

He only made the mistake of not dealing with the issue properly the first time the dog attacked, that's all. If he'd muzzled, trained and fenced the dog properly there would have been no issue in the first place, that is where the responsibility lies.

Whatever way you look at it being in the Police is a public job, it's understood and part of the job description and training. The media are the ones at fault for being crappy, that however, is in their job description and training.

Normal people like and respect the police, seriously, they do. The people who have issues are the ones that are told what to think by the media.

Sedge.

[R1madness]

Ok i will stop herrassing them if they stop herrassing me. (yes i know i cant spell for shit but i ride like a muther fu*ker)