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Indiana_Jones
27th March 2004, 21:26
What's the top speed of your bike?
Also Does anyone know the top speed of a Suzuki GSX400 ????

-Indy

Posh Tourer :P
27th March 2004, 21:35
I think 170-180....... 4250rpm at 110, 5500ish at 150, redline 7000rpm

6Chris6
27th March 2004, 21:41
What's the top speed of your bike?
Also Does anyone know the top speed of a Suzuki GSX400 ????

-Indy
Haven't been able to get mine past 170km but it's got low compression on 3 & 4 aswell as numerous other faults

Jackrat
27th March 2004, 21:50
Don't know what the top speed of my bike is.
I havn't rung any bike right out for years,I do know that my XS is the slowest
bike Iv'e owned for about fifteen years but it's still lot's of fun.

DEATH_INC.
27th March 2004, 21:55
I've seen 270kph on the gixx,The turbo's been off the end of it's 260k speedo and my old ZX12 saw 330+ on the road on a few occasions..(340kph on the rpm limiter doing a burnout at the coldkiwi last year.....)

6Chris6
27th March 2004, 21:58
Don't know what the top speed of my bike is.
I havn't rung any bike right out for years,I do know that my XS is the slowest
bike Iv'e owned for about fifteen years but it's still lot's of fun.
Thats all that matters eh :Punk:

matthewt
27th March 2004, 22:05
On my old MV F4 I did 250 which was actually timed between lights and not the 285 the speedo said. That was top speed given the gearing I had at the time.

The Brutale is limited to 250kph which is stated in the MV material and we spotted it on a recent dyno run (ie, at 11,000rpm the power just leved right off rather than built to the 13,000rpm redline).

Indiana_Jones
27th March 2004, 22:10
Don't know what the top speed of my bike is.
I havn't rung any bike right out for years,I do know that my XS is the slowest
bike Iv'e owned for about fifteen years but it's still lot's of fun.

But those bikes arn't really about speed are they?

-Indy

riffer
27th March 2004, 22:18
A bit hard to work out on the speedo on my bike as its a 180km/h speedo, but at 100kmh its doing 4250 rpm. I've seen 105000 in top gear, which is an indicated 247 km/h.

I'd say the speedo could be inaccurate up to 7% , which is indicating up to 17km/h too fast.

So probably around 230-235km/h I reckon, on a real good day, head behind the fairing.

Marmoot
27th March 2004, 22:22
The CBR250R I got was cut at 170kph.
The Blade got up to 275 on Puke backstraight before running out of room (bad Castrol exit, you see? I'm not a track dude). It can do well a bit more than that, though.
My Supra got a cutter at 190kph (sucks......)
I know GSXR and R1 can do about 300kph. My mate got his up to 295.

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dangerous
27th March 2004, 22:47
82 CX500turbo = 210kph (not bad for a 22yr old 500 twin aye)
97 VFR 750 = 280kph 'max'
97 MG 1100i sport = 240kph 'max' (but got there the fastest)
03 VTR 1000f3 = 250kph so far but should pull in 270-280kph

death inc: dosent the manafacture have a limit of 300kph and 318 being the max on a ZX12? the Bussa having less hp but more speed

Deano
28th March 2004, 00:03
82 CX500turbo = 230kph '240 possible' (not bad for a 22yr old 500 twin aye)
97 VFR 750 = 280kph 'max'
97 MG 1100i sport = 240kph 'max' (but got there the fastest)
03 VTR 1000f3 = 250kph so far but should pull in 270-280kph

death inc: dosent the manafacture have a limit of 300kph and 318 being the max on a ZX12? the Bussa having less hp but more speed

Is the VTR standard ?

All the write ups i've read on SP-1's is 165mph top speed = 272kph

Ive seen 263kph on mine and it wasn't pulling much more so 272 is probably about right for the SP's, dunno about f3 ?

James Deuce
28th March 2004, 00:17
1 (bang) 9 (bang) 0 (bang)

Freaking limiters. :)

marty
28th March 2004, 07:41
I think 170-180....... 4250rpm at 110, 5500ish at 150, redline 7000rpm


what sort of gsx400 red lines at 7000? even a harley revs higher than that.

try 7000 @ 110km/h, redline 14000 - mine would get about 12000 in 6th gear with enough room.

ask wkid - he'll know

James Deuce
28th March 2004, 07:49
what sort of gsx400 red lines at 7000? even a harley revs higher than that.

try 7000 @ 110km/h, redline 14000 - mine would get about 12000 in 6th gear with enough room.

ask wkid - he'll know

I think its the parallel twin version.

DEATH_INC.
28th March 2004, 07:54
death inc: dosent the manafacture have a limit of 300kph and 318 being the max on a ZX12? the Bussa having less hp but more speed
No,mine was a 2000 model-no restrictor :apint:
The fuggin scary thing is at 330(actually about 315 I believe) it was still accelerating :eek5:
Let's not start the busa vs 12 thing,they were within a couple of mph of each other and the only time I ever raced one head to head was at the drags,though I did run more mph than he did...... :Pokey:

jrandom
28th March 2004, 07:55
151 indicated. Booooo-yah. I actually have difficulty getting into a crouch - my helmet chinbar bumps into the instrument panel on the FXR...

By the way, any of you guys ever want to log a bike run with GPS to prove your steed's cojones beyond a shadow of doubt, lemme know and I'll lend you what you need.

DEATH_INC.
28th March 2004, 08:01
I think its the parallel twin version.
Or maybe the opposed twin version....

k14
28th March 2004, 09:12
I've had my CBR up to 170 twice. Definately can go faster though, was only up to 15000rpm in top, and it redlines at 19000rpm. I think it has a 180kph limiter, but i reckon it would be able to do 200 at a stretch.

Two Smoker
28th March 2004, 09:15
Ive had my RG150 at 185 on the speedo at 12500rpm in 6th gear (that's peak power), the actual speed was more around 178-180kmh but still... thats fucking good for a 150 hehehe, its seen 175 on the back and front straight of puke, once i get my exit a bit better from castrol i will see 180+

Indiana_Jones
28th March 2004, 10:38
151 indicated. Booooo-yah. I actually have difficulty getting into a crouch - my helmet chinbar bumps into the instrument panel on the FXR...

You got the LCD panel or normal gauges?
Also, 151......Boo-yah :D

-Indy

Motu
28th March 2004, 11:34
I couldn't care less how fast any of the bikes I've owned can go,even the ones that could go fast.The XLV750 is suposed to do 180 - had it up to 160 yesterday,but that's a rare thing.I've had the XS1 on the magic ton - you guys wanna know fast...try that !! Have no idea about the XT400 - 120 on a twisty gravel road is like 300kph on a race track.

Indiana_Jones
28th March 2004, 12:05
120 on a gravel twisty is good, but then again you can't compare a trails bike to a road one, it's like comparing a boat to a plane :D

-Indy

Two Smoker
28th March 2004, 12:49
Milky just wanted me to tell you guys his CB125T does 110kmh hehehe, 120kmh with a tail wind lol:laugh:

But then there is me CT110......... 92kmh LOL and it takes me about 15 seconds to get to 60kmh LMAO:laugh: ....... What a beast, if you want a scary ride, get on one of them in the wind at 80+kmh with 30kgs of mail :crazy: .....

Jackrat
28th March 2004, 13:06
But those bikes arn't really about speed are they?

-Indy

Yeah your right there,But I think all bikes are about speed,just in different ways is all.It's a bit like what Motu says,Do 160km on an XS1 Yamaha and you know you were going fast,Yet the same thing on a new sports bike is nothing.It's all in the seat of ya' pants aye.I really wouldn't like to do 160 on my bike,the bike can do it but I don't want to be on it at the time. :sweatdrop :laugh:

merv
28th March 2004, 13:16
Mine about 245 is what I have seen, and if you could redline it about 255 and if you could get to the rev limiter about 265. You need to alter a VFR to get 280 like Dangerous is talking or a very long straight down hill with taller gearing.

georgedubyabush
28th March 2004, 14:16
180 normally on the zxr250. 190 once slipstreaming a TLR.
100 on the XL185
The z650 is apparantly good for 180, but like jackrat, bugger that.

DEATH_INC.
28th March 2004, 14:20
120 on a twisty gravel road is like 300kph on a race track.
I've had over 200kph on the ZX12 on a gravel road,does that count :Pokey: ....wasn't very twisty though :whistle: ....

Posh Tourer :P
28th March 2004, 15:21
Milky just wanted me to tell you guys his CB125T does 110kmh hehehe, 120kmh with a tail wind lol:laugh:

Rubbish..... Ive had it to at least 125, prob 130 down wellesly st off-ramp....
...

I'd agree with Jackrat in the case of my bike though, who cares how fast my beemer can go, it wont like getting there.... It was complaining enough hitting 150 chasing a beemer cage back from Piha

Its all about horses for courses... the tourers/cruisers/dirtbikes arent made for speed, whereas sportbikes are.... measure them all by different rulers... The beemer can do here to wellington non-stop without too much fatigue, but not a lot of speed, a dirtbike will slide it round very fast on gravel but would be less comfy riding to wellington, etc etc

Hence I'm quite happy to explore the top speed of the CB125, but not the Beemer (not that the CB125 is a sportbike, but....)

Motu
28th March 2004, 16:15
Well,I'll say that dirt bikes are made for speed,just depends where your riding.

marty
28th March 2004, 20:00
the rs is good for 215 in standard trim - as it is now. gets there reasonably quick, just runs out of breath. it pull s hard to 210, then just gasps. no rev limiter either. is a s solid as a rock though at that speed. i'd rather do 200 on the rs than on my mates 92 fzr1000 though - shit that takes some stoppin' that thing does..... with race pipes and re-jetting/airbox mods apparantly the rs will do 235/240. i reckon it's easier to buy a bigger bike. it's still friggin quick in the windies :)

dangerous
28th March 2004, 21:01
Is the VTR standard ?

All the write ups i've read on SP-1's is 165mph top speed = 272kph

Ive seen 263kph on mine and it wasn't pulling much more so 272 is probably about right for the SP's, dunno about f3 ?

Sorry I should explain my figgers,
I've had 250 down the straight at Ruapuna theres not enough room left to get any more out of it. So I posted a thread on the UK VTR forum and asked what they get out of there bikes and the responce was up to 280kph and 2 replys were 270kph.
I though that it was a bit high for a twin but there you go.

I have also edited the speed (previous post) I got out of my CX turbo as I slightly over rated it.

dangerous
28th March 2004, 21:17
Mine about 245 is what I have seen, and if you could redline it about 255 and if you could get to the rev limiter about 265. You need to alter a VFR to get 280 like Dangerous is talking or a very long straight down hill with taller gearing.

Yeh my VFR was the very last of the 750's (looked the same as Mervs) It had a dyno kit in it and a fancy pipe.
Often when a bike is doing full tit the speedo's arnt always that correct but I did see 270kph 1000 of the red line and another time 280 when I about touched it.
I never hit a rev limiter but then I never put the neadle into the red I think that the gearing was std and it was a level rd that was long enough out back of Brisbane (awesome rd's out that way)

Attached below is the VFR (Very Fast Roadbike)

wkid_one
28th March 2004, 21:29
Max speed for the VTR was about 270kph....did this out the back of Kaukap'.

Max indicated speed I had done on the R1 was 299 (speedo reads no higher). Had it sitting there for a while (both road and track)....no idea what speed it was doing....with the scenery rushing to meet me - the concept of continuing to look at my speedo and tacho somehow skipped my mind.

Fastest I have gone in a cage is 300kph+ in a Porsche on the Autobahn - wicked!

Fastest in NZ is 260 in a WRX on the motorway coming in to town.

Two Smoker
28th March 2004, 21:52
So wkid_one ........ whats your new bike????? common we are dying to know, please tell us:rockon:

wkid_one
28th March 2004, 21:53
What bike??????

Two Smoker
28th March 2004, 21:55
What bike??????
Im sure there was a rumor on here that you had a bike and was riding it around... but then you did leave it pretty broad with your quote "i finally have something in the garage...."

wkid_one
28th March 2004, 22:05
Im sure there was a rumor on here that you had a bike and was riding it around... but then you did leave it pretty broad with your quote "i finally have something in the garage...."

And if I did have one, I wouldn't be riding it on the road anyway....it would be for track use only

speedpro
28th March 2004, 22:13
My bucket is good for 160K+ and I've been clocked at 312K by the Police at Pukekohe. My mate just did 6.8s at 202mph at Meremere(in a car). I was parked at the finish line when he went past - hoooooweeeee, what a blast. :shit: :gob:

brockhaus
28th March 2004, 23:20
Hi there!
I've done 180kph with the 4th gear (and I have a fifth :ride: that was easy to do and with a big backpack fixed on the motorcycle) but don't try that again -- don't want to be cought by a speedcop...
Looking forward to try that on a track.....
cya, Marcus

Lou Girardin
29th March 2004, 06:48
Are these speeds being quoted as seen on the speedo? If not, we must get the quick versions of all these bikes. 20 to 30 km/h faster than anywhere else.
Lou

wkid_one
29th March 2004, 07:31
All mine are speedo readings.....kinda funny tho Lou - whenever I am speeding the last thing I wanted was a cop with a laser to tell me EXACTLY what speed I was doing. I think I will stick with the speedo reading

White trash
29th March 2004, 08:10
Are these speeds being quoted as seen on the speedo? If not, we must get the quick versions of all these bikes. 20 to 30 km/h faster than anywhere else.
Lou

Exactly.

I've seen 285 on the 600's speedo for christs sake! That was at a timed flying quater and actual speed was 261.82kph.

Still bloody fast for a 6 hundy though! :eek5:

Racer X
29th March 2004, 12:15
I've been 60 k's while skateboarding behind my 400 with a mate driving :rolleyes:

SPman
29th March 2004, 12:25
From my gearing spreadsheet with current gearing @ 13000 rpm (yes, I've been there). Can't guarantee the accuracy of the Tacho, but its near enough! Speedo readings arent really worth a lot!

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tlronny
29th March 2004, 14:11
My '03 "Busa just stays at 300 no matter how hard you try !
i must say that the road sure looks narrow though :Pokey:
Just a thought to "Mr Controversy" - I didnt think R1's were capable of such a top end ? (although they get there pretty quick)

wkid_one
29th March 2004, 14:51
That's what the speedo reads...that is all I know...as for the actual speed - who knows. All I can attest is I have had the bike to 299 on the speedo and it sat there.

Mangell was there when I did it once by the flood gates (where the sprints are held) behind Martinborough

duckman
29th March 2004, 15:18
I run out of top speed Balls before my bike does.... got to 225 while down south... but then chickened out... :eek5:

I don't know how comfortable I'd be going much faster tho'.

bungbung
29th March 2004, 15:38
.
Mangell was there when I did it once by the flood gates (where the prints are held) behind Martinborough

Same bat day, same bat time... I had my VTR indicating 235 - 240, Mangell6 was fair sprinting away and Wkid's R1 in front of him. I get the impression the VTR might have gone faster down a cog .

DEATH_INC.
29th March 2004, 18:59
My '03 "Busa just stays at 300 no matter how hard you try !
i must say that the road sure looks narrow though :Pokey:
Yeah......Had a guy in a ute turn accross the road into his driveway about 1/2k in front of me with about 310 on the speedo :whistle: (not his fault :rolleyes: ),you cover a lot of ground real quick at that speed eh :eek5: ?And don't stop or turn too well either.......

dangerous
29th March 2004, 19:30
Are these speeds being quoted as seen on the speedo? Lou

Yes, except the VTR which I have been told by serveral people they have seen.

If you go back 1 page to reply #33 of mine I have attached a photo of the VFR (Very Fast Roadbike) who's to say how far out the speedo might be?

DEATH_INC.
29th March 2004, 20:34
My '03 "Busa just stays at 300 no matter how hard you try !

:sneaky2: You wanna know how to get rid of the speed limiter? :sly:

DEATH_INC.
29th March 2004, 20:40
Are these speeds being quoted as seen on the speedo? If not, we must get the quick versions of all these bikes. 20 to 30 km/h faster than anywhere else.
Lou
Yeh,though I've calculated the turbo's speedo to be fairly correct(using gearing/rpm/tire dia ect)and the same for the 12(I think I said it was about 315 or so @ 330...)

Morepower
29th March 2004, 21:11
Speedometers and Tachometers are notoriously inaccurate however you are all f...ing nuts :eek5: next time you are doing 200 plus try and see how fast you can stop.
Me I would never go that fast :rolleyes: Honest :)

Dave

Two Smoker
29th March 2004, 21:12
Speedometers and Tachometers are notoriously inaccurate however you are all f...ing nuts :eek5: next time you are doing 200 plus try and see how fast you can stop.
Me I would never go that fast :rolleyes: Honest :)

Dave
180kmh to 60kmh in about 60 metres (braking at the back straight of puke)

dangerous
29th March 2004, 21:18
I usualy only ever try for top speed once on a bike and only if it fells right (ya just know aye) I never plan to do it its a spontainious thing. :apint:

Morepower
29th March 2004, 21:28
I usualy only ever try for top speed once on a bike and only if it fells right (ya just know aye) I never plan to do it its a spontainious thing. :apint:
I know :) we have all done it :innocent:

Suzi Q
29th March 2004, 21:39
Well, on Saturday coming back from Hororata I got up to 200kms - in the wind, non crouched. I know it can go faster but I chickened out - my hubby on the 'busa with the radar detector was too far ahead of me!!! :Police:
I didn't plan it but the boys started getting faster and faster and so i did the usuall to try and keep them in sight! If I had planned it I would have assumed the crouch and maybe gone a bit faster!

tlronny
30th March 2004, 06:46
:sneaky2: You wanna know how to get rid of the speed limiter? :sly:

If you are talking about the TRE device then Im not too keen on it as I think it can do funny things to the idle and/or low speed fuelling ??? :disapint:

Oh and "Morepower" - you and that 'Guzzi' dude the other nite coming back from the 'Tiko' last Thurs were absolutely showing no respect for anything alive !!
When you blasted past us slow guys doing 130km/hr at NIGHT !- PURE MADNESS - LUVVED :D IT !

Lou Girardin
30th March 2004, 06:50
180kmh to 60kmh in about 60 metres (braking at the back straight of puke)
Yeah, but I'd rather be stopped than hit a cage at 60km/h.
Lou

dangerous
30th March 2004, 19:08
If you are talking about the TRE device then Im not too keen on it as I think it can do funny things to the idle and/or low speed fuelling ??? :disapint:

Oh and "Morepower" - you and that 'Guzzi' dude the other nite coming back from the 'Tiko' last Thurs were absolutely showing no respect for anything alive !!
When you blasted past us slow guys doing 130km/hr at NIGHT !- PURE MADNESS - LUVVED :D IT !

The speed limiter is a easy fix, All you do is put a diod somewere and it tricks the puter into thinking its still in 3rd gear were the limiter dosent work. A mate had the shop do it on a GS1200ss.

Say what! theres a nother mad Guzzi dude out there?.....oh thats right I'm dangerous not mad :whistle:
What flavour Guzzi was it??

speedpro
30th March 2004, 21:20
I figured the bike was going 311K@9000rpm, the cops said 312K so not too far off the mark with the calculations. Using a bigger engine, 1166cc versus 1075cc, a mate managed 9300rpm down the back straight. Do the calcs yourself. The kink becomes a mission and 200yards of braking disappears real fast. Did I mention there isn't a fairing?

Two Smoker
30th March 2004, 21:30
Yeah, but I'd rather be stopped than hit a cage at 60km/h.
Lou
LOL good point Lou... But i dont really want to hit zero on the back straight...... hmmm... who's done high speed braking before (like top speed or really high speed down to zero)????????

Morepower
30th March 2004, 22:36
The speed limiter is a easy fix, All you do is put a diod somewere and it tricks the puter into thinking its still in 3rd gear were the limmiter dosent work a mate had the shop do it on a GS1200ss.

Say what! theres a nother mad Guzzi dude out there?.....oh thats right I'm dangerous not mad :whistle:
What flavour Guzzi was it??

The Guzzi is the last of the carbed 1100 sports (95 or 96 I think ) cant keep up long enough to find out :laugh:

Oh and tlronnie , my speedometer light doesnt work so I had no idea how fast we were going , until I did a quick calculation from the Rpm in my head .
I slowed down then :sweatdrop

Dave

Eddieb
30th March 2004, 23:24
I've had an indicated 155 MPH on the 888, I believe it reads 6-7% over though.

tlronny
31st March 2004, 06:27
Dave - Are you going again on Thursday ?
You were doing way over 200km/hr I reckon - I only reeled you in as you got TO the 'Onny' - had fun blasting past Adrian on his SV thou - reckon I saw about 250km/hr at least around the old dragstrip area !
Bit scary in the dark !! :cold:

Wonko
31st March 2004, 15:04
A 1000 off the redline at 210. Nice bit of flat road, three lanes wide with nothing else in site, 3 am is good for some things. Damn bugs feel like rocks hitting the helmet at that speed.

MrMelon
31st March 2004, 15:50
I've had the tzr up to about 190.
Since I got all the gaskets replaced and the head skimmed It really seems to drop it's nuts at 10,000rpm, so I can't really get over 170 any more :( (10,000rpm in 6th)

White trash
31st March 2004, 16:13
How much off the head? If you run 2 base gaskets, it should put the compression back to std and raise the port timing so the power comes in harder.

Yahoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MrMelon
31st March 2004, 16:20
Don't know how much was taken off the head/barrels, but they were aparrently visibly warped.

At the moment the power hits pretty hard at 8 and goes to 10, but fuckall above 10 which is a bit gay... I'd actually be kinda tempted to chuck another base gasket in there and give it a go.. but the odometer's just ticked over 80,000km's, so I'm not too sure whether I should start thinking about new pistons/cranks first?

The engine in there at the moment is a 2nd hand one that was put in at 50,000km's so I've got no idea on the mileage that's on it now, but I've got the old engine sitting at home (it blew up a couple of times so they just replaced it). Just ripped the barrels off last night and it looks like one of the cylinders had a bit of an encounter with a power valve, so there's a chunk out of the piston, the power valve's a bit scraped up, and the rings have come off and made a bit of a mess of the barrel. Both heads are a bit dented up too :/
Just wondering whether it's worth the time and trouble to try and get this old engine all fixed up cheaply, or if it'll just be a nightmare.

Morepower
31st March 2004, 16:31
Dave - Are you going again on Thursday ?
You were doing way over 200km/hr I reckon - I only reeled you in as you got TO the 'Onny' - had fun blasting past Adrian on his SV thou - reckon I saw about 250km/hr at least around the old dragstrip area !
Bit scary in the dark !! :cold:

Should be there , and it was not me officer "honest" luckily it was dark otherwise at that 100kmh I would have been scared :shit:

White trash
31st March 2004, 16:42
Don't know how much was taken off the head/barrels, but they were aparrently visibly warped.

At the moment the power hits pretty hard at 8 and goes to 10, but fuckall above 10 which is a bit gay... I'd actually be kinda tempted to chuck another base gasket in there and give it a go.. but the odometer's just ticked over 80,000km's, so I'm not too sure whether I should start thinking about new pistons/cranks first?

The engine in there at the moment is a 2nd hand one that was put in at 50,000km's so I've got no idea on the mileage that's on it now, but I've got the old engine sitting at home (it blew up a couple of times so they just replaced it). Just ripped the barrels off last night and it looks like one of the cylinders had a bit of an encounter with a power valve, so there's a chunk out of the piston, the power valve's a bit scraped up, and the rings have come off and made a bit of a mess of the barrel. Both heads are a bit dented up too :/
Just wondering whether it's worth the time and trouble to try and get this old engine all fixed up cheaply, or if it'll just be a nightmare.
:no: Buy yourself a nice Gixxer Six my friend and enjoy trouble free miles.

Two Smoker
31st March 2004, 18:45
Well with all this talk about Top Speeds and things like this, i decided to find out what my bike can really do, So about 3 hours ago (the ride ended up going on a bit longer than expected lol) Auckland Traffic gifted me with 2km of empty motorway and my brain gifted me the stupidity to try for the top speed hehehe, Well i started of in 1st and worked my way through the gears to sixth redlining each gear... I hit 6th and held it there.... i hit 180 pretty quickly, the the tacho showed me she had more to go hehehe, about 10 seconds later I was doing 195kmh (on the speedo) on a slight upcline:gob: , i couldnt believe my little 150 can do that hehehe, the actual speed was more around the 188-190kmh mark hehehe. So there i have found it, the top speed of my bike is 195 (on the speedo) at 13000rpm in 6th gear and it wont go any faster.... (Unless i do some more modifications :whistle: hehehe)

DEATH_INC.
31st March 2004, 23:26
If you are talking about the TRE device then Im not too keen on it as I think it can do funny things to the idle and/or low speed fuelling ??? :disapint:

Oh and "Morepower" - you and that 'Guzzi' dude the other nite coming back from the 'Tiko' last Thurs were absolutely showing no respect for anything alive !!
When you blasted past us slow guys doing 130km/hr at NIGHT !- PURE MADNESS - LUVVED :D IT !

Yep,you should give it a try,I've done it on 3 Zooks now and all been great.
All it does is stops the timing retard in first,second and third(it has no effect on fuelling)and removes the speed limiter in top :niceone: and if you do it with the resistor,it doesn't cost much (about 20c)and is easily reversable if you don't like it.

tlronny
6th April 2004, 06:45
Doesnt it alter the idle when in neutral as the bike thinks its in 5th and also wot about the FI light coming on ?
The '03 bikes also have an upgraded CPU which may be 'smarter' ?
Not to mention the standard retarding doesnt come in if your at WOT ?

Coldkiwi
6th April 2004, 12:36
LOL good point Lou... But i dont really want to hit zero on the back straight...... hmmm... who's done high speed braking before (like top speed or really high speed down to zero)????????

I guess the hair pin at pukekohe has to count even tho its not to a dead stop (unless you get it really wrong).
It takes me ages to get my braking rhthym for that corner and fight the survival instinct not to start pulling the lever in at the 200m mark. Closest I've got is about 120-130metres I think and thats from an indicated 255kmhr. Still got room for improvement and I know it... that corner looks like its approaching awfully fast!

vifferman
6th April 2004, 13:35
This is a rather inane topic, in my opinion. It's OK if - like ColdKiwi - you're talking about track-based stuff, but otherwise :whocares:

Or is this another "I've got a bigger dick than you" thread?

Ask that guy in Nelson who got pinged at 202 what his top speed is...

Flame away....

SPman
6th April 2004, 14:59
. Still got room for improvement and I know it... that corner looks like its approaching awfully fast!
And on the road, the arse end of a car approaches even awfully faster :sweatdrop

wkid_one
6th April 2004, 15:28
This is a rather inane topic, in my opinion. It's OK if - like ColdKiwi - you're talking about track-based stuff, but otherwise :whocares:

Or is this another "I've got a bigger dick than you" thread?

Ask that guy in Nelson who got pinged at 202 what his top speed is...

Flame away....
Hear hear - well said.

Your top speed is only limited by the bike...at the end of the day.

Who cares what you top speed is - what is more important is how quick you are point to point - hence a race track being a more valid reference point for speed.

You can travel 300kph down the straights - but still turn up behind someone who averages 150kph for the whole journey. Who cares what terminal velocity is - as I am yet to travel anyway that only involves a straight line.

TonyB
15th September 2004, 10:52
i'd rather do 200 on the rs than on my mates 92 fzr1000 though - shit that takes some stoppin' that thing does.....
:laugh: I know just what you mean, I've had my FZR1000 doing 240k indicated at Ruapuna, there was more to come, but I was really having to haul on the brake lever to slow it down again so I chickened out- lap after lap after....... Braided lines and better pads might be the go methinks. I've seen it still pulling at 270 indicated, but I was running out of road and nerve so I shut her down.

I hear what your saying with the 'who's got the biggest dick' thing, but the first question I get asked about my bike by non bikers is either:
"How fast does it go?"
or
"Whats the fastest you've ever gone on it"
That makes a guy curious after a while.
They usually then say something like "Yeh, but it's not as fast as a Harley, is it?" :wacko:

kerryg
15th September 2004, 12:02
[QUOTE=TonyB

I hear what your saying with the 'who's got the biggest dick' thing, but the first question I get asked about my bike by non bikers is either:
"How fast does it go?"
or
"Whats the fastest you've ever gone on it"
That makes a guy curious after a while.
They usually then say something like "Yeh, but it's not as fast as a Harley, is it?" :wacko:[/QUOTE]

Hey Tony. It's an interesting subject with lots of equally valid different points of view. Maybe (my 2 cents worth here) in a perfect world we'd have one of every kind of bike so that we could enjoy every different facet of biking: a dedicated hard out dirt bike, an adventure bike (big KTM or a GS beemer would be kool), a retro street bike (maybe a Thruxton?), a big cruiser (HAS to be a Harley)...for all of which top speed and fastest absolute acceleration and maximum HP etc are largely immaterial to the experience..and of course a nice European street bike (hard to choose here.....MV Agusta? Guzzi? Ducati?) and a 600cc Japper sport bike (mmm...GSXR600? R6?) and a big grunter like a ZX12 or a Busa for the testosterone stuff....

"How fast" is a completely valid measure of a bike's performance, depending upon where a bike and rider fit in the spectrum. But it is one measure, not an over-arching criterion.

Guess what happens is we focus on the aspect of biking that is available to us and tend to exclude the forms that are outside of our range of experience or budget. It's human nature to some extent. Our bike becomes a kind of metaphor for ourselves. Disrespect my bike and you disrespect me......I try to resist it though. Hey..I'll wave at someone if they're riding a Honda step-thru or a Harley Fat Boy or whatever but I just hate it when they don't wave back because they (I suppose) think that their motorcycle is better than yours and presumably that they are better than you as a result (don't know that that logic stands close scrutiny but...)......it's kind of like going back to kindergarten.

It's interesting. Sort of "I am my motorbike"....weird

Posh Tourer :P
15th September 2004, 12:13
Top speed is not a relevant measure of the bike's performance. It means absolutely nothing, due to the many factors affecting it- gearing, power, tyres, frame, suspension -these all have a major impact. Top speed says nothing relevnt about the bike's performance. It is too dependant on other factors. Measure the quality of the power (acceleration?) suspension, tyres, gearing (acceleration again?) and frame, and you have a meaningful measure. Nobody really uses top speed in it's purest application. Acceleration, cornering ability, comfort, all these things matter in the use of the bike. Even while racing. Even drag racing is about acceleration more than top speed.
The only application of top speed I can think of is on a long straight at a racetrack, but even that has tradeoffs, because you could reduce acceleration for more top speed if you wanted.

JohnBoy
15th September 2004, 12:20
a mate of mine has a R version and his can go off the clock, (180+).
had mine to 260 KMH on the clock but, shes getting old now so it would be a less if i had a gun. however that was nearly flat out, but i have a noisy helmet and its simply too loud at those speeds, going to invest in some ear plugs and have another go in the summer!!!

kerryg
15th September 2004, 12:25
Top speed is not a relevant measure of the bike's performance. It means absolutely nothing, due to the many factors affecting it- gearing, power, tyres, frame, suspension -these all have a major impact. Top speed says nothing relevnt about the bike's performance. It is too dependant on other factors. Measure the quality of the power (acceleration?) suspension, tyres, gearing (acceleration again?) and frame, and you have a meaningful measure. Nobody really uses top speed in it's purest application. Acceleration, cornering ability, comfort, all these things matter in the use of the bike. Even while racing. Even drag racing is about acceleration more than top speed.
The only application of top speed I can think of is on a long straight at a racetrack, but even that has tradeoffs, because you could reduce acceleration for more top speed if you wanted.


Well there ya go....a different and completely reasonable opinion expressed from a particular standpoint (but not, dare I say it) the only reasonable standpoint. QED

Sensei
15th September 2004, 20:59
300k twice on the speedo on my old GSX1100R / 235k Ducati 907IE/
260k Yamaha FZ1000 / 230k Triumph T509 / 150k XT500
Sensei :niceone:

FROSTY
15th September 2004, 21:13
Milky just wanted me to tell you guys his CB125T does 110kmh hehehe, 120kmh with a tail wind lol:laugh:

But then there is me CT110......... 92kmh LOL and it takes me about 15 seconds to get to 60kmh LMAO:laugh: ....... What a beast, if you want a scary ride, get on one of them in the wind at 80+kmh with 30kgs of mail :crazy: .....
The military service xl100 I heard of achieved a top speed of 298.5 km/h -true speed
That was just before it hit the ground having fallen out the crate beeing parachuted into some remote location--aparently it still ran afterwards but the forks were-"a touch bent"

NC
15th September 2004, 21:13
Twohundredandthirtyfive kilometersanhour

Magua
15th September 2004, 22:50
I hear the FZR250 can get to 180kph, but I don't think mine could get there. '88 2kr Exup. The newer ones (3ln) rev much higher but aparently that doesn't make much difference to the performance because usuable power ends at 14000 RPM, so it sounds like it's all for show.

Velox
16th September 2004, 00:13
Mine "reckons" we got up to 185, but that was 5k off the speedo and I'm sure it would be lying a bit at that extreme (185 is very 'extreme' for my bike!) How much do speedos lie at the top speeds? I guess it differs a bit for diff bikes though too.

Drunken Monkey
16th September 2004, 11:18
The magazines say 265 on paper (164mph), had it showing 272 indicated with revs to burn, but mine is 'tweaked' a bit...