Daddy needs a new bike...

[sedge]

Heh heh... My little boy (3) has been telling everyone that, don't know where he got that idea ;)

Right well... Here we go... I've got a few choices (~10k)... Some history first I guess.

Last few bikes go like this.

ZXR750 H1... Cool bike, bit old, too many ks (Mr little cock went through a give way and wrote it/me off).

GSXR750 ('86)... Went Ok, brakes were terrible, couldn't fit my feet up on the pegs when I was in a hurry. Ah... pretty much a shite old bike really.

ZZR1100 ('94)... Had enough poke when wound up, Mrs was OK on the back, waaay too heavy for the Paekak hill and ground clearance was getting to be an issue.

ZXR750 J1... Ah, only the one seat, goes quick, handling is great with the moto-x bars on it. No fairing. I like it, but I want something newer/tidier with two seats.

What I'm looking at and why;

I want something a little different.
I need to commute 120-140 ks a day depending on which way I come home (the ZXR H1 was OK so I guess comfort isn't an issue).
The tank HAS to do 240ks before hitting reserve.
I need to get the mrs on the back occasionally (as you do ;) )
It has to handle well, the ZXR J1 is fine, the ZZR made me feel like I'd been at the gym after a couple of runs over the Rimutakas in a hurry.
I don't want to feel like I have to ring it's neck, converesly I don't want it to be so lazy I just leave it in one gear and ride torque (ZZR)
Could do with some fairing again.

Aprilia RSV. (just out of my price range :(, but I may find one) MMMmmmm
Ducati 900ss 98 up. 916 too focussed for commuting... Tank range may be too small ? Fully faired a bit hideous.
GSXR 1000. Why not ? Bit average looking, pillion seat up to much ?
Fireblade. Bit normal.
SV1000. Cheap for a newish bike... Looks don't appeal I love the TLS/TLR but tank range is tiny. I know people says it's ugly but I love the em !
ZX9R > 98. Nice bike... A bit average looking. (although I like the plain black or blue C1/2)
ZX7R > 2000. Ok, I like Kwakas :) Gorgeous but I don't want to always feel like I want more grunt/less weight. I could sit in the garage staring at it for hours though.
ZX10r... Hahahaha... Too expensive, but I'd like one.

Sigh... Anyone (everyone) else been through this ?

Do I get the GSXR and go crazy ? The sensible SV1000 that will always feel second best ? The 7R ? The 9R ?

I'm gonna be doing some test rides soon... What should I chop off my list ? Anything else I should be looking at ?

Cheers,

Sedge.

[Colapop]

Have a look at the Duke's at Motomart. Good sales and after sales service.

http://www.motomart.co.nz/

[sedge]

Ta... Anyone try a Falco vs RSV ? Huge difference ?

And oh yeah... How would the Hayabusa compare to my ZXR750 one up handling wise ? Heavyweight ? Clearance ?

Sedge.

[Kendog]

What about a CB900 Hornet?

And yes, I may be a little biased ;) But $11k new :niceone:

[bladez]

What about a CB900 Hornet?

And yes, I may be a little biased ;) But $11k new :niceone:
mmmmmm heard one the other day sounded bloody nice but yes they are a good all round bike with a twist of the rist you are a way having fun :apint:

[sedge]

The ZXR I have is pretty similar in looks to the Hornet, it's just uglier and angrier... There are a couple down where I park my bike in town... Pretty good value I have to admit.

Ta,

Sedge.

Actually Bladez there's a 92 Fireblade on TM at the moment that's done 1200ks ! What are they like to ride ? Power ? Pillion ? Handling ? Comparable to what ?

[T.W.R]

Actually Bladez there's a 92 Fireblade on TM at the moment that's done 1200ks ! What are they like to ride ? Power ? Pillion ? Handling ? Comparable to what ?

92 Blades are flighty on rougher road surfaces unless their suspension has been tweaked (front end revalved etc) rest of it is comparable to ZX7R but with a good mid-range stomp

[limbimtimwim]

I'm gonna be doing some test rides soon... What should I chop off my list ? Anything else I should be looking at ?What about this: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=24191 ? I've always thought they were so cool. Not that I have ever had a go on one, but I'd like to.

[sedge]

Had a look at the ZRX when I was in at Boyles the other day (test road an older ZX9R they had in, nice looking bike but too heavy and felt too slow)...

I guess I really want a sports bike... Like the Hornet the ZRX is similar to what I've got at the moment with a bit more poke, but a bit too similar.

They do have a nice ZX7R in there... only 1100Ks ! Pricey though.

Cheers for the heads up on the Blade, I quite like the older ones.

Sedge.

[Sniper]

tl1000s???...........

[James Deuce]

Perfect bike for you here mate:

http://www.motorad.co.nz/the5thdimension/vehiclelistings.asp?page_size=1&current_page=2&categoryID_list=20

[sedge]

Hey Jim2 !

Sadly I won't buy from them. Ever. (bad past experience) But that looks pretty good.

Heh heh, I know that you're serial bike buyer just like me ;)

Wait till I get a new bike and we'll go for that ride eh ? The ZXR just doesn't cut it after an hour, It's fine if you are caning it over the Takas, but the seat is a mouse mat (no, really, it is !) and any boring roads are torture.

'm a solo dad this weekend as the Mrs is down Sth visiting her buddy so I have brownie points building up ;) In fact she was just saying the other night that I haven't been out riding much since I sold the ZZR.

I'm thinking I'll take a day off and saddle up a posse for a ride either ferry/Takaka/Nelson/Kaikoura/CHCH and back or up the Paraparas/nat park/coro and back etc (Can poss get a good deal on the Bluebridge ferry)

Pref an overnighter somewhere so I can drink and fall over. Maybe it's time I did some bike rallies eh ?

Sedge.

*edit* Heh heh, maybe I should just test ride it anyway ? No wonder they hate customers.

[sedge]

tl1000s???...........

Yup, absolutely love em, but I'd have to fill up EVERY night... Bike has to do two trips to town and back and I don't want to have to ride slowly to do it. Absolute minimum is 220ks BEFORE reserve.

They are cool though, sigh... But I have to live with it.

Sedge.

[Zapf]

CB1300S? 2 seats... fairing... (ish) cheapish.... grunty... lazy...(ermmm)

[Deviant Esq]

Honda CBR1100XX Blackbird? Not too sure if you'd consider it a sprotbike (not really), but it could be worth a look if you're after a bit more comfort, esp 2 up.

Here's a pic:

http://www.rigsville.org.uk/photos/010605B-7.jpg

Ground clearance might be an issue there too. And not as "fun" when you're on your own (subject to debate).

[sedge]

Ah.. No Blackbirds, the ZZR11 was similar, I want that power, less lard, much quicker handling, pillion is 2nd... It's my bike, I'm selfish...

The only Hondas that appeal are the SP1-2 and the Blade... SP tank range is shocking so that leaves the Blade (which I am definitely considering)

I want a sports bike ! But I'd also like something with character, I don't mean that stuff falls off it, just something I can look at and say 'that's my bike, that's why I bought it'

I can be psychotic on the bike, I go over the Paekak hill a few times a week and have been known to touch body parts to the road (std disclaimer applies, I'm a medical lab assistant, the body parts are not mine, I just like to scrape them on the road and leave blood trails to freak the police out). Mostly though I just wobble through traffic home/back so the bike has to do both of these things without exploding.

Sedge.

ps. I don't work in a lab at all, I just rummage through the bins ;)

*edit* No offence to the Police, Honda owners or lab assistants... I don't mean to sound like a cunt.

[Deviant Esq]

Std disclaimer applies, I'm a medical lab assistant, the body parts are not mine, I just like to scrape them on the road and leave blood trails to freak the police out...

ps. I don't work in a lab at all, I just rummage through the bins ;)

:lol:

You're too much mate, well done. Got me laughing away, so you get some green as a reward.

As an aside... :puke:

[Zapf]

Absolute minimum is 220ks BEFORE reserve.

CB900 Hornets are 260~270k's before reserve. Pitty not your type thou.

[T.W.R]

heres a couple of ideas Sedge, 93 Blade at henderson Motorcycles $8495,
97 YZF1000 private in Akld $7200, or trackdown a RR (WSB)model of one these. Or last idea go balistic & throw a ZX9R donky in the ZXR :shit: simple transplant operation (GP motorcycles have a C1 ZX9R engine for $2g)

[sedge]

CB900 Hornets are 260~270k's before reserve. Pitty not your type thou.

I do like them, bloody good value too, 11k new ! I just know that in a few months I'd want something else.

I've got a chance to get something special, I may not get another for a long time.

Sedge.

[R1madness]

There is a solution.

I have been importing used bikes for years on the quiet. I dont usually advertise the fact but i can get just about anything people want. The only downfall is that if its something i dont have on the way already there is a delay of up to 8 -10 weeks while i find one and get it shipped. I offer a 100% customer satisfaction guarentee on all my imports. If it arrives and is not exactly as it has been described there is no pressure to purchase and i will fully refund any deposit paid.
I do not have a shop, i do all my dealings from a 4 car garage (to keep my costs down so you get a better deal) but i am looking to set up a wharehouse here.
If you are serious about buying and want a good bike at a great price with excellent custiomer service give me a call.
Ian 021 1876987 or 03 9816399

How about a
99 R1 Heaps of goodies on it $10K
ZX9R 1998 for $9K
Ducati 900SS 92 - 96 for under $10K ( a couple to choose from)
Triumph daytona 98 $9700
Ducati ST2 (944 motor) $9500 upwards

Want to spend a little more?
Harley Davidson 2000 FXDX Sport 33000K $18100
Harley Davidson 2002 FATBOY $19000

You tell me what you want. It can be found..........

[Kendog]

CB900 Hornets are 260~270k's before reserve. Pitty not your type thou.

Mine only gets around 240k, I didn't think I rode it that hard.

[bladez]

The ZXR I have is pretty similar in looks to the Hornet, it's

Sedge.

Actually Bladez there's a 92 Fireblade on TM at the moment that's done 1200ks ! What are they like to ride ? Power ? Pillion ? Handling ? Comparable to what ?
hey there Sedge i have found they ride very well and my partner loves it on the back did have a tl100s befor this and only thing i missed was the sound and v-twin power but the 92-95 cbrs hold there price very well. good luck with ya pick and have fun out there :woohoo:

[Gremlin]

well... I have to say this :innocent: GO THE ZX7R

weight wise, yes it is heavy for a sportsbike, but that makes it planted on the road. You should get 220 to 240 without reserve.

2000 or newer might be hard for $10k, but the P series is an awesome bike. If you enjoy modding the bike, the 9 engine just about bolts into the chassis I believe, or there is the 810cc big bore kit I believe. Not to mention normal mods.

One damn good looking bike, and even more amazing when you consider it was designed in 1996.

[bladez]

well... I have to say this :innocent: GO THE ZX7R

One damn good looking bike, and even more amazing when you consider it was designed in 1996.
Very nice looking bike Gremlin so you going to do the 9 in ya bike was going to do that to my gsxr750 when i had it but couldent find a cheap 11 so sold the bike :beer::weep:

[T.W.R]

2000 or newer might be hard for $10k, but the P series is an awesome bike. If you enjoy modding the bike, the 9 engine just about bolts into the chassis I believe, or there is the 810cc big bore kit I believe. Not to mention normal mods.

One damn good looking bike, and even more amazing when you consider it was designed in 1996.

the ZX9R motor does fit into a ZX7R frame though not as easily as into a earlier ZXR frame, theres a difference between the two as the ZX7R frame is slightly shorter which is where the trouble starts.
ZX7R (ZX750P)as you've got Gremlin is/was a top bike and way more than capable of cutting it today weight or no weight but the big bang ZX7RR (ZX750N) is the prized toy to have if it ever appears (there was one in ChCh at Sportszone Suzuki a while back that went for $10995).

[Gremlin]

ZX7R (ZX750P)as you've got Gremlin is/was a top bike and way more than capable of cutting it today weight or no weight but the big bang ZX7RR (ZX750N) is the prized toy to have if it ever appears (there was one in ChCh at Sportszone Suzuki a while back that went for $10995).
There was a zx750n in Waipukurau, for list $6995 or $7995, it was on biketrader when I was looking. I decided not to get one as it was less ridable on the roads, with the power sitting higher up, and the lack of a pillion seat. Some reviews/fan pages on the net also stated the r was quicker than the rr on normal roads. Track, there is no doubt as to the rr's ability.

Not sure what I'm going to do with mine... quite a while away yet. Either the 9 engine, or the 810cc big bore kit (the racers were allowed to run these when the 1000cc bikes came out, and the 7 was still beating them). A supercharger could also be an option... don't need to think about it yet tho...

edit: TWR... wow... there are a lot of mods to that bike.... whoevers it is, can I swap?? :lol:

[bladez]

Just had a look at the 92 blade very mint dont no how low his price would be. But then get a bike that puts a smile on ya dial and have fun out there :apint:

[sedge]

I do like the ZX7R... I also like the RSV (a lot) Anyone tried both ? Is the RSV $4K better than a 7R ?

From what I've read about the 7R the best value mod isn't an engine swap but dropping in the crank from the M model, bumps capacity up to 793cc and 130rwhp.

Ah... I'd never do it though, insurance would be a nightmare.

So at the moment it's looking like RSV or 7R, they both look special (too me) and fill the other requirements, the RSV would be ideal, it's just finding one in my price bracket.

There is still a 96 ZX7RR for sale at $6995ono from a dealer... PM me if you want details.

Sedge.

[Gremlin]

So at the moment it's looking like RSV or 7R, they both look special (too me) and fill the other requirements, the RSV would be ideal, it's just finding one in my price bracket.
If you have several bikes that are still an option, another KB'er put it a good way.

Putting them all side by side in your garage, which would you ride more??

[sedge]

If you have several bikes that are still an option, another KB'er put it a good way.

Putting them all side by side in your garage, which would you ride more??

That is a great idea...

RSV yup
ZX7R yup
Blade maybe
GSXR nup
9R nup
SV1000 nup

Sedge.

*edit* In order of most yup to most nup... But is the RSV $4k more yup than the 7R ?

[Gremlin]

In order of most yup to most nup... But is the RSV $4k more yup than the 7R ?
:rofl: I see your problem. Have you test ridden both of the specific models you are looking at??

I would guess that aprilia would be more expensive for parts and servicing, is it still more worth it??

From your budget of $10k, $4k is 2/5 extra... would you think the rsv can give you 2/5 extra fun, and if problems arise, be able to afford them, having spent the extra $4k??

[T.W.R]

edit: TWR... wow... there are a lot of mods to that bike.... whoevers it is, can I swap?? :lol:

lol Gremlin that beasty is $35G aus worth of bike (at 1997) custom fuel injection 138ps (dyno measured at R&E australia) 95 ZX7R frame, 95 ZX9R motor, RC30 swingarm etc (would be nice though:msn-wink: ) its from Streetbike issue 44 , a bloke named Brendon Findlay owned in & a guy named Geoff Braddock built it with help from Peter Doyle ( Kawasaki Australia CEO )

yeah the ZX750N is a dynamite machine but all top end go ( which is what their about though ) nowhere near as tractable as std model, took a lot of skill to ride them fast properly

[loosebruce]

Suzuki did to a limited run recently of factory ones fitted..


Not a limited run mate, they are the new K6-7 SV - S's still they should chuck the ol TL motor in it, not the refined SV version.

[sedge]

Hey... The SV looks nice in silver with the fairing !... However I looked up the tank range and it's only 200k :( so it's off my list.

I'm up in AKL next weekend for work, gonna do some serious looking the week after that, IE take back some time in lieu and use it to test/buy a bike.

Man... I can't wait.

Sedge.

[madboy]

I've heard a rumour that what Bruce loses in fuel economy he makes up by saving wear on front tyres...

My 02 636 would prob do 240k to a tank if you were commuting. And you'd get one for $10k I'd expect. But with only 118hp it might not spin your wheels (no pun intended).

[madboy]

you got a pic of your 636 madboy?Yep, but I try and keep pics of it out of the public domain. Too many of your workmates might recognise it. Nothing personal. The internet is a small place.

[sedge]

The internet is a small place.

Hahahhahaha... Sorry.

I get what you mean though... you'll be sitting in a cafe in Iceland or something and some crazy eyed guy with a three foot beard will come up and say "heeeeey, Warrt a nice 636 you are having, would you like some pickled reindeer ?" (I have no idea what an Icelandic accent sounds like)

I saw a black 636 with the underseat pipe today with the gold bits... Nice...

RE the bikes, if I can't get an RSV cheap enough I'll look out for a 7R, I've missed out on the one on TM coz I don't get the money till the end of the week :(

Who knows ? I may still get a GSXR once I've spent a few days test riding things.

Sedge.

[loosebruce]

Yeah most V twins i know of like the SP and VTR have pretty small tanks with crappy range due to the fact they are thirsty..

whats the TLS like bruce?

Shit it could be, pretty sure i saw in SBK mag that the new S model was going to look like that, but then again a Ltd Edition Suzuki Model as in the Corona 600, and how many of them are around?

As for TL and mileage, i aint the best too comment :whistle: i've had it as bad as 98km and the feul light came on (track) to 190oddkm (best ever, best behaved too) 220 is the most i have ever got out and that was dry, long walk to the petrol station. really 160km open road and 130-140kph commuting.

But yea most twins are thirsty, just the way it is.

[NhuanH]

The tank HAS to do 240ks before hitting reserve.
...
Aprilia RSV. (just out of my price range :(, but I may find one) MMMmmmm
Ducati 900ss 98 up. 916 too focussed for commuting... Tank range may be too small ? Fully faired a bit hideous.
GSXR 1000. Why not ? Bit average looking, pillion seat up to much ?
Fireblade. Bit normal.
SV1000. Cheap for a newish bike... Looks don't appeal I love the TLS/TLR but tank range is tiny. I know people says it's ugly but I love the em !
ZX9R > 98. Nice bike... A bit average looking. (although I like the plain black or blue C1/2)
ZX7R > 2000. Ok, I like Kwakas :) Gorgeous but I don't want to always feel like I want more grunt/less weight. I could sit in the garage staring at it for hours though.
ZX10r... Hahahaha... Too expensive, but I'd like one.
I'm convinced that list of prospective machines and your 240kms before reserve requirement are mutually exclusive. Sorry fella, an evil plot of mad bassa sports bike makers and even more evil oil barons.



CB900 Hornets are 260~270k's before reserve.
WTF! :weird: Do you shut your engine off to coast downhill?

[sedge]

Daddy just got a new bike, a nice red TL1000s from TSS in WGTN...

Decided to get a fun bike and keep the ZXR for commuting as well... The GSXR1000 was just too much $ in the end and I'd hate to put slow 30-35k on it in a year.

Thanks everyone for your help deciding, it really came down to getting one of the bikes I'd always wanted... It was that or a ZX7R... I've already had some ZXRs and the 7r wouldn't be that different... So the TLs/r was all that was left.

I tried a TLR and it was a bit porky and lacked real grunt till the top end of the revs. (could have just been the one I tried) The TLS on the other hand felt a bit raw and wobbly, I kinda like that.

Hopefully I wont get spat off it too soon ;) I'll be riding like a nana until I've had a good couple of weeks on it to get used to how it handles etc...

Then again, I did go over the Paekak hill on the way home playing wheelie stoppie wheelie stoppie :) So like an angry nana kind of.

Thanks again,

Sedge.

[Str8 Jacket]

Congrats Sedge, nice bike! Now maybe you can keep up with the KR now? :msn-wink:

[sedge]

Don't be mean, your little fecker bike goes round corners waaaay faster than it should. I just have to make sure to brake on the way out of them so I don't run it over... And your little melon too... It'd look real funny with a ZXR sticking out of it, the melon I mean, not the KR.

Sedge.

[Str8 Jacket]

LMAO!! So what your actually saying is you like the KR then?! :bleh: