A idea to save lives and ACC levy's [Archive]

Postie

9th February 2006, 15:34

I had an idea the other week and if you have a second, i would like some feed back on this.
My memory was jogged this morning when i was almost run over by a car coming into my lane with out looking in his mirrors first.
Quite a few accidents, in fact probably most accidents are caused by drivers who don't see us bikers, we know that this is because they are blind or don't have the brain capacity to use there mirrors and signal their intentions, but what if we could alert every driver within a 5-10 meter radius that there is a bike near them?
What if the govt made it law and part of the vehicle WOF to have a receiver in every car that would alert the driver, either visually or audibly that a bike is within range and on every bike we can have a tiny transmitter which will continuously trasmit a frequency so when ever a car comes with in range, they will know we are around. I know it has many flaws, but surly it would prevent cars having that excuse saying that they didn't know or see we were there.
the cons would be yet another thing to buy, service and so forth plus it would be annoying as hell to drivers when a shit load of bikes go past.

your thoughts??

Sniper

9th February 2006, 15:36

Thats an idea and the pro's outweigh the cons in moy opinion. Maybe it could work?

Jonty

9th February 2006, 15:37

Sounds like a good idea in theory. The whole issue is of course the price. many new high end cars are starting to come out with proximity sensors so it may be just a matter of time until they become standard. Also there is the problem that when you are hit by an idiot cager usually there would have been very little time to react once the beeper went off.

Grahameeboy

9th February 2006, 15:37

and cars........you would be surprised how many drivers do not see my ruddy great big Mazda MPV.....

sunhuntin

9th February 2006, 15:39

a good idea if someone has the money to make it happen...cagers are all to happy to have tvs installed in their cars, and big stereos, but life saving ideas, they will suddenly not have enough money for [go figure!]

dunno if the govt would go for it though...they make so much money off of us.

James Deuce

9th February 2006, 15:42

The Ambulance services around the country are trying to get this very thing setup, but they are being blocked by some frequency holders (e.g Commericial Radio Stations). The way it works is that when they are on an emergency call it will interupt your FM radio asking you to move out of the way, at the press of a button on the dash. If that system was implemented we could use the same equipment.

kiwifruit

9th February 2006, 15:48

good idea in theroy
wouldnt help in situations when cars come out of intersections/driveways etc, without looking properly, into the path of joe motorcyclist who is 11m away from the drives door and closing fast

Karma

9th February 2006, 15:48

Give cagers another thing to distract them?

They're hardly gonna notice a beeping dash when they're busy eating a sandwich / drinking a coke / doing their makeup.

justsomeguy

9th February 2006, 15:51

The reason most cagers don't see a bike is because they aren't looking for one.

When some of you learnt to drive and took driving lessons from a professional instructor or from a relative/friend, how many times did you hear the word "motorcycle" mentioned? Sure they say look out for the cyclist, but rarely if ever do motorbikes get a mention.

If like me you are relatively new to the Kiwi biking world - how many times did you hear about bikes before you got into bikes??

In how many ads on TV are there motorcycles? On how many billboards?? - Apart from those stupid boards at motorway exits that have been put up recently.

The transmitter is a good idea if the govt. will make them mandatory, in reality what we need are a few ads on TV showing bikes and the problems we face.

Beemer

9th February 2006, 15:51

Considering we were nearly side-swiped on Tuesday by a driver in the left lane (after merging from a slip lane) who decided he wanted to be in the outside lane to overtake a vehicle about 50m in front of him, these should be compulsory to alert them to ALL vehicles! Dickhead was level with us when he began drifting into our lane - and we were in the car. He obviously didn't even bother checking before he came onto the motorway or he would have seen us. Lucky there wasn't a Unimog in his lane as he merged or he'd be history. Typical reaction when we tooted the horn to let him know we were there - the one-fingered salute, like it was OUR fault?

justsomeguy

9th February 2006, 15:56

If that system was implemented we could use the same equipment.

"Get out of the way JSG is lanesplitting" :killingme

Hope the ambos get the service.

vifferman

9th February 2006, 16:00

I saw summat on TV a while back, being developed (I think) by Mercedes. It was a proximity sensor that warned a driver when he was about to change lanes to overtake and something was in his blind spot, or so near as to make pulling out dangerous. I can't recall the details, but I think there was some visual alarm built into the mirror that flashed in his eye or somesuch. We could have summat similar, and if the driver ignored the visual alert, he gets an acid spray. "Aaaaarrrghhh! My eye! MY EYE!!"

sunhuntin

9th February 2006, 16:01

would be a good idea for not only ambos, but for all emergency vehicles to get that fitted....even though ive never had one come up behind me, i doubt id notice a siren on its own....but then, how would that system get fitted to a bike with no radio?

ack. please disregard this post! LOL.:scratch:

mstriumph

9th February 2006, 16:04

or mebbe spank can do a nice line in orange fluo biker garb and we can all hang ourselves round with disco lights ...................:corn:

nahhhh - sorry, it's a good idea but what's the betting they STILL will stand over us as we lay bleeding on the tarmac and say, in an outraged whine, "... but i just didn't SEE you"

.. implication being that it mustha been OUR fault [or the universe's, or their nanny that potty trained them too young or -- ANYONE other than their stupid, unobservant selves]

heck - we have our HEADLIGHTS hard-wired 'on' already, where does it END one asks oneself?

i just hope that, if it happens to me, i am sufficiently concious and mobile to drag myself up off the road and bitch-slap the stupid, complacent, murderous [sorry, 'manslaughtering'] sod into the middle of next week before taking whatever comes to hand, heavy-impliment-wise, to his/her/its vehicle [thus rendering him/her/it as disadvantaged, transportation-wise, as he/she/it has made me ......:shifty: ]

Big Dave

9th February 2006, 16:05

Bah! - Simply acknowledge that every bastard in a car is and will try and kill you and get over it.

justsomeguy

9th February 2006, 16:06

or mebbe spank can do a nice line in orange fluo biker garb and we can all hang ourselves round with disco lights ...................:corn:
"... but i just didn't SEE you"

Hahaha.

What we need is some education not gadgets.

kro

9th February 2006, 16:38

A good idea, but half the knobcheeses in the country can't hear jack over their thump thump stereos.

Zapf

9th February 2006, 17:18

well every driver comes with multi spectrum listening devices.

Should you choose to equip your motorcycle with the correct emitters (loud exhaust) the drivers might choose to remember you are there if they choose to.

SPman

9th February 2006, 18:32

i just hope that, if it happens to me, i am sufficiently concious and mobile to drag myself up off the road and bitch-slap the stupid, complacent, murderous [sorry, 'manslaughtering'] sod into the middle of next week before taking whatever comes to hand, heavy-impliment-wise, to his/her/its vehicle [thus rendering him/her/it as disadvantaged, transportation-wise, as he/she/it has made me ......:shifty: ]
I thought you'd already done that..........:whistle:

We could have summat similar, and if the driver ignored the visual alert, he gets an acid spray. "Aaaaarrrghhh! My eye! MY EYE!!"
a piercing scream - like that emitted by a just squashed bimbette, would be more effective.......

Pixie

9th February 2006, 19:12

kiwifruit

9th February 2006, 19:43

A Taser in the seat cushion would do it

buahahahaaa!!
now thats a good idea

chic 'n' charge

9th February 2006, 19:43

It's a good idea alright - but no doubt, it would end up being just like those radar detecters that get turned off cos they beep all the time, like when going past automatic doors etc.

A knock on the roof or drivers door always gets cage drivers attention I have found - mind you, do have to watch out for the swerve when they S*** themselves.....but it's worth it......hahahahha :shake: :ride: :finger:

zooter

9th February 2006, 19:53

Get real. Beep beep beep here's a bike there's a bike evrywhere a bike bike how bloody annoying would that be? Not an option.

Big Dave

9th February 2006, 21:10

A good idea, but half the knobcheeses in the country can't hear jack over their thump thump stereos.

'Knobcheeses'!!!!! bwahahahahah

Shadows

9th February 2006, 22:52

Loud pipes.

mstriumph

9th February 2006, 23:10

that was a PEDESTRIAN SPman, no vehicle for me to wreak havoc on .........

oh, yerse :o - erm - you are right ... i DID kick hell out of his broken leg so i guess that would qualify as 'disadvantaging him transportwise', yerse :corn:

skidMark

9th February 2006, 23:27

the governemnt take enough tax money and acc levis in regos etc... i think they should at least put up some ads....i think we need to send round a petition to get signed or something showing motorcyclists concerns and we just need some ads to make people more aware...

like the ad ....look out at intersections with all the people waiting and then the womens car get hit side on at the end something like that.....where a car pulls out of a driveway in front of a biker and the biker doesnt have time to react ...from a helmet view....

and from a helmet view a car turning infront of you coming from head on and the biker yet again having no where to go and then maybe some side of road camera views....

then saying at the end ...the motorcyclists see you they just need you to see them,

put yourself in thier position...look out for bikes....

i dunno something catchy like that ( sorry i'm not very good at advertising stuff...even though that is something i want to maybe get into) (sick of seeing stupid ad's on tv )

my 2 cents there tell me what ya reckon...

It's not that they look and don't see you.......

It's that they don't bother to look in the first place

Cheers : MA

Cibby

10th February 2006, 11:19

how about all bikes come standard with flame throwers and rocket launchers.

just blast teh cars out of the way.

problem solved ;)

Silage

10th February 2006, 11:28

If we removed the wing mirror from EVERY cage we were next to or passed THEN they would start to notice us and choose to avoid us all the time - problem solved. :lol:

Karma

10th February 2006, 11:54

I reckon it'd be better if we put a couple of wheels on either side of our bikes so that we don't fall over, then maybe get a roof over the top to stop the rain.

Could also get a wind screen to stop the rain hitting our helmets, and how about windows that you can wind up and down whenever you want.

Mind you then we'd need to have somewhere to stash the shopping, and a radio to listen to the latest bassy choons, oh, and air con for when it get's a bit warm?

Grahameeboy

10th February 2006, 11:58

how about all bikes come standard with flame throwers and rocket launchers.

just blast teh cars out of the way.

problem solved ;)

guess you would have this equipment in your passion pad eh??

mstriumph

10th February 2006, 12:47

.................oh, and air con for when it get's a bit warm?

ALL bikes already come with free-flow airconditioning :dodge:

Karma

10th February 2006, 13:01

Yeh but I can't wear my skirt on a bike can I?

snuffles

10th February 2006, 13:44

get loud pipes and an airhorn, it works for me

beyond

10th February 2006, 13:48

When you hit nearly fifty you get very cynical.
The one finger salute is the common reaction you get when some dick head ball's up and it's their fault.

I had a four wheel driver just pull into the right lane heading north at the Bombay to Dury straight without indicating and I hit my horn just to let him know I was there.
Well, he kept coming, I'm on the brakes looking into his rear view mirror at him and him at me and I get the one finger salute.

Well, in his mind it's where the hell did that dog shit come from. He's going to do more damage to me than me to him, so they don't give a dogs bollocks.
Make's you want to kick the shit out of their cage while riding by.