SV1000SK6 brand new for $12,500

[hsvboy06]

Wow, is that a bargain, or what? That's only $500 more than the price of the SV650S. Check out Suzuki's web site:
http://www.suzuki.co.nz/motorcycles/motorcycles.html
And, yes it is real - I've got an email from the m/c sales manager at Suzuki in Wanganui and he said they're on special and selling fast!
Very very tempting...

[justsomeguy]

The SV650S is a great bike but as far as bang for your buck is concerned it SUCKS!!!

It's the same price as a near new 600cc inline four with all the trick bits and the remainder of the factory warranty.

The 1000S makes a lot more sense. I hope you pick it over the 650S.

[James Deuce]

Err JSG have you been smoking crack? The SV650 is $3k-$5k less than the new price on ANY of the inline 4 600s. The Triumph Daytona 675 looks like it will be $17-$18k new.

[skelstar]

Apparently its in response to the Firestorm being at $12500. Not saying its a direct comparision, just saying what I heard.

[Uncle B]

Mate...what a deal.....do it

[justsomeguy]

Err JSG have you been smoking crack? The SV650 is $3k-$5k less than the new price on ANY of the inline 4 600s. The Triumph Daytona 675 looks like it will be $17-$18k new.

Re-read what I posted.

[hsvboy06]

The SV650S is a great bike but as far as bang for your buck is concerned it SUCKS!!!
I'm sure this is one of those things that is personal opinion, but for the record I've read several reviews that said the SV650S was the best bang for your buck on the market. I personally have no idea.


The 1000S makes a lot more sense. I hope you pick it over the 650S.
My original budget was $10K, and I dug a bit deeper to get up to $12K for the 650S, but $14K for the 1000S was just too much. Now, with the special price, perhaps the 1000S is an option. My question is: Is the SV1000S going to kill me? Note that at the mo' I ride a FXR150, and I've only been riding for about 9 months. The 1000 seems one hell of a big step up.

The real killer is that I can't get my full licence for another couple of weeks. (Part of me is seriously tempted to buy the 1000S at that price, without even riding it first, and park it in the garage for a few weeks - if I end up hating it then I could probably sell it for the same price, especially if the RRP goes up again...)

[justsomeguy]

I'm sure this is one of those things that is personal opinion, but for the record I've read several reviews that said the SV650S was the best bang for your buck on the market. I personally have no idea.


If you have to buy brand new then it's hard to beat a SV650S and another $1000 worth of suspension upgrades- it needs it from what I hear.

But if you just want the best value for your $12K, then you have things like this on the market.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=45629782&key=202303

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=47438102&key=202303

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=46956315&key=202303

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=47009649&key=202303

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=47200136&key=202303

Whether or not it will kill you is a question that can only be answered by you after you test ride one properly and see how comfortable you feel.

[Zapf]

Mate.... SV1000S for $12.5k is a good price.... the 1000 has better suspension too, so that is a + over the 650...

and with big twins u can never go too fast... just let go of the throttlo :)

[onearmedbandit]

Needs another $1000 spent on suspension?? What has Suzuki done to make a sports/tourer handle so badly or what are people trying to do with it?

On the same note the K6 thou is being offered for $19990 at our local Suzuki dealer along with the 1000s. Specials on the K6 Hayabusa as well. They are serious about selling bikes.

[justsomeguy]

Needs another $1000 spent on suspension?? What has Suzuki done to make a sports/tourer handle so badly or what are people trying to do with it?

One of the people here who bought one new a few weeks ago says the suspension is very wallowy.

"Another $1000 on the suspension" was from a person here who races them, he reckoned with another $1000 they would be just as good as the jappa 600's in the twisties.

[Zapf]

Needs another $1000 spent on suspension?? What has Suzuki done to make a sports/tourer handle so badly or what are people trying to do with it?

On the same note the K6 thou is being offered for $19990 at our local Suzuki dealer along with the 1000s. Specials on the K6 Hayabusa as well. They are serious about selling bikes.

perhaps something about selling the current stock so they have the $ to buy more stock before NZ Dollar falls more...

[The_Dover]

The SV1000S is a sexy piece of kit and nearly tempted me out of getting the K6. As a second bike or first big bike at that price you'd be a twat not to buy one. They handle, go and stop fuckin well and are pretty nice looking with a set of carbon Micron cans on them. Go for it, and don't pay any heed to JSG. Everyone knows he's a poof.

[hsvboy06]

On the same note the K6 thou is being offered for $19990 at our local Suzuki dealer along with the 1000s.
Are we still talking about the SV?

Edit: Oh, you mean the Gixxer K6 thou?!

[Zapf]

and don't pay any heed to JSG. Everyone knows he's a poof.

Mate... everyone who has ridden the SV650 knows the suspension needs work. What are you on about? (mud flinging starts... everybody put your wets on)

hsvboy06 ..... SV1000 / SV650.... same same but different... think the main thing that you need to get use to is the WEIGHT.

[justsomeguy]

Mate... everyone who has ridden the SV650 knows the suspension needs work. What are you on about?

Nothing, it's 7:30pm - Dover's drunk. Don't feed the pig.

[NinjaBoy]

Is the SV1000S going to kill me? Note that at the mo' I ride a FXR150, and I've only been riding for about 9 months.

Think about it ....20hp vs 116hp after 9 months of riding :blink:

and if you listen to JSG you're stepping up to 136hp. You might as well go check yourself into A+E now.

Go for the SV650, great next step bike ... modern running gear. Get some more saddle time on this then you can decide if you want extreme sportsbike , Sports tourer or something else........

[hsvboy06]

...think the main thing that you need to get use to is the WEIGHT.
Yeah - hopefully it won't blow around like a feather in the breeze...

[justsomeguy]

Think about it ....20hp vs 116hp after 9 months of riding :blink:

and if you listen to JSG you're stepping up to 136hp. You might as well go check yourself into A+E now.

Go for the SV650, great next step bike ... modern running gear. Get some more saddle time on this then you can decide if you want extreme sportsbike , Sports tourer or something else........

136?? - correct me if I'm wrong but I thought the 1000 put out around 11Xhp

Ninja boy makes a fair comment. You may wish to consider something smaller - your money at the end of the day.

Good luck:wavey:

[hsvboy06]

It's quite surprising the number of people who tell me "you'll get tired of the 650 really quick - get the thou; it's a really tame thou anyway". But I'm with NinjaBoy - I've been "driving" a mini and the thou is a Formula 1 car. It's just too scary, and sanity tells me something in between is the sensible next step. From what I've read/heard (I've never ridden anything other than my FXR), a V twin is the "safest" because it's so smooth, and the SV looks pretty awesome IMO.

[Zapf]

V twin is the "safest" because it's so smooth

Ok... I actually OWNEED an SV650 before and have ridden the SV thou and a few bikes in between.

V Twins are not Smooth. V Twins are safe because the moment you let go of the gas it'll slow right down... hence if you are a good Twin rider you won't even use the brakes...

now... get your ass to http://www.m4exhaust.com/products/flash/M4_Exhaust.html and check out the dyno graph between the SV1000 and say a GSXR600. They make the same amount of power.... and Power determins the max speed you can go. Plus the SV will make a heck of a racket getting you to that speed.... it'll be hard for you not to notice. With the GSXR600's / 750's speed can sneak up on you....

just take it easy and get use to the weight (e.g don't drop the bike) and you'll be fine. and you can thank me for choosing the bike with the better factory suspension later.....

sorry if it sounds like I am ranting / or having a go at anyone... just speaking my mind. :laugh:

[The_Dover]

What a pile of wank. I've ridden both and find the thou to be considerably more friendly than the 650. It's not the bike that causes the accident, it's the twat riding it. I know from experience.

A big bike is a big bike and will still fuckin bite you if you provoke it. For the money the thou is a much better option and is a nicer riding experience. And don't just chop the throttle on a V twin cos you can lock the fucker up.

As for the suspension needing work that's a pile of shite. It's not a fuckin race bike, it's a compromise because it's made for the real world.

[ducatilover]

well i know going from a gn250 to a bros650 was a big step and i dont think an sv650 would get boring after an fxr150 anytime soon as you do have to learn that getting a fat from rolling the throttle isnt as good as getting the adrenalin rush of knowing you can use a bike that you arent scared of close to its limit. try the 650 as they should have a good amount of suprise. the sv puts out more power than the bros650 i think so it would be a great next bike. :spudwhat:

[chickenfunkstar]

It's quite surprising the number of people who tell me "you'll get tired of the 650 really quick - get the thou; it's a really tame thou anyway". But I'm with NinjaBoy - I've been "driving" a mini and the thou is a Formula 1 car. It's just too scary, and sanity tells me something in between is the sensible next step. From what I've read/heard (I've never ridden anything other than my FXR), a V twin is the "safest" because it's so smooth, and the SV looks pretty awesome IMO.

I thought the same about a year and a half ago, couldn't be further from the truth.

Zapf is right about the engine braking, you don't really need to brake that much.

The suspension is a bit crap but you can live with it. The only time the it annoys me is on the road from Thames to Coromandel town, but thats a pretty rough piece of road.

Not saying don't get the thousand though, (particularly for that price) just that the 650 is also a really good ride.

[bigbadwolf]

hsvboy06, if you can get a much better bike for much the same price it's not really worth buying the worse one. If you ride it at similar speeds that you ride your fixxer, then gradually work your way up to thrashing it, you will be sweet. I got a 250cc after having never ridden a motorbike before, and mine is really heavy and not too powerful but i still find it pretty scary and I don't push it anywhere near its limits. You will probably do the same if you get the thou.

Or, you could buy a cheaper bike, say a six hundy, and save some money?

Up to you bro. If you like the SV then go for it. It's a farking sexy bike, you've got great taste!

Good luck whatever you decide man, ride safe!

-bigbadwolf

[skelstar]

Will we see you Sunday hsvboy? Nice lazy lax ride with the newbies.

[inlinefour]

I reckon test pilot the lot and then make your own decision. As for the comment of the price of a 600cc IL4, I'm with Jim2 on that one. Reread ya post JSG and still do not agree with it.:oi-grr:

[Dafe]

Hey dude, same thing happened to me 18 months ago.

I walked into the shop looking at the SV650S and then say the thou for an extra 1000 bucks. So I just brought it coz it sounds farkin great in comparison. Two months later, I knew I'd made the right decision. The power of the SV is very controllable and the steering is excellent.
Do not be afraid of the big jump between the 150 to the 1000. Because it is the SV, you will find it will be quite a good jump.
If it was 150 to an inline-4 1000, I'd say think again.
1-2 years on the SV1000S would set you up nicely for any bike in the future.

Can I have a ride when you get it?

Feel free to come riding with myself, skelstar, uncle-b and darkman more often.

Personally I would not consider the 650. The thousand will is the only choice. You'll love the real growl.

[Leong]

I've only been riding since September last year, and with CBTA got my full in January. I paid 10995 for my SV650S as they were clearing stock for the K6. There may still be one for the same price at Holeshot, but if the price difference between the 650 and 1000 was only $500 when I was buying, I would have got the thou.

The SV650S is a great step up from a 250, as they say. Good power, though after 3500km I'm still only using 3/4 throttle cos any more and I'd fall off the back! It'll be some time before I'm using full throttle constantly and wanting more, I think. Hardest to get used to for me was the weight when parking, or "reversing", but if you're more than 175cm and 80kg that won't be an issue. It doesn't get blown around like a smaller bike, and coming from a naked bike, the fairing's great. Handling is great on smooth roads and I'm being fussy about mid corner bumps. It is a very comfortable sports tourer.

If you're a bit older and wiser, (or have wife and kids you love), and the odd thousand dollars matters to you, then get the 1000 now. If you don't have the self control, and have "moments" where you've overcooked it, get the 650 for now, and realise that the extra dollars spent in the long term could save your life. You also get to enjoy the "new bike" experience twice.....Just my 2c

[hsvboy06]

As for the comment of the price of a 600cc IL4, I'm with Jim2 on that one. Reread ya post JSG and still do not agree with it.:oi-grr:
I'm not voting either way, but to be fair JSG did say "near new 600c IL4" - I guess it all depends on your definition of "near".

JSG: I'm interested in what you meant by "all the trick bits" - what would I be missing out on if I bought the SV?

[miSTa]

While a new SV for $12500 is a great price and is worth considering so now are all the near new ones - they've just lost a lot value.

[Dafe]

JSG: I'm interested in what you meant by "all the trick bits" - what would I be missing out on if I bought the SV?

Dude, You ain't gonna be missing out on anything - if you buy an SV1K.
The inline 4's have more go, purely more speed based. But coming off a 150, you really need to get more road handling skills behind you before you begin getting into the speed thing. Best to learn how to ride smoother and wiser before riding fast.
Heaps of Welly riders can ride fast, but only a few of those can ride smooth.

The SV1K is an awesome step up for you. I've seen you ride and I know you're sensible enough to take the time to learn well.

What are you waiting for???? Winter?

[Dafe]

Remember, Buying new will give you a 2 year unlimited kilometre warranty. Enough to keep you safe and sound through to your next bike.

Suzuki Warrantys are transferable though.

[Devil]

I've ridden the entire new SV range and I'll be echoing the main sentiments here.

Do not be scared of the SV1000. Its a very friendly bike. Linear, easy to deal with power. You have to do something pretty stupid for it to bite you. If you can ride with your head you'll be fine. Great torque for pillions. Lovely noise with some scorpion cans!

Buy one, you wont regret it and you wont be missing out on ANYTHING.

[justsomeguy]

JSG: I'm interested in what you meant by "all the trick bits" - what would I be missing out on if I bought the SV?

Most modern inline four 600's like the ones from the trademe ads I posted have better developed or higher quality suspension, brakes and components than the SV650S. You will need to respect their power though. That's why they cost more brand new. However near new they are the same price as the SV 650S - So I would pick them over a 650 - but not over a 1000S.

At 12,500 the SV1000S is very tempting, wish I had the money.

Just to throw an underdog into the mix how about a Hyosung GT 650R $10K brand new. http://www.motoring.co.za/index.php?fArticleId=2839065&fSectionId=918&fSetId=381

[geoffm]

One thing you may want to check is the cost of insurance - 9 months on a bike, straight to a 1000cc - they will nail you on the premiums

[skelstar]

Im old with impecable driving/riding record, 6 months of riding and insurance companies will give $700/yr $500 excess on a 900cc nekid bike.

[Zapf]

Im old with impecable driving/riding record, 6 months of riding and insurance companies will give $700/yr $500 excess on a 900cc nekid bike.

Gee... I wonder what bike are you looking at? RF900? :rolleyes:

[The_Dover]

erm, nekkid RF900? only if I've ridden the fucker.

[cowpoos]

Im old with impecable driving/riding record, 6 months of riding and insurance companies will give $700/yr $500 excess on a 900cc nekid bike.

I'm young with a shit driving record [no insurance claims on crashes of my fault though] I totally hav disclosed all speeding fines,modifications,etc...and I pay less than that....excess is about the same...but premium is $575 full cover...

[The_Dover]

Yeah but you get "special" discounts

[skelstar]

I got my quote through www.kiwibike.co.nz
It was: $671 and $500 excess ($1000 theft).

[mikey]

Think about it ....20hp vs 116hp after 9 months of riding :blink:

and if you listen to JSG you're stepping up to 136hp. You might as well go check yourself into A+E now.

Go for the SV650, great next step bike ... modern running gear. Get some more saddle time on this then you can decide if you want extreme sportsbike , Sports tourer or something else........

i want from a 20hp sack of shit to a 100hp+ sports machines. still alive.an i been riding less than he has.

haven been into a + e for bike related injuries to.

[hsvboy06]

I got my quote through www.kiwibike.co.nz
It was: $671 and $500 excess ($1000 theft).
I just called them and the guy (Dave) was awesome - he would sign me up with Swann for a similar amount. That's allowing for full no claims discount.
The difference between the SV650S insured for $12k and the SV1000S for $12k is $30 per year.

[Grahameeboy]

I love my SV1000SK5.....$60 for cycletreads to up pre-load and suspension much better......

[Devil]

I love my SV1000SK5.....$60 for cycletreads to up pre-load and suspension much better......
Or you could just talk nicely to someone on here!

[Grahameeboy]

Or you could just talk nicely to someone on here!

How nice........Mr Devil Sir:Playnice:

[imdying]

I went from a single 250 four cylinder to a two stroke V4 500, that didn't kill me. I'm guessing that an SV1000 is a lot more friendly than a RZ500 :D

Was mental for a few months, straight from linear power to a torque surge than only gets stronger :)

I do wonder how long those who reckon it needs $1000 on suspension from new have been riding though. Either that or they've got some short memories. New bike standard suspension is waaay better than the crap we used to ride. It's all relative I guess... 'crap' stock SV1000 suspension is probably better than the best gear from yesteryear?

[skelstar]

Thats probably fair comment. I guess a new bike will take a longish while to grow into and find its limit. Its nice to know how much the bike's limit can be extended after you've extended your own. Im assuming thats what the others are getting at.

[Devil]

How nice........Mr Devil Sir:Playnice:
Bah, i'm not attacking ya mate. Just there's plenty of people around here who'll help out.

[Grahameeboy]

Bah, i'm not attacking ya mate. Just there's plenty of people around here who'll help out.

I knowz ewe knowz, just that stupid London humour of mine........he he..catchs some out sometimes

[justsomeguy]

I do wonder how long those who reckon it needs $1000 on suspension from new have been riding though. Either that or they've got some short memories. New bike standard suspension is waaay better than the crap we used to ride. It's all relative I guess... 'crap' stock SV1000 suspension is probably better than the best gear from yesteryear?

I don't want to name names, the guy who I was referring to has been riding for decades and racing for at least a decade. He currently races a SV650.

All suspension complaints were made about the SV650S stock suspension.

[imdying]

I'm guessing that his need to spend a $1000 straight away is a little different from our friend upgrading from his FXR150 then ;)

/edit: Bar faaar more importantly, would you rather have an SV650 with a $1000 suspension upgrade, or a stock SV1000? I'm thinking SV1000, you can always add the suspension further down the track. I'm guessing making the 650 a 1000 is a lot harder (read expensive)

[motobob]

Sonny go with the 650. It will allow you to push the bike and learn some decent riding skills. Having ridden one I think its one fuggin cool bike. It handles real well and if you are a good rider then 95% of the time HP doesn't mean much (unless the other fuckers your chasing are doing 280 KmH plus).
Suspension on the 650 is real good for road stuff and more than passable on a race track. No std road bike suspension is tops for the track anyway.
I have more fun on a 650 than my Thou its just that the Thou fits my ego. :stoogie: You also become a lazy rider because of the extra power. Don't be in too much of a rush to get a bigger bike. If your into speed remember Rossi learn't his trade on small bikes.
All the tossers recommending the SV1000 are a bunch of slow buggers so don't pay any attention to them. :baby:
BTW I've had the misfortune to ride from Kapiti to Wellington so Why the hell do you want anything faster than your 150 when you can only go about 70KmH anyway.

The Bobster
Official trainer to Highersprung Comet Pilots

[Zapf]

Sonny go with the 650.

Sounds like u enjoyed KS's 650 :) but mind you.... u can ride everything fast the way I have seen u ride :)

[terbang]

An SV650 will handle way better than my old (82) GSX400 that I have heaps of fun on..
Havnt ridden the 650 though I have the K51000 and it was a sweet bike.. I went from a Yammy 100 to a RD350 to an H2750 in a period of 6 months and in hind sight maybe the ol H2 was a bit much (still bear the scars) though I was only 16 at the time. However it is what is between your ears that counts and if you use that bit wisely then the 1000 will have more apppeal if you are to carry a pillion.