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scumdog
14th February 2006, 00:03
Hmm, after my thought process being enhanced by a copious application of Bundaberg rum I thought I'd bring up this observation from the H.O.G. rally last weekend.
One of my first thoughts on arriving said rally (my first HOG rally) was " shit there is a lot of new looking jackets, bikes, skin art and studded belts etc around here, what a load of wannabes and posers"
Then I realised that however 'poser' type they seemed to be their heart was in the right place - they could have been doing some other more profitable and 'politically correct' hobby but they chose this, their love (?) of all things H-D related.
Never heard 'other brands' being denigrated, never saw a fight or serious argument and met a shit load of friendly types ( even if they spoke 'proper') and some were no doubt earning 10 times or more of my income - and nobody said 'just a Sportster eh'

800+ bikes went on a 30km+ Thunder Ride, nobody was behaving like a dick, nobody fell off and the public were out big-time to wave and cheer.

Time for another Bundy.

Karma
14th February 2006, 00:05
Battenburg?

scumdog
14th February 2006, 00:09
Battenburg?

You mean there's TWO types of rum????

Karma
14th February 2006, 00:21
Battenburg

scumdog
14th February 2006, 00:34
Battenburg

That's a rum? How do you pour it??

Ixion
14th February 2006, 00:36
Neopolitan Slice and Lambes Naval, for me

Is this going to be another recipe exchange thread ?

scumdog
14th February 2006, 00:39
You mean all you lot are more concerned with FOOD than Harley posers?
Ah well, all must be well with the motorcycle world - and no wonder there are so many fat bastards riding bikes these days.:wacko:

idb
14th February 2006, 00:51
You mean all you lot are more concerned with FOOD than Harley posers?
Ah well, all must be well with the motorcycle world - and no wonder there are so many fat bastards riding bikes these days.:wacko:
Don't worry SD.
I still think they're plonkers.
Instead of wasting their money on Harley brand underwear and nailclippers, why not sponsor a child in Somalia or build a penguin breeding box?

I on the other hand have no spare money cos it's all going into that f*cking useless piece of shit parked under my bedroom that still refuses to go!!!!!!!!!!
Better now.

Karma
14th February 2006, 00:53
I on the other hand have no spare money cos it's all going into that f*cking useless piece of shit parked under my bedroom that still refuses to go!!!!!!!!!!
Better now.

Woman problems? Or is the gimp acting up again?

idb
14th February 2006, 00:55
Woman problems? Or is the gimp acting up again?
The gimp hmmm, I don't normally name my bikes but...............

scumdog
14th February 2006, 01:01
Don't worry SD.
I still think they're plonkers.
Instead of wasting their money on Harley brand underwear and nailclippers, why not sponsor a child in Somalia or build a penguin breeding box?

I on the other hand have no spare money cos it's all going into that f*cking useless piece of shit parked under my bedroom that still refuses to go!!!!!!!!!!
Better now.

You mean it is possible to buy H-D brand Y-fronts AND nailclippers??

Well shove me on a Harely and call me Dennis!! And here am I wasting my money on Screaming Eagle gizmos and other such friperies!

buellbabe
14th February 2006, 05:57
Good Observation Scumdog. I always think the same thing as well but then get talking and drinking and make new friends. I have come to the conclusion that "we're all on bikes so what does it matter if some of us have been doing it longer and harder!" Bet ya had a great time! :woohoo: :beer:

Mental Trousers
14th February 2006, 11:55
But the question on everybodies mind is what was the tassle/non-tassle ratio??

scumdog
14th February 2006, 12:00
But the question on everybodies mind is what was the tassle/non-tassle ratio??

About 14.85% had tassles (give or take about .003 percent margin of error)

DMNTD
14th February 2006, 12:04
...Then I realised that however 'poser' type they seemed to be their heart was in the right place...
Never heard 'other brands' being denigrated, never saw a fight or serious argument and met a shit load of friendly types ( even if they spoke 'proper') and some were no doubt earning 10 times or more of my income - and nobody said 'just a Sportster eh'
800+ bikes went on a 30km+ Thunder Ride, nobody was behaving like a dick, nobody fell off and the public were out big-time to wave and cheer.


Sounds like a good meeting/run to me. There are posers either side of the sport/cruiser fence and it's always good to meet what I deem as "real riders"...non judgemental on your ride and capiblities. :niceone:

miSTa
14th February 2006, 12:23
About 14.85% had tassles (give or take about .003 percent margin of error)


:rofl: You and your tassles, I think we have a slight obsession don't we SD? :rofl:

Korea
14th February 2006, 12:52
Back to the Battenburg: Was there also a nice hot cup'a tea to go with the neopolitan lamington thingee? I like tea with my H.O.G rally.

But what I really want to say is: How come every HD rider looks like a clone of every other HD rider I've ever seen in my life? The ubiquitous leather chaps, leather waistcoat, gnarly beards (and that's just the women). It's like the HD rider can shell out $40k+ on the bike alone, and then aims to dress all "Dereleeect" (Zoolander) like they sleep in a dumpster. "Spent me clothing allowance on the bike mate."

But then I guess HD riders look at sportbike riders who wear the full-leather gimp suit and probably think they're all clones too, eh?

Ah, please yourselves. Each to their own.

buellbabe
14th February 2006, 13:26
But then I guess HD riders look at sportbike riders who wear the full-leather gimp suit and probably think they're all clones too, eh?


ahhh... yep

but like ya said, each to their own eh ;-)

scumdog
14th February 2006, 13:47
Yup, each to their own - but just wait until I get a sprotsbike, I'll show some REAL class by continuing to wear my black leathers with tassles!:2thumbsup

Grahameeboy
14th February 2006, 13:53
Yup, each to their own - but just wait until I get a sprotsbike, I'll show some REAL class by continuing to wear my black leathers with tassles!:2thumbsup

yeah but isn't that normal street wear down your way anyway!!!:apumpin:

Cookie
14th February 2006, 13:54
I like your observation scumdog. I think "Poser" is often shorthand for "Someone with a better bike and/or job than me", and the term exposes more about the insecurities of the person using the term, than the supposed insecurities of the alleged poser themselves.

I won't have any time for this classification of humans until someone finds genetic markers for "Poserism".

scumdog
14th February 2006, 13:56
yeah but isn't that normal street wear down your way anyway!!!:apumpin:

Only for the wealthy!! - you know, the ones who can afford cars with overhead valves and radial tyres, and motorbikes with more than one cylinder..

Grahameeboy
14th February 2006, 13:59
Only for the wealthy!! - you know, the ones who can afford cars with overhead valves and radial tyres, and motorbikes with more than one cylinder..

must be the guys who work in the Warehouse then........the class system gets everywhere eh?

enigma51
14th February 2006, 14:01
Hmm, after my thought process being enhanced by a copious application of Bundaberg rum I thought I'd bring up this observation from the H.O.G. rally last weekend.
One of my first thoughts on arriving said rally (my first HOG rally) was " shit there is a lot of new looking jackets, bikes, skin art and studded belts etc around here, what a load of wannabes and posers"
Then I realised that however 'poser' type they seemed to be their heart was in the right place - they could have been doing some other more profitable and 'politically correct' hobby but they chose this, their love (?) of all things H-D related.
Never heard 'other brands' being denigrated, never saw a fight or serious argument and met a shit load of friendly types ( even if they spoke 'proper') and some were no doubt earning 10 times or more of my income - and nobody said 'just a Sportster eh'

800+ bikes went on a 30km+ Thunder Ride, nobody was behaving like a dick, nobody fell off and the public were out big-time to wave and cheer.

Time for another Bundy.

One of the big bosses at work was there with his wife. (Lets just say I work for one of the bigger companies in NZ) and spoke to him today about it and he said it was a good weekend and did not have to hide as only his close friends knew what he does for living which is realy nice

scumdog
14th February 2006, 14:06
One of the big bosses at work was there with his wife. (Lets just say I work for one of the bigger companies in NZ) and spoke to him today about it and he said it was a good weekend and did not have to hide as only his close friends knew what he does for living which is realy nice

Works for me too, well until one of the group blurts out something like "you cops are all the same" - THAT gets heads swiveling!! :shit:

tracyprier
14th February 2006, 14:33
Whoorrrrrrr! Radial tyres!!... rich bastards eh?

"thou shalt wring thy cap in presence 'o boss"



Sounds like a good meeting/run to me. There are posers either side of the sport/cruiser fence and it's always good to meet what I deem as "real riders"...non judgemental on your ride and capiblities. :niceone:

Motu
14th February 2006, 14:37
I like the - ''I've been riding bikes all my life (4 years,weekends only),30 yrs of drugs and alcohol,and look what they've done to my body (they really do look absolutly fucked),their arms and dicks are covered in tatoos,and ''my bike is my life mate,I live to ride'' Standing next to a $30,000 bike and they haven't worked a day since they were 16.

They look down their nose at me in my dayglo dirt gear on a 2 stroke dirt bike - it's all I can afford and I've owned my own business for 10 years,working 70 hr weeks without a holiday.I've probably seen more of the lifestyle they are presenting - but I've moved on,continued to grow in my motorcycling experiance.

I hope they all get back saftely - I have a car here waiting for it's owner to get back from the HOG rally,and I want my money!

Bonez
14th February 2006, 14:40
Glad you had a good time SD. Wondered why the North Island seemed a bit lighter.........................

pritch
14th February 2006, 15:57
Is this going to be another recipe exchange thread ?


You mean I missed one already? :-)

mr me
14th February 2006, 17:40
Not all hd owners are plonkers,there are some good ones out there.We all ride bikes so who cares what it is.:wari:

Ixion
14th February 2006, 17:42
About 14.85% had tassles (give or take about .003 percent margin of error)

But how many had skull masks ?

SPman
14th February 2006, 18:22
Battenburg

Battenburg.....mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

washed down with a Galbraiths Pilsener..........

MD
14th February 2006, 19:07
Good observation scumdog and I have noticed more HD riders seem to wave these days- and not with one or two fingers extended.
But I still find it a laugh to see some of these rich blokes on expensive Harleys with pristine riding leathers still smelling all fresh from the shop, with perfect creases, that have never had a bug splat. How can that be? Still as you say they could be doing worse and they are supporting our fav industry.
Always remember the surprise on a tough Guy HD rider's face when I stopped to help him when he had broken down in the wilds. Why did you stop he asked.

Scouse
14th February 2006, 19:09
Hmm, after my thought process being enhanced by a copious application of Bundaberg rum I thought I'd bring up this observation from the H.O.G. rally last weekend.
One of my first thoughts on arriving said rally (my first HOG rally) was " shit there is a lot of new looking jackets, bikes, skin art and studded belts etc around here, what a load of wannabes and posers"
Then I realised that however 'poser' type they seemed to be their heart was in the right place - they could have been doing some other more profitable and 'politically correct' hobby but they chose this, their love (?) of all things H-D related.
Never heard 'other brands' being denigrated, never saw a fight or serious argument and met a shit load of friendly types ( even if they spoke 'proper') and some were no doubt earning 10 times or more of my income - and nobody said 'just a Sportster eh'

800+ bikes went on a 30km+ Thunder Ride, nobody was behaving like a dick, nobody fell off and the public were out big-time to wave and cheer.

Time for another Bundy.
Oh have you only got a sportster I didn't realise LoL



Just jokin scumdog

miSTa
14th February 2006, 20:55
I believe the right term for a lot of Harley (and some non-Harley) riders is "poseur" - a person who habitually pretends to be something he is not

Oscar
14th February 2006, 21:12
:rofl:
About 14.85% had tassles (give or take about .003 percent margin of error)

Did you know that 87.3% of statistics are made up on the spot?

























And that's up 13% from last year.....

HenryDorsetCase
15th February 2006, 10:38
Good Observation Scumdog. I always think the same thing as well but then get talking and drinking and make new friends. I have come to the conclusion that "we're all on bikes so what does it matter if some of us have been doing it longer and harder!" Bet ya had a great time! :woohoo: :beer:

bling for you.

A friend of mine went down, he is the classic born again biker, hit 50, bought a Fat Boy (he is quite a big lad too). He said he was initially a bit nervous, but ended up having a GREAT time. He also commented on the large amount of HD branding going on. Apparently he was one of the few without any.

scumdog
15th February 2006, 10:46
bling for you.

A friend of mine went down, he is the classic born again biker, hit 50, bought a Fat Boy (he is quite a big lad too). He said he was initially a bit nervous, but ended up having a GREAT time. He also commented on the large amount of HD branding going on. Apparently he was one of the few without any.

Hmm, had a look at my gear - one small 'Sportster' badge on my jacket lapel, one small H-D badge (along with a shit-load of other random badges, Britten, Ford, N.Z.D.A. etc) on my denim vest.

Oh. My 'shorty' helmet but you have to look hard.

So I guess I lag a bit when it comes to H-D branding?.:scratch:

scumdog
15th February 2006, 10:47
But how many had skull masks ?

Only one other - and it was an Aussie one, different to mine;)

HenryDorsetCase
15th February 2006, 10:48
So I guess I lag a bit when it comes to H-D branding?.:scratch:

in a good way or a bad way?

buellbabe
15th February 2006, 10:50
HD is a HUGE Brand. Friends of mine have personally met Willie G and own autographed waistcoats, jkts you name it! I love Harleys but don't feel the need to advertise it all over my clothing! What I ride says it for me.
Next year its in Akld and hope to meet ya there Scumdog! Rashika is gonna come up for it ( well she blimmin better or there'll be trouble ). Hey did ya get a complimentary poster advertising the Akld Rally? I am responsible for that!

scumdog
15th February 2006, 10:51
in a good way or a bad way?

Dunno. Bad if I want to be 'trendy'. Good if I don't want to be seen as a poseur.
Never been one who wants to keep up with the Jones's or thought too much about my appearance, maybe I need to look at myself a bit harder????:weep:

Bonez
15th February 2006, 14:51
Never been one who wants to keep up with the Jones's or thought too much about my appearance, maybe I need to look at myself a bit harder????:weep:
What no full length mirror in the bike storage area?

idb
15th February 2006, 14:58
What no full length mirror in the bike storage area?
I have, so I can sit on the f*ckin thing in my leathers, look at myself and go :bleh: which is the closest I can get to riding it at the moment!!

Better now.

Bonez
15th February 2006, 17:57
I have, so I can sit on the f*ckin thing in my leathers, look at myself and go :bleh: which is the closest I can get to riding it at the moment!!

Better now.And what, may I ask, is wrong with the 750?

Or does'nt it match your riding attire?

idb
15th February 2006, 18:59
And what, may I ask, is wrong with the 750?

Or does'nt it match your riding attire?
Erm.......it's in several hundred bits at mo.
I'm an incurable tinkerer I'm afraid.

Bonez
15th February 2006, 19:09
Erm.......it's in several hundred bits at mo.
I'm an incurable tinkerer I'm afraid.Same here lol. Just got word my "new" dohc 750 engine on it's way. First job is retrieve a cam chain tensioner bolt that's fallen down the cam chain well, it least I was told about it.

idb
15th February 2006, 21:18
Same here lol. Just got word my "new" dohc 750 engine on it's way. First job is retrieve a cam chain tensioner bolt that's fallen down the cam chain well, it least I was told about it.
I had mine re-bored to 820 (I think) and I reassembled the top end myself.
For some reason I didn't seal the rubber stoppers under the cam holders as I have done every other time (they've hardened a bit with age as they do) and they predictably leaked.
So I took it all apart after prolly less than 100ks and have never got around to putting it back together again.
One day.
Then I've got the B50 that I pulled apart...................

R1madness
16th February 2006, 09:02
Well here is an observation from a long time rider.

I brought a new set of GENUINE YAMAHA kevlar/cordura riding gear. It matches my R1. I have retired my old leather jacket to a hanging display (in the hall cupboard) for use on slow ride days (its 25 years old so the stiching is weak now). My one piece is covered in crash damage from years gone by. My zip together 2 piece is for really fast days and trips to Akaroa.

Do poeple think i am a poser? A new rider? Rich? A snob? A poof?

Just because my gear is nice and tidy when i am out doesn't make me any of those things. I just like the look and feel of newish gear. I feel safer and that makes me faster and safer.

Those HOG riders were all about 45-65 i would guess. Does that mean that they should all use their old gear even though they have replaced it recently when they financed their new ride? Several shops help riders into new gear when they buy a NEW bike.
Let me ask --- Did you get offered a discount on a new helmet when you brought your last NEW bike from a shop? Did you take them up on the offer? Do you use the new lid on your bike? Are YOU a poser?

buellbabe
16th February 2006, 09:21
Guess I'm a poser cos I bought a Joe Rocket overseas and I'm damn proud of the fact that I am highly unlikely to see someone else in the same jkt... same goes for my Alpine Stars... bought overseas and not a style that is stocked here. The last time i was in a Bike Shop I was asked if I had had it specially made!:2thumbsup

Grahameeboy
16th February 2006, 09:29
Guess I'm a poser cos I bought a Joe Rocket overseas and I'm damn proud of the fact that I am highly unlikely to see someone else in the same jkt... same goes for my Alpine Stars... bought overseas and not a style that is stocked here. The last time i was in a Bike Shop I was asked if I had had it specially made!:2thumbsup

Is it red and white with a left handed zip......like mine ......:Oi:

Rashika
16th February 2006, 09:36
But what I really want to say is: How come every HD rider looks like a clone of every other HD rider I've ever seen in my life? The ubiquitous leather chaps, leather waistcoat, gnarly beards (and that's just the women).
sounds a bit like 75% of the riders I know...and a lot of them aint on HDs
and yeah of course the other 25% are wearing race leathers.
Altho in reality, just how much choice is there anyway? Its either black leather or coloured leather, isn't it?


forgetting all the wooses in their cordura of course!!:dodge:

buellbabe
16th February 2006, 09:37
Is it red and white with a left handed zip......like mine ......:Oi:
The Joe Rocket is Black, Silver and White with front zip, and it is a girls jkt so it fits nice. The Alpine Stars is Silver and very girly with hard-to-describe kind-of plaited bits, not tassles but as close to as an AS jkt would ever get... Both have protective armour also...

Rashika
16th February 2006, 09:39
But how many had skull masks ?
I'm bloody sure i saw you on the Tv news, Scumdog....def saw a scullmask right at the end of the clip, it was a 2 up bike as well.
Unless there really ARE a whole lot more of those masks around? :lol: shit I HOPE not!

buellbabe
16th February 2006, 09:46
I'm bloody sure i saw you on the Tv news, Scumdog....def saw a scullmask right at the end of the clip, it was a 2 up bike as well.
Unless there really ARE a whole lot more of those masks around? :lol: shit I HOPE not!
bad news for Scumdog... theres heaps of them around!

Grahameeboy
16th February 2006, 09:48
The Joe Rocket is Black, Silver and White with front zip, and it is a girls jkt so it fits nice. The Alpine Stars is Silver and very girly with hard-to-describe kind-of plaited bits, not tassles but as close to as an AS jkt would ever get... Both have protective armour also...

Nice....I have those funny platey bits too......maybe it is a protective bra and I have the girls one.....arh.....who cares I like my jacket too.....got armour as well....keeps Mr Poos at bay...just :msn-wink: :msn-wink:

idb
16th February 2006, 10:24
I believe the right term for a lot of Harley (and some non-Harley) riders is "poseur" - a person who habitually pretends to be something he is not
Only a poser says "poseur".

scumdog
16th February 2006, 10:56
Only a poser says "poseur".

Quite right idb - frickin' spelling show-offs!!:rofl:

scumdog
16th February 2006, 10:59
I'm bloody sure i saw you on the Tv news, Scumdog....def saw a scullmask right at the end of the clip, it was a 2 up bike as well.
Unless there really ARE a whole lot more of those masks around? :lol: shit I HOPE not!

Yeah, as per my post earlier, there was one other, a bit different to mine (after all, I bought MY one at Sturgis -sniff, snifff!!) and as B.B. says, there's a few in this country, quite a few are printed on t-shirt type material that pulls over your head like a sleeve.

But how many skull mask wearers also wear tassles eh? :headbang:

buellbabe
16th February 2006, 11:01
But how many skull mask wearers also wear tassles eh? :headbang:

LOL so you've got the is he or is she?? thing going on...
Heard about guys like you...

scumdog
16th February 2006, 11:04
LOL so you've got the is he or is she?? thing going on...
Heard about guys like you...

Oh yeah baby???:blip: :blip:

buellbabe
16th February 2006, 11:08
yes indeedy... and BTW doesn't it suck when you buy something cool overseas and then all these cloned imitations surface???

oldrider
16th February 2006, 12:59
My wife and I were off to Ruby Bay Nelson for a family get together the same W/E as the Hog rally in Dunedin.
We were going on our little bike of course but I had a "mini" stroke the day before leaving so had to go by car.
All the way up, there were HD riders for Africa, every where we stopped or looked.
They were all good guys and girls too, no bullshit, easy to talk to, even to a limp old cager just lookin at the bikes.
The same thing all the way home via the West Coast, Hawea and the Lindis Pass.
Good on them I hope they all enjoyed their rally, Posers and all. Still a bit of a poser myself, given the chance. :cool: Cheers John.

miSTa
16th February 2006, 13:37
Only a poser says "poseur".

Quite right idb - frickin' spelling show-offs!!:rofl:

:Oi: You two behave yourselves :Playnice:

Rashika
16th February 2006, 13:52
We were going on our little bike of course but I had a "mini" stroke the day before leaving so had to go by car.
What the hell do you mean by having a "mini stroke" ??? :spudwhat:
Gees mate...dont give me shock like that :oi-grr:
Hope you are okay?

oldrider
16th February 2006, 14:21
What the hell do you mean by having a "mini stroke" ??? :spudwhat:
Gees mate...dont give me shock like that :oi-grr:
Hope you are okay?
All OK now but got a bit of a fright. Must have had a little clot behind the eyes, all went black for 15mins then cleared up.
Think it might have been embarrassing if it happened again in some wriggly bit of road or something, so took the car. (Mrs O/R drove)
Have been checked out, all OK now. Thanks for concern. Cheers John.