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Fenix
2nd April 2004, 12:43
Disclaimer: Yeah, yeah, don't spend too much on your first bike and so on, I getcha.
Aside from that, what do you guys think of the GSX250s? Any good? Im looking at getting a new (2004 :yes: )one for around $6k.
Also, how much should I be budgeting for a complete set of gear? I was originally thinking $1k, but it seems that $1k might cover a 2piece. :Oops:
Any advice, except to spend less on my first bike, would be greatly apreciated. :P
White trash
2nd April 2004, 12:56
Welcome, fenix. :spudwave:
GSX250 is a great first bike. Go for your life!
750Y
2nd April 2004, 13:06
get your gear off the net.
Cajun
2nd April 2004, 14:45
gsx250 good little bike for a parallal twin, look like a big bike go pretty good.
Gear of $1k arn't to bad price, but not gonna cut it if you wanna buy more expensive sorta gear you will need to raise that.
you don't need a 2 piece race suit for your first bit of gear, yeah it be nice, but not always suitable. but it all depends on ya budget
bane
2nd April 2004, 17:40
had a really good look at a GSX250 (in the end no go because dealer wouldnt give me enough for the FXR).
Good stuff:
good full size bike
comfy
reasonable brakes
stable in cross winds
v.good price for a new bike, and good resale value
the not so good...
porker for a 250 (186kg!)
not as fast as it looks (not that it looks that fast)
front screen flimsy and looks naff
pointless tacked on, hard to read gear indicator
But overall, I think they are a great buy, and a safe bet compared to a 10yr old jap import 250 (no offence intended to those that have these :apint:
Fenix
2nd April 2004, 22:14
Thanks. :) I'll have to look more extensively at the gear, been doing most of my research over the net, and I might be riding as early as the school holidays. :D
Timber020
3rd April 2004, 01:34
It cant be that heavy! my old GSXR is lighter than that!
marty
3rd April 2004, 06:15
i took one for a ride the other day, a friend is looking to buy one and she wanted it looked at. it was brand new (2 kms on the clock) and i did about 100kms on it.
it was ok, no adjust on the rear suspension. seat was a bit hard - had to get off after 30k and stretch. it always sounded like i was wringing it's neck - it cruised at 100-110 easily, but revving at 9000rpm? all the vibes coming back through the seat, all the road bumps being transmitted, just made for a very busy ride. wind protection was excellent though, and 2-up it rode ok, although the rear suspension was working overtime, and it bounced around a bit.
there is going to be further price reductions on these bikes - they simply have too many of them. i don't think the resale will be that flash either. i saw a 2003 with 8000k in the autotrader for $4500 a couple of weeks ago. the pic of the gsx i have added below is off bikepoint - new with 2kms for $4995
http://www.bikepoint.co.nz/market/UsedBikeDetail.asp?BikeID=92351&Year=2002
i also took a second hand 2002 vtr250 honda for a blast. completely different bike. no rev counter, but 2 up easily cruised at 100-120. adjustable suspension, really comfy seat. instilled much more confidence than the gsx, i rode the same test course, and probably did it 5 minutes quicker, and in much more comfort. 1000% better build quality, and for similar money - the vt is my recommendation. sure they're $8 grand new, but i know which i'd be happier with.
bane
3rd April 2004, 18:40
Agree the Honda is the better bike - although no tach is a bit cheap :bash:
Just checked my GSX250 brochure, 185kg dry!
I think this the biggest difference between the VTR and the GSX 137kg vs 185kg... the suzi's suspension and engine has to work that much harder.
Marty, how much was that 2nd hand vtr going 4?
wkid_one
3rd April 2004, 20:08
You sure it is 186? My VTR 1000 only weighed 194 dry......
bane
3rd April 2004, 20:13
You sure it is 186? My VTR 1000 only weighed 194 dry......
I double swear on it. Got the official brouchure in my hand - 185kg dry... as I said, porker for a 250
Two Smoker
3rd April 2004, 20:18
Shit no wonder it isnt fast, compare it to older 250 whiz bangs that wieghed like 140-150kgs dry, and then my little bike which weighs 126kgs dry hehe (tiny bike aye?)
Have you ridden it yet to compare to anything???
Posh Tourer :P
4th April 2004, 07:30
You sure it is 186? My VTR 1000 only weighed 194 dry......
The fairing and all other bits should be roughly equal in weight. A 1000cc bike has only 750cc more air space in it....
Its not the size of the engine that makes the weight its all the accessories, and the amount of money put in to make them light (read not much for a 250). This follows where my 650 beemer weighs the same as a 1000cc naked beemer, while the R100RS weighs about 30kg more
wkid_one
4th April 2004, 08:00
Just for everyones interest
SPECIFICATIONS: GSX250 Suzuki Thunder
Model Thunder GSX 250
Engine Type 4 Stroke Air CooledOHC 4 Valve
Piston Displacement 249 cc.
Bore x Stroke 72.0 mm. x 61.2 mm.
Compression Ratio 9.0 : 1
Carburator MIKUNI BSR 32 SS
Gear System 5 Speed Constant Mesh
Clutch System Multi Plate Wet Clutch
Ignition System -
Starter System Electric & Kick Start.
Suspension System -
Brake System Front: disk brake
Rear: drum brake
Dry Weight 132 kg
Didn't think 186kg was correct - no way in hell a 250 should weigh that much ever.
MacD
4th April 2004, 10:07
SPECIFICATIONS: GSX250 Suzuki Thunder
Model Thunder GSX 250
Brake System Front: disk brake
Rear: drum brake
Dry Weight 132 kg
Didn't think 186kg was correct - no way in hell a 250 should weigh that much ever.
Sure that's the same bike Wkid?
The Suzuki Summerfest brochure refers to the GSX250 Invader and the bike in the picture has a rear disc brake.
The GSX250 seems to have disappeared from Suzuki NZ's website also...I guess its a run out model now?
bane
4th April 2004, 10:35
Just for everyones interest
SPECIFICATIONS: GSX250 Suzuki Thunder
Model Thunder GSX 250
Engine Type 4 Stroke Air CooledOHC 4 Valve
Piston Displacement 249 cc.
Bore x Stroke 72.0 mm. x 61.2 mm.
Compression Ratio 9.0 : 1
Carburator MIKUNI BSR 32 SS
Gear System 5 Speed Constant Mesh
Clutch System Multi Plate Wet Clutch
Ignition System -
Starter System Electric & Kick Start.
Suspension System -
Brake System Front: disk brake
Rear: drum brake
Dry Weight 132 kg
Didn't think 186kg was correct - no way in hell a 250 should weigh that much ever.
Hey wkid_one - agree with MacD
Bike is GSX250 "Invader"
2 cylinder inline, 4-stroke, DOHC, air cooled
Bore x Stroke: 57 x 48.8mm
Front and rear disc
185kg dry
Just done the math, given those bore and stroke measurements, the Thunder must be a single, not a twin...
Fenix
4th April 2004, 11:06
I've seen it called both the GSX250 and the GSX250 Invader, but never thunder.
No, I haven't had a chance to actually ride it yet, transport over in auckland is kinda difficult as I have a 1/2hr ferry ride to downtown and no vehics over there. I will soon, fingers crossed.
Only reason I'm not too interested in that Honda is 'cause its a nekked street. I much prefer proper streets. :bleh: But I suppose I should really consider any sugestions. If anyone knew another 250 like the honda but not nekked, I'd greatly apreciate hearing of it.
Two Smoker
4th April 2004, 11:11
I guess there is a plus of buying it if you still get the warranty, but you can get a pretty mint early 90's 250cc for that price with lows k's on the clock... Have you looked around???? Is there a reason you dont want one????
Fenix
4th April 2004, 13:20
My main thing was I wanted a high resale. If I can keep my first bike ok, and its a recent year, I might be able to sell it to afford a decent older >250. My parents are buying me my first bike, so I can pretty much get away with anything around or below $6k. I'd consider anything, but I really want something that won't cost much to keep running, i.e. not having to fix it up to get my WoF and stuff.
I pay for everything after its on-road, as it is to facilitate me getting a job. Less upkeep = more spending money. And more money into my >250.
But I have very little knowledge about bikes, I've only been looking at them a while, so advice is welcome.
georgedubyabush
4th April 2004, 13:41
How about a newish Kawasaki gpx250?
Kiwirider's review about a year and a half ago seemed better for the kawasaki than the Suzuki.
They might only come in bright yellow though?
Fenix
4th April 2004, 16:44
CBR250RRs and such look pretty good, but my main problem with them is that all the CBRs and such sell for the same as the GSX and are early 90s. I'd really prefer a later model bike, but it seems that I may have to settle for an earlier model with much better performance and quality. Woe is me. :P Anyway, I'm still looking.
Hitcher
4th April 2004, 18:24
The best new 250 on the market is the Honda VTR250, without doubt or even a close second! There are some grey import versions around that have a tach. In the second-hand market go for a Spada or a Yamaha Zeal (I have a Zeal for sale, by the way...). Don't believe me, Google them and see the reviews for yourself. My Zeal eats GSX250s, and that's with 100+kg of me on board!
marty
4th April 2004, 20:04
there's no way the sooz 250 weighed 132 dry. it was PORKY. no where near as easy to wheel about as the RS, and i think that's pretty light.
wkid_one
4th April 2004, 20:15
Gotta agree - the VTR is the best two fiddy around for ride....was reco'ed by Two Wheels when they did a 250 review in Oz last year.
If you want hell fun - get the RS250
Posh Tourer :P
4th April 2004, 20:33
I've seen it called both the GSX250 and the GSX250 Invader, but never thunder.
No, I haven't had a chance to actually ride it yet, transport over in auckland is kinda difficult as I have a 1/2hr ferry ride to downtown and no vehics over there. I will soon, fingers crossed.
Only reason I'm not too interested in that Honda is 'cause its a nekked street. I much prefer proper streets. :bleh: But I suppose I should really consider any sugestions. If anyone knew another 250 like the honda but not nekked, I'd greatly apreciate hearing of it.
Any particular reason you like "proper streets" better?
Two Smoker
4th April 2004, 20:42
I would think that a proper street was naked..... or semi naked..... but i thought a racing bike/proper road bike was full faired?????? but everyone seems to be doing the naked thing...... because its "retro".... hhmm meh i would rather have a nicer bike to ride than a nice looking bike that is shit to ride... hence go for a early 90's 250 with low k's for about 6 grand........ will still be great to ride look good and last for more than you will need it...... :niceone:
Fenix
4th April 2004, 20:52
My bad, I may be completly wrong in calling them naked and proper. Or even street. Sorry. The naked thing just looks very similar to cruiser to me, and I thought street was sorta linked to sport rather than cruiser. I always manage to cross a wire or two so nevermind me. :Oops:
And the reason I like them is purely that I think they look cool and, really, I won't get over 140km/h on waiheke except for very unusual circumstances on the strip, but I still wouldn't mind getting a performer so when I do come over to auck I can actually move a bit. Roads are ok, but way too much up/down/left/right to be able to pull out too much speed.
Fenix
4th April 2004, 20:58
Right now I am conclusively looking at Zeals, GSXs and unspecified *cough*aprilia*cough* others.
Two Smoker
4th April 2004, 20:59
My bad, I may be completly wrong in calling them naked and proper. Or even street. Sorry. The naked thing just looks very similar to cruiser to me, and I thought street was sorta linked to sport rather than cruiser. I always manage to cross a wire or two so nevermind me. :Oops:
And the reason I like them is purely that I think they look cool and, really, I won't get over 140km/h on waiheke except for very unusual circumstances on the strip, but I still wouldn't mind getting a performer so when I do come over to auck I can actually move a bit. Roads are ok, but way too much up/down/left/right to be able to pull out too much speed.LOL its not your bad :niceone: i wasnt trying to flame your post :niceone: i understand where you were coming from..... stuff the straights, its the corners where want to be, so the more left right up and down the better.....
But yeah i still reakon early 90's 250, because ive seen them going for about $4500 at least with 40000km the clock, so dont worry about the resale value :niceone:
Posh Tourer :P
4th April 2004, 21:25
Naked is cheaper when you bin it...... :doh: :angry:
dart1202
26th July 2007, 16:04
i have buy gsx250 but what kine of this machine version of gsx250.
Freakshow
26th July 2007, 16:48
The GSX250 was my first bike and I was quite happy about it. Yes it was heavy for a 250 and maybe it wasn't that fast but man could you thrash it! I am happy that was my first bike. I suggest removing the gear indicator as I relied on mine too much and the bulbs keep blowing anyway.
neo5365
26th July 2007, 17:37
I sold my GSX250 after 2 weeks of learner riding...its easily to get bored with...then I got my cbr250rr
koba
26th July 2007, 19:24
FUCK i just wrote bout 2 pages on my GSX250, clarification of models and what goes wrong withe them, comparisons to other 250s I know well and... Poo bugger bum fart wees It took so long I got auto logged out and pressed the back button 2 much and lost it all!
koba
26th July 2007, 19:40
Ok here goes trying again, Prob broken into smaller chunks tho!
First, the confusion over models
The current GSX250 is the "Invader" This will be what the 2004 one
250 oilcooled twin, monoshock rear. the one most of us here know as a GSX250.
Its the fat bitch one, 179 dry by my manual, but could very well be 186 or whatever.
There was an old one, probably this "thunder"
one 250 Aircoold twin with Dualshock rear end.
Also There has been the GSX250 KATANA, don know if sold new in NZ but I have seen them here. 4cyl Watercooled (maybe GSXR250 based) Twinshock KATANA style frame and fairing.
There was also the GSX250 "Across" another 4cyl watercooled with monoshock rear. It had an awesome helmet holder luggage compartment where the fuel tank normally sits, and tank I think was below seat. Very Close To Late 80's steel frame GSXR250.
I think bandit 250s are GSF250. Also often confused with GSX250s
They are tubeframe naked with another version of the Waterpumping 250 4.
Used as stressed member so the head has mounting lugs and also has different inlet/carb setup for more naked style power delivery.
Later models 40hp restricted. There are very new ones of these hanging about.
mat1138
26th July 2007, 19:45
The best new 250 on the market is the Honda VTR250, without doubt or even a close second! There are some grey import versions around that have a tach. In the second-hand market go for a Spada or a Yamaha Zeal (I have a Zeal for sale, by the way...). Don't believe me, Google them and see the reviews for yourself. My Zeal eats GSX250s, and that's with 100+kg of me on board!
How much do you think a Honda Spada with kms in the high 30k range is worth?
koba
26th July 2007, 20:01
If you do get a GSX 250 go for 15 tooth front sprocket and they sound good with an unrestricted exhaust. My best one Is 1145mm Long...
All bikes are a compromise with price, intended fuction and style/consumer preference.
I Recommend a GSX250 over other bikes if you are huge and/or intend chalking up lots and lots of kilometers.
Ive done 1000km days on mine more than once.
That seat does soften up!
thay are not all that slow, mine at the sprints managed 15.75 standing 1/4 and 161.85km flying quarter (top speed) with a 15 tooth front sprocket more open exhaust and no mirrors.
They are happy on 91 octane and I can pull 400km to a tank, not sure of volume but its about $26.
Not as nimble as a smaller 250 twin and prob not as fast but I keep up ok.
They have very learner friendly handling and respond will to being steered around corners. They are very steady and tolerent to mid corner upsets/corrections.
Hitchers got it wrong saying the VTR is the best, It is more nimble around town but the 5 speed on the current model lets it down on long distance.
Also naked bike much harder work for lotsa kms.
Neither is better, just different focus.
Hyosung GTR250 is very similar to GSX but definatly slower acelleration.
Has awesome looking twin disk front brakes tho!
May make it stop harder, but will definatley make it stop with less lever effort and wont heat up as quick.
I have had bake fade on 6 month old brake fluid in my GSX after mega a couple of canes over the takas, but that aint exactly normal operating conditions!
koba
26th July 2007, 20:04
The best new 250 on the market is the Honda VTR250, without doubt or even a close second! There are some grey import versions around that have a tach. In the second-hand market go for a Spada or a Yamaha Zeal (I have a Zeal for sale, by the way...). Don't believe me, Google them and see the reviews for yourself. My Zeal eats GSX250s, and that's with 100+kg of me on board!
I bet you a dozen beers I can get a better stopwatched laptime at a manfield trackday on my GSX250 than you on your Zeal, Given clean (no-one in the way) laps for both of course!
koba
26th July 2007, 20:10
If anyone gives a shit I can go into detail about why so invaders are so heavy, origins, and lots of other shit, ask and I dont mind carrying on, otherwise I cant be arsed.
If you want to know in ages time from now make sure you quote me so I know and get a buzz about it.
Coyote
26th July 2007, 20:30
I've ridden koba's GSX and I was impressed. One of the best learner bikes I've ridden. Nice upright riding position, light handling, decent power for it's size. I'd reccomend one
Blair-SV
26th July 2007, 21:19
I had one, sold it to a nice lady KBer, hope it's still going well.
I thought it was fine at the time, easy to learn on, didn't bite, felt pretty quick for the first 2 weeks. Once I'd gotten my licence and ridden other bikes I began to realise the limitations of it (the handling wasn't too sharp). If I could have I would have bought a VTR250 on looks alone but they were too expensive. If the money was equal I'd have gone for the Honda.
Oh yeah, the GSX mirrors are tiny! Once I had gear on my shoulders completely blocked them, had to squirm sideways to look behind me.
Nice and reliable though, didn't give me any probs in the short time I owned it.
koba
26th July 2007, 23:51
Tiny mirrors?!??! never ridden a GSXR 250 then? Gsx 250 has better mirrors than most I've ridden!
alexmalu
19th October 2007, 01:13
Just got my restricted - yahoo.
I'm a commuter and own a 94 250 bandit. Enjoy thoroughly riding it but breaks down every now and then. Tried a Hyosung 250R and that was a big let down.
Looking at a '04 GSX250 for 4995 at 20K on clock, because I wanna get a newer commuter and less fuel thirsty 250cc. Any advice? How would the bandit compare with the GSX?
Ebon_legend
19th December 2007, 00:11
If anyone gives a shit I can go into detail about why so invaders are so heavy, origins, and lots of other shit, ask and I dont mind carrying on, otherwise I cant be arsed.
If you want to know in ages time from now make sure you quote me so I know and get a buzz about it.
i just got a gsx 250-feels like it weighs a ton compared to my spada, and they weigh quite a bit(168 kg)
Why are they so heavy?is there any way to make it lighter?
koba
19th December 2007, 06:23
i just got a gsx 250-feels like it weighs a ton compared to my spada, and they weigh quite a bit(168 kg)
Why are they so heavy?is there any way to make it lighter?
Wow!
Thats going back a bit now...
In short they are heavy because they are a 500.
If you look at an old gs500e you will see that lots and lots of bits are the same.
The new(er) gs500 thats a bit 'busa is pretty much also the same, apart from the fairing.
The frame has an extra reinforcing bar or 2 on the 500s, the motor is obviously different but thats about it!
You will notice the front left engine mount on the gsx is even packed out to allow fitting the narrower 250 motor!
You can do heaps to make this steel beast lighter, but anything you do aswell as being time consuming and kinda tricky it will also make it weaker.
So don't bother, My bike took at least 4 highspeed knocks and survived fine! (None with me riding:cool:)My mates has been down even more that! (one with me riding :whistle:) Hes Flipped it at the traffic lights, High sided it, low sided it etc etc... And she is still ok!
racefactory
25th July 2008, 01:38
hey koba good right up mate. thats really good im sure future 250 people will see what youve written.
road king
4th August 2008, 22:22
not a bad bike to learn on. is starting to get a little hard getting stock parts for it tho.
my owners manual says the dry weight is 169kg
im getting about 300km a tank, thats about 25L, and i rev the shit out of it everywere i go
top speed is about 165
MarkyMark
13th October 2008, 17:59
My bike took at least 4 highspeed knocks and survived fine! (None with me riding:cool:)My mates has been down even more that! (one with me riding :whistle:) Hes Flipped it at the traffic lights, High sided it, low sided it etc etc... And she is still ok!
Damn is this reassuring to hear! I'm thinking of buying [This](http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-accessories/Frames-bodywork/auction-181294971.htm) and getting it back on the road, I've been reading all the old threads about reregistering bikes and it's good to hear the frame definitely won't be an issue.
koba
14th October 2008, 06:31
Damn is this reassuring to hear! I'm thinking of buying [This](http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-accessories/Frames-bodywork/auction-181294971.htm) and getting it back on the road, I've been reading all the old threads about reregistering bikes and it's good to hear the frame definitely won't be an issue.
Check it!
Check every aspect of it, even with stringline if you ca to make sure the headstock is in line with the rear shock and swingarm pivot.
They are hard to bend but it is possible on anything.
Make sure it is all there and easy enough to get going.
That buy-now sounds like HEAPS of money for a fucked bike...
He will probably find it hard to sell so if you let him wait a bit you will prob get it cheaper.
s_devo
9th December 2008, 14:02
Hi Koda,
You mentioned in an earlier post about adding a 15 tooth front sprocket to your GSX 250. I'm pretty green :baby: - is that something that I could source and easily do myself or would I be better off letting my new mates at Haldanes sort it out for me?
Cheers, Stevio
jcking
23rd February 2016, 16:50
Ok here goes trying again, Prob broken into smaller chunks tho!
First, the confusion over models
The current GSX250 is the "Invader" This will be what the 2004 one
250 oilcooled twin, monoshock rear. the one most of us here know as a GSX250.
Its the fat bitch one, 179 dry by my manual, but could very well be 186 or whatever.
There was an old one, probably this "thunder"
one 250 Aircoold twin with Dualshock rear end.
Also There has been the GSX250 KATANA, don know if sold new in NZ but I have seen them here. 4cyl Watercooled (maybe GSXR250 based) Twinshock KATANA style frame and fairing.
There was also the GSX250 "Across" another 4cyl watercooled with monoshock rear. It had an awesome helmet holder luggage compartment where the fuel tank normally sits, and tank I think was below seat. Very Close To Late 80's steel frame GSXR250.
I think bandit 250s are GSF250. Also often confused with GSX250s
They are tubeframe naked with another version of the Waterpumping 250 4.
Used as stressed member so the head has mounting lugs and also has different inlet/carb setup for more naked style power delivery.
Later models 40hp restricted. There are very new ones of these hanging about.
I am currently tempting to overhaul my GSX250 2004. Is there any chance I can get a copy of a service and or parts manual, or information of the whereabouts of one. It has proven difficult to find...
jonnyk5614
25th February 2016, 08:52
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1037832934
Or if you don't mind putting in a little bit of work, I'm selling mine for $1k!
They are awesome bikes but I wouldn't pay $6k for my first bike. I remember the feeling - I nearly bought a Ducatti 400S in my excitement and then saw sense. Save the extra $1000s for your big bike.
koba
27th February 2016, 06:54
I am currently tempting to overhaul my GSX250 2004. Is there any chance I can get a copy of a service and or parts manual, or information of the whereabouts of one. It has proven difficult to find...
No idea!
That was 8 years ago...
SNF
27th February 2016, 20:17
Kidnapped one and rode it for a good 10,000 kms. Even with high miles it didn't skip a beat. Being a twin it has a nice smooth power band also being a tourer its comfortable on longer rides. You can feel the weight at low speeds and it is no rocket ship - if you look after it it'll run forever and wont feel as cramped compared to a full sports 250 - I'm geberalising the older ones (MC19/22 and FZR's etc).
It made me realize I'd be quite happy with a sports tourer rather than full out sports. I was really wanting an R6 for my first "real" bike but Now I'm thinking maybe an SV and evetually Zx14.
jafagsx250
21st June 2016, 14:07
Bit of a thread resurrection but I thought I'd chip in considering I bought one as my first bike.
I bought mine in late April in Napier and rode it all the way back to dork land. The only reason I bought it was because it was cheap and there wasn't much in Auckland at the time that brother thought were suitable to learn on. But in saying that I am pretty happy with it and it's been really reliable and good on gas (I get about 300km's from an 18 litre tank.)
The good:
She's quite easy to ride and very forgiving of my profoundly average riding with the only times I have nearly gone into a ditch are because of misjudged corners rather than because of the bike.
Despite weighing a lot more than she ought to, when I dropped her she wasn't too hard to pick up (although getting her onto the center stand eludes me) and the only damage was more cracks on the fairings but the indicators are bendy ones so they're fine.
The bad:
The gearbox ratios feel quite short. First doesn't seem really necessary and when cruising at 100km/h it seems to rev quite high at 9000 rpm but I have read that a 15 tooth front sprocket from a yamaha yz450f fits and helps with this.
The steering feels very heavy compared to the 250 bandit I've ridden. She also feels very slow when you ride other 250's.
She weighs a lot. 160 odd kilos. Changes depending on the year I think.
All in all If you don't spend a whole lot on them they're not bad first bikes but I wouldn't spend more than a couple grand on one as there are plenty of better bikes out there.
ptroy
22nd June 2016, 11:43
300km from a 18l tank? That's flippen terrible.
Burnie
22nd June 2016, 15:04
I'm getting 240 - 250kms from the 12L tank on my VL250. Not bad considering the 90kg fat bugger on her back.
actungbaby
22nd June 2016, 19:30
[QUOTE=jafagsx250;1130980746]Bit of a thread resurrection but I thought I'd chip in considering I bought one as my first bike.
I bought mine in late April in Napier and rode it all the way back to dork land. The only reason I bought it was because it was cheap and there wasn't much in Auckland at the time that brother thought were suitable to learn on. But in saying that I am pretty happy with it and it's been really reliable and good on gas (I get about 300km's from an 18 litre tank.)
The good:
She's quite easy to ride and very forgiving of my profoundly average riding with the only times I have nearly gone into a ditch are because of misjudged corners rather than because of the bike.
Despite weighing a lot more than she ought to, when I dropped her she wasn't too hard to pick up (although getting her onto the center stand eludes me) and the only damage was more cracks on the fairings but the indicators are bendy ones so they're fine.
Okay how my dad taught me face the bike left hand on handle bar right on the seat or grab rail right foot on the centre stand.
push down with the foot and the bike will lift easy . use the arms to steady the bike . one smooth motion . not rocking rolling .
always walk the bike on the lft hand side or get on the bike left hand side side stand never the right.
jafagsx250
22nd June 2016, 19:51
[QUOTE=jafagsx250;1130980746]Bit of a thread resurrection but I thought I'd chip in considering I bought one as my first bike.
I bought mine in late April in Napier and rode it all the way back to dork land. The only reason I bought it was because it was cheap and there wasn't much in Auckland at the time that brother thought were suitable to learn on. But in saying that I am pretty happy with it and it's been really reliable and good on gas (I get about 300km's from an 18 litre tank.)
The good:
She's quite easy to ride and very forgiving of my profoundly average riding with the only times I have nearly gone into a ditch are because of misjudged corners rather than because of the bike.
Despite weighing a lot more than she ought to, when I dropped her she wasn't too hard to pick up (although getting her onto the center stand eludes me) and the only damage was more cracks on the fairings but the indicators are bendy ones so they're fine.
Okay how my dad taught me face the bike left hand on handle bar right on the seat or grab rail right foot on the centre stand.
push down with the foot and the bike will lift easy . use the arms to steady the bike . one smooth motion . not rocking rolling .
always walk the bike on the lft hand side or get on the bike left hand side side stand never the right.
The couple times I have tried I ended up rocking and rolling it. I will give it another go tomorrow. I am cautious about dropping the bike onto my legs so i keep the side stand on. or dropping it onto its side so if I keep it long term I'll probably buy a paddock stand which uses the swing arms rather than pegs as there isn't room for them.
How come its bad to get onto the bike from the right hand side?
Ulsterkiwi
23rd June 2016, 15:48
[QUOTE=actungbaby;1130981075]
How come its bad to get onto the bike from the right hand side?
because if you do, small puppies will die.
actungbaby
23rd June 2016, 17:05
[QUOTE=actungbaby;1130981075]
The couple times I have tried I ended up rocking and rolling it. I will give it another go tomorrow. I am cautious about dropping the bike onto my legs so i keep the side stand on. or dropping it onto its side so if I keep it long term I'll probably buy a paddock stand which uses the swing arms rather than pegs as there isn't room for them.
How come its bad to get onto the bike from the right hand side?
its easy when you shown even stand side on with the stand foot on the pedal of the stand . as you relax push down with you leg. move the bike back at the same time with you right arm . you cant go wrong . your got you weight on the stand so nothing can go wrong.
practice my friend you be a pro in no time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFd9IynVEIc
if i can lift cb 750 interga about 240 kg real easy just confidence mate
jafagsx250
23rd June 2016, 21:29
because if you do, small puppies will die.
Can't have that happen. I'll get some crazy hippie vegans onto me.
[QUOTE=jafagsx250;1130981076]
its easy when you shown even stand side on with the stand foot on the pedal of the stand . as you relax push down with you leg. move the bike back at the same time with you right arm . you cant go wrong . your got you weight on the stand so nothing can go wrong.
practice my friend you be a pro in no time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFd9IynVEIc
if i can lift cb 750 interga about 240 kg real easy just confidence mate
I'll definitely give it a go once the rum and coke has worn off in the morning. I have to get my girlfriend to lube the chain while I roll it forward so when I get it up it'll be primo.
Or maybe I need some Dutch courage ha.
Thanks man. Appreciate it.
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