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placidfemme
17th February 2006, 06:40
Source: NZ Herald
Motorcyclist critical after police chase
17.02.06
A motorcyclist who crashed his Harley-Davidson while being chased by police was in a critical condition in hospital early this morning.
The six-minute chase started about 9.40pm on the Southern Motorway when police noticed the Harley had a faulty tail-light and reached 80km/h through the residential streets of Mt Wellington.
It ended when the motorcycle, followed closely by a police car, failed to take a gentle bend on Commissariat Rd just before the intersection with Aranui Rd. Witnesses say the rider stood up but collapsed immediately.
Nurses who live in the street tended the unconscious man until an ambulance took him to Auckland City Hospital.
The man's employer, who had been riding with him on his own Harley, said his staff member should have pulled over, but he criticised the police for following too closely. He said the damaged Harley was worth $75,000.
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What a dick... cops were following to closely :motu: maybe he shouldn't have been speeding in a residental area...
Also who watched Motorway Patrol the other night... "motorcycle" accident was a guy on a scooter... same difference some might say, but thats just painting a bad image of bikers because of a scooter...
MisterD
17th February 2006, 06:53
...crashed his Harley-Davidson.....failed to take a gentle bend...
:killingme What do we learn from this?
Grahameeboy
17th February 2006, 06:58
:killingme What do we learn from this?
Don't exceed 80kph on a HD on a GENTLE bend?:Oops:
Motu
17th February 2006, 07:03
Dunno where he crashed,because there are no bends on Commisariat Rd just before the intersection with Aranui Rd....I've crashed and spun out on nearly every corner in that area.
Doing a runner because your tail light is out....doing a runner while your boss is watching.....doing a runner on a $75,000 motorcycle.
I'd say exessive stupidity was a contributing factor in this accident.
jonbuoy
17th February 2006, 07:18
Dunno where he crashed,because there are no bends on Commisariat Rd just before the intersection with Aranui Rd....I've crashed and spun out on nearly every corner in that area.
Doing a runner because your tail light is out....doing a runner while your boss is watching.....doing a runner on a $75,000 motorcycle.
I'd say exessive stupidity was a contributing factor in this accident.
I'll Say, not the best bike to outrun the cops on.....................
Finn
17th February 2006, 07:26
Dunno where he crashed,because there are no bends on Commisariat Rd just before the intersection with Aranui Rd....I've crashed and spun out on nearly every corner in that area.
Doing a runner because your tail light is out....doing a runner while your boss is watching.....doing a runner on a $75,000 motorcycle.
I'd say exessive stupidity was a contributing factor in this accident.
Motu mate, he was probably just another rich bastard and deserved to crash anyway. It's not fair that someone else should ride a bike better than mine. Boo hoo. Besides, he was probably part of that breakaway division of the HOG's that oppossed the Speedway.
I'd say his stupidity was spending $75000 on a Harley. He could have imported one from the states and saved at least $25000.
Paul in NZ
17th February 2006, 07:31
He said the damaged Harley was worth $75,000.
I'd say... the damaged Harley COST $75,000. It's worth bugger all now...
98tls
17th February 2006, 07:34
:brick: :brick: doing a runner on a harley,reckon he must have been doing to much:drinkup: guess he wont do it again.
placidfemme
17th February 2006, 07:35
One of my bosses rides a custom HD (only on perfect sunny days... so he doesn't ride often)... he's now got all the upper managment males wanting HD's... Suppose it's like buying a Ferrari and hardly using it to keep the K's down to keep the value *shrugs*
In The Breeze
17th February 2006, 07:36
Smart enuff to earn 75 large for a bike yet dum enuff to think itll out run a coppa :scratch: What a winner :scooter:
Motu
17th February 2006, 08:02
Motu mate, he was probably just another rich bastard and deserved to crash anyway. It's not fair that someone else should ride a bike better than mine. Boo hoo. .
Oh boy,I haven't even baited my hook and you're snapping away....you do have a problem don't you.Having to defend your situation before you've even been taken to task about it is a bit suspicious....a guilt complex? Go for a ride,it's good therapy....
Lucky the guy wasn't riding a sports bike,otherwise we'd all be blaming the Cops for his crash and not his bike....
placidfemme
17th February 2006, 08:08
Lucky the guy wasn't riding a sports bike,otherwise we'd all be blaming the Cops for his crash and not his bike....
Thats so true...
*really shouldn't pick on the HD riders... generally they are bigger, rougher and stronger than me* :Oops: (fortunatley in this case... not smarter)
Paul in NZ
17th February 2006, 08:19
Lighten up folks..
Everyone has the right to follow their own star and just because we can't see the value of a $75,000 HD thungume wassit does not mean others don't. Personally I'd rather have 10 oily old heaps for that much but everyone knows I'm odd.. Just remember, "Those who hear not the music, think the dancers mad"
Having said that! (and I'm sure the gentleman in question would now agree) It's plain DUMB to do a runner for a busted tail light full stop! The type of bike does not come into it!
We have all fucked up in life, all done stupid things, often repeatedly but here is a guy that may loose his life, maybe a family may loose a father or a son over a friggin tail light! Please let me never be so daft!
Paul N
Rashika
17th February 2006, 08:33
:brick: :brick: doing a runner on a harley,reckon he must have been doing to much:drinkup: guess he wont do it again.
Guess doing a "runner on an Harley" depends a little on the HD doesn't it? :wari:
Lucky the guy wasn't riding a sports bike,otherwise we'd all be blaming the Cops for his crash and not his bike....
actually we'd prob be blaming the cops for his death instead. :spudwhat:
marty
17th February 2006, 08:44
Wonder if THIS guy was displaying his L plate?
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=1&ObjectID=10368807
Darryboy
17th February 2006, 08:46
Following to closely?
WTF?! It was an effing pursuit!
nadroj
17th February 2006, 08:49
Got to wonder about Harley riders (posers) - are they all Richards?
scumdog
17th February 2006, 08:54
The riders mate must be a KBer - straight into the pig-bashing and blaming dick-heads crash on them:tugger: :rofl: :killingme
nadroj
17th February 2006, 08:58
Do some Harleys have teflon coating on their crankcases to stop them biting in on corners. It seems to wear off rather quickly.
Cookie
17th February 2006, 09:02
Good farking job to him. Cops following to close. :baby: What exactly was he expecting? A police escort back home?
scumdog
17th February 2006, 09:04
Meh, nothing makes us feel good like a bit of 'he's got an expensive bike' bashing - 'whack!' and an added 'he's a Harley rider' bashing' -"biffo!" followed by a 'he's more dumb than me' snotting' -"whammo!"
Oh yes, now I feel soooo good about ME!!, I now know I'm sooo much better than that guy!
Carry on, business as usual on KB!!:clap:
steved
17th February 2006, 09:07
and reached 80km/h through the residential streets of Mt Wellington.
It ended when the motorcycle, followed closely by a police car, failed to take a gentle bend on Commissariat Rd just before the intersection with Aranui Rd.
Gentle bend at 80 kph?
Big Dave
17th February 2006, 09:11
Aye scum
What shits me all the ones who say 'Harleys are ....' and they haven't even SAT on one.
Late model Harleys go well, handle quite nicely and are pretty reliable. I KNOW - I've ridden every model in the range. So don't be a dick and say 'Harleys are....' UNTIL you've at least ridden one.
Grahameeboy
17th February 2006, 09:18
Aye scum
What shits me all the ones who say 'Harleys are ....' and they haven't even SAT on one.
Late model Harleys go well, handle quite nicely and are pretty reliable. I KNOW - I've ridden every model in the range. So don't be a dick and say 'Harleys are....' UNTIL you've at least ridden one.
I actually think that HD's are cool and sound good........just not my style of riding.........I sort of pitched in the middle with my SV1000S..........I now await flack....
SPORK
17th February 2006, 09:38
words
I agree with you completely. Different strokes for different folks. But the fact he could die over a tail light is kinda ridiculous, innit? (BTW, good to see you posting again!)
far queue
17th February 2006, 09:54
But the fact he could die over a tail light is kinda ridiculous, innit?
Maybe he had more concerns than a broken taillight?
Maybe he was unlicensed, un-rego'd, etc and didn't want to get done for that.
Maybe he was pissed and didn't want to get done for that.
Maybe he was known to police and wanted for "other stuff" and didn't want to be ID'd ond done for that.
Maybe he didn't actually know that he'd drawn attention to himself because of a faulty tail light, and was running from other stuff.
Or of course maybe he was just a dumb shit?
Too many ifs and maybe's. The guy certainly seems to be a dick from the way the story is written, but don't believe everything you read.
MisterD
17th February 2006, 10:00
an added 'he's a Harley rider' bashing' -"biffo!"
Need a chill-pill SD? I was just amused by the way the Harold's report seemed to confirm our cherished sterotypes......talking of which Retroscooters in MT Eden now have PINK scooters....mmmm.
Paul in NZ
17th February 2006, 10:02
Too many ifs and maybe's. The guy certainly seems to be a dick from the way the story is written, but don't believe everything you read.
mate.... If certain newspaper reporters had written the new testament then even Zed would think Jesus was a dickhead!
Don't believe everything you read and yes, I'll bet there was more than one reason the guy decided to do a runner, including the sort of macho bollocks we read on KB...
However, if you could slip into his subconcious mind, past all the broken bits and the pain and offer him a deal, lets say turn back time and make it all go away for 6 months loss of license and a $1,000 do you reckon he would take that deal now? I bet he did more than that in damage to the bike!
Funny old world! (everyone says that but no one laughs)
scumdog
17th February 2006, 10:03
Need a chill-pill SD? I was just amused by the way the Harold's report seemed to confirm our cherished sterotypes......talking of which Retroscooters in MT Eden now have PINK scooters....mmmm.
Nah, just pointing out the screaming obvious - which ain't obvious at all to some.
SPORK
17th February 2006, 10:04
Too many ifs and maybe's. The guy certainly seems to be a dick from the way the story is written, but don't believe everything you read.
Agreed. But to you, are any of those issues worth dying over? Also, if you personally knew me, you'd know that I'm an extremely media-critical person. :sherlock:
Rashika
17th February 2006, 10:17
Need a chill-pill SD? I was just amused by the way the Harold's report seemed to confirm our cherished sterotypes......talking of which Retroscooters in MT Eden now have PINK scooters....mmmm.
Talking of which, i saw this INCREDIBLY SHINY AND SPARKLY scooter yesterday.... it just glowed all down the length of manchester street....OMG.... :sick:
Almost as shiny as something Dangerous would own :blip:
oldrider
17th February 2006, 10:18
So many men so many opinions, as the saying goes!
What a boring shit of a world it would be if we all made the same decisions, went the same way, bought the same bike!
Fight or flight! He chose flight.:doh: BUMMER! Such sweetness is the freedom to choose. :drinknsin Cheers John.
NotaGoth
17th February 2006, 10:26
Aye scum
What shits me all the ones who say 'Harleys are ....' and they haven't even SAT on one.
Late model Harleys go well, handle quite nicely and are pretty reliable. I KNOW - I've ridden every model in the range. So don't be a dick and say 'Harleys are....' UNTIL you've at least ridden one.
Bling for that. Both you and scummy.
All I can say is.. Being brought up around harleys and HARLEY riders WHOOP-D I've never heard so much bashing of motorbikes. Seems to come from one direction in general.. :shutup:
Colapop
17th February 2006, 10:26
His boss was riding with him? What... getting chased to? Does that mean the boss of his chapter...? Musta had an outstanding warrant or summat..?
Even though the guy went down and that's not good, I hope all the guys who are constantly saying on here "Yeah I'd do a runner. F*ck the cops" see that and learn something (fat chance) Hmmmm two cops in a car... one drives the other writes down your license plate number - Nah they'll have no idea who you are. :weird:
SwanTiger
17th February 2006, 10:34
Any motorcycle is a good motorcycle in my opinion, so long as it runs okay.
As for the Motorway patrol thingy, yeah I saw that, the scooter guy was obviously one of the many idiot riders in Auckland.
knuckles
17th February 2006, 10:36
yeah thats it, tar us all with the same brush.[harley riders that is]fuck sake ,was any one there to see what actually happened?didnt think so...had a copper try to take me out last week,left hamilton just after dark,clear road,2 seconds later this arse hole muftis 6 inches from me back gaurd before he hits the dash lights,thought it was the local monkey mob out for some sport...twas just a silverback in a uniform quote"keeping an eye on the white trash"unquote...wonder how the local rag would have slanted a different out come...
Sniper
17th February 2006, 10:37
Only a six minute chase?
NotaGoth
17th February 2006, 10:41
As for the Motorway patrol thingy, yeah I saw that, the scooter guy was obviously one of the many idiot riders in Auckland.
NOW REMEMBER KIDS :hitcher: YOU'RE ONLY AN IDIOT IF YOU RIDE A HARLEY.
bahahahaha
Sorry but on a serious note. If it hadn't of been mentioned that he was on a HD, I'm thinking that much different things would have been said.
NotaGoth
17th February 2006, 10:43
yeah thats it, tar us all with the same brush
Quite sad isn't it?
CPB
17th February 2006, 10:54
75K and still can't get around a corner (gentle one at that...80kph, are they serious)?? :-)
far queue
17th February 2006, 10:56
Agreed. But to you, are any of those issues worth dying over? Also, if you personally knew me, you'd know that I'm an extremely media-critical person. :sherlock:
Hell no, none of them are worth dying over. And no comments were aimed at anyone in particular in this case, I'm just making the point that there could have been more to this than a faulty tail light.
Bearing in mind that I don't neccesarily have the full facts, and making a judgement on that basis. I personally think he was a dumb shit for doing a runner and his boss is a dumb shit to be whinging about the cops following too close. If he had just pulled over none of this would have happened. His fault, no one else's. On the positive side, he's trying to do his bit for the gene pool by getting out.
scumdog
17th February 2006, 10:56
75K and still can't get around a corner
Maybe it was the six jugs of bourbon and two big cones he'd had??
DirtMad
17th February 2006, 11:00
75K and still can't get around a corner (gentle one at that...80kph, are they serious)?? :-)
was prob. trying to avoid the cop car about to side swipe him :Oops: :laugh:
Ixion
17th February 2006, 11:10
I agree with you completely. Different strokes for different folks. But the fact he could die over a tail light is kinda ridiculous, innit? (BTW, good to see you posting again!)
He prolly would not have known it was just a pullover for a taillight though. Just seen the lights and paniced. As someone said, maybe had other reasons for not wanting to talk to Mr Plod. His call, sorry for him that it went pear shaped, but thems the cahnces you take.I wondered what the ruddy chopper was doing going back and forth over Mr Wellington (suburb, not mountain) last night.
marty
17th February 2006, 11:16
Sorry but on a serious note. If it hadn't of been mentioned that he was on a HD, I'm thinking that much different things would have been said.
i think the issue is that he was on a $75k bike (who cares what it is) and tried to do a runner, failing miserably, making himself look right a right plonker in the process
far queue
17th February 2006, 11:16
'whack!' and an added 'he's a Harley rider' bashing' -"biffo!"
Oh yes, now I feel soooo good about ME!!, I now know I'm sooo much better than that guy!
Aye scum
What shits me all the ones who say 'Harleys are ....' and they haven't even SAT on one.
Late model Harleys go well, handle quite nicely and are pretty reliable. I KNOW - I've ridden every model in the range. So don't be a dick and say 'Harleys are....' UNTIL you've at least ridden one.
mmmm, the fishing's good today, you guy's bite so well.
Me, I've never ridden a HD, and have only ever sat on one. I don't really give a shit what you all ride, we're all bikers :ride: But because you guys tend to bite like this it makes it fun to poke the stick at you :eyepoke: Have a look at what I'm riding, it's hardly a sports bike either. One thing I really don't like about HD's is they're so bloody loud and you bastards like to leave them idling for ever outside my tent on a rally Sunday morning when I'm not feeling the best :slap: And one thing that I really am curious about is why is it that HD riders don't wave back? :wavey:
SPORK
17th February 2006, 11:18
He prolly would not have known it was just a pullover for a taillight though. Just seen the lights and paniced. As someone said, maybe had other reasons for not wanting to talk to Mr Plod. His call, sorry for him that it went pear shaped, but thems the cahnces you take.I wondered what the ruddy chopper was doing going back and forth over Mr Wellington (suburb, not mountain) last night.
Well, he paid the price for not doing the sensible thing. I guess we all make mistakes, hopefully not as bad as this one though...
(BTW, "cahnces" isn't a word)
NotaGoth
17th February 2006, 11:20
And one thing that I really am curious about is why is it that HD riders don't wave back? :wavey:
Do you wave to every single person who waves to you??????
NotaGoth
17th February 2006, 11:21
i think the issue is that he was on a $75k bike (who cares what it is) and tried to do a runner, failing miserably, making himself look right a right plonker in the process
Yes a right plonker. I get that bit.
Marmoot
17th February 2006, 11:29
Wonder if THIS guy was displaying his L plate?
"L" for Lame? :pinch:
nadroj
17th February 2006, 11:31
Do all $75,000 Harleys come with broken tailights?
NotaGoth
17th February 2006, 11:34
Not the bikes fault its rider was a dick
far queue
17th February 2006, 11:36
Do you wave to every single person who waves to you??????
Yes actually, unless I'm a bit busy at the time. But I've never had a HD rider wave back to me, either on my current bike or previous (GSX750F), and I know that this is a common trait among HD riders. I don't know if they wave to each other or not.
NotaGoth
17th February 2006, 11:39
I'm a bit busy at the time.
Well there you go. Some people rather concentrate on their riding than concentrate on waving to every single joe blow that rides past.
I mean.. Its not like I go out and wave at every single cage I drive past.. :spudwhat:
far queue
17th February 2006, 11:50
Well there you go. Some people rather concentrate on their riding than concentrate on waving to every single joe blow that rides past.
So, you seem to be saying here that HD's require such a high level of concentration to ride that you could possibly give a give a friendly wave. This seems to confirm what everyone says about their handling. Never having riden one myself I wouldn't know, but I had wondered that. I assume that you ride one yourself and therefore speak with some authority on the subject? Or are you just talking shit?
NotaGoth
17th February 2006, 11:56
So, you seem to be saying here that HD's require such a high level of concentration to ride that you could possibly give a give a friendly wave. This seems to confirm what everyone says about their handling. Never having riden one myself I wouldn't know, but I had wondered that. I assume that you ride one yourself and therefore speak with some authority on the subject? Or are you just talking shit?
Here ok, I was driving my cage through the Coro way. Yeah my cage. Waved to probably 20 bikers. Even stuck my hand out the window BIG WAVE. Even though I was in a cage, did I get a single wave back? Oh and lets not forget.. They were all on harleys.. :killingme ACTUALLY THEY WERE ALL SPORTSBIKES. Get over it. IF someone wants to wave to you, they will. :killingme And no I'm not talking shit. Just sick ofpeople taking the piss out of harley riders. Shall we bitch about everyone who don't wave? :slap:
NotaGoth
17th February 2006, 11:58
Here ok, I was driving my cage through the Coro way. Yeah my cage. Waved to probably 20 bikers. Even stuck my hand out the window BIG WAVE. Even though I was in a cage, did I get a single wave back? Oh and lets not forget.. They were all on harleys.. :killingme ACTUALLY THEY WERE ALL SPORTSBIKES. Get over it. IF someone wants to wave to you, they will. :killingme And no I'm not talking shit. Just sick ofpeople taking the piss out of harley riders. Shall we bitch about everyone who don't wave? :slap:
EDIT: stupid sprotsbike riders.. not waving..
R6_kid
17th February 2006, 12:12
what a fuck knuckle... the cops are too close i cant stop now :violin:
CPB
17th February 2006, 12:14
Doing a runner because your tail light is out....doing a runner while your boss is watching.....doing a runner on a $75,000 motorcycle.
I'd say exessive stupidity was a contributing factor in this accident.
well said.
Ixion
17th February 2006, 12:16
Yes actually, unless I'm a bit busy at the time. But I've never had a HD rider wave back to me, either on my current bike or previous (GSX750F), and I know that this is a common trait among HD riders. I don't know if they wave to each other or not.
I have. Ratty , Petal and Phoebe quite often get a wave from HDs. Especially Ratty for some reason. Can't remember getting a wave back on Der Uberfarter though. But then no-ones waves to him. I think they're all mesmerised by the steady clomp of the jackboots.
CPB
17th February 2006, 12:34
was prob. trying to avoid the cop car about to side swipe him :Oops: :laugh:
ahhh, so that's what you say when you fall of a Harley on a gentle corner, it was the cops fault I didn't pull over, and then when i didn't pull over they tried to side swipe me...yeah right...:rofl:
SPORK
17th February 2006, 12:39
why dont u just join the kkk or the nazis or 1 of those places you german riding, hitler loving, himmler liking, freedm hating, facism admiring jew-hater
NotaGoth
17th February 2006, 12:42
why dont u just join the kkk or the nazis or 1 of those places you german riding, hitler loving, himmler liking, freedm hating, facism admiring jew-hater
yo yo whats up my nigger? :blip:
SimJen
17th February 2006, 12:53
Even though the guy went down and that's not good, I hope all the guys who are constantly saying on here "Yeah I'd do a runner. F*ck the cops" see that and learn something (fat chance) Hmmmm two cops in a car... one drives the other writes down your license plate number - Nah they'll have no idea who you are. :weird:
Doing a runner in town on a Harley is not the best....choose your battles wisely.
Out of town 140+, cop coming towards you, flashes the blue and reds. You know the roads, you are riding a 600+ sportsbike......then it gets interesting, lots of KB'ers would try it.
Big Dave
17th February 2006, 13:00
Doing a runner in town on a Harley is not the best....choose your battles wisely.
Out of town 140+, cop coming towards you, flashes the blue and reds. You know the roads, you are riding a 600+ sportsbike......then it gets interesting, lots of KB'ers would try it.
I can put you in touch with 2 guys that have done runners recently. you'll have to go and visit them however - it will be a few years before they can travel anywhere by themselves.
if they had stopped it would have been a $120 fine.
scumdog
17th February 2006, 13:05
When I'm out for a ride nobody on yellow sprotsbikes waves to me even if I wave first, people on other sprotsbikes do, are yellow ones harder to ride?? :scratch:
knuckles
17th February 2006, 13:06
hahahaha..sounds likea wingy winy baby wots dropped his custard...
guy [or girl] on the harleys too busy enjoying the ride to be interested in every wanna be fighterpilot doing his best impression of doggystyle...
seems like every second thread ends wif a good old harley bashing...heard about them but never actually seen one in the flesh..go figure...
enough of this shit im off for a ride,keep ya eyes peeled for a red softy ,give us a wave ya never know ya luck...
SimJen
17th February 2006, 13:08
Like I said, you choose your battles.
If some choose to run when all factors are not in their favour then thats their fault........trouble is most choose wrong.....or do we just not hear of the ones that get away???
scumdog
17th February 2006, 13:11
Like I said, you choose your battles.
If some choose to run when all factors are not in their favour then thats their fault........trouble is most choose wrong.....or do we just not hear of the ones that get away???
Runners: Like Russian Roulette - when you DO lose its big-time.
Motu
17th February 2006, 13:17
Geez you guys are thick! - he's a GIXER rider,it automaticly makes him one of the best riders in the country!
SimJen
17th February 2006, 13:19
I can also speak to 3 or 4 acquaintances that have done runners and got away :)
Of course I don't condone their activities.
Motu, Im not saying I would do it, just that its obviously possible. I've seen how some cops drive and they can't drive their big POS cars for shit.
scumdog
17th February 2006, 13:27
I can also speak to 3 or 4 acquaintances that have done runners and got away :)
Of course I don't condone their activities.
Motu, Im not saying I would do it, just that its obviously possible. I've seen how some cops drive and they can't drive their big POS cars for shit.
I assume you mean 'some' cops - like 'some' riders are good enough to do a runner - successfully!
Maha
17th February 2006, 13:28
Hey SimJen i know where you could pick up a cheap pair of highway pegs, chuck em on your Gixer and relax a little...................:scooter:
Motu
17th February 2006, 13:30
I was talking to a guy yesterday who did a runner on a fat Harley of some sort,and got away with it.
I think most of the guys who do a runner and get away with it...aren't really doing a runner,it's just in their own mind...it wasn't really a chase.Real chases are for real,and the runner seldom gets away.
SimJen
17th February 2006, 13:32
Yeah maha man, would make my bike look sssseeexy. Could also fit a suicide clutch and remove the rear shock and then really hammer the turns.
I'd actually love a chopper, but Im a bit skinny to get away with riding it methinks.
scumdog
17th February 2006, 13:36
I was talking to a guy yesterday who did a runner on a fat Harley of some sort,and got away with it.
I think most of the guys who do a runner and get away with it...aren't really doing a runner,it's just in their own mind...it wasn't really a chase.Real chases are for real,and the runner seldom gets away.
Ya know you've been in REAL chase when it's over and your arse has sucked the buttons off the seat - through your leathers!!
oldrider
17th February 2006, 13:38
I wave to all bikes when I can. I know it's stupid but old habits die hard.
There is no law that says anyone must wave or wave back. I don't care if nobody waves.
I just like to acknowledge other riders and Harley riders "do" wave back.
I haven't got enough biking years left to worry about shit like that.:finger: Cheers john.
Korea
17th February 2006, 13:44
"Hey, lets pull over that HD over there, the tail light is out... Oh no... he's, very slowly, getting away!"
marty
17th February 2006, 14:06
I can also speak to 3 or 4 acquaintances that have done runners and got away :)
Of course I don't condone their activities.
Motu, Im not saying I would do it, just that its obviously possible. I've seen how some cops drive and they can't drive their big POS cars for shit.
the emphasis should be on some, cause there's some that i know that would kick the arses of many of the self-confessed runners on here. eg, formula ford drivers, motorcycle racers (who hide their occupation - for obvious reasons), superkart racers, and those who have driven well over a million patrol miles in their time, and have seen/chased more than their share of idiot runners....
i did a little bit of DPS driving (like aunty helen's rugby match drive) when bolger was the boss/apec/chogm, and some of the driving i saw then was pretty classy. did you know a VR commy will do 120km/h in reverse?
marty
17th February 2006, 14:13
and there is a couple of sharp drivers on Cambridge HP at the moment....
lucky for some they don't go out french pass way :)
SimJen
17th February 2006, 14:32
back when I had my car I chased a few detectives out french pass......not bad drivers, but I still kicked their asses when it came to the twisties :) although its difficult to hussle such big gay cars.
Done a fair bit of driving/racing in my time too
Just read in the paper that the Harley guy got up to 80km/hr....far out thats quick.
And then gradually slowed till he was doing about 20km/hr and then fell off WTF?
marty
17th February 2006, 14:38
detectives deschmectives. mop up squad. never in a hurry to get anywhere. drive their desk faster. it's the guys who drive for a living you've got to worry about.
far queue
17th February 2006, 14:42
Here ok, I was driving my cage through the Coro way. Yeah my cage. Waved to probably 20 bikers. Even stuck my hand out the window BIG WAVE. Even though I was in a cage, did I get a single wave back? Oh and lets not forget.. They were all on harleys.. :killingme ACTUALLY THEY WERE ALL SPORTSBIKES. Get over it. IF someone wants to wave to you, they will. :killingme And no I'm not talking shit. Just sick ofpeople taking the piss out of harley riders. Shall we bitch about everyone who don't wave? :slap:
You're quite excitable arn't you
Reread post #35 on here. I'm not bitching about people not waving, I'm CURIOUS. My comment about not liking Harley's 'cos they're loud was supposed to be a bit of humour, but perhaps you didn't read it that way. But, if you wanna get your knickers in a twist that's your decision, whatever.
marty
17th February 2006, 14:42
bumped into a couple of the boys using a laser outside our local school today - in a 50k zone. sat with them for a bit - 4 licence suspensions in 20 minutes! 2 of them mums on the phone at 95km/h past the school! cattle truck at 85km/h, and a disqualified driver. not a bad effort for 30 minutes work
and no - i was doing 52k - and i didn't see them til i was well into the catch zone.
NotaGoth
17th February 2006, 14:44
You're quite excitable arn't you
Reread post #35 on here. I'm not bitching about people not waving, I'm CURIOUS. My comment about not liking Harley's 'cos they're loud was supposed to be a bit of humour, but perhaps you didn't read it that way. But, if you wanna get your knickers in a twist that's your decision, whatever.
Yes. Yes I am. Curiousity killed the cat.
Oakie
17th February 2006, 14:45
Hmm. Riding a $75,000 bike you'd reckon he could afford to laugh off the (possible) fine for his bad rear tail light.
(Or was part of the bike's $75,000 value accounted for by $50,000 worth of dope under the seat ... hence the runner?)
Big Dave
17th February 2006, 15:17
it's the guys who drive for a living you've got to worry about.
"deschmectives." ?!?
I reckon it's the helicopter that would have me f***ed.
knuckles
17th February 2006, 15:22
wave to all bikes when I can. I know it's stupid but old habits die hard.
There is no law that says anyone must wave or wave back. I don't care if nobody waves.
I just like to acknowledge other riders and Harley riders "do" wave back.
I haven't got enough biking years left to worry about shit like that. Cheers john
theres a bourbon waiting good to meet ya john
marty
17th February 2006, 15:31
try $250 000. it's not hard to carry that much meth.
Big Dave
17th February 2006, 15:35
I don't wave at anybody I don't know and don't care. Over it.
Rashika
17th February 2006, 15:43
bumped into a couple of the boys using a laser outside our local school today - in a 50k zone. sat with them for a bit - 4 licence suspensions in 20 minutes! 2 of them mums on the phone at 95km/h past the school! cattle truck at 85km/h, and a disqualified driver. not a bad effort for 30 minutes work
and no - i was doing 52k - and i didn't see them til i was well into the catch zone.
geez...I mean... FFS...how can they possibly think that 95km is okay???? Are they simply braindead?
Certainly as easy catch'em in town, damn wish I had one of them cruise control thingies for round town....just gotta be vigilent I suppose. Mind you it is damn hard to get done for speeding on my bike going to work....considering it's a pushie :whistle:
placidfemme
17th February 2006, 16:13
*is chuffed I made another 7+ page thread*
*watches the fishing and the biting*
kro
17th February 2006, 17:08
Dunno where he crashed,because there are no bends on Commisariat Rd just before the intersection with Aranui Rd....I've crashed and spun out on nearly every corner in that area.
Doing a runner because your tail light is out....doing a runner while your boss is watching.....doing a runner on a $75,000 motorcycle.
I'd say exessive stupidity was a contributing factor in this accident.
Well said.
Finn
17th February 2006, 17:11
Lighten up folks..
Everyone has the right to follow their own star and just because we can't see the value of a $75,000 HD thungume wassit does not mean others don't. Personally I'd rather have 10 oily old heaps for that much but everyone knows I'm odd.. Just remember, "Those who hear not the music, think the dancers mad"
Having said that! (and I'm sure the gentleman in question would now agree) It's plain DUMB to do a runner for a busted tail light full stop! The type of bike does not come into it!
We have all fucked up in life, all done stupid things, often repeatedly but here is a guy that may loose his life, maybe a family may loose a father or a son over a friggin tail light! Please let me never be so daft!
Paul N
I was just having a go a Motu. It appears he has a bad dose of tall poppy syndrome.
far queue
17th February 2006, 18:03
*is chuffed I made another 7+ page thread*
Congrats
*watches the fishing and the biting*
It's fun isn't it :D even more fun if you hop in and have a play :laugh:
It's quite entertaining watching the fights that go on here, good to have a stir every now and then too :done:
Skyryder
17th February 2006, 18:04
So what happened? He did a runner because of a faulty taillight or he did a runner becasue of 80k's in a 50k area and the bike had a faulty taillight. Either way he was going to get an instant loss of licence. Either way a fellow biker is down..........for whatever reason. Not good.
Skyryder
marty
17th February 2006, 18:12
how does he lose his licence for 80 in a 50? do you know something everyone doesn't?
Paul in NZ
17th February 2006, 18:34
I was just having a go a Motu. It appears he has a bad dose of tall poppy syndrome.
Yeah I know that (I'm only partially thick) ;-)
However Motu will confirm I'm sure that there is plenty of snobbery as well as envy. ie Blokes havin a go at you because you happen to like older or smaller bikes... Funny old world really! ;-)
Paul N
ps - actually I'm thick right through, I was lying...
Big Dave
17th February 2006, 18:35
how does he lose his licence for 80 in a 50?
Because he did the runner. Are we typing too fast for you?
Big Dave
17th February 2006, 19:17
However Motu will confirm I'm sure that there is plenty of snobbery as well as envy.
Explain how I'm envious of Motu's bike? - I'd need one for each cheek.
Motu
17th February 2006, 19:40
I was just having a go a Motu. It appears he has a bad dose of tall poppy syndrome.
This is news to me - over 6,000 posts now...and I don't think I've ever done a post where I have critisised someone for having more money,or a better bike than me.There could be some posts where I don't think it's too cool buying all this stuff never to use it,but I don't think it's tall poppy....Overspending with no taste sure - but as a someone who owns their own business....rich people pay their (overinflated) bills.
marty
17th February 2006, 19:57
So what happened? He did a runner because of a faulty taillight or he did a runner becasue of 80k's in a 50k area and the bike had a faulty taillight. Either way he was going to get an instant loss of licence. Either way a fellow biker is down..........for whatever reason. Not good.
Skyryder
no - not typing too fast, you're just not making sense. read your post carefully - either way - either from the 80 in a 50 or the broken tail light he WAS going to lose his licence - this suggests to me you believe he was going to lose his licence for the alleged offences committed BEFORE doing the runner.
please enlighten me if i am wrong.
MD
17th February 2006, 21:07
I know it's Friday but what have you guys been drinking today? So much venom spat at a complete stranger who crashed for some reason we don't know? Who ran for a reason we don't know? I really doubt, no matter how dumb some think he must have been, he would have crashed on a gentle bend just to see if it would hurt.
And why does the paper mention the brand this time? You don't usually hear of 'a speeding motorcyclist on a Honda/kawasaki/Yam..' I guess because of the $75k cost maybe that justified being specific. Like the Lambo incident or the test driver who went into a creek in a Porsche in Wgtn last yr (or was it a Ferrari)
Sadly we are going to see a lot more of these runners gone bad stories as a result of the draconian traffic penalties we have and the demerit system. But still no chance of us ever getting a similar three strikes and you're out system for serious criminal offences. Shit no, that would cost the Govt money instead of bringing in the ka-ching.
Why the hell can't demerits be counted con-currently instead of cumulatively, just like shit head repeat crims who get 6 sentences worth 5 yrs from a Judge all to be served con-currently in prison over 6 mths!
Skyryder
17th February 2006, 22:17
how does he lose his licence for 80 in a 50? do you know something everyone doesn't?
Woops. Maths was never my strong subject. But I was can remember when it was 30mph. Yea I know poor excuse. So I'm off for another JD
Skyryder
Skyryder
17th February 2006, 22:20
no - not typing too fast, you're just not making sense. read your post carefully - either way - either from the 80 in a 50 or the broken tail light he WAS going to lose his licence - this suggests to me you believe he was going to lose his licence for the alleged offences committed BEFORE doing the runner.
please enlighten me if i am wrong.
I'm confused.:scooter: See above post of mine.
Skyryder
scumdog
17th February 2006, 23:09
Because he did the runner. Are we typing too fast for you?
Meh, Dave I haven't heard of that one (you trollin' Willis?) and I must have missed a few licence suspensions 'cos a few runners I have caught have still held onto their licence. Well, until court day.:doh:
scumdog
17th February 2006, 23:13
i. did you know a VR commy will do 120km/h in reverse?
Yup, thought I'd blown the engine the first time I did it - then realised it was the rev-limiter cutting in:blah: :doh: :eek:
Gotta be REAL careful with the steering wheel at those speeds.:yes:
Timber020
18th February 2006, 13:22
Im impressed, the harley reached 80kmph within a 6 minute period.
The guy made a bad decision. Well in my opinion he made a collection of bad decisions when he tried to outrun the cops on the bike he had with the skills he applied.
I give the nod to harleys, japas, dukes, brits anyone, get the same amount of waves from all, just a couple less on the hogs. (But then I think I might be suprising them)
His choice of bike would have to be the least likely candidate for "most likely to evade police pursuit" Unless it was a buell or vrod. Do you know how to make a harley faster and handle better for less than 75K? Put it in a trailer and tow it with a police commodore.:done: Oh I love to stir......
marty
18th February 2006, 13:38
Gotta be REAL careful with the steering wheel at those speeds.:yes:
hell yeah - all that weight 'out back' that just wants to get to the front....
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