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[froggyfrenchman]

The funeral prosession for the chick that died on the outlaws poker run just came past my house, i live across the road dfrom the hospitaland they had a big rev up for their friends inside. I noticed as a sign of respect, there were a lot of riders wearing no helmet, im willing to bet the local papers will be flodded with letters of complaint, just as they did when 200 odd bikes rode with no lid at John Curtain's funeral here a few years ago.

I have done a prosession with no lid, 20-30kmph. Would you guys do it or leave the lid on?

[MSTRS]

Lid on and pillion pegs down......that is respect.

[MisterD]

It's a funeral. Hats off.

[scumdog]

Me? Lid off - you could hear the bosse jaw drop from the street when we went past.....


And not a cheep from the press'or'public.

EDIT: And it was all spontanious, one of those times when everybody looked at everybody else and the lids stayed off - not a word was spoken.

[MSTRS]

Hat off....yeah....but a helmet is not a fashion accessory, so I don't think it falls under that social more.

[Karma]

For a funerial procession, no more than 20 -30k, yeh I'd have the lid off as a sign of respect.

[froggyfrenchman]

I am only talkin from where the funeral is held to the cemetry, following the herse at 20-30kmph. Not to or from the funeral and definatly not at any speed!

[Ixion]

Well, technically the rule was, when people worried about such matters as etiquette, that men uncovered (bare head) for a funeral (or in church, solemn occassions generally) , and women always wore a hat for ditto.

So, male bikers, lid OFF. Biker chicks, lid ON. And dipped lights when following a hearse, cars and bike. Oh, and one NEVER overtakes a funeral procession. Enormously bad luck. And y'always give way to one, regardless of technical rules.

But no-one bothers with such niceties nowadays, or even remembers them

[MSTRS]

But no-one bothers with such niceties nowadays, or even remembers them
You are not wrong there. Funeral for our stillborn grandchild last year.....maybe 15 cars in the procession to the cemetary, all with lights on, travelling maybe 30kph (50kph zone entire trip)....I could not believe the number of other motorists who flashed their lights, tooted, overtook, cutoff at uncontrolled intersections. The only ones who behaved as you would expect were 'old' people. I was disgusted.

[Ixion]

Eheu, ichabod.

I remember about three years ago, on Nov 11, I was waiting in an airport gate lounge. Just before 11am. And over the PA system, someone announced "Ladies and gentlemen, in 3 minutes it will be 11am". Most of those around me looked blank, but I stood up, of course, as one does. The chap next to me stared blankly at me, so I made "stand up" motions , and tapped my wristwatch. And he then stood up. Then the old couple accross from me stood up (obviously understood what it was about), and he uncovered. Then just in time for 11am, in a sort of ripple, everyone else in the (quite full) gate lounge stood up. Which I thought was rather nice.

I recollect when EVERYTHING stopped at 11am. Buses and trams stopped and their passengers and drivers got out and stood mute in the roadway. Cars stopped and drivers and passengers got out (I remember being bundled out of the car by Mum) . Even the ferries hove too and blew their foghorns. And of course, at school we were all paraded outside , and abjured to silence. Heaven help the hapless bairn who made a peep, that was a sixer for certain.

[MisterD]

And y'always give way to one, regardless of technical rules.

But no-one bothers with such niceties nowadays, or even remembers them

I well remember a funeral I went to in Liverpool, we had an across town trip from the Church to the crem, which is over Anfield way. First set of lights just turning to red and the hearse jumped them....cue lots of out-of-towners in full "don't follow me, I'm lost too mode"....scousers, gotta love 'em, couldn't risk the hub caps getting nicked...have you any idea how much they cost for Daimlers these days?

[Korea]

Since when is riding without a helmet considered respectful? That's how plenty of riders get in the hearse in the first place!
I understand the hats off in the chapel and/or at the actual grave rule while we're listening to the eulogy etc. (Full-face helmets at a funeral would look... odd.)
Anyway, doesn't take more than 20-30kmph to smash your brains out on road. If you don't believe me, feel free to try a penguin-dive from a second floor balcony to test this out.

[ManDownUnder]

Personally I'd have my lid on, but I'd have no disrespect for those that chose to take it off at 30 kph.

RIP

[Jackrat]

Since when is riding without a helmet considered respectful? That's how plenty of riders get in the hearse in the first place!
I understand the hats off in the chapel and/or at the actual grave rule while we're listening to the eulogy etc. (Full-face helmets at a funeral would look... odd.)
Anyway, doesn't take more than 20-30kmph to smash your brains out on road. If you don't believe me, feel free to try a penguin-dive from a second floor balcony to test this out.

I've been to three funerals for bikers that died on the road,one of them being my 21yr old brother.All who were there on bikes rode without their helmets on.Who decides when something like that is respectfull or not,are the family and the people taking part.No body else is involved or even welcome,views like yours don't count,it's not about you.
Get over it.

[MSTRS]

Actually Jackrat, I agree with Korea. The point is tho that we all have ways of showing respect & as long as 'the way' is appropriate, does it matter what it is?

[Jackrat]

Actually Jackrat, I agree with Korea. The point is tho that we all have ways of showing respect & as long as 'the way' is appropriate, does it matter what it is?

That's a pity,I thought it was about respect.

[babyB]

with my late husband, may he RIP,
i lead the prosession with my hat on my head.
those that followed too had hats on their heads
(at least i think they all did).
It was our respest to have them there,
he would have told us off for not havin them their

etiquette continued when i slowed,
they all dam near stopped.
up beside me our best mates came,
to share my load so we ride on.


nz has many cultures here. what is right for one maybe frowned on by another. we are adaptable ppl with respect and etiquitte to follow

[stify]

But no-one bothers with such niceties nowadays, or even remembers them

Went to my brothers funeral two weks ago in Wanganui, traffic stopped and gave way to the procession, was a nice to see, no bother at all it seemed.

[sunhuntin]

ix...i always pull over when i see a funeral...something taught to me by my mother. i was unaware of the lids off idea though...will remember that for next time. i have ridden with my pegs down though. when riding in tanias funeral...not a single car stopped for us [never mind the hearse wasnt in front of us, but we were a slow procession, so was obvious anyway...dunno where the hearse went, it left before we did, but we arrived first.]

so, a few of us younger ones remember and honor the fallen.:niceone:

[scumdog]

Always make sure the other traffic stop when I'm on point duty at a funeral - look like a spastic on 'P' with my arm waving but they all stop.:yeah:

And oh yeah, see the EDIT on #4 of this thread.

[Big Chim]

i'd hat off at slow speeds

[MSTRS]

That's a pity,I thought it was about respect.
If the family of the departed expect lids off, then fair enough as a sign of repect for their wishes. But if there is no expectation from them, then there are many other ways of showing respect for the the departed. Pegs down being one of them.

[Jantar]

Always lids off in a funeral procession.

And always stand for a silent moment on the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month.:hitcher:

[myvice]

Lid off, lights on, pegs down.

[Waylander]

Always lids off in a funeral procession.

And always stand for a silent moment on the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month.:hitcher:

Exactlywhat is that for anyway? Thought it was for the WTR attacks till I read the part about Ixion getting out of the car with his momwhen he was a kid. And then the real though kicked in that the WTR attack were in september not november.

[Ixion]

Never heard of Remembrance Day ? I thought it was big in the States ? Though I think you call it Veterans' day

11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month - the official ceasefire at the Armistice which (effectively) ended World War I.

Declared by King George V , in 1919, to be an official moment of remembrance for the fallen, throught the Empire.

Originally , everyone stopped what they were doing and stood silent, gentlemen at attention and uncovered, for one minute. After World War II the time was increased to two minutes.

[Waylander]

Well, having grown up in a country that hasn't been part of the 'empire' (star wars march anybody?) for more than a century, can't say I've ever experianced that. Veterans day is something wholey different and is more a marketing gimmick than anything else now. Must say I think I prefer Rememberance day better.

[janno]

[QUOTE=Ixion]Eheu, ichabod.

I remember about three years ago, on Nov 11, I was waiting in an airport gate lounge. Just before 11am.

Here in Aus the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month is a big deal and everything stops in the workplace. It's a very patriotic society over here and far from being jingoistic, it's kinda nice. Plenty of Aussies are still fairly twitchy about the poms because of the Singapore disaster. Still very close to the bone.

I'm female, but even so I would still ride helmet on. I'm sure my skull would still split at 30km as that's the speed of a galloping horse and I sure as dammit don't ride them without a lid. Pillion pegs down is a nice touch though.

[Highlander]

Hats off for the ANZAC dawn service too (that includes Beanies).

I make the kids stand for the National Anthem before test matches too.

[Sniper]

Lids off, pegs down for funerals, thats my opinion unless told by the family its a no.

[Lias]

Thankfully never had to attend a biker funeral, but lids off pegs down sounds good to me. If the families wishs differ thou, you should of course follow them.

Traffic was fairly well behaved when we buried my sister many years ago, and that was a pretty long drive (Brooklyn to Makara). Probably just as well as any offenders would probably have gotten roadraged quite nicely.