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ManDownUnder
20th February 2006, 10:12
I note a letter in our local paper that the local council is seeking (and seems to be getting) support from Transit ad whoever else to amke the Coatesville Riverhead highway an 80kph speed limit.

AAARRRRGGGHHHH!. My fav bit of road - so much fun, at 80!

bastards

Grahameeboy
20th February 2006, 10:18
Is it an accident spot? 100k is safe on that road........not a busy road either.....geeze....one of my favs too if you want to go for a shortie n evening....

oldrider
20th February 2006, 10:21
The sooner this bunch of, run your life for you, rule makers are out of office the better.
That goes for all their lookalike wannabies in local government too!:argh: John. (F*ckin socialists, I hate them)

Keystone19
20th February 2006, 10:24
NO NO NO NO NO...

My daily commute will not be the same...

Being the law abiding citizen I am my pleasurable ride to and from work will just take that much longer...

Devil
20th February 2006, 10:25
Ahhrgg! Not that road!

Must be your commuting jill...

chickenfunkstar
20th February 2006, 10:54
I usually don't see too many cops on that road though, maybe the occasional one at riverhead with his laser out but thats about it. Still, it would suck to lose your liscence for anything over 120km/h.

They've been talking about reducing the speed limit on that road for ages.

bugjuice
20th February 2006, 10:59
I can just about manage that on one wheel.. I'll get better tho.

Lower speed limits give me more time to practice my wheelies. Please think of this when lowering the speed limits.
And also, please pay for more tyres for me. I also need more traffic lights, cos my power-wheelies-from-stand-starts are coming along too.

TygerTung
20th February 2006, 11:01
I think they should reduce it on all open roads to 80, this would result in better fuel consumption, therefore reducing New Zealands oil usage.

Grahameeboy
20th February 2006, 11:04
I can just about manage that on one wheel.. I'll get better tho.

Lower speed limits give me more time to practice my wheelies. Please think of this when lowering the speed limits.
And also, please pay for more tyres for me. I also need more traffic lights, cos my power-wheelies-from-stand-starts are coming along too.

Haven't you heard of BMX parks Mr BG?:yeah:

Grahameeboy
20th February 2006, 11:05
Gay :thud:

Toilet....................

bugjuice
20th February 2006, 11:08
Haven't you heard of BMX parks Mr BG?:yeah:
BMX parks kinda get small when you get over 140kph on the wheel..

HDTboy
20th February 2006, 11:32
Time to start thinking about runners MDU

Bonez
20th February 2006, 15:48
I think they should reduce it on all open roads to 80, this would result in better fuel consumption, therefore reducing New Zealands oil usage.
Agreed, and revert the roads back to gravel. This will reduce road usage and slow down traffic even further.

ManDownUnder
20th February 2006, 16:11
Agreed, and revert the roads back to gravel. This will reduce road usage and slow down traffic even further.

And we should all ride horses... save completely on the oil (bycciles need oil on their chain's y'see - otherwise I'd have suggested them...)

Grahameeboy
20th February 2006, 16:28
And we should all ride horses... save completely on the oil (bycciles need oil on their chain's y'see - otherwise I'd have suggested them...)

Righto.....................just pollute the air with horse shit instead.......:killingme

madboy
20th February 2006, 20:09
I don't know the road so may need enlightening here. But if it's anything like some of the roads around here, they lower the limit, all the bikers/wannabe racers cry at the spilt milk, and keep riding it at the same speed. Which was far in excess of the 100k limit anyway. So now the limit is 80k, guess they're STILL speeding. So what's new?

Might suck in a car though, where tax evasion is not really a viable option.

Zed
20th February 2006, 20:16
What a pity! :argh:

jonbuoy
20th February 2006, 21:11
Damn :no: Another good road gone.............

Skyryder
20th February 2006, 21:15
The sooner this bunch of, run your life for you, rule makers are out of office the better.
That goes for all their lookalike wannabies in local government too!:argh: John. (F*ckin socialists, I hate them)

There is no way that this government can be called socialist. In fact they are the very opposite. The recent ammendments to the Land Transport Act bear this out. Labour have Given the Director of LTNZ carte blance to change and alter posted speed zones. There are going to be many rural roads that will have the 100 k limit changed to 80. This is not the Governments doing. What the Government has done, and this is in line with Labours Rodgernomic's philosophy, which is the antithesis of socilism.
Part 14 of the Land Transport Act 1998

185 Authority to be Crown Entity

Repealed

The Authority has been give a free hand to reach the Governments Road Safety Stratgy 2010. This document outlines the stratgeys in which the stated targets of no more that 300 fatlities and 4500 road injuries by 2010 are to be acheived. The link below gives some information. Just not too sure how up to date it is

http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/strategy-2010/strategy-content.html


Further to the 'privatisation' of our highways.

Not many people are aware that provisions are now in place for road tolls.

This is from the Land Transport Management Act 2003

http://www.legislation.govt.nz/libraries/contents/om_isapi.dll?clientID=197449820&infobase=pal_statutes.nfo&jump=a2003-118%2fs.46&softpage=DOC#JUMPDEST_a2003-118/s.46

46.Authority to establish road tolling scheme—





(1)The Governor-General may, by Order in Council made on the recommendation of the Minister, establish a road tolling scheme to provide funds that may be applied by or on behalf of a public road controlling authority for the purposes of—


(a)1 or more of the following activities, namely, the planning, design, supervision, construction, maintenance, or operation of a new road; and


(b)meeting any conditions or requirements set out in the order.


(2)An order under subsection (1) must—


(a)describe (so far as is practicable)—


(i)the new road, or part of it, in respect of which the toll revenue may be applied; and


(ii)the road or roads that may be tolled (being the new road and, if the order so provides, a road that meets the requirements of section 48(2)), or the part or parts of those roads that may be tolled; and


(b)set out any conditions that must be met to the satisfaction of the Minister, being—


(i)any conditions that must be met before the public road controlling authority or toll operator may begin tolling; and


(ii)any other conditions that apply; and


(c)set out a process by which the Minister will confirm whether he or she is satisfied that the relevant conditions to be met before tolling may begin have been met.


(3)An order made under subsection (1) may (without limitation)—


(a)set tolls, or empower the public road controlling authority or toll operator to set tolls within the maximum limit, or according to the method, set out in the order:


(b)provide for different levels of tolls to be levied in respect of different classes of person or motor vehicles, different times or days, different directions of travel, or different methods of payment, or to be levied on any other differential basis:


(c)grant exemptions from the obligation to pay tolls under the scheme (whether on a basis referred to in paragraph (b) or on any other basis specified in the order), and empower the public road controlling authority or toll operator to grant exemptions (which power is subject to any limitations set out in the order):


(d)state how the tolls are to be collected:


(e)specify any information that the toll operator or the public road controlling authority is required to provide to the Minister or any other specified person or organisation:


(f)authorise the enforcement authority to have access to law enforcement information held by a holder agency under the Privacy Act 1993, and set out terms and conditions governing that access:


(g)require the public road controlling authority to prepare a demand management plan in accordance with the order:


(h)specify civil penalties for breach of conditions referred to in subsection (2)(b)(ii), and establish a procedure for resolving disputes about the application of those penalties:


(i)require notice of the Minister's confirmation of the matters referred to in subsection (2)(c) to be published in the manner set out in the order.


(4)An order made under subsection (1) is a regulation for the purposes of the Regulations (Disallowance) Act 1989 and the Acts and Regulations Publication Act 1989.


(5)Before recommending that an order made under subsection (1) be amended or revoked, the Minister must consult the relevant public road controlling authority about his or her proposal.


(6)This section does not limit any other Act that provides for tolls to be levied or collected in respect of any road.


Labour learnt from mistakes with Rodgernomics. They talked about it too much and people became informed. Now this government does the very opposite they stay silent, and to such an extent that many still believe that Labour stands for socialism. Nothing could be further from the truth. This government has no concerns about the welfare of its citizens. It sees stats, economic indicators, and other dubious measerments as markers of success.

Skyryder

oldrider
21st February 2006, 19:27
There is no way that this government can be called socialist. In fact they are the very opposite. Skyryder
Really! :blip:

Socialism n.

1) A political and economic theory which advocates that the community as a whole should own and control the means of production, distribution and exchange.

2)Policy or practice based on this theory!

IE: All of our current political Parties offering themselves for office in this country, with the exception perhaps, of the "Libertarianz".

This country is full of bloody socialists! All trying to rule our lives in their own interest!

Freedom of the individual and promotion of personal responsibility are not on their agenda.

They just keep on making new blanket rules for everyone even though they cant even "Police" the old ones effectively.

Soon they will choke the roads entirely with their stupid rules just to satisfy their will to control everything, most of all "US"!

Socialists are eroding our freedom more and more, every minute of the day! :kick: And not just on the roads! :slap: (Rant over) John.

Keystone19
21st February 2006, 19:40
Just to play devils advocate for a moment...many of the roads where the speed limit may be decreased to 80kph were built/sealed/aligned when the speed limit was 80 anyway. Driving sure hasn't improved since then even if the cars have, what's really going to change anyway?

Re: the road in question, it's a pretty rare day that I find a cage driving at more than 90kph on it anyway - 70kph seems to be the maximum speed for most of the punters...

Pixie
21st February 2006, 21:47
Righto.....................just pollute the air with horse shit instead.......:killingme
Horseshit doesn't stay in the air,it accelerates at 32 feet/sec/sec towards the earths center of mass.

Lou Girardin
22nd February 2006, 07:27
Really! :blip:

Socialism n.

1) A political and economic theory which advocates that the community as a whole should own and control the means of production, distribution and exchange.


I can't think of a major party advocating this.
However, the assumption of control over every aspect of our lives otherwise smacks of a nanny state fascism.

Grahameeboy
22nd February 2006, 07:30
Horseshit doesn't stay in the air,it accelerates at 32 feet/sec/sec towards the earths center of mass.

No time to duck then??

Grahameeboy
22nd February 2006, 07:36
Just to play devils advocate for a moment...many of the roads where the speed limit may be decreased to 80kph were built/sealed/aligned when the speed limit was 80 anyway. Driving sure hasn't improved since then even if the cars have, what's really going to change anyway?

Re: the road in question, it's a pretty rare day that I find a cage driving at more than 90kph on it anyway - 70kph seems to be the maximum speed for most of the punters...

Agree and we all break the speed limit so why are we really worried about 1 stretch of road when there are plenty of others where we are exposed to pings........thats 1010 posts and my first whore point thank you..chur ching

avrflr
22nd February 2006, 07:45
Agree and we all break the speed limit so why are we really worried about 1 stretch of road when there are plenty of others where we are exposed to pings........thats 1010 posts and my first whore point thank you..chur ching

Because, as someone pointed out, 120ks is about right for all of those lovely 55k bends. Plus a few ks accelerating out of the corner, as you do, and that ticket is going to be painful.

Grahameeboy
22nd February 2006, 07:48
Because, as someone pointed out, 120ks is about right for all of those lovely 55k bends. Plus a few ks accelerating out of the corner, as you do, and that ticket is going to be painful.

tis life my friend...........

Zed
22nd February 2006, 09:38
...we all break the speed limit so why are we really worried about 1 stretch of road ...Because that particular road is an awesome stretch of motorcycling paradise that is extremely enjoyable to ride a little faster, and a number of us do ride it regularly. I probably wouldn't care if it wasn't right in my back yard and the road I often ride home on from a hard day at work. Also because if they make it 80kms any one of us could now lose our licence under the new law if caught doing 121kms! :spudwhat:

ManDownUnder
22nd February 2006, 09:46
Because that particular road is an awesome stretch of motorcycling paradise that is extremely enjoyable to ride a little faster, and a number of us do ride it regularly. I probably wouldn't care if it wasn't right in my back yard and the road I often ride home on from a hard day at work. Also because if they make it 80kms any one of us could now lose our licence under the new law if caught doing 121kms! :spudwhat:

...couldn't have put it better myself...

Grahameeboy
22nd February 2006, 09:50
Because that particular road is an awesome stretch of motorcycling paradise that is extremely enjoyable to ride a little faster, and a number of us do ride it regularly. I probably wouldn't care if it wasn't right in my back yard and the road I often ride home on from a hard day at work. Also because if they make it 80kms any one of us could now lose our licence under the new law if caught doing 121kms! :spudwhat:

I see your point (and frustation) but it still isn't a major when you can go for rides other days.........

Lou Girardin
23rd February 2006, 07:12
I see your point (and frustation) but it still isn't a major when you can go for rides other days.........

How does timing affect the speed limit?
Do you know which days the cops are on this road?
C'mon, share with the group.