gsxr1000k2 vs zx12, roll ons

[kiwifruit]

had a bit of a play with a mate of mine yesterday, roll on races
started out with top gear roll on from 100kmh
then 5th gear from 100kmh
then 4th gear from 100kmh
then 3rd from 100kmh
then 2nd from 70kmh
his bike (2005 kawasaki zx12) has a full yoshi exhaust, k&n and power commander
my bike (2002 suzuki gsxr1000) has full yoshi exhaust, yoshi cams, k&n and stock ecu
both stock gearing
both of us are within 5kg of each other, around 80-85kg

soooo, what do ya recon??
who won what?

will let you know the results after i see a few educated guesses
Regards, Allan.

ps. All testing was done under controlled conditions, on private closed roads.

[onearmedbandit]

Fuck I had a theory all worked out then convinced myself otherwise! I'll be interested to see the results though, out of curiosity.

[Sensei]

From riding a ZX12R & owning a K3 I'd say it would be pretty close , may even say the GSXR could have done better in the top couple of gears , will be interested to see . :sweatdrop

[WINJA]

the variable that concerns me is the power commander , was it donald or mickey that set it up?

[Darkman]

I would guess that the Zx12 would take the 2nd and 3rd race...loads of torque down there. In 4th and 5th it would not be very good..very low revs at that speed...cant wait to hear what happened..

[WINJA]

ok id say the gixxer in all gears except the 5th gear one , did you do a test in second at 140 , cause then id definately say gixxer

[Two Smoker]

6th, 5th, 4th: ZX-12R from a 100kmh bigger cubes results in more torque down low, and the GSX-R1000 has cams...

3rd and 2nd: GSX-R1000... Keen as to see results though...

[Sniper]

What Two Smoker said.

[Lazy7]

what i'm more interested in is where you find these long straight sealed "Private closed" roads...

i would LOVE to get my hands on one. you could infact sell me a ticket. $200 for a day on your long straight private closed road. especially if its long enough to open a 1000 in top gear!

[The Stranger]

So I think it's safe to assume you did ok, or you probably woulda shut up.
And the bigger engine should develop torque lower so I would say the Kawasaki in 5 & 6, the Suzi in the rest.

[Teflon]

Have to go with the GSXR. ZX has more torque but it weighs a shit load more than the GSXR.

[kiwifruit]

ok guys
first of all, there was Bugger all in any of the wins, one bike length at the most.

6th gear from 100 - zx12 wins, by the biggest margin of any of the tests. one bike length at 260km/h (indicated). pulled pretty hard away from me in the first few seconds, then stayed the same distance up2 260.

5th gear from 100 - gsxr wins. wtf? wasn't expecting to get this one after getting pipped in top. maybe its the gearing differences? gsxr slowly pulled away for the first few seconds then stayed the same distance up to red line in 5th. only half a bike length in it.

4th gear from 100 - even. there was nothing in it! did it a few times with the same result. dead even right up to redline.

3rd gear from 100 - gsxr wins. not by bugger all. around half a bike length.

2nd gear - gsxr wins. by bugger all again. a few hundred mm at the most. prolly would have been more if it had a little less wheelspin.

conclusion:
well, i dont really know what to conclude! The zx12 has more torque i guess, being a bigger donk, there was so little in it in all tests. I must say i was pretty happy with the results, i don't know how happy my mate was with my 2002 thou hanging with his 2005 1200! hehe.

next time we will video our "tests" for your viewing pleasure :)

cheers, Allan.

[Sensei]

What can ya say !! GSXR1000 Wins the day again :2thumbsup . Power to weight is the key factor here .

[Madmax]

Has anyone had a go against a ZX10R?

[WINJA]

Has anyone had a go against a ZX10R?
THEY TRIED BUT THE ENGINE SHIT ITSELF

[kiwifruit]

Did the same test against the same zx12 with the same rider on the weekend, on my new bike......
any guesses as to how that went? :innocent:


( btw, the k2 thou DIDN'T have yoshi cams or a full exhaust D-:<, felt a little ripped off when i found that out )

[Fishy]

I reckon your 10R would have been quicker in every gear.

[Crazy Steve]

Slower in every gear!!!

Crazy Steve..

[Whynot]

faster in the odd numbered gears ..... :innocent:

[saul]

Did the same test against the same zx12 with the same rider on the weekend, on my new bike......
any guesses as to how that went? :innocent:


( btw, the k2 thou DIDN'T have yoshi cams or a full exhaust D-:<, felt a little ripped off when i found that out )

I think that the zx12 rider will be sick of you coming around to humilate him:yes: :rockon: lol

[kiwifruit]

I think that the zx12 rider will be sick of you coming around to humilate him:yes: :rockon: lol

You assume the zx10r had the advantage then? :shutup:

[beyond]

Awww cmon mate, tell us! tell us! :)

[kiwifruit]

ok :D

standard zx10r vs my mates zx12:
in short, the 12 was faster.

6th - zx12 pulls away, 1 bike length
5th - as above
4th - zx12 by half a bike length, i start to reel him in towards the redline
3rd - as above
2nd - zx12 smoked me by 2 lengths
this gutted me! I was sure i was going to at least keep up......
sure, the 12 has a few minor mods, but i honestly thought i had him..... sure FELT faster than my gixxer

[saul]

You assume the zx10r had the advantage then? :shutup:

If you did the same tests that you did last time and you are -1 at the front, I would think that your tourquey beast should have done the damage.:innocent: :done:

Bloody hell emergency edit :-)

Very interesting result. How could that be??????

[kiwifruit]

modified zx10r (pc3, TRE, pipe, filter, dyno'd@169, -1 on the front) vs my mates zx12:
in short, the 10 was heaps faster :D

6th - zx10 pulled away hard, i even sat up, heh heh 5+ bike lengths
5th - as above
4th - as above, but more so
3rd - as above, but even more so
2nd - as above once it stopped spinning

Finally!
I smoke the nemesis zx12, phew....

now my mate is talking about getting a 06 zx10 or a k5 - k6 gixxer thou EEKKK!!!
looks like that super charger will be happening sooner rather than later :cool:



the arms race continues......

[kiwifruit]

If you did the same tests that you did last time and you are -1 at the front, I would think that your tourquey beast should have done the damage.:innocent: :done:

Bloody hell emergency edit :-)

Very interesting result. How could that be??????


rider skill?

na, the stock bike just couldnt do it
with a TRE and -1 on the front it would have been pretty even i recon

[DMNTD]

THEY TRIED BUT THE ENGINE SHIT ITSELF
Nah not engine man....gearbox!


the 12 has a few minor mods, but i honestly thought i had him...
A bit surprising but at least it was the right flavour eh.
Would be keen to try mine out sometime too dude if ya keen.

[kiwifruit]

Would be keen to try mine out sometime too dude if ya keen.

keen as sir! :)

[saul]

keen as sir! :)

Hey I would keen to:rockon: as long as the roll on was over the first three gears:shit:

Now where is that private road again?

[kiwifruit]

we'll do it over the x-mas break :) :scooter:

[DMNTD]

we'll do it over the x-mas break :) :scooter:
Sounds good...thank fark my bike ain't green :dodge:

[kiwifruit]

Sounds good...thank fark my bike ain't green :dodge:

oi! green is the fastest colour..... there is a scientific explanation, i just don't know what it is

[Fishy]

oi! green is the fastest colour..... there is a scientific explanation, i just don't know what it is

Green is third bro, haven't you heard the song?

Mah is white, wheto is black, kakareke green, kowhai yellow etc etc etc

yeah I know my Maori spelling is bad.

[kiwifruit]

Green is third bro, haven't you heard the song?

Mah is white, wheto is black, kakareke green, kowhai yellow etc etc etc

yeah I know my Maori spelling is bad.

LOL!!
you're a shocker bro :lol:

Ma is white
Whero is red
Kakariki green
Mango is black
Pango is too
A E I O U

[saul]

Sounds good...thank fark my bike ain't green :dodge:

Yep yer bike aint green (my green is best):dodge: and there is only one s-perm-n:rockon:

[Fishy]

LOL!!
you're a shocker bro :lol:

Ma is white
Whero is red
Kakariki green
Mango is black
Pango is too
A E I O U

hahahaha yeah I never really payed much attention at school, well I did but my attention was more focused on the view up the girlies skirts thanks to the piece of mirror between my shoe laces :devil2:

[madandy]

These beats sound faaarkin faaaast...any chance of a 100-250 time in seconds?

[kiwifruit]

These beats sound faaarkin faaaast...any chance of a 100-250 time in seconds?

i'll strap the tank cam on 4 you soon :)

[BarBender]

modified zx10r (pc3, TRE, pipe, filter, dyno'd@169, -1 on the front) vs my mates zx12:
in short, the 10 was heaps faster :D

6th - zx10 pulled away hard, i even sat up, heh heh 5+ bike lengths
5th - as above
4th - as above, but more so
3rd - as above, but even more so
2nd - as above once it stopped spinning

Finally!
I smoke the nemesis zx12, phew....

now my mate is talking about getting a 06 zx10 or a k5 - k6 gixxer thou EEKKK!!!
looks like that super charger will be happening sooner rather than later :cool:



the arms race continues......


Bugger!!! A 10/12 duke off and the 12 gets smashed?!?!

Clearly your mate must have put on weight....was unwell....or his bike was not right after someone fiddled with the PC...his side of the track was greasy............

[kiwifruit]

well actually i've put on wieght..... :innocent:


These beats sound faaarkin faaaast...any chance of a 100-250 time in seconds?

7ish seconds
(please note the following was filmed on a closed private road)

[2much]

( btw, the k2 thou DIDN'T have yoshi cams or a full exhaust D-:<, felt a little ripped off when i found that out )

but it does bounce! :innocent:

[kiwifruit]

but it does bounce! :innocent:

:-o
my poor baby! :cry:

[2much]

:-o
my poor baby! :cry:

ahhh quit your crying, she'll be back badder than ever soon enuf!

however being bikeless right now im starting to get withdrawl symptoms..... ya know how you said i could take the zx for a thrash? ;).............

[kiwifruit]

you are one of the few i would allow to take her out and thrash,
feel free.

[BarBender]

well actually i've put on wieght..... :innocent:

Talk about rubbing it in...:weep:

7ish seconds
(please note the following was filmed on a closed private road)

Yep ...its quick alright. Pulling nicely in 2nd and 4th.

What size sproket are you running on the rear?

[madandy]

well actually i've put on wieght..... :innocent:



7ish seconds
(please note the following was filmed on a closed private road)

That's bloody fantastic!!!!!! 180 in 2nd, 225 in 3rd...Thanks a lot, that's forkin brilliant....:rockon: My Woman say"...you aint gettin one of those bikes..." :eek:

Oh and my what a long driveway you have sir:sunny:

[kiwifruit]

That's bloody fantastic!!!!!! 180 in 2nd, 225 in 3rd...Thanks a lot, that's forkin brilliant....:rockon: My Woman say"...you aint gettin one of those bikes..." :eek:

Oh and my what a long driveway you have sir:sunny:
glad you liked it :D :innocent:



Yep ...its quick alright. Pulling nicely in 2nd and 4th.

What size sproket are you running on the rear?

its stock on the rear, 46 i believe

[saul]

ahhh quit your crying, she'll be back badder than ever soon enuf!

however being bikeless right now im starting to get withdrawl symptoms..... ya know how you said i could take the zx for a thrash? ;).............

Nice :rockon: :yes: