Wellington Newbie ride Sunday 12 March

[Uncle B]

This is a chance for newer riders to get togeather and head out on an organised ride.
THIS IS NOT A RACE.....we don't want anybody crashing as it will be a fun day out.
Go at your own pace, there will be people who will wait for you.
Make sure your bike is road legal ie: warrant, rego, chain oiled and adjusted, tyres the correct pressure......

Townies: Meet at the caltex truck stop Hutt road Kaiwharawhara 10:15am for 10:30am departure.
All others meet at Caltex Rimutaka 11:00am for 11:20am departure.

LETS MAKE THIS A GREAT DAY

Also looking for experienced riders to help out with back markers and to share riding tips and any questions the newbies might ask.


I have been asked about the "L" plate debate. I cannot enforce the usage of "L" plates but do point out the consequences if caught.
The "L"s will be catered for by having their own group with an experienced rider who will know the determined route.

See you there :niceone:

[knight rider]

I'll be there & I am a learner rider so will have to display my L plate. keep an eye out for the black cbr250rr

[skelstar]

Good stuff Uncle_B...will probably be there.

[Charlie]

Excellent - but I may have round 2 of hockey trials Sunday 12th... will see if I can wu the pants off them this weekend (yeah right) and skip the 2nd trial so I can ride!
Thanks Uncle B - I'm keen!

[Str8 Jacket]

Sounds good Uncle B. Ive got a party to go to the night before so i'll see how im feeling!

[Kendog]

Should have the long awaited new shock in my bike done by then, so both of us should be able to come along this time. Looking forward to it! Yet again Uncle B keeps us happy!! :yeah:
Mrs KD

[phoenixgtr]

Good one Uncle B :first:

Although I may be in Palmy that weekend. Will have to update next week.

On a side note: I finally became a senior member today. Yeehaa!! Here I come bigger avatar and stuff :D

EDIT: Although I'm having trouble deciding what to put as my title

[COP_B8]

Hey guys Ill come along, If anyone from up the coast of Whitby/Porirua etc... wants to cruise over ill leave Challenge Pauhatahanui at 1030

[crazefox]

Should be there as well

[Jamezo]

sweet, should be able to make this one.

going to Featherston again?

[Hawkeye]

Sounds good to me. Need to do a bit re-arranging to free the afternoon but as I've missed out on the last two that were arranged, I will hopefully be there. I'm in Tawa. I'm sure there may a few of us on this side of the hill to organise a group ride over the Haywards to get to the main meet.
Will confirm attendence later next week.

[knight rider]

Hey guys Ill come along, If anyone from up the coast of Whitby/Porirua etc... wants to cruise over ill leave Challenge Pauhatahanui at 1030

I'll be leaving just before 10am cause i wana meet everyone at the truck stop down the gorge. only have learners so i stay off the motor way as much as I can & will be going through tawa, johnsonville (backroad) then down the gorge. You wana ride down together?

[knight rider]

if anyone wants to meet up from these areas & ride down the gorge together I will be at BP tawa from 9:45-10am look out for the black cbr250rr. will be traveling the back road from tawa - johnsonville then down the gorge to meet the rest of the riders. If your keen I'll see you there. will be parked on the main road

[Hawkeye]

if anyone wants to meet up from these areas & ride down the gorge together I will be at BP tawa from 9:45-10am look out for the black cbr250rr. will be traveling the back road from tawa - johnsonville then down the gorge to meet the rest of the riders. If your keen I'll see you there. will be parked on the main road

I live on the hill overlooking the BP. Even if I can't make the ride, I'll pop down and say hello.

[COP_B8]

Okay then, BP Tawa at 945 - sounds like a plan, I havent riden the backroad between tawa/jphnsonville for a while (last time there was heaps of roadworks) :angry2:

[knight rider]

the road is quiet good at the moment down the back road. I travel it 2 times a day 5 times a week. (live in porirua & work in johnsonville) I love the twisty road

[sels1]

the road is quiet good at the moment down the back road. I travel it 2 times a day 5 times a week. (live in porirua & work in johnsonville)

Memories......ask me sometime about the "Glenside Movies"

Calender marked, Uncle B :niceone:

[madmal64]

I should be able to make it. I will probably meet up with the group at Tawa and head in from there.
Im going to the Hill climb on Saturday so all going well I will be back for another ride on the Sunday. Maybe we could go to the hill climb for a look see? Anyone else got thoughts about that?
I know its a newbie ride and I thought It may be and idea for a desination.

[knight rider]

I should be able to make it. I will probably meet up with the group at Tawa and head in from there.
Im going to the Hill climb on Saturday so all going well I will be back for another ride on the Sunday. Maybe we could go to the hill climb for a look see? Anyone else got thoughts about that?
I know its a newbie ride and I thought It may be and idea for a desination.

will be going to tawa from Elsdon so if you wana ride there togethr let me know. I'm in Rangituhi cres

[Dafe]

I think we should head out to the hill climb. Should be some pretty awesome viewing there.
I'm definately headed to the hillclimb.
If the newbie ride is headed there, I'll tag along.

[Velox]

I'll prob head over the hill in the mid-late arvo so I'll text you UB to see if you're all still out or not.

[StoneChucker]

*lurking...*

[Shadows]

I think we should head out to the hill climb. Should be some pretty awesome viewing there.
I'm definately headed to the hillclimb.
If the newbie ride is headed there, I'll tag along.

Me three. What is the destination?

[KLOWN]

I really wanna be there, if my bike is back together i'll be there with bells on, and hoppefully my mate will come too.

[madmal64]

Me three. What is the destination?
Here it is http://www.cdd.co.nz/hillclimb.htm
I thought it may be a good place for the newbie ride. Its a good ride out and back.

[Dreamer]

I'll be there. Add my vote to the lets watch the hill climb. I notice you didn't include oil in your check list ;)

[Uncle B]

I'll be there. Add my vote to the lets watch the hill climb. I notice you didn't include oil in your check list ;)

Do I need to mention the oil thing Dreamer? Good point tho, Please check you oil as well cause a certain KB member found out the value of having oil in the motor :Pokey:

Hill climb sounds like a great idea, I'd be keen for a look too.

[Dafe]

What average hillclimb speed do you reakon you'll get upto Uncle B?
Shame they're not running a night stage this year eh. :rofl:

[madmal64]

Yeah, you seen the averages from last year?
The highest is just over 180 km from memory. Thats a bloody good average:blip:

[ferretface]

Sounds great - i'll be there if the weather is kind. Just got a new bike and haven't ridden properly in 8 years so class myself as a bit of a newbie

[hunt]

hi all, i'd like to join in too, as long as no one minds a british bike amongst the ranks

[Hawkeye]

the road is quiet good at the moment down the back road. I travel it 2 times a day 5 times a week. (live in porirua & work in johnsonville) I love the twisty road

Yeh! I travel that way everyday (Tawa - Wellington) Love the curves. Just hate the traffic once I get to J'Ville. Too many ignorant cagers.

Coming home is always fun as the road tends to be quiet so I get to practice my lines.:ride:

[Uncle B]

hi all, i'd like to join in too, as long as no one minds a british bike amongst the ranks
No worries, all are welcome, even...cough...cough....British bikes.

See you Sunday

[madmal64]

hi all, i'd like to join in too, as long as no one minds a british bike amongst the ranks
Look forward to it! The more the merrier:yeah:
A 72 Tiger, you may win the oldest bike comp but British, Italian, Japanese, Korean, American, well anything is welcome.

[hunt]

No worries, all are welcome, even...cough...cough....British bikes.

See you Sunday

great I'll be there, and no need to worry, i always give the missus the van keys in case, i um, run out of gas or something

[hunt]

Look forward to it! The more the merrier:yeah:
A 72 Tiger, you may win the oldest bike comp but British, Italian, Japanese, Korean, American, well anything is welcome.

thanks madmal64, its old alright, i dont know what i was thinking when i built it,
for what it cost me, i could of got something maybe a bit more what would the word be maybe, sensible

[knight rider]

Yeh! I travel that way everyday (Tawa - Wellington) Love the curves. Just hate the traffic once I get to J'Ville. Too many ignorant cagers.

Coming home is always fun as the road tends to be quiet so I get to practice my lines.:ride:

there's a bit of a bump in the road when coming from johnsonville - tawa. About half way there's a house on the left hand side. That bump caught me off guard the frist time I rode it.

[Charlie]

2 more sleeps! YAY!

[sels1]

hi all, i'd like to join in too, as long as no one minds a british bike amongst the ranks


You wont have the only Triumph Tiger there....but maybe the oldest!

[sels1]

No worries, all are welcome, even...cough...cough....British bikes.


:Oi: thats enough cheek from you.......:laugh:

[madmal64]

You wont have the only Triumph Tiger there....but maybe the oldest!
Ah! glad to see your coming along sels1 I will save my Triumph quips for another time then, since I know your gets along ok:cool:

[Wasp]

I'll be along too, (im picking up the Bandit on saturday morn if all goes smoothly).

So yea, i'll be taking it pretty cruisy.

[Paul in NZ]

thanks madmal64, its old alright, i dont know what i was thinking when i built it,
for what it cost me, i could of got something maybe a bit more what would the word be maybe, sensible

Hell yes, You could have picked up a nice '58 Thunderbird or something...

Pah! '72 ain't OLD... It's just mature.. Ridden like it was inteded they still go pretty well... I'm amazed how good a condition the inside of my '70 was after all the abuse I gave it... This year IT WILL be finished (cough cough)

Paul N

[phoenixgtr]

I'm not gonna make it tomorrow :(

I'm headed up to Palmy tonight and won't be back in time. I'll prop be out on Wednesday tho, so Wasp make sure you come out then so I can check out your new bike!!

[Str8 Jacket]

Wanna go for a blat today then Tristan?

[phoenixgtr]

I would. It looks nice outside. It would have to be a reasonably short one though (between 1 and 4.30). Does that suit? It's not alot of time

[Str8 Jacket]

Doh, thought i'd pmed you... I'll text ya...

[Wasp]

thats ok, i loudly escorted him back into town.

hope the weather holds for tommorow!

[Slingshot]

*lurking...*

Typical....how you getting on?

[Slingshot]

Mrs S and I might pop along.

[Kendog]

Anyone want a pillion? :innocent: My bike is still in Hawera until next week and I'm having some major withdraw symptoms! :brick:
Mrs KD

[Dafe]

Yeah, Freakin damn fine looking day from where I'm hanging!!!:Punk: :headbang: :Punk:

Hosea Gear,this week - you is da man!!!!

[sels1]

Anyone want a pillion? :innocent: My bike is still in Hawera until next week and I'm having some major withdraw symptoms! :brick:
Mrs KD

I would offer, but already got back seat booked - but will get back to you if Spittie pikes out.

Just checked the weather radars, that southerly is still hovering over CHCH and and wont be here for ages....not even on the wgtn radar yet so looking good for most of the day

[Kendog]

Thanks sels. Weather looks great. If I don't get to go, hope you all have a great day out!:ride:

[Hawkeye]

Damm, It looks great out there but I can't re-arrange previous commitments. :cry:
I will try and get down to the meet at Tawa and join you until the Haywards lights. :chase: I need to be back in Tawa before 12. :(
It looks perfect. No wind, brilliant sunshine and good company.
If I don't catch up with you, enjoy the ride. :2thumbsup

[madmal64]

The day is looking good. I will meet at the Tawa BP as arranged earlier in the thread at 9.45 for a 10.00am away.
Looking forward to it. Hey Slingshot be good to catch up with you & Mrs S.

[Kendog]

HaHa, knew that would work!! Hubby has just decided that he'd rather have my 'carcass' on the back of his bike than someone elses, so has altered plans.:hug: lol. So will see you all in an hour or so, can't wait, is going to be a fab day for a ride!:2thumbsup

[knight rider]

what a beautiful day. I will be at tawa BP at 9:45 & be leaving at 10am. looks like a few people going to be there. will be fun

[hunt]

:no: aarrgh, snapped clutch cable just arriving to caltex servo, masses of bikes there, i'm missing a fun day out,,, hope everyone enjoys the ride

[Jamezo]

I had an AWESOME ride from Featherston to wherever-the-hell-that-thing-was. Cheers Uncle B.

Does anybody know how that biker was that crashed on the Hutt side of the Rimutakas?

[pauldarney]

Enjoyed the ride to Martinborough. But lost sunglasses around Martinborough so went back to look for them and lost everybody. If anybody found a pair of sunglasses around the Martinborough Park, I would love to get them back.

[Paul in NZ]

Just checked the weather radars, that southerly is still hovering over CHCH and and wont be here for ages....not even on the wgtn radar yet so looking good for most of the day

I think ya might have got that a bit wrong mate

[knight rider]

I had an AWESOME ride from Featherston to wherever-the-hell-that-thing-was. Cheers Uncle B.

Does anybody know how that biker was that crashed on the Hutt side of the Rimutakas?

I thought that was you that crashed. i got told it was the guy with his learners riding an RG150 ridding with the guy that had a black 636. Who ever it was I hope they're ok

[Dafe]

As I was riding two up, from the top of the hill back towards the hutt. I got overtaken by an Aprilia RSV 1000.
This guy overtook me through a completely blind corner and he was midpoint in the oncoming lane going into the corner.

Think again dude, coz had you been seconds later you'd have been collected by the truck that was coming into that corner and you'd not be feeling so good. Nor would I, coz you'd have been deflected straight back into myself and my wife, taking us out too.

However, I would have still had the ability to get up and lay a boot into your dead corpse.

What were you even thinking in the deteriorated/greasy road conditions?

Please, don't take rediculous risks fullstop!
Do yourself a favour and don't go putting other riders at risk!
Unfortunately, I didn't recognise this rider otherwise I would have given a dirty PM.

I do know it was NOT Kerry from Sawyers. It was somebody on a similar bike though.

[Charlie]

Awesome ride, thanks Uncle B! Shame about the rain and drizzel on our way home... and shame I chose to buy new boots last week instead of pants! Got a little chilly but had a great day. The big rides are paying off and I'm getting a lot more confident (and not so slow!). Great to meet some more riders. Looking forward to Wednesdays ride...
:spudwave:

[Paul in NZ]

As I was riding two up, from the top of the hill back towards the hutt. I got overtaken by an Aprilia RSV 1000.
This guy overtook me through a completely blind corner and he was midpoint in the oncoming lane going into the corner.

.

Probably the same dude that over took us and i thought i was being a bit dodgy on the way down.. fark he was close...

[Hawkeye]

Good to meet up with a few of you guys at Tawa. Sorry I couldn't stay for the whole ride but enjoyed the group ride to the bottom of Haywards anyway.
The ride over Haywards and around the inlet finished off what, for me, was a good ride.
I did feel rather underpowered on my little '85' 250 single when you left me for dead along the backroad :crybaby: Thankfully you did ease up so I could catch up :niceone:
Thanks again for an enjoyable (though short) ride.

[knight rider]

Good to meet up with a few of you guys at Tawa. Sorry I couldn't stay for the whole ride but enjoyed the group ride to the bottom of Haywards anyway.
The ride over Haywards and around the inlet finished off what, for me, was a good ride.
I did feel rather underpowered on my little '85' 250 single when you left me for dead along the backroad :crybaby: Thankfully you did ease up so I could catch up :niceone:
Thanks again for an enjoyable (though short) ride.

mines only a 250 aswell a cbr250rr. But no worries we always wait for people :zzzz:

[Charlie]

Hope the bike probs you were having qpideo are minor and short lived. Was funny following you, could see you urging your bike up hills! :argh:

[madmal64]

:no: aarrgh, snapped clutch cable just arriving to caltex servo, masses of bikes there, i'm missing a fun day out,,, hope everyone enjoys the ride
Oh so thats what happened, I saw you pull in then away again.:crybaby:
Next time!

[madmal64]

Enjoyed the ride to Martinborough. But lost sunglasses around Martinborough so went back to look for them and lost everybody. If anybody found a pair of sunglasses around the Martinborough Park, I would love to get them back.
Ah! and thats what happened to you also! You had them at the Flying fish last time I saw you with them

[knight rider]

Hope the bike probs you were having qpideo are minor and short lived. Was funny following you, could see you urging your bike up hills! :argh:
yeah I sometimes wonderd if I could push it up the hill faster :)) Thanks for keeping an eye on me charlie

[madmal64]

As I was riding two up, from the top of the hill back towards the hutt. I got overtaken by an Aprilia RSV 1000.
This guy overtook me through a completely blind corner and he was midpoint in the oncoming lane going into the corner.

Think again dude, coz had you been seconds later you'd have been collected by the truck that was coming into that corner and you'd not be feeling so good. Nor would I, coz you'd have been deflected straight back into myself and my wife, taking us out too.


I do know it was NOT Kerry from Sawyers. It was somebody on a similar bike though.
I watched you guys take off as I was finishing my coffee & saw the RSV overtake a car right on the summit corner and then continue to partake in some rather extreme overtaking on the way down.
I watched it pass you and sels1 and other small group. Not that clever from my view point either.

[hunt]

Oh so thats what happened, I saw you pull in then away again.:crybaby:
Next time!

For sure next time, with the amount of bikes there, was impressive, i had spent a couple of hours going over my bike, but hadnt thought to replace my 3 month old clutch cable, the angle of the dangle can;t be quite right,
is that a normal kiwibiker turnout?

[phoenixgtr]

Seems like you guys had a good day. Hope the two riders that binned it are ok. So how many bikes went?

[COP_B8]

Hey all, hope you had a good afternoon, I had a good morning, but had left my wallet at home, and had 3 missed calls from work, so thought it probably wasnt a good idea to test how many kms I can/cant get outta my tank.

Next time though, and was great to see such a good turnout.

[Uncle B]

Thanks to all who came along. Always great to see so many bikes lined up at Caltex Rimutaka.
The day started off warm and dry with a blue sky but ended up with a wet run back and a definite winter feel.
Pity the hill climb was cancelled due to the turn of weather.....didn't soil the always great ride out Gladstone way.
Hope those riders who came off are ok.

Once again thanks to all who support these rides.

Cheers

[knight rider]

Thanks to all who came along. Always great to see so many bikes lined up at Caltex Rimutaka.
The day started off warm and dry with a blue sky but ended up with a wet run back and a definite winter feel.
Pity the hill climb was cancelled due to the turn of weather.....didn't soil the always great ride out Gladstone way.
Hope those riders who came off are ok.

Once again thanks to all who support these rides.

Cheers

thanks uncle B

I'm looking forward to the next one, that's if i get my bike fixed in time

[knight rider]

Hey all, hope you had a good afternoon, I had a good morning, but had left my wallet at home, and had 3 missed calls from work, so thought it probably wasnt a good idea to test how many kms I can/cant get outta my tank.

Next time though, and was great to see such a good turnout.

I could've leant you some dough as You live out my way anyway

[sels1]

I think ya might have got that a bit wrong mate

1 - Not really, I was in fine weather for all but about 1.5 hrs - which is "most" of the day as predicted...
2 - Psychology 101......I wasnt go to start the day with "oh no, its going to rain...sometime...I think....etc...:msn-wink:

Anyhoo - another good day out folks - here's a couple of random pics

[sels1]

For sure next time, with the amount of bikes there, was impressive, i had spent a couple of hours going over my bike, but hadnt thought to replace my 3 month old clutch cable, the angle of the dangle can;t be quite right,
is that a normal kiwibiker turnout?

Aha...saw you turn up and then you had disappeared...bad luck eh?
Probably on the better side of normal (turnout) but not unusual to get that many on a good day

[Uncle B]

Thanks Sels for the pics and helping out today.

I saw Paul and Vicky heading back from the hill climb. Would have liked to say gidday to them as I haven't seen them for a while.

[sels1]

Thanks Sels for the pics and helping out today.

I saw Paul and Vicky heading back from the hill climb. Would have liked to say gidday to them as I haven't seen them for a while.

Yeah I hooked up with P&V at Featherstone and rode back to Raumati with them.
So what happened to you after we passed you when you were standing on the Carterton turnoff waving us thru? I went from having 4 bikes in my mirrors to 1...

[Hawkeye]

thanks uncle B

I'm looking forward to the next one, that's if i get my bike fixed in time


Hi qpideo, What happened to the bike? You were going along quite nicely between Tawa and the Haywards lights!

Sorry I couldn't stay with the group but prior commitments called. There's always the next time. But shit, you guys left me for dead along the back road at Tawa. You all just opened up and went past the white car as if it was standing still. And I thought...

shit, I ain't got the power to get past like that. I'm not sure who it was at the back of the group but thanks for staying with me until I got passed. :niceone: I'm normally quite happy to sit behind due to the lack of power.

[knight rider]

Hi qpideo, What happened to the bike? You were going along quite nicely between Tawa and the Haywards lights!

Sorry I couldn't stay with the group but prior commitments called. There's always the next time. But shit, you guys left me for dead along the back road at Tawa. You all just opened up and went past the white car as if it was standing still. And I thought...

shit, I ain't got the power to get past like that. I'm not sure who it was at the back of the group but thanks for staying with me until I got passed. :niceone: I'm normally quite happy to sit behind due to the lack of power.

yeah was good of you to come along. When over the rimutakas I lost proberly half of my power. Bike struggled to get up to speed, been back firing, has no power & seems to hickup. might be sparkplugs, bad fuel or carbies. gonna get it looked at tomorrow so i can fly through the backroad some more. Hope you come along to the next ride

[Uncle B]

Yeah I hooked up with P&V at Featherstone and rode back to Raumati with them.
So what happened to you after we passed you when you were standing on the Carterton turnoff waving us thru? I went from having 4 bikes in my mirrors to 1...
That was the last time I saw you as well. Charlie and I stopped as pauldarney had turned around to go back for his sunglasses. Then we arrived at water tower road to find the hill climb was cancelled so we carried onto Mast for gas....that's when the weather really packed up and everyone just wanted to go home.

[skelstar]

Was a good turn out. Well done to those 250s I was riding with. We all got back ok (except our 150 friend?) depsite the sh1t conditions on the hill. Was bit chilly when I left the top with VasWar and others. We ended up passing about 50 cars on the way down. That Horsefloat guy really should ahve pulled over.

Cheers Uncle B, you are a legend.

[knight rider]

Was a good turn out. Well done to those 250s I was riding with. We all got back ok (except our 150 friend?) depsite the sh1t conditions on the hill. Was bit chilly when I left the top with VasWar and others. We ended up passing about 50 cars on the way down. That Horsefloat guy really should ahve pulled over.

Cheers Uncle B, you are a legend.

yeah I go back ok............... well eventually :(

[jeff]

Yes, it was me.

I don't know what happened. The last thing I can remember was the steering shaking violently and trying to get it under control and the next thing I came to in an ambulance. I was only going slow round the corner because the road was quite wet.
Jeff was behind me and found me lying face down on the road out cold. Apparently I was out to it for some time.

I am home today, just aching and sore and my head still feels a bit groggy. My bike just needs a new footrest but I will have to get a new jacket because the people in the ambulance and A&E took to it with scissors and everything else I had on my top half.

I should be back on the bike in a few days.:sick:

Chrissie

Chrissie

[Paul in NZ]

Yes, it was me.

I don't know what happened. The last thing I can remember was the steering shaking violently and trying to get it under control and the next thing I came to in an ambulance. I was only going slow round the corner because the road was quite wet.
Jeff was behind me and found me lying face down on the road out cold. Apparently I was out to it for some time.

I am home today, just aching and sore and my head still feels a bit groggy. My bike just needs a new footrest but I will have to get a new jacket because the people in the ambulance and A&E took to it with scissors and everything else I had on my top half.

I should be back on the bike in a few days.:sick:

Chrissie

Chrissie

Glad to hear that you are up and about albeit a little sore.

I bet you will get 50,000 theories on what happened but thats for later on. Heal up, have a rest have fun and keep on keeping on Chrissie.

Best Regards
Paul and Vicki

ps - I bet Jeff was a worried bunny for a bit there...

[skelstar]

Good to hear you are ok Chrissie. Scary stuff.

[knight rider]

woohoo my bike is fixed & ready for the next ride. Turned out it was only the spark plugs

[Hawkeye]

woohoo my bike is fixed & ready for the next ride. Turned out it was only the spark plugs

Hi qpideo, where did you put the bike into? I'm looking to get mine serviced and tuned so I'm looking for somewhere good but cheap.
I've heard that the guy in J'ville is quite good. Any dealings with him?

[knight rider]

Hi qpideo, where did you put the bike into? I'm looking to get mine serviced and tuned so I'm looking for somewhere good but cheap.
I've heard that the guy in J'ville is quite good. Any dealings with him?

yeah that's where i got my bike fixed he also does the servicing on my bike. Richards motorcycles in Johnsonville. highly recomend this guy as he really knows his stuff

[VasalineWarrior]

Yep il second that. Decent mechanic who actualy knows what hes doing and wont charge you the earth. Whatever you do, dont go to maidstones in upper hutt

[knight rider]

Yep il second that. Decent mechanic who actualy knows what hes doing and wont charge you the earth. Whatever you do, dont go to maidstones in upper hutt

yeah he gives good advice to