loss of licence..

[texmo]

I just took dovers bike for a test ride (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=530653#post530653)

and to cut a long story short got done for bike over 250cc and I will lose my licence when I pay my fines, so I let it go for two months then get court thing let it go for a further month then what?

[willy_01]

bro did you lose your bike licence just for riding a bigger bike than 250cc ? or where you speeding hard out? your getting me worried (i ride a bike a bit over the 250cc limit)

[Quasievil]

I just took dovers bike for a test ride (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=530653#post530653)

and to cut a long story short got done for bike over 250cc and I will lose my licence when I pay my fines, so I let it go for two months then get court thing let it go for a further month then what?

I think youve said it all really mate

[texmo]

bro did you lose your bike licence just for riding a bigger bike than 250cc ? or where you speeding hard out? your getting me worried (i ride a bike a bit over the 250cc limit)
Nah I already have 80 or so demerits...

[Toast]

Nah I already have 80 or so demerits...

Man, been there last year, lost licence, never again wil I not check my mirrors. It made my insurance excess higher too...

[willy_01]

bugger! you should have gone down guns blazin, my guess is you would have got away due to your steads athletic abilities.

Arh well makes for a bloody good story, "yea lost my licence on a k6 gsxr1000"

[Psalm42]

I just took dovers bike for a test ride (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=530653#post530653)

and to cut a long story short got done for bike over 250cc and I will lose my licence when I pay my fines, so I let it go for two months then get court thing let it go for a further month then what?

Then you file under 78b of the Summary proceedings act, a declaration, saying you never got the reminder notice and if they are nice they start the proceedings again from scratch buying you another 2 months. Or so ive heard.
Or drag it out for ages in court, by asking annoying questions that no one seems to want to answer. Then you may catch a break and get a dismissal on failure to disclose, or want of prosecution. Chances are you will just get shafted. So just smile and pay. Dont try anything difficult just pay the tax and do the no license thing.
You must admit they do wear nicer uniforms than the other tax collectors.
:innocent:

[2much]

bro did you lose your bike licence just for riding a bigger bike than 250cc ? or where you speeding hard out? your getting me worried (i ride a bike a bit over the 250cc limit)

$400 and 25 demerits for that one if I remember correctly (been a while).

Texmo, there's no point delaying it. Just pay the fine and wait for the knock on the door. It's only 3 months and it'll be over winter.

You'll be surprised how many of us have been there. It just means you have to be a bit more wary for 3 months. The bonus is any points you incur between now and them taking you licence get wiped as well. So after the 3 months you've got a clean slate (for a short time anyway).

Just don't do what I did and get 80 points in 8 days:no:

[Quasievil]

Texmo, contact a lawyer go for full disclosure you need to ask for alot of things to do it right, it may be to hard for them and they wont proceed, or they will provide the evidence you requested but it will probably have holes in it.
send me your address and I wil send you a letter of what you need to say (as provided to me by my lawyer)
hey this is a game to them so you might as well play it, dont roll over and take anything from these pricks.

Im taking them on through the courts at the moment.

[sefer]

Then you file under 78b of the Summary proceedings act, a declaration, saying you never got the reminder notice and if they are nice they start the proceedings again from scratch buying you another 2 months. Or so ive heard.


If you just need to delay loosing it for a couple of months this is the way to go. 28 days for the original infringement, 28 days for the reminder notice, then go into the courts once it's been processed by them and they send you their letter(another 28 days from memory, BUT also adds court costs), then before those last days are up file the 78b (I never recived a reminder notice court offical guy..) and that will buy you a little more time, and may get rid of the court cost (but I'm not 99% on that point).

[HDTboy]

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[madboy]

I was under the impression that demerit points were added with effect from the date of offence, not from the date you paid the tax. They might physically get added to the "file" when you pay it, but the actual date of offence determines when the "100 points within 2 years" applies. So that means you should be screwed. Assuming no one makes an administrative error.

And quite frankly, if you were riding a K6 thou with NO NUMBERPLATE and got busted WITHOUT a chase... well I think you deserve what's coming. No offense intended mate, but an unidentifiable thou that belongs to Dover - FFS!!

[Mrs Busa Pete]

ok i heard a story that if you pay your fine leaveing say $10 still owing that drags it out because you have payed the bulk of the fine and they can't close the file untill all is payed and can't come for licence while file still open.But mate better to do 3 months over winter than over summer.

[Quasievil]

ok i heard a story that if you pay your fine leaveing say $10 still owing that drags it out because you have payed the bulk of the fine and they can't close the file untill all is payed and can't come for licence while file still open.But mate better to do 3 months over winter than over summer.

Negative sorry

[Sniper]

Shit mate, oh well, when you get the license back, you will have no demerits

[Nicksta]

Dude.... thats got to suck.... but hey... you did choose to ride a bike with no licence plate over your licenced cc limit.... there are always choices...

[Aitch]

Then you file under 78b of the Summary proceedings act, a declaration, saying you never got the reminder notice and if they are nice they start the proceedings again from scratch buying you another 2 months. Or so ive heard.
Or drag it out for ages in court, by asking annoying questions that no one seems to want to answer. Then you may catch a break and get a dismissal on failure to disclose, or want of prosecution. Chances are you will just get shafted. So just smile and pay. Dont try anything difficult just pay the tax and do the no license thing.
You must admit they do wear nicer uniforms than the other tax collectors.
:innocent:

And accept the consequences of your actions.....

[thehollowmen]

Sorry to hear that.
But then again you did risk it.

[_Gina_]

Shit mate, oh well, when you get the license back, you will have no demerits
Only if the 80 points will expire during the loss of licence. Losing your licence does not wipe your demerit points.....

Gg

[sAsLEX]

Losing your licence does not wipe your demerit points.....

So you gather 100 points in 3 months, get your punishment for that, do three months loss of license, get license back and whammo still have the 100 points so back to court and loss of license again for three months?

You must loose them once you have been charged and punished for it else it would be a case of double Jeopardy wouldn't it?

[Drunken Monkey]

I was under the impression that demerit points were added with effect from the date of offence, not from the date you paid the tax. They might physically get added to the "file" when you pay it, but the actual date of offence determines when the "100 points within 2 years" applies. So that means you should be screwed. Assuming no one makes an administrative error.

This is correct. It is re-iterated in the contents of the 50 demerit points reminder letter as referred to in this document:
http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/roadcode/driver-responsibility/stepping-over-the-line1.html

Trying to find a copy of the letter, have seen one before (*cough*) and it describes this process exactly as above.


Only if the 80 points will expire during the loss of licence. Losing your licence does not wipe your demerit points.....

This is incorrect. When your license is reinstated, you will have 0 demerit points against it, regardless of the number of points you had at time of last offence. If it didn't work this way, you'll likely have your license returned with more than 100 points, which doesn't work, does it? :weird:

[justsomeguy]

Hi Mate,

So you fought the law and the law won.... oh well life goes on huh.

Next time be more careful.

Good luck with whatever happens. :niceone:

[marty]

this is how demerits are recorded. stretching it makes no difference. longest you can stretch it is 28 + 28 + 5.


(4)Demerit points recorded under subsection (1) have effect on and from the date of the commission of the offence for which the points are recorded.





[(5)For the purposes of subsections (1) and (4), if an infringement fee is paid to the enforcement authority at the address for payment specified in the infringement notice before or within 28 days after service of a reminder notice for that offence or within 5 days after the expiry of that 28-day period, the following provisions apply to an infringement offence:





(a)the date on which the infringement notice was issued is to be treated as the date on which the offence was committed; and





(b)a summary conviction for the offence is to be treated as having been entered against the offender on the date of the payment of the infringement fee.]

[texmo]

Your right madboy, but with my luck I knew I would have crashed dovers bike had I been on my bike diffrent story.
I have decided just to pay up and get it over with,

[Deviant Esq]

Hope the blat on the Gixxer was worth it, doesn't look like there's any way you can get out of this one to me. I think if you tried it probably wouldn't work, and you could actually make it worse for yourself.

Just be glad you weren't caught speeding as well, sounds as though you were having a blast until you decided to slow down to let Mr. Plod catch up to you! :brick:

Have some bling as compensation. :niceone:

[froggyfrenchman]

Thats pretty bad to hear mate, but as said earlier in the thread... You would be suprised how many of us have been in your position. The straw that broke my licence's back was riding a big bike on a restricted.

Its only three months (i know it sounds forever!) Just be real careful not to be busted on the road during this time

[texmo]

well I just listed my scooter on trademe for $1500 bargin!!! just ask the people who got passed by it today it aint slow.
still like you guys say its only 3month I can live with that.

[myvice]

Bugger, its only 3 months and its cold and wet...
Least it’s not summer you have to suffer over!

[_Gina_]

This is incorrect. When your license is reinstated, you will have 0 demerit points against it, regardless of the number of points you had at time of last offence. If it didn't work this way, you'll likely have your license returned with more than 100 points, which doesn't work, does it? :weird:
Oops, my Bad.

Was what I had been told but having just checked the LTNZ site I find that I was wrong.....happens, just not often.:second:

[madboy]

Your right madboy, but with my luck I knew I would have crashed dovers bike had I been on my bike diffrent story.I know what you mean - it's a big call to do risky stuff on someone else's baby!!