The Gladstone Cliff-Hanger, Wairarapa, 11th / 12th March 2006

[limbimtimwim]

http://www.cdd.co.nz/hillclimb.htm

Was thinking 'nah' a week ago.

Thinking 'fuck yeah' right now.

So who is with me?

If the weather is good tomorrow, maybe a few practise runs..

Masterton forcast: http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,0a15a31,00.html

[LB]

Some more info to save you going into the website.

The Wairarapa boys are holding the hillclimb up the “Water Tower Hill” in the Wairarapa on the 11th/12th March.

The hillclimb is held on the Te Wharau Rd (the Kourarau hydro dam is part-way up this road). This 6.8km road climbs approx. 1000ft and has 27 corners (give or take a slight bend or two). The road surface is good with only a few bumps and ruts to challenge man (or woman) and machine. For half the distance the road clings to the side of the hill (offering good views over the Wairarapa valley). The remainder of the course cuts through the surrounding farmland in a series of fast sweeping curves.
The hillclimb is to be held on the 11th and 12th March 2006.
Fun/practice day on Saturday.....
Saturday is a fun/practice day. The aim is to encourage people to have a go, so go on...have a go. Entry fee is $30.00 for this day. You can run as many bikes as you like for this fee. See the entry form for more details.
The "King of the Cliffhanger" competition will be run on Sunday
Fastest rider up the road wins the prize.
Prize money will be paid to the two Cliffhanger classes, namely:-
Junior... up to 600cc
Senior... 601cc to open
Support classes are for any motorcycle or sidecar. So bring along your road bikes, Classics/Post classic machines and have some fun.
Rider clothing is to be either one piece leathers, leather or kevlar jackets with leather, nylon motocross or heavy worsted trousers. Boots are to be leather or leather substitute at least 25cm high or plastic motocross boots (refer to MNZ rule section 8). Helmets can be open or full face but must conform to MNZ rule 8-2. Back protectors are recommended.
As riders must remain at the finishing area until all runs are completed, it won't be possible to enter more than one class per run.
Riders will be given two familiarisation runs up the hill as a group, then two individually timed runs. The fastest 15 or 20 will go into the final run to determine the placing per class.
See the entry form for further conditions and information.
Prize giving will be held at the venue.
The nearby Gladstone Inn has camping sites available (ph (06) 372 7866).
Parking will be available in a paddock right next to the start line. We hope to be able to take spectators up the road prior to the start time of 9:30am. Spectators won't be able to get back to the start until the lunch break (12 noon to 12:25pm). The terrain beside the road is very steep in places, but people have walked a fair way up in the past. If spectators do decide to move during the event you must keep well clear of the road.
There are two places that would make good picnic spots.
The first is lake beside the dam, there's huge open spaces and trout in the lake. The view of the road is o.k, you'd see a couple of corners and can watch the bikes negotiate the ruts in the road just past the bridge.
The second spot is in a paddock towards the top, next to some cattle yards, where I think you can see a few corners. Again there is plenty of room to spread out.
Food and drink will be available at the start area (porta-loos as well).

Further details are at:

http://www.cdd.co.nz/hillclimb.htm

[VasalineWarrior]

Damn! Being a slacker student bum over the holidays dictates that I have to work that weekend :slap:

[Shadows]

Thinking I might go along to watch. I don't much like the looks of those post and batten barbed wire fences.

[sAsLEX]

Thinking I might go along to watch. I don't much like the looks of those post and batten barbed wire fences.

take a camera!:headbang:

[GSVR]

This thread is remarkably quiet less than a week out.

[Sparky Bills]

GOD DAMN IT TO HELL!!!!!!!!!:mad:

[Mooch]

This thread is remarkably quiet less than a week out.

This is one event that makes me really miss NZ M/Cing (And that bloody Jim2 sending me NZ bike cam videos!). That hill climb is one of my most favorite rides in NZ. Will miss it this year, won't be back in NZ in time.

Seems to be a number of "talkers" on Kiwibiker that say how hard / fast they are , perfect opportunity here. Closed road, no speed limit as such, just own ability. Less than 4 1/2 hours ride for 1/2 the north island riders. Also an opportunity for those GSXR1000 riders to show us how superior they are to all the other bikes.

Bullshit aside , The new format looks good , those that just want to have a go can do so on Saturday ,and those that do a bit or lot of racing can go hard out on the Sunday.
Give it a go … You’ll love it.

[skelstar]

Mooch - I cant agree with you more. Everyone givin each other the 'learn'...'my GSXR is better than your Honda'...blah blah :)

Green coming your way.

[limbimtimwim]

I did about 5 runs on Sunday. I wimp out.

I'd do it if I had an expendible bike.

Can I borrow your Hyobag? For free? Don't expect it back undamaged..

[limbimtimwim]

GOD DAMN IT TO HELL!!!!!!!!!Eh??

What's wrong?

[skelstar]

I think he's rueing the fact that he doesnt have a licence.
And no you cant borrow the legend. You dont like them anyway!!!

[Velox]

GOD DAMN IT TO HELL!!!!!!!!!:mad:
Hmmmm - just a thought.... Do you think if they're officially closing off the road it's temporarily not considred to be a 'public road'? The Sprints seem to confirm that. That would mean you wouldn't need a drivers licence (even with cops there) apart from getting there and back. But that's easier to work out.

[GSVR]

Have to have a civil license its even stated in the entry form.

[Velox]

Have to have a civil license its even stated in the entry form.
SB - civil? Ok maybe not then.

Sorry mate - worth a try though.

[MD]

This thread is remarkably quiet less than a week out.
For good reason. That piece of road is dangerous. Lots of people ride it at a reasonably fast pace but most I know also know it's one of those roads that demand respect. So close it off and say GO FULL TIT !! yeah right. Narrow,blind, tight turns with 100m to 200m sheer drops -that's if you survive getting through the barbed wire. For me it's a definite 8/10th ride never 9/10th so not sure if I want the added temptation of 'closed road' = false security it's safer.
Still, my minds not made up until the sun rises on Saturday

[VasalineWarrior]

Mooch - I cant agree with you more. Everyone givin each other the 'learn'...'my GSXR is better than your Honda'...blah blah :)

Green coming your way.


Any time skel ;) glad you finally realised the truth!

[cowpoos]

Mooch - I cant agree with you more. Everyone givin each other the 'learn'...'my GSXR is better than your Honda'...blah blah :)

Green coming your way.

you know how to milk cows and drive a tractor lil fella?

[limbimtimwim]

you know how to milk cows and drive a tractor lil fella?You are going to race him up there milking a cow while driving a tractor? I don't understand.

[skelstar]

Yeah, Im a bit confused too. :weird:

[limbimtimwim]

I found this video of Cowpoos explaining everything.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2949508997989707181

[cowpoos]

Yeah, Im a bit confused too. :weird:

well if ya milk me Moo's I can enter and take on all the nana's on honda's...

[skelstar]

Ahhh...gotcha. :niceone:

[sugilite]

YEEEEE HAAAAAA!
Count me in!!!!!
I'll be bringing the 9!
With regards to some of the other posts, anyone who thinks their suzuyamaonda is faster, let me know, the truth will be out there, so lets find it!:woohoo:

[Mooch]

More to the point , Can anyone beat the time of the guy on the 1999 R6 !
He's wins it most years, awesome road riding skills. (Is this anyone on KB)

Still seems to be a large echo of silence from the GSXR1000 owners.

[limbimtimwim]

YEEEEE HAAAAAA! Count me in!!!!! ... suzuyamaonda is faster, let me know, the truth will be out there, so lets find it!:woohoo:Do you know the road?

I wimped out for a reason. I got scared I'd do one of the following:
Brake too late for the sharp right hander, and fly down the cliff
Forget to run wide for the first dip in the road and fly up the road
Forget to avoid the second dip and just plain crash

[Mooch]

Compare it to the taka's , it's a nice bit of road , did you notice the finish line well before the top , (Thin white paint across the road)
I think the only thing that really needs the big look is the gravel on the corners where a couple of side roads join, and correct braking for corner 9 so you don't loose to much time. Also focus on the road and re-learn the corners to use both lanes. Can't say I've really noticed the drop offs, barbed wire fences etc. Going down the other side is however a differrent story.

[sugilite]

More to the point , Can anyone beat the time of the guy on the 1999 R6 !
He's wins it most years, awesome road riding skills. (Is this anyone on KB)

Still seems to be a large echo of silence from the GSXR1000 owners.

His name is Warren Turner, he has raced at the Isle of man and won trophies I believe, he road raced full time through the ninties and is seriously quick!

[sugilite]

Do you know the road?

I wimped out for a reason. I got scared I'd do one of the following:
Brake too late for the sharp right hander, and fly down the cliff
Forget to run wide for the first dip in the road and fly up the road
Forget to avoid the second dip and just plain crash

I do not know this road, however I have won a hill climb they used to have on Admirals road close by. (In 92 on a FZR1000, never got out of second gear!)
I love this sort of stuff and will be aiming for at least a top 5 finish in the open class. (hey, ya gotta have goals right?)

I think we have different approaches to racing here....
For a start, I do not do a run whilst looking for preffered places to crash!
I just try to ride not to crash in the first place....
I reckon if your looking for places to crash, you will have a higher chance of finding one through not concentrating on where you are going!

I use the sighting runs as just that, a sighting run. I use it to learn the hazards, I do these runs quite slow and pay close attention to such things as cambers, road surface changes, gravel, animal piss, dips, and the ever popular tightening radius turn! Hazards such as the ones you list are pretty easy ones to reference and remember.
Don't get me wrong, I have a real respect for roads like this, circuit type speeds are to be avoided!

Personally, I'll just be looking to have fun, hopefully set a good time, then look for the sweet wheelie spots :woohoo:

[sugilite]

WOAH!!!! This thread too bloody quiet for my liking! :oi-grr:
This event is on THIS WEEKEND guys!:mega:

It is so perfect for new comers to come and have a go. Saturday is a low key practice day. You don't have to set the record, ride at the level you are comfortable with and you will be sweet!

I had a look at the photos on the official website, and I do remember that road, it is fucking awesome!!!!!:ride:
The weather is supposed to be great tomorrow, no excuses, rock up and have a go....you will need a crow bar to get that grin of ya face!!!!:D

So come on, how often do you get sick of constantly looking at your speedo?
Remember, it is a public road, and these guys :Police: are not invited to the PARTY!!!!

COME ON KB TEAM!!!! :woohoo:

[cowboyz]

bloody hell. I been trying to get to an event for ages. couldnt do the track day cause I had to work. I have this weekend off and all would be great but my sister is getting married so thats out. Sis is gettting married in Wellington so might come home that way on Sunday for a look around lunch to see whats up. Wont have a bike on me though.

[slopster]

Is anyone heading over from palmy tomorrow I'd be keen for a ride. Don't know if I'd compete see what the weathers like first.

[GSVR]

Is anyone heading over from palmy tomorrow I'd be keen for a ride. Don't know if I'd compete see what the weathers like first.

Well I'm heading from Palmy (Suicide Capital of the World) but have just put my bike in the back of the van so will not be riding to the event. No doubt you'll pass me on the way there.

[VasalineWarrior]

Im too much of a wimp to race it, but il be over there on sunday to watch. NC's bday is sat night, so a nice slow pace over the hill on sunday will be the order of the day :banana:

[sugilite]

Coolies, see ya there!
I'll be on the green ZX9R, number 73.
see ya sunday:banana:

[jimbo600]

I'm going. Did it a couple of years ago. Its a right old hoot.

[limbimtimwim]

I know nobody will read this before tomorrow but:

Went down the road today.

The practise day has left wonderful sets of dark lines running around the corners, and out of the exits. At least one person is on the ball!

[cowpoos]

deano txt me blow arsing how he kicked arse....was the man....and had yummy fritters for breakfast....and he came 3rd over all [honda cbr1000rr repsol] and won his class [roadbike I presume...although it could have been the handicapped class for honda riders]....jimbo600 [gsx-r600k4]rode it blind and with one arm [the man told me himself...not a lie] and was a close second in class behind deano [apparently he was behind deano coz he's a silly twat and was worried he'ld get lost if he passed him] and fourth over all....
Suglite [go the kawasakis....zx9r]came second over all and warren turner [yamahahahaha arse sex] came first breaking his own record in the process...

so for the manifactures 1st:yamaha
2nd:kawasaki
3rd:honda
4th:suzuki

how farkin ghey is that... next year the wairarapa hardcore will be in attendence...so we will be definatly looking for at a out right win for suzuki..
and if I do manage to lose I will personally bum fuck every one that dares beat me without lube!!!!

[Uncle B]

Mooch - I cant agree with you more. Everyone givin each other the 'learn'...'my GSXR is better than your Honda'...blah blah :)
I also agree Skels.
An event like this is a time to put your money where your mouth is and backup that bar room talk.
I missed this years run but would like to have a crack at the next one.
If I have done some spouting this will be the perfect opportunity to cough up or shut up.

Me... I believe the bike is only half the story. The other half is how much talent and ability you have.........and balls.

Congrats to those who entered and gave it a go.

[GSVR]

One thing I do know is the organisers of this lost out bigtime financially. The Saturday was absolutely brillient weatherwise and only around 15 bikes entered. Sunday there where around the same and the results declared after only two timed runs because of the rain on the final part of the road.

Slopster another KBer from Palmerston North and his mate from Kapiti both on ZXR750's came 1st and 2nd in the pre 93? class.

There was a guy on an Old RD250 and an old XS650 you could turn up with anything.

Only one proper classic bike raced so he was going to come 1st in his class even if he pushed it up the hill.

Very dissapointed with the turn out. Maybe eveyone heard Deano and Jimbo would be there and didn't want to be shown up. Well thats my excuse for not riding Sunday anyway.

[cowboyz]

I really wanted to show up but had to do the best man thing at my sisters wedding. Damn inconsiderate sisters.. getting married on a weekend when I want to go for a ride.. Everyone should get married on Tuesdays.

[Sparky Bills]

So did anyone get any pics?

[skelstar]

Well done to those who got out/up there. Was a pity we didnt see any action when we turned up yesterday.

[Deano]

It was a shame that we only got 2 dry runs yesterday, but shit they were worth the $$. I got to the end of the first run after scaring myself stupid in a few places - but that's where the fun is I reckon.

Not everyone is into competing in these events, but it would be a bloody shame to lose them, which is a possibility if there is a lack of interest and support.

Come on guys - as Uncle B has said - there is enough bullshit posted in here to have expected a few more entries. The organisers even gave out a medal to a lot of the competitors, not just the top 3 in each class.

Some have mentioned how dangerous the road looked, yet I bet at least a few of you ride pretty hard on the road every weekend.

Anyway - how about some more support next year ? The organisers were also talking about a possible Featherston Sprint in the next month or so.

p.s. cheers for the 'accurate' report Poos - revenge is sweet ain't it ?

[jimbo600]

Damn right. Everyone (including me) moans about excessive police presence on the road, and when we are gifted an opportunity to race up a great bit of tarmac there's hardly any support. Use it or loose it folks. It's a great day all up. Big ups to Deano who had the hammer down, only a few seconds off Tony Sampsons pace. As we speak my bike is in WMC for a PX on a 1000.

Shame about the rain as I was just warming up to do a 2:11 run. Honest

[Stroker Girl]

Did any see a tubby obnoxious bastard on a black R6 (or poss a Mille thou) racing (from the Naki)? He won the 600 class last year but not sure if he was racing this year or not?

[skelstar]

...As we speak my bike is in WMC for a PX on a 1000...
Pardon my ignorance but what does this mean (deposit)? Ta.
edit - ah, maybe 'payment'.

[Paul in NZ]

Interesting...

I'd run the ancient Moto Guzzi up there for a laugh and just to make up the numbers if that would help? It would not go very fast but it would maka lotsa da noise. I'd not be going hard as hard because it's a nice old thing and I really don't want to bend it if I can help it.

Looking at the website I sort of got the impression it was all pretty professional and for fast bikes only and was a bit put off even thinking about it. Reading it again after reading this, I suppose being able to ride up in heavy worsted trousers I should have thought better.

I reckon a chat with the Classic Club would have seen a few other old nails heading up there.

Cheers

[Uncle B]

Shame about the rain as I was just warming up to do a 2:11 run. Honest
:Oi: Bar room talk :whistle:

[cowpoos]

Pardon my ignorance but what does this mean (deposit)? Ta.
edit - ah, maybe 'payment'.

px= part exchange I would imagine?

[jimbo600]

:Oi: Bar room talk :whistle:

After more than a few beers.

[Deano]

so for the manifactures 1st:yamaha
2nd:kawasaki
3rd:honda
4th:suzuki

how farkin ghey is that... next year the wairarapa hardcore will be in attendence...so we will be definatly looking for at a out right win for suzuki..
and if I do manage to lose I will personally bum fuck every one that dares beat me without lube!!!!

It was actually - 1st - Warren Turner R6 (C2)
2nd - Tony Sampson K5 Gsxr1000 (C1)
3rd - Suglite - ZX9R (C2)
4th - some burglar on a Honda 1000 (P04 or 6?)

And you can save the bum fucking for the cows mate !!


Did any see a tubby obnoxious bastard on a black R6 (or poss a Mille thou) racing (from the Naki)? He won the 600 class last year but not sure if he was racing this year or not?

I remember him from last year but pretty sure he wasn't there on Sunday.


Interesting...

I'd run the ancient Moto Guzzi up there for a laugh and just to make up the numbers if that would help? I reckon a chat with the Classic Club would have seen a few other old nails heading up there.

Cheers

Stephan Hodson (sp) won his class on an old (excuse ignorance) Triumph - shit it was in beautiful condition. Probably the best detailed bike there. It was mint.

There are at least five support classes, based on bike year. It would be great to see more bikes entering, even for the fun of blatting up a closed road. It is only as dangerous as people want it to get.

They also had a wheelie and burnout session but only got one taker on a ZX9R I think - nice burnout though.

[Paul in NZ]

Stephan Hodson (sp) won his class on an old (excuse ignorance) Triumph - shit it was in beautiful condition. Probably the best detailed bike there. It was mint.

There are at least five support classes, based on bike year. It would be great to see more bikes entering, even for the fun of blatting up a closed road. It is only as dangerous as people want it to get.
.

Seriously? Would you guys actually like old wrecks in the supporting classes?

I just kinda thought we were oil spewing rolling chicanes and discouraged? The TR6C should be running by then and I reckon it would be a bloody hoot up there.

Cheers

[Deano]

Seriously? Would you guys actually like old wrecks in the supporting classes?

I just kinda thought we were oil spewing rolling chicanes and discouraged? The TR6C should be running by then and I reckon it would be a bloody hoot up there.

Cheers

Umm, yeah I guess oil on the road wouldn't be very nice. :oi-grr:

We saw you and Vicki ride past the Gladstone Pub just before prizegiving.

The organisers were really keen to see more entries, and if they lost money this year who knows what might happen ?

[Paul in NZ]

Umm, yeah I guess oil on the road wouldn't be very nice. :oi-grr:

We saw you and Vicki ride past the Gladstone Pub just before prizegiving.

The organisers were really keen to see more entries, and if they lost money this year who knows what might happen ?

Yeah, we were on our way to watch the action... Oops...

[Paul in NZ]

Umm, yeah I guess oil on the road wouldn't be very nice. :oi-grr:

Yup.. Trouble with older machines, you just cannot be 100% sure that won't happen. Oh well, I guess the old and new are not such a good mix after all..

I humbly withdraw...

Cheers

[Motoracer]

ARRGGGHHHHH!!!! :cry: :cry: :cry:

This was the one race that I really wanted to do this year!

FFS, another year gone to waste cause I couldn't get my shit sorted in time... :no: