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Marmoot
5th March 2006, 09:26
Anyone got any clue or experience?

I spent a long time looking at those plastic packagings and could not see any wire that I can splice onto.

I find it hard to see what speed I'm doing on the motorway......

sAsLEX
5th March 2006, 09:27
so wiring wise or position wise?

nadroj
5th March 2006, 10:32
I've got mine mounted on steering head arrangement & yes it does block the clocks a little. Have also seen V1 mounted right in nose of screen on fabricated panel back to between clocks.
Wiring - I got an old telephone cord, cut off 1 end & put on quick connect plug from Dick Smiths (Audio). Mounted the socket by the key & wired right back to battery terminals with an inline fuse on the +. Pm me if more details required.

marty
5th March 2006, 11:28
i'm making up a composite arm to pick up on the bolt in the centre front of the panel (just in front of the centre of the forks). it'll cantilever up and hold the bell just under the screen (i've got a dble bble one), so i can still see dash - including the oil pressure light . i'll probably make up a short curly cord and plug into a cig lighter fitting that i'll mount into the fairing - so i can charge my phone too if i need to - you know how they're always flat just when you need them the most!

Morepower
5th March 2006, 21:37
Not sure how this would go on a Bus , but this is the setup I made for the TL , Its bolted on with the Mirror mount bolts. Not at all obtrusive and best of all obscures no guages. Oh and the cost probably a couple of $$ at worst, depending on what you have laying around.
The detctor is held on by velcro and being behind the screen is OK in light rain as long as you are moving. A plastic bag and rubber band would be a $0 dollar fix if you need to have it in the rain. The plug in the fairing came from supercheap and is wired via a fuse back to the battery terminals under the seat.

Marmoot
5th March 2006, 22:12
so wiring wise or position wise?

Wiring-wise.

For position, I like lying down on my back on the bed.....

Anyway, wiring-wise, some Busa internet pages suggest to wire to a spare socket inside the front fairing.

How easy it is to unmount the front fairing?

boomer
5th March 2006, 22:17
Find the fuse box, get a multimetre and check for switched power. Then splice before teh fuse box and bobs ya unkle:done:

marty
6th March 2006, 07:13
the TL set up is clean, but the Busa doesn't have the same room or exposed framing. hey marmoot - what sort of screen does yours have?

sAsLEX
6th March 2006, 08:11
Its bolted on with the Mirror mount bolts.

I like your style, thats how I had mine on my CBR250, welded it up though no riveted, and then bolted it on. Orig had it on the left where it would obscure the speedo partially but remade two of them and put it on the right and it was sweet

marty
6th March 2006, 08:23
would be nice to be these guys.....no radar detectors needed here >>

http://www.rpm.eu.com/5in5.html

magicfairy
6th March 2006, 08:49
PM BusaJim (my partner) He has a Valentine One on his Busa with a HARD unit. (Helmet Assisted Rader Detection ?)
Uses the rubber suction cups to fix the V1 it underside of windscreen. And some sort of velcro arrangement to hold HARD unit next to it.
Swears by it. No speeding tickets since it went in.

Marmoot
6th March 2006, 11:02
hey marmoot - what sort of screen does yours have?

Standard for at least another full year. The missus would hit my bruised waist if I dare spend another dollar bill......

Lou Girardin
6th March 2006, 12:04
Uses the rubber suction cups to fix the V1 it underside of windscreen. And some sort of velcro arrangement to hold HARD unit next to it.


I hope it's insured, because they don't bounce.

bugjuice
6th March 2006, 12:08
how important is it that the radar can see forwards and backwards. I keep hearing contradicting things, or does it depend on model?

and what about external sensors mounted elsewhere/tucked? like hide the unit and have sensors front and back?

magicfairy
6th March 2006, 15:45
I hope it's insured, because they don't bounce.
It survived a crash on the Tukas - whereas the Busa (previous one) it was connected to was written off. :weep: Apparently it did bounce that time. :niceone:

sAsLEX
6th March 2006, 18:45
how important is it that the radar can see forwards and backwards. I keep hearing contradicting things, or does it depend on model?

and what about external sensors mounted elsewhere/tucked? like hide the unit and have sensors front and back?

most people refer to the valentine in its ability to see backwards through the rear glass of a car, got to see through you on a bike so I doubt they would be that effective

Morepower
6th March 2006, 18:55
most people refer to the valentine in its ability to see backwards through the rear glass of a car, got to see through you on a bike so I doubt they would be that effective
As long as you are not made of metal I would imagine rear detection would still be passable.
However on a Bike the audio alert is most important and i would not want to be looking down to try and figure out what little arrow is flashing for too long.
Basicaly if you get an alert just slow down until you are sure there is no longer any threat.

Dave

Lou Girardin
8th March 2006, 07:35
how important is it that the radar can see forwards and backwards. I keep hearing contradicting things, or does it depend on model?

and what about external sensors mounted elsewhere/tucked? like hide the unit and have sensors front and back?

When I get a warning on the V1, the first thing I do is back off or brake and check the direction of the warning. If it's behind, it's much less threat than in front. If you have a contact that continues for some time it could be a leaking detector in a car behind you. So with most detectors you sit there uncertain as to whether it's a cop or not.
The rear sensor works fine, even when I have my aluminised fabric thermal liner on.

Morepower
8th March 2006, 16:48
When I get a warning on the V1, the first thing I do is back off or brake and check the direction of the warning. If it's behind, it's much less threat than in front. If you have a contact that continues for some time it could be a leaking detector in a car behind you. So with most detectors you sit there uncertain as to whether it's a cop or not.
The rear sensor works fine, even when I have my aluminised fabric thermal liner on.

My Bel980 (a good detector) would false due to other detectors (particularly Unidens) which was always an anoying problem , the new Escort X50 is thankfully very quiet and does not react as far as I can tell to other detectors. It also gives a couple of precious seconds earlier warning than the Bel which in its day I found slightly better than the Valentine of the same era.
If the X50 goes off you can pretty much bet on a speed camera or patrol car being around.

Marmoot
10th March 2006, 17:17
Finally, I've done it!

The setup is quite nice as well (if you don't mind me congratulating myself).

I started by getting a cut-off phone cable (with the jack) compatible to my Escort, and soldering the middle 2 wires to a sizeable (read: thicker) cables with red and black colour, wrapping them with heat-shrink cable wraps too.

Then I undo the middle lower cover (the one underneath the nose) by simply undoing 6 black clips (the one that you push the center to undo). Once the black cover is undone, it is a matter or routing the newly-made cable from the front-left side of the tank, underneath (and behind the clip) the left black cover, through some wire looms inside the side fairing and to the nose cone. I had to route them this way to avoid them getting close to the steering damper (and risking them tangling).

Then I picked up two aligator-crimps (Quick TAB joiners) I got from Dicksmith ($6 for a pack of 10. I still have 8) and splice the two cables to the low-beam headlight right behind the plug (black for Ground, white for +12).

After reinstalling the plug to the headlight and redoing the black lower cover, the install is all done.

The end-product is only a 20cm cable poking out in front of the fuel tank. And, when not in use, the cable can be fed into underneath the front-right part of fuel tank so it would not flap around.

Now I'm off to get some decent mounting. I think I'll just take another one of the black steering stem mount from radardirect like I had on the SP1 (It disappeared in the crash :( )

It only took me 1 hour for the whole lot.

Saturday next week is going to be more enjoyable :Punk:

nadroj
10th March 2006, 21:12
Got access to a lathe / mill or a mate who has? Better than shelling 2 hundy.

Marmoot
10th March 2006, 22:22
Got access to a lathe / mill or a mate who has? Better than shelling 2 hundy.

I'm a lazy sucker who likes easiness.......Internet shopping is just too damn easy these days :(

Krusti
10th March 2006, 22:33
All I did on my Z1000 was cut a piece of flat steel, countersink 4 holes to match those on top of front brake resevoir, undo 4 screws, screw plate onto top of said resevoir, stick on some velcro....Bobs ya uncle... works a treat.

As far as rear detection...my X50 picks up signals from behind equally as well as those ahead...never been a problem.

Pixie
12th March 2006, 09:44
All I did on my Z1000 was cut a piece of flat steel, countersink 4 holes to match those on top of front brake resevoir, undo 4 screws, screw plate onto top of said resevoir, stick on some velcro....Bobs ya uncle... works a treat.

As far as rear detection...my X50 picks up signals from behind equally as well as those ahead...never been a problem.
Ooooh....trusting several hundred bucks of detector to velcro.
I've laughed at the consequences

Krusti
12th March 2006, 09:51
Ooooh....trusting several hundred bucks of detector to velcro.
I've laughed at the consequences

Never had a problem. Put a hair tie around it if I worry. But in 18 months hasn't moved once!

Any way cost me about $5 instead of $200 plus.

sAsLEX
12th March 2006, 11:19
Ooooh....trusting several hundred bucks of detector to velcro.
I've laughed at the consequences

Mine was physically hard to pull of the velcro I put it on with, and its out of the wind blast so...

Krusti
12th March 2006, 13:56
Mine has happily sat in the wind blast at 230, controlled private road of course, never looked like moving. Rain, well that's another matter!

Marmoot
12th March 2006, 21:41
My stand used Velcro as well, and it lasted for 1 year without any trouble except in crash (which the detector then got catapulted into a soft grass area, and thus fared quite well).