Argggh, what else will go wrong

[Postie]

Right, so last week I managed to fix the NC23's firing problem, which turned out to be a pulse generator, nice and easy just a plug in part and roberts your fathers brother, but for some reason the indicators stopped working, looked at the flasher unit and it looks like its seen better days. Ah ha me thinks, needs a new flasher unit, can't find a proper one anywhere on Saturday and all the wreckers are both closed and useless. So i hooked up a new after market one which had the same voltage and blah blah blah, still didn't work, so i'm guessing i broke a wire somewhere along the lines. so anyway i thought maybe my flasher unit is broken and an aftermarket one just won't cut it, so i got to the wreckers today, tried a Honda (actually Mitsubishi) flasher and again, no lights, which confirms my theory that a wire has broken somewhere in the loom.
Just to top of my fruitfull visit to the wreckers, an indicator lens was loose as i have been fucking around with it too much...... and that went walkies on the way back to work. So now my indicators don't work, the wire on the front left indicator bulb unit has come off and needs replacing or i could attempt to solder it back on and the right front has lens has taken a holiday. Despite all this crap, i still love my Honda CBR 'el Crapo, its better then not having a bike at all.

any suggestions in regards to the wiring on the CBR or way to retify the problem (and don't say buy a Suzuki, Zukki, Gixxer, whatever its been said to death so try a new line, plus Suzukis never break down cos the riders crash them before they get chance to)
would be much appreciated.

[Fishy]

Hey Postie, I saw today that Victorian Motorcycle Wreckers are currently dismantling one, same model as yours if you need any more bits?...

Email Keith there at vicwreck@iinet.net.au

They are real good with service and pretty good on price too!.

[cowpoos]

could be worse....oh no...wait....it is a honda :spudwow:

[bugjuice]

check the switches too. could just be a broken wire in the switch, or just manky.. tis a manky ol' bike after all..

i have a semi-decent donor bike you're welcome to strip down

oh yeah, and while you're going around wrecker yards, I need a brake switch *ahem*

[Postie]

check the switches too. could just be a broken wire in the switch, or just manky.. tis a manky ol' bike after all..


at least its not manky orange

[bugjuice]

watch it buster..

[HDTboy]

i have a semi-decent donor bike you're welcome to strip down

oh yeah, and while you're going around wrecker yards, I need a brake switch *ahem*
cunt .

[bugjuice]

can .

[Grahameeboy]

at least its not manky orange

No Burnt Orange...don't ua know.....

[Ixion]

Indicators are easy. Same as cars. All else failing get a cheapo indicator flasher unit from Repco. Check that you have 4 indicator bulbs that work . Ensure that your wires are all connected . Make sure the indicator warning bulb in the instrument cluster is OK (this is importnat). Connect all up and it should be go.

[Ixion]

Uh, if by "not working" you mean no lights at all on either side, odds are it's a fuse. You HAVE checked the fuses , right ?

[Postie]

I Make sure the indicator warning bulb in the instrument cluster is OK (this is importnat).
are you saying that the indicator buld in the instrument cluster could be blown and that would stop the indicators working, like its part of the circuit. Cos i have n't checked that....... twould be a tad embarrasing if that be the case.

[Ixion]

Yes, but it depends on hat you mean by "not working". If both sides are the same, lights for the appropriate side come on, but don't flash, or flash too fast or slow, it is probaly a blown warning light bulb (or the wiring to it)

If one side works normally and the other doesn't work at all (no lights, or just the warning light) , it's either the switch or a wire.

If one side works normally but the other somes on and doesn't flash properly it's either a blown bulb, or wrong wattage bulb.

If NO lights work at all (and you can't hear the flasher unit going tick tick tick) , it's either a fuse (90% probability) or , just MAYBE , a defective flasher unit, or defective switch or defective wire to switch. But 9 out 10 is fuse.

[Postie]

Uh, if by "not working" you mean no lights at all on either side, odds are it's a fuse. You HAVE checked the fuses , right ?

yeah i definatly checked the fuses......
all i'm worried about is that the guy who had the bike before me whouldn't have been in controll with anything more then a blender, he tried to do some wiring on the bike and every time i look at repairing something, i find more of the previous owners butcher attemps at electonic repairs.

[bugjuice]

yeah, but the key thing here - is that they worked before you touched it..

[Postie]

yeah, but the key thing here - is that they worked before you touched it..

correction bug sperm, it worked before WE touched it......

[bugjuice]

we? pfft.. you're the one pullin it all out :bleh:
I just break shit, ay gav?

[HDTboy]

Only when you're not doing brake shit BJ. You're just entertaining then, well worth the trip up.

[bugjuice]

lol... no idea what you're on about bro..

[Ixion]

OK, here's the wiring diagram for a CBR400 .

If neither side works, problem has to be on the common side of the switch (unless it's wierd like a BMW).

Diagram shows three wires into relay unit. One (black/brown I think) looks like feed from the ignition (THROUGH A FUSE !.).

Use some sort of continuity tester (voltmeter if you can, or a bulb on a couple of wires). Check for current between that wire and earth (make sure it really is earth, not all metal bits on modern bikes are earthy) . If no current there (ignition switch on remember), it's either a fuse (!!) or wiring to the fuse unit (very unlikely)

Did I mention to check the fuse ?

If you've got current there, the other wire is green I think, looks like common earth. Check for current across the (now known good) black/brown, and the green. If that's OK your earth is prolly OK. So must be the gray wire to the switch unit. Or the switch. Or the fuse. Or 4 blown bulbs.

Check and inspect each of them (to test the wire from flasher unit to switch, just connect another known good bit of wire from unit to switch - or, better from unit to one side of switch output). Has to be one of those . If they are all good, it's the flasher unit, but unlikely if you've tried two replacements.

M'self, I'd check the fuse again.

[HDTboy]

Well there was that time you were struggling with the brake pads on your bike, and I'd well and truly finished the ones on my side.

There is the tale about the brakes on the other ZX6

Then there's your first attempt at doing the pads on your car.

Then there was the struggle you had on Saturday afternoon with the brakes on the car, while I watched amused.

Let me know next time you're doing anything brake related, I'll make the trip up just for a lauf.



Postie: Like Ixion said, check the fuse. Use a test light to do it