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Madmax
10th March 2006, 08:20
Pope Brian Tamaki has made the news again:Pokey:
this guy just give me the shits
Str8 Jacket
10th March 2006, 08:25
What annoys me is that it appears that his congregation knew that they were paying for it, the guy on T.V last night said it was a "gift" from the church for their wedding anniversary.... It appears that me these people really are brainwashed, imo!
SimJen
10th March 2006, 08:39
brainwashed and hopeless cases.
kels
10th March 2006, 08:41
Yup can't stand the :tugger: He has these people totally brain washed and I feel very sorry for his wife...the clothes...the hair!!! HE IS SOOOOO GAY!!!
MisterD
10th March 2006, 08:45
Will someone please elaborate on what he's done/said this time?
kels
10th March 2006, 08:47
Will someone please elaborate on what he's done/said this time?
He's breathing!
Str8 Jacket
10th March 2006, 08:50
Courtesy of his congregation him and his wife were "gifted" a $40,000 plus luxury cruise (not sure what ship) as a wedding anniversary present.
MisterD
10th March 2006, 08:52
Courtesy of his congregation him and his wife were "gifted" a $40,000 plus luxury cruise (not sure what ship) as a wedding anniversary present.

Any of you guys got a time machine in their shed? We could chip in from KB and make the cruise on the Titanic....
Str8 Jacket
10th March 2006, 08:54
We could chip in from KB and make the cruise on the Titanic....

LMAO!! Just a 10% donation from your wages..... Makes you wonder just how many people are actually in his congregation, they must make a killing!
ManDownUnder
10th March 2006, 08:57
Courtesy of his congregation him and his wife were "gifted" a $40,000 plus luxury cruise (not sure what ship) as a wedding anniversary present.

I have no "evidence" one way or the other but...

If it smells like a pig, looks like a pig, sounds like a pig - it's probably a pig.

so... if it looks like the flock is being fleeced by Bishop Brian, sounds like the flock is being fleeced by Bishop Brian...

The masses love him. I have nothing to offer against the guy really - I've not seen anything outside what the press offers up (and lets face the facts - they can be a little biased toward the "dramatic")... but all the same...

$40 wedding anniversary from God's money? That's a lot of sponsored kids, or other good works...
emaN
10th March 2006, 08:57
So, we slag the media off 'cos we believe their reporting to be inaccurate/biased/untrue...

yet

we're wrapped around the media's little finger when it comes to reporting about good ol' Mr Tamaki...

hmmm
kels
10th March 2006, 08:58
Any of you guys got a time machine in their shed? We could chip in from KB and make the cruise on the Titanic....
You just earned some green bling :Punk:
Str8 Jacket
10th March 2006, 09:01
$40 wedding anniversary from God's money? That's a lot of sponsored kids, or other good works...

Thats exactly right! When the Tamakis where in Rotorua and not that well known they were just another family, since having moved to Auckland and starting Destiny Church up there they have suddenly become very well off. They get round this by telling their church goers that God is blessing them richly and that if everyone else devoted their lives to god in the same way they too could be blessed by God in the same way.... brainwashing brainwashing brainwashing!
MisterD
10th March 2006, 09:02
You just earned some green bling :Punk:

Why thankyou Kels, we aim to please :sunny:
Hitcher
10th March 2006, 09:07
And here's me thinking that the only personal benefits to be had from ministering god's words were supposed to be spiritual. Maybe I should reconsider my career choice.
MisterD
10th March 2006, 09:15
At the risk of diverting this to PD isn't there something in the bible about it being easier to pass a camel through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to go to heaven? Why are people so gullible that they allow, quite frankly, a modern-day snakeoil salesman to take their money?
Swoop
10th March 2006, 10:30
The Kiwibiker faith should grow stronger with each passing census.

HALLELUJAH BROTHERS AND SISTERS!!!:clap: :yeah:
Lou Girardin
10th March 2006, 10:41
It appears he had the second to top class of suite, a two level jobbie. The ship (Q E 2? 3? 4?) has 10 restaurants. God knows how many bars, casinos etc. But no chapel.
Bless him.
Does he know Satan has a particularly hot corner of hell for false prophets?
MSTRS
10th March 2006, 10:44
At the risk of diverting this to PD isn't there something in the bible about it being easier to pass a camel through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to go to heaven? Why are people so gullible that they allow, quite frankly, a modern-day snakeoil salesman to take their money?
To me it's the old story.....the biggest spenders on the likes of Lotto are the 'poor', hoping to change their fortunes without effort on their part. Charismatic 'leaders' get the best results from the (shall we say) disenfranchised.
Big Dave
10th March 2006, 10:53
Does he know Satan has a particularly hot corner of hell for false prophets?


Won't bother this guy - he'll already have spent them.
Skyryder
10th March 2006, 10:54
Their money. Their loss.

Skyryder
ManDownUnder
10th March 2006, 10:56
Their money. Their loss.

Skyryder

HIS money, their loss....
Hitcher
10th March 2006, 11:03
Or maybe his acolytes have just dreamed up an innovative strategy for getting PB out of the way for a while...
oldrider
10th March 2006, 11:05
Such is the price of "freedom".

Just be glad that they are not in parliament making laws for us to obey!

Be careful with your votes or Bishop Brian will have "your" notes! :confused:
Big Dave
10th March 2006, 11:07
Mine is A#!
Scorpygirl
10th March 2006, 11:07
Bishop Tamaki fits the Phil Collins Song called "Jesus he know me" down to the last note!!! :ar15:

I'll get you everything you wanted
I'll get you everything you need
Don't need to believe in the hereafter
Just believe in me

Cos Jesus he knows me
and he knows I'm right
I've been talking to Jesus all my life
oh yes he knows me
and he knows I'm right
and he's been telling me
everything is alright!
Fishy
10th March 2006, 11:08
Brian Tamaki is as crooked as they come!. I know he used to have "Dealings" with certain gang members who are now locked up for a very long time!.
miSTa
10th March 2006, 11:09
I believe the boat was the Queen Mary 2: http://finecruising.cruisefactory.net/cruiselines/cunard_line_limited/ships/queen_mary_2/photos.html

It would be quite nice if someone else was paying for it.
Mental Trousers
10th March 2006, 11:18
So, we slag the media off 'cos we believe their reporting to be inaccurate/biased/untrue...

yet

we're wrapped around the media's little finger when it comes to reporting about good ol' Mr Tamaki...

hmmm

Don't be logical.
Go and fix your bike so that we can have the pleasure of Tash's company again some time soon.
ManDownUnder
10th March 2006, 11:32
Mine is A#!

I have a few B# and E#... just greedy I guess...
ManDownUnder
10th March 2006, 11:34
Bishop Tamaki fits the Phil Collins Song called "Jesus he know me" down to the last note!!! :ar15:


Yeah - it's cute isn't it.... I reckon someone should do a pisstake of the situation though

(p/t)<== highlight here
Ixion
10th March 2006, 12:04
Can't say iu think much of the guy, but it's a free country. If his devotees want to make him a present of a pile of dosh, i guess that's their right. No-one's forcing them to. Adults making decisions of their own free will and all that. Freedom necessaily includes the freedom to do stupid things.
MSTRS
10th March 2006, 12:18
Can't say iu think much of the guy, but it's a free country. If his devotees want to make him a present of a pile of dosh, i guess that's their right. No-one's forcing them to. Adults making decisions of their own free will and all that. Freedom necessaily includes the freedom to do stupid things.
Interesting point, Ixion. Freedom to follow a cause etc is to be encouraged, but once that cause is being followed, freedom sadly goes missing.
emaN
10th March 2006, 12:19
Go and fix your bike so that we can have the pleasure of Tash's company again some time soon.

he he... working on it bro!
she's nearing completion; should be done by next Sat (18th)

i'll let tash know she's got a fan

:laugh:
kro
10th March 2006, 16:46
I am one of the annoying people who has no serious issue with people of faith, but I too find myself feeling uneasy when this guy is in the public eye.
The church itself bases its doctrine fresh out of the bible, which is the best basis for a recognised "Christian" church, but something about Tamaki makes me a bit jumpy, I could just be being silly, but its a very real feeling I get.

They are starting to come across as semi-cultish imo, paying a little too much homage to their church leader, and not to their recognised God.
Big Dave
10th March 2006, 17:47
I, but something about Tamaki makes me a bit jumpy, I could just be being silly, but its a very real feeling I get.


Press bias or not - the track record of his ilk is pretty shabby too.
El Dopa
10th March 2006, 17:52
Bishop Tamaki fits the Phil Collins Song called "Jesus he know me" down to the last note!!!...

snip

...everything is alright!

He also fits the 'suicidal tendancies' song 'send me your money'

Welcome to the church of Suicidal
We'll have a service and wonderful recital
But before we go on, there's something I must mention
An important message I must bring to your attention
I was in meditation and prayer last night
I was awakened by a shining bright light
Over head, a glorious spirit
He gave me a message and you all need to hear it
"Send me your money", that's what he said
He said to "Send me your money"
Now if you can only send a dollar or two
There aint a hell of alot I can do for you
But, if you want to see heaven's door
Make a check out for five hundred or more
"Send me your money", do you here what I'm saying?
"Send me your money"

Here comes another con hiding behind a collar
His only god is the almighty dollar
He aint no prophet, he aint no healer
He's just a two bit goddamn money stealer
Send me your money
Send it, you got to send it
Send me your money
You hear what I'm saying?
Send it, send it
Send me your money
Now how much you give is your own choice
But to me it's the difference between a prosche and a Rolls Royce
I want you to make it hurt when you dig into your pocket
I want you to make it hurt!
We'll take cash, we'll take checks
We'll take credit cards, we'll take jewelry
We'll take your momma's dentures if they got gold in them
So whose gonna be the next king of the fakers
Whose gonna take the place of Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker?

[QUOTE=ManDownUnder]I've not seen anything outside what the press offers up (and lets face the facts - they can be a little biased toward the "dramatic")...
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Well, he used to be broadcast unedited on TV2 early in the mornings, between 6 and 7. So I've seen what he's offering a couple of times. Take it from me, hes an A-grade cock knocker.
kro
10th March 2006, 20:18
Press bias or not - the track record of his ilk is pretty shabby too.

The public track record, granted, is very sensationalistic, and doesn't lend itself to propagating the faith in a positive light, but being devils advocate means I have to draw attention to the things these people do which is unseen, and un-media "raped" which is the distribution of money to where it is actually needed, and the very real grass roots outworking of the very fundamental teachings of God, where the hungry are fed, and the naked are clothed.

The media will always come in at an angle that suits the desires of the masses, but in doing so, leaves the whole picture obscured with prejudice.

All that aside, Tamaki sets off alarm bells.:devil2:
Motu
10th March 2006, 20:38
Pope Brian has a new hmmmmm.Some of you may know the tune....hum along on your knees...

I will follow Him
Follow Him wherever He may go,
And near Him, I always will be
For nothing can keep me away,
He is my destiny.

I will follow Him,
Ever since He touched my heart I knew,
There isn't an ocean too deep,
A mountain so high it can keep,
Keep me away, away from His love.

I love Him, I love Him, I love Him,
And where He goes,
I'll follow, I'll follow, I'll follow.
he'll always be my true love, my true love, my true love
from now until forever, forever, forever

I will follow Him,
Follow Him wherever He may go,
There isn't an ocean too deep,
A mountain so high it can keep,
Keep me away, away from His love...

We will follow Him,
Follow Him wherever He may go,
There isn't an ocean too deep,
A mountain so high it can keep,
Keep us away, away from His love...

I love Him
(Oh yes I love Him)
I'll follow
(I'm gonna follow)
True love
(He'll always be my true, true love)
Forever
(Now until forever)
I love Him, I love Him, I love Him,
And where He goes,
I'll follow, I'll follow, I'll follow,
He'll always be my true love,
My true love, my true love,
From now until forever,
Forever, forever...

There isn't an ocean too deep,
A mountain so high it can keep,
Keep me away, away from His love
Skyryder
10th March 2006, 20:48
Can't say iu think much of the guy, but it's a free country. If his devotees want to make him a present of a pile of dosh, i guess that's their right. No-one's forcing them to. Adults making decisions of their own free will and all that. Freedom necessaily includes the freedom to do stupid things.

Truth be that the decision was made by two or three 'managers,' who informed the church members and being the sheep of the flock stood idly by not daring to say a word against it as this would be interperted as a criticism of the church leadership and Tamiki. Seen this sort of thing in other organisations. Stand up and be counted and you are ostricised.

Skyryder
El Dopa
10th March 2006, 20:52
Seen this sort of thing in other organisations. Stand up and be counted and you are ostricised.Skyryder

Don't you mean cults?
Timber020
10th March 2006, 20:55
Im suprised with his criminal convictions he is allowed overseas.........
Cookie
10th March 2006, 20:57
"Jesus saves - Bishop Tamaki spends"

And the guy is a fashion tragedy.
SixPackBack
11th March 2006, 04:21
Dictionary definition of a cult:
A system or community of religious worship and ritual.
That makes the catholics,anglicans, muslims to name a few, cults with all the connotations the word possesses.
Tamaki is cashing in on stupidity and fear and no different to any other 'cult'.
Aitch
11th March 2006, 08:50
Yup can't stand the :tugger: He has these people totally brain washed and I feel very sorry for his wife...the clothes...the hair!!! HE IS SOOOOO GAY!!!

I'm amazed that he hasn't been accused of rogering the choir boys yet!
Tell ya what though, no matter how much contemptuous I find his cult, I can't help but admire his business acumen! How long till he sells to the Aussies for $700 million?
Aitch
11th March 2006, 08:52
The public track record, granted, is very sensationalistic, and doesn't lend itself to propagating the faith in a positive light, but being devils advocate means I have to draw attention to the things these people do which is unseen, and un-media "raped" which is the distribution of money to where it is actually needed, and the very real grass roots outworking of the very fundamental teachings of God, where the hungry are fed, and the naked are clothed.

The media will always come in at an angle that suits the desires of the masses, but in doing so, leaves the whole picture obscured with prejudice.

All that aside, Tamaki sets off alarm bells.:devil2:

Don't wanna sound cynical, but hte only people Destiny has clothed or fed are its leader and his acolytes. I'm happy to be corrected if someone has verifiable evidence to the contrary.....
dawnrazor
11th March 2006, 09:05
The thing that gets me about this proto christian cunt is.........HE'S A BIKER........you wanker Brian, mind you it is a harley i believe (says something I suppose:blip: )

Not only does the devil get all the best tunes I'll bet he doesn't ponce around on no Harley neither