View Full Version : Rossi Challenges Alonso to a Duel!!!
skelstar
16th March 2006, 10:36
Read this via www.onewheeldrive.net:
MotoGP champion Valentino Rossi has challenged Formula One champion Fernando Alonso to a high-speed duel to see who is quickest.
The 24-year-old Renault driver said last month he was unimpressed by Rossi's Formula One tests for Ferrari and felt it would be very hard for him to switch from two wheels to four.
"He might finish fifth or even get on the podium some time but I could do the same on the bikes if I was given enough time to practise," the Spaniard told a news conference.
The words appeared to have stung Rossi, who was quoted by British weekly Motorcycle News as saying he wanted to put Alonso to the test.
"I read that if Alonso is able to make some practice then he can put a MotoGP bike on the podium with me," said the 27-year-old Italian.
"Well, I think we should drive a Formula One car, a World Rally car and a MotoGP bike, add the times together and then we will see who is the fastest."
Rossi, winner in motorcycling's top category for the past five years, has tested repeatedly for Ferrari including a session in February with other drivers.
The charismatic Italian has also competed in rallies and Ferrari's seven times world champion Michael Schumacher has said Italy's highest-paid sportsman has the talent to make the switch to Formula One.
Alonso won Formula One's season-opening Bahrain Grand Prix at the weekend.
ducatilover
16th March 2006, 10:46
id like to see what happens there, although i cant see many people coming close to rossi:apumpin:
onearmedbandit
16th March 2006, 10:49
Oh yeah, I hope this happens.
bugjuice
16th March 2006, 10:50
i'd pay to watch that..
i'd also love to do that
just hope Rossi knows where is fans are..
SimJen
16th March 2006, 10:52
Sounds like it'd be fun to watch.
With Rossi's times on the Bike being way quicker than what Alonso will do, plus the fact Rossi is reasonably quick in the F1 car. I can only see Rossi winning.
There's no way Alonso can match a decent pace (similar to Rossi's F1 pace) on the Motogp bike.
Only problem will be insurances, Alonso's team will not let him ride a Motogp bike......
riffer
16th March 2006, 10:53
Haven't any of you guys watched "Faster"?
Rossi may have troubles with the rally car ...
Nutter34
16th March 2006, 10:54
Alonso will never do it....
Better to be thought a fool than to be proven one, I think about sums it up...
Then again, his pride might make him prove he's a fool....
imdying
16th March 2006, 10:56
Ahahahaah, ROSSI FTW!!
enigma51
16th March 2006, 10:57
Haven't any of you guys watched "Faster"?
Rossi may have troubles with the rally car ...
No problems with the car had a problem with a tree :bleh:
Fishy
16th March 2006, 10:57
Go Rossi!. hey..... this all sounds a bit like Zed vs Mikey (only on a MUCH larger scale!)
vifferman
16th March 2006, 10:58
Haven't any of you guys watched "Faster"?
Rossi may have troubles with the rally car ...
No, I haven't. But I know Rossi loves rallying, and has spent quite some tme behind the wheel of rally cars. His dad was also a rally driver.
I'd put my money on him before Alonso.
enigma51
16th March 2006, 10:59
Alonso will never do it....
Better to be thought a fool than to be proven one, I think about sums it up...
Then again, his pride might make him prove he's a fool....
mate if i was alonso I will take the challenge even if I loose I will be able to say I had a spin on a non detuned motogp bike :Punk: (aparently when yamaha honda etc give journalist the motogp bikes to test drive they de tune them to puppies!)
SimJen
16th March 2006, 11:01
Haven't any of you guys watched "Faster"?
Rossi may have troubles with the rally car ...
That was a one-off. Im sure Alonso has pranged a few cars in his time.
Rossi has done pretty well in the Michelin Race of Champions http://www.raceofchampions.com/ and got into the finals in 2000 driving 4 wheelers of some sort.
The duel will never happen :(
enigma51
16th March 2006, 11:02
No, I haven't. But I know Rossi loves rallying, and has spent quite some tme behind the wheel of rally cars. His dad was also a rally driver.
I'd put my money on him before Alonso.
he beat colim macrae in the italion motor week which rossi's old man runs at the end of the motogp season!
TygerTung
16th March 2006, 11:06
HAHA yeah right as if that dude with the forumular one will do any good on a bike, it takes years to get good on a bike, I wouldn't like to ride one of those motoGP bikes too fast for me.
If you can ride a bike fast you could probably drive a car fast, although I think one of those F1 cars would be a bit fast for me too, but more forgiving.
Lou Girardin
16th March 2006, 11:06
There'll only be one result. Alonso will be aloser.
limbimtimwim
16th March 2006, 11:09
he beat colim macrae in the italion motor week which rossi's old man runs at the end of the motogp season!He beat Colin in a car or on a bike? Apprently Macrae is a fantastic rider, and was basically given the choice. He choose rally instead. Possibly because of the longer average life span..
Lazy7
16th March 2006, 11:12
yeap. while those F1 cars are quick, they have ALOT of stuff in them to make them alot easier to drive fast than a bike has to allow you to ride that fast.
a bike doesn't have traction control, an automated gearbox, launch control, blah blah blah.
from my point of view, if i were to ride a bike or drive an F1 car - i personally would back myself to get closer to Alonso's times in the car than Rossi's times on the bike.
limbimtimwim
16th March 2006, 11:18
If you can ride a bike fast you could probably drive a car fast, although I think one of those F1 cars would be a bit fast for me too, but more forgiving.Remember when Niki Lauda essentially "Anybody can drive an F1 car these days! All computers and shit!"
So someone let him have a go in a recent car.
He spun it, I think on the first corner.
Postie
16th March 2006, 11:19
all i can say is, I hope Rossi is sporting enough to give Aloseo a couple of minutes head start so there is some competion at least.
limbimtimwim
16th March 2006, 11:19
a bike doesn't have traction control, an automated gearbox, launch control, blah blah blah.The GP bikes have TC.
HenryDorsetCase
16th March 2006, 11:21
a bike doesn't have traction control, an automated gearbox, launch control, blah blah blah.
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MotoGP bikes do.
Buy Aprils Cycle World when it comes out: Randy Mamola (still quick, and second best in the world a number of times) tests all the GP bikes.
Motu
16th March 2006, 11:27
As Niki proved,F1 cars aren't that easy to drive.
Rossi is showing something we haven't seen in a long,long time - multi talented.There are few pinacles left to climb - only one man has won a World Chamionship in a vehicle bearing his own name...Jack Brabham,no one has won a motorcycle championship on a bike bearing their own name.Only one man has won both 2 and 4 wheel Championships...all Rossi can do is equal Surtees.But maybe get more championships in each.?
Alonso is a non starter in this challenge.
imdying
16th March 2006, 11:27
Dumb question, how does a bike with traction control rear wheel steer?
Lazy7
16th March 2006, 11:38
Dumb question, how does a bike with traction control rear wheel steer?
i would guess if the rear wheel was spinning faster than the front?
would be the only way to work it out???
but then how do they do mono's?
news to me.
onearmedbandit
16th March 2006, 11:51
The traction control isn't there to completely kill wheel spin, just limit it. Still traction control.
sugilite
16th March 2006, 12:02
I reckon that the 10 fastest KB riders would crush Alonso on a bike by a larger time than he would beat them by in car, yet alone what Rossi would do to him!
Lou Girardin
16th March 2006, 12:08
Traction control, wheelie control, launch control. Electronic back torque limiter.
They aren't bikes as we know them.
skelstar
16th March 2006, 12:25
They all sound like heavy systems to have on a bike. Cant believe it would be worth it.
limbimtimwim
16th March 2006, 12:37
They all sound like heavy systems to have on a bike. Cant believe it would be worth it.They already have fly-by-wire throttle, so there is a computer, it already knows the speed on the wheels. Adding a bit more computing power wouldn't take much. The small increase in battery output (I assume they run total loss ignition) would be small as well.
aff-man
16th March 2006, 12:50
Sounds like Alonso hasn't ridden a proper bike ever...
As said before probably won't let him race cause he'll kill himself on a GPbike.
Rossi's probably doesn't have that problem cause his management knows that if they give him shit he can race for whoever he wants basically in in F1 or GP :Punk: :Punk: .
Doubt he'll like F1 only being able to pass someone a handfull of time in the season though:shake: :shake:
R6_kid
16th March 2006, 13:45
if you talk you better walk, better back yo shit up!
ducatilover
16th March 2006, 14:52
They all sound like heavy systems to have on a bike. Cant believe it would be worth it.
with around 240hp? i think id like those systems!
crash harry
16th March 2006, 15:08
They all sound like heavy systems to have on a bike. Cant believe it would be worth it.
Software doesn't really weigh anything...
The engine management system is already there, the rest is just software really.
Back-torque limiting might still be a conventional slipper clutch, but the weight-gain is minimal compared to the price of NOT having it!
enigma51
16th March 2006, 15:13
He beat Colin in a car or on a bike? Apprently Macrae is a fantastic rider, and was basically given the choice. He choose rally instead. Possibly because of the longer average life span..
rally car!
thealmightytaco
16th March 2006, 15:54
Y'alls is one eyed, I think it'd be close, but Alonso would need some SERIOUS ridin' time.
onearmedbandit
16th March 2006, 15:56
That's the point.
Lazy7
16th March 2006, 16:23
with around 240hp? i think id like those systems!
240hp! fuck me!
Motu
16th March 2006, 16:26
Rossi/Kimi would be the better duel,Kimi rides bikes and ain't arfraid of nothing.Personaly I think he's a better driver than Alonso (22nd to 3rd in the last race) just unbelievably unlucky.You may think he has no personality - but I think he has the most personality of all the F1 drivers...he's not very corporate....
Edbear
16th March 2006, 16:51
I'd love to see it myself! Rossi would cream Alonso! Alonso is quick and knows a thing or two about driving F1 cars, and would probably pip Rossi in a fair duel, but there's only a select few riders in the world who can go wheel to wheel with Rossi on a GP bike! He's a freak! As for the rally cars, it wouldn't really be an issue who was faster overall. I agree though, Alonso would probably be banned fom having a go on a GP bike. Far too dangerous for his mangaement team I'd say. :drinknsin
Grumpy
16th March 2006, 17:14
I think that Alonso is demonstrating just how inexperienced he is at dealing with media. Unfortunately lots of talent and lack of years tends to result in a runnaway mouth.
Merwood
16th March 2006, 18:13
Alonso is trying to run with the big boys, hes a girl scout compared to Rossi.
Id pay to see Alonso on a motogp bike :killingme. Rossi would win easy
ducatilover
16th March 2006, 20:03
240hp! fuck me!
nice little amount of power isnt it?:weird:
sAsLEX
16th March 2006, 21:43
They all sound like heavy systems to have on a bike. Cant believe it would be worth it.
A microcontroller would weigh all of fuck all and the wires and sensors are already there, like someone said its just software
Lou Girardin
17th March 2006, 07:22
You may think he has no personality - but I think he has the most personality of all the F1 drivers....
How can you tell?
Darryboy
17th March 2006, 07:54
Yeah, I've heard Kimi's an out of it dude and got into trouble with McLaren a short while back for partying to hard. I reckon when you see him on the cameras it'd be like Ron Dennis had his finger on the button to Kimi's shock collar or something.
Bring back the good old days I say! When F1 drivers were some the biggest piss heads out there.
Pixie
17th March 2006, 12:35
Rossi/Kimi would be the better duel,Kimi rides bikes and ain't arfraid of nothing.Personaly I think he's a better driver than Alonso (22nd to 3rd in the last race) just unbelievably unlucky.You may think he has no personality - but I think he has the most personality of all the F1 drivers...he's not very corporate....
None of the Modern F1 drivers have personality...they remove it to save weight
Motu
17th March 2006, 13:16
They don't need a personality - there is one already crafted by the press manager...a winning smile with good dental work...
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