WHAT do you think about this

[gt244]

Hi
What do u guys think about this bike Suzuki GSXF 250 Across.And what price would you pay for it.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/mcat-0001%2D0026%2D0135%2D/0001-0026-0135-/auction-10597035.htm

Thanks for your help
:banana:

[vifferman]

If this is a starter bike, I'd avoid it, as all that plastic is going to get damaged (and cost a lot) if you drop it.
If you have plenty of experience, then it could be a good bike, as it *looks* tidy, in the photo at least. I'd ask lots of questions about it, even 'stupid' ones (remember - there are no stupid questions, only stupid answers).

Personally, I dunno much about these bikes, so that's about all the advice I can give you - hope it helps.

[Cajun]

Suzuki across suzuki 250 4 cylinder with pop up tank. its not as ballsy as a gsxr250 but they arn't to bad. Be a good learners bike. Most 250 are over priced for what they are really, so i guess it should go somewhere around $2500-$3000 at least

[Hitcher]

You would be happier buying a Yamaha FZX250 Zeal. Superior to the Across in almost every respect (engine performance, handling, braking, comfort). Don't just take my word for it -- Google it and read the reviews!

As luck would have it, I have one for sale (see the listing on the Bike Trader link). I am prepared to be negotiable on price and delivery. Make me an offer -- you may be surprised...

[Ghost Lemur]

Got any links there Hitcher? Did a quick google and couldn't find much. In fact only a single link when I googled "FZX250 review", and that wasn't even a review.

Just one question about naked/streetfighter bikes. How are they on the open road? They don't look very aerodynamic. Also, wouldn't it be a better idea for a novice rider to get a bike with full fairing as it would protect the engine etc if it gets binned?

[riffer]

Here's one:

http://www.dropbears.com/m/models/roadtests/zeal250.htm

[Hitcher]

Got any links there Hitcher? Did a quick google and couldn't find much. In fact only a single link when I googled "FZX250 review", and that wasn't even a review.

Just one question about naked/streetfighter bikes. How are they on the open road? They don't look very aerodynamic. Also, wouldn't it be a better idea for a novice rider to get a bike with full fairing as it would protect the engine etc if it gets binned?

Google the whole thing "Yamaha FZX250 Zeal". You'll even find a link to my recent TradeMe auction!!

I have a Givi screen fitted to mine -- it stops the rider wearing a lot of wind. I guess there's two ways of looking at fairings -- they bust if the bike gets binned, which may or may not protect the engine, etc.

"Aerodynamic" and "250" is a bit of an oxymoron... They're not going to go much quicker than about 140-150kmh anyway (well not with surplus kg-worth of me on them anyway), so a fairing isn't going to help that much with "slicing through the wind". They do however improve rider comfort, hence the Givi screen!

[Ghost Lemur]

Cheers celtic and Hitcher. Btw Hitcher, got this (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22Yamaha+FZX250+Zeal%22&as_q=1991&btnG=Search%C2%A0within%C2%A0results) result on one of my searches. :D

3 out of six of the links refer to your bike. :laugh:

[Hitcher]

Cheers celtic and Hitcher. Btw Hitcher, got this (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22Yamaha+FZX250+Zeal%22&as_q=1991&btnG=Search%C2%A0within%C2%A0results) result on one of my searches. :D

3 out of six of the links refer to your bike. :laugh:

And yet nobody wants to buy it... *sigh*

[jrandom]

Also, wouldn't it be a better idea for a novice rider to get a bike with full fairing as it would protect the engine etc if it gets binned?

Well, hmmm. The cost of replacing fairing panels is usually pretty high in itself. Naked/standard style bikes are generally considered to be cheaper in a crash. Unless you have a BMW boxer twin or similar you're unlikely to do particularly horrible damage to the engine in a typical lowside.

[Motoracer]

Unless you have a BMW boxer twin or similar you're unlikely to do particularly horrible damage to the engine in a typical lowside.

Shit yea man! I'd be pretty scared to ride them around. Also the Moto Guzzis. Its like asking for trouble if you ask me (I know, I know, all you have to do is not crash it... but what if?) It'll be interesting to see crash results of these bikes with boxer or V twin adjecent to the rider engines.

[Two Smoker]

We will jst need to wait for Posh Tourer or milky to reply about the boxer twins.... Their dad knows absolutely everything about them..... he has also crashed them, but most of the older boxer twins i see have crash bars...... hence no engine damage.....

[Ghost Lemur]

And yet nobody wants to buy it... *sigh*

I'd be seriously considering it if I had all my bike money together and it was a bit cheaper. Instead I'm still forced to stay in "window shopping" mode. :(

[Posh Tourer :P]

Well, hmmm. The cost of replacing fairing panels is usually pretty high in itself. Naked/standard style bikes are generally considered to be cheaper in a crash. Unless you have a BMW boxer twin or similar you're unlikely to do particularly horrible damage to the engine in a typical lowside.


Yep, I had to reply to that. My mother binned her 750 beemer at slow speed late last week. Crash bar hit, light scratches on bottom of cylinder, crashbar, muffler and pannier, all of which could be sanded/ground out very easily. Try fixing a slow speed bin on your GSX250.... you'll need plasitc welding and painting at least. Also, on milky's ZXR (ooo new bike :)), the engine pokes out the side of the fairing anyway, so it would get scratched. Also, beemer twins are very easy to pick up again, even if they weigh 200kg or so. Even my mother (5'2" and not very strong, age 50-something) could pick it up again.

Of course, if you do lowside badly at very high speed, you may need to replace the rocker cover, but I bet that would be as expensive as replacing whatever else on a naked bike. Another plus is that the handlebars ought not to hit the ground either.

[Posh Tourer :P]

Shit yea man! I'd be pretty scared to ride them around. Also the Moto Guzzis. Its like asking for trouble if you ask me (I know, I know, all you have to do is not crash it... but what if?) It'll be interesting to see crash results of these bikes with boxer or V twin adjecent to the rider engines.

What sort of damage would you expect? The disadvantage I can see is the pot hitting a kerb on the apex of the corner, but the advantage is when you bin, there is no way you will trap your leg.....

[Motoracer]

On the ZXR, the only bit that really sticks out is the stator cover and thats not really a biggie.

I can't really say what might be damaged cause I haven't really looked at the BMer engine up close and studied its internals. I guess I would expect the rocker cover to get damaged. I am not sure how costly that is to repair. If BMW bikes are anything like the cars, I'd say F-ing expensive.

[Two Smoker]

On the ZXR, the only bit that really sticks out is the stator cover and thats not really a biggie.

I can't really say what might be damaged cause I haven't really looked at the BMer engine up close and studied its internals. I guess I would expect the rocker cover to get damaged. I am not sure how costly that is to repair. If BMW bikes are anything like the cars, I'd say F-ing expensive.
Trust me mate, it will be fucking expensive, especially considering a BMW bike has similar cost to Ducati :wacko: ........

[Posh Tourer :P]

On the ZXR, the only bit that really sticks out is the stator cover and thats not really a biggie.

I can't really say what might be damaged cause I haven't really looked at the BMer engine up close and studied its internals. I guess I would expect the rocker cover to get damaged. I am not sure how costly that is to repair. If BMW bikes are anything like the cars, I'd say F-ing expensive.

I'll be at puke on the 23rd (just to watch) so you can inspect it then :) Old beemers arent too bad - then again I get contacts in germany etc etc, so have ways of not buying new off factory, the new beemers will be bloody expensive.....Then again, all bikes are expensive to repair, I would compare new rocker cover to new side fairing, and say beemer is cheaper, but that might be biased.....
We can continue this discussion on the 23rd if you would like :)

[Drew]

If I were you, I'd ask for some pics of the left hand side, seems strange to me, that there are two right hand shots.
Also, I knew a guy that had an accross, he had all sorts of problems, when it ate all of it's exhaust valves at once. :doh:
Took months to get the bits ex Japan.
GSXR is better, and more different than you'd think.

[Motoracer]

We can continue this discussion on the 23rd if you would like :)

Cool cool, looking forward to meeting you and some of the other characters from the site that I haven't already met.