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SPman
16th March 2006, 16:56
Well, Motorcycle online has had its 2006 big boys comparo..........
and the winner is.............

"The Honda was interesting as a demonstration of how far Honda will go to compromise or alter some of its traditional ideas about sportbike design to be the best. When Honda changed user-friendly character to build a racetrack winner, they took away a great feature that was attractive to the many novice trackday and street riders out there. Sure, it's a lot of fun for someone at Dirty's level of ability to go nuts with on the track, or do highly illegal things with on the street, but those with less ability will just be perplexed - and scared. The Yamaha is the same wonderful bike it was two years ago, but at this level -- the 1000 cc sportbike class -- the competition is demanding. A bike has to have an outstanding, earth-shattering level of performance to hold up as a winner through the three or four years of its product life cycle. The Yamaha is a great bike -- it narrowly missed winning our seven-bike 2004 Open-Class shootout (http://www.motorcycle.com/mo/mccompare/04_Open_Class_Shootout/index.motml) -- but it's not good enough to beat two very excellent machines. All the miniscule flaws we picked about the Yamaha, like the tall gearing, slightly sloppy gearbox, and heat emanating from under the seat, added up to make the R1 feel a little old-fashioned, and it's remarkable that it beat an almost totally redesigned Honda. We think you will be totally happy owning this bike, as long as you don't mind that there are better, more modern and faster bikes out there.
That finally brings us to the more modern and faster bikes. The first is the ZX-10R. Sean was very emphatic before we started testing that it would win; ridden alone on a fast, smooth track like Fontana it seemed like an incredible, world-beating bike. But ridden in the real world, against a supremely engineered bike like the GSX-R, it didn't feel as dominating. We were also surprised when Dale, a Kawasaki fanatic, picked the Suzuki, despite raving about how fast that ZX-10R was.
The ZX-10R isn't a bad bike. In fact, it's an amazing bike. Anything that makes 166 hp --stock -- should never be dismissed out of hand. However, how that power gets from the motor to the pavement -- and how well your brain and hand can control it -- is more important than how much power there actually is.
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No other bike since the first-generation R1 has won a MO shootout two years in a row with practically no changes. The GSX-R was able to win against three other very competent challengers because it succeeds in so many areas. First, it's really, really fast. If you can't use all of 161 hp, you can't use 166, either, so the Kawasaki's five-horse advantage -- which would be a huge lead in a 600cc shootout -- isn't really that glaring. Second, it's comfortable in a way that encourages the rider to go faster, by dint of that instantly familiar feeling a few of us reported. Finally, the chassis is responsive and forgiving, friendly to the less-skilled among us while still keeping those with more ability amused.
[I]You could say all those things about the Kawasaki, too. But what the Kawasaki lacks is that angry, untamable feel that the GSX-R has. The Ten has been tamed a bit too much, but the Suzuki still has enough edge and character to really stand out in this company. We've said it before, but it still makes sense: buying a motorcycle, especially one in this category, is pretty irrational. The GSX-R is practical, reliable and a good value, but it's also a wild-eyed maniac when you want it to be. If that's what you need, then a GSX-R should be in your future".

Smokin
16th March 2006, 17:01
well no surprizes there.

Coyote
16th March 2006, 17:03
Plus the new ZX10R has shitty headlights. I'd pic the GSXR just for that

madboy
16th March 2006, 17:05
Bugger... wish they'd hurry up and release a new R1. I like the local yamaha dealer better than the suzuki dealer. Besides, who doesn't own a GSX-R?

Edbear
16th March 2006, 17:06
Couldn't have put it better myself! Not that I've ridden any of them! But I think once you get into this level, it really is down to persoanl likes and dislikes rather than the relative competence of the bikes. Each of tem would be far more capable than most of us on the road.:crazy:

MSTRS
17th March 2006, 08:54
Bugger... wish they'd hurry up and release a new R1. I like the local yamaha dealer better than the suzuki dealer. Besides, who doesn't own a GSX-R?
You .

pritch
17th March 2006, 11:54
I think once you get into this level, it really is down to personal likes and dislikes rather than the relative competence of the bikes. Each of them would be far more capable than most of us on the road.


Exactly, but a point often missed by the magazine writers.

APPLE
17th March 2006, 17:53
like yah say?as if it matters......

Quasievil
17th March 2006, 18:21
the Kawasaki lacks is that angry, untamable feel that the GSX-R has. The Ten has been tamed a bit too much, but the Suzuki still has enough edge and character to really stand out in this company. We've said it before, but it still makes sense: buying a motorcycle, especially one in this category, is pretty irrational. The GSX-R is practical, reliable and a good value, but it's also a wild-eyed maniac when you want it to be. If that's what you need, then a GSX-R should be in your future".

kwaka lacks is that angry untamable feel that the GSX has ???? yeah righto whatever
the gsxr should be in your future ???? what with a trip to the local dealer to get the two time already replaced sensors on the engine done ...... again ?

Sheesh, wait for the real shootout, its called masterbike of the year, that test is done properly.

Buster
17th March 2006, 18:36
Go the mighty GSXR!!!

SPman
17th March 2006, 18:46
Sheesh, wait for the real shootout, its called masterbike of the year, that test is done properly.
But...................every test is done properly.......isnt it?

cowpoos
17th March 2006, 19:18
who gives a flyin fuck which is real world better......

I bet the zx10r is faster and better made.....and excites the rider more than the gixxer thou!!!!!

Quasievil
17th March 2006, 19:22
who gives a flyin fuck which is real world better......

I bet the zx10r is faster and better made.....and excites the rider more than the gixxer thou!!!!!


Damn your a on to it bastard Mr poos rep for you my son

SixPackBack
17th March 2006, 19:30
Having ridden both the zx10 and gixxer....gixxer wins by a mile:2thumbsup
Brand loyalty?..nup I couldnt care a shit.

cowpoos
17th March 2006, 19:36
Damn your a on to it bastard Mr poos rep for you my son

fuck a bro...I tell ya its a shame kawa don't make a 750....I'ld hav one....
although....I heard a rumour about a zx800r recently.....an odd sized engine.....but very interesting specs I was told with it....

riffer
17th March 2006, 20:38
I heard a rumour about a zx800r recently.....an odd sized engine...

Not so odd when you consider that MotoGP moves to 800cc next year ...

if Kawasaki can come up with a good bike this season and get some podium finishes it may be worth looking at some kind of replica bike for 2007/8.

DEATH_INC.
18th March 2006, 07:44
Fark that, gimme the kwaka, five horse is five horse after all :crazy:

SARGE
18th March 2006, 08:02
you should see the new Gixxer600 k6.. we have one here for the weekend.. its one of the most incredible bikes i have ever ridden...


not that i have ridden it... :whistle:

APPLE
19th March 2006, 09:17
you should see the new Gixxer600 k6.. we have one here for the weekend.. its one of the most incredible bikes i have ever ridden...


not that i have ridden it... :whistle:
TRU DAT? MIGHT HAV TO GET ME ONE OF THO"S