View Full Version : Auckland Tank Farm - Have your say
texmo
16th March 2006, 20:16
we only get one chance (http://www.weonlygetonechance.co.nz/index.html)The Domain, One Tree Hill and Albert Park are examples of beautiful, well-utilised areas that have been loved by generations of Aucklanders.
Wynyard Point (The Tank Farm) is comprised of 35 ha of prime waterfront land. It has the potential to become a waterfront landmark for Auckland, helping to make our waterfront enviable on a world scale. We need to plan for its future using a much broader context than the Ports of Auckland and Auckland City are currently using.
Auckland City has presented its draft plans for the area and submissions close this Friday, March 17th
Your opinion will make a difference. Please don’t put it off.
sorry if this has been posted but I would hate to see this place covered in apartments.
myvice
16th March 2006, 20:25
How about a car park for 4WD's? The salt air will be good for them...
And the ground is flammable too! Heh heh heh :devil2:
Ixion
16th March 2006, 21:22
I would hate to see it covered in apartments for the rich priviledged few, too. Well done that man, have an orang-utan. I've sent in my submission.
texmo
16th March 2006, 21:29
good on ya Ixion we need more to follow suit. It will be shit council will make money off it and use that to remove all the trees in the innner CBD and replace them with cabbage tress, thats just wrong.... RANT RANT RANT
Finn
17th March 2006, 09:44
I have already put my submission in. A combination of European style shops, cafes and restaurants, a recreational area with residential apartments. I live in the area and I don't want my rates paying for a park that will attract all the riff raff from wider Auckland. We already have this problem in Pt Erin Pools. None of the locals use it cause it has a 50/50 ratio of urine to water thanks to all the islanders that inhibit the place. Also, during the summer month's when it opens, crime sky rockets in the surrounding area.
Flatcap
17th March 2006, 11:29
I have already put my submission in. A combination of European style shops, cafes and restaurants, a recreational area with residential apartments. I live in the area and I don't want my rates paying for a park that will attract all the riff raff from wider Auckland. We already have this problem in Pt Erin Pools. None of the locals use it cause it has a 50/50 ratio of urine to water thanks to all the islanders that inhibit the place. Also, during the summer month's when it opens, crime sky rockets in the surrounding area.
Sounds like the ideal solution to me, Finn. The land needs to be productive and bring in some revenue for the council otherwise there is a risk of another rate hike to pay for the development...
Motu
17th March 2006, 13:07
I think it sucks the way some groups in our society are victimised by the law,media and public alike - The Black Power Headquarters in Mt Wellington was busted a couple of days ago,so now they will have to move again and go through all the hassle of marking their turf.We are making it very hard for these guys to settle into the lifestyle they prefer.
I suggest we set up the Tank Farm as a micro enviroment for these victimised groups,a dedicated facility.Well lit hydroponic farms,laborities,dog pits and rape rooms.Each compound would have a proper fortress wall,no more corrogated iron fences to blot the landscape.There could also be a tourist industry around the complex,with armoured buses....mock battles in the streets,TAB on the dogs,join in an identity parade.
I can see no better use for this scungy area....
Ixion
17th March 2006, 16:01
It would make a blurdy good place for a motor racing track !
pyrocam
17th March 2006, 17:28
my god man......
a new track
I think you might just have something there cracker jack
Skyryder
18th March 2006, 13:39
I suggest we set up the Tank Farm as a micro enviroment for these victimised groups,a dedicated facility.Well lit hydroponic farms,laborities,dog pits and rape rooms.Each compound would have a proper fortress wall,no more corrogated iron fences to blot the landscape.There could also be a tourist industry around the complex,with armoured buses....mock battles in the streets,TAB on the dogs,join in an identity parade.
I can see no better use for this scungy area....
I think Germany tried this in the thirties and forties. It was for real and did not work. :ar15: :ar15: :ar15:
Skyryder
Winston001
18th March 2006, 18:57
Develop it so the Auckland City Council can make lots of money. Then it won't need to sponge off the rest of NZ to pay for roads, rail tracks, rich guys yacht races etc etc. :whistle:
Swoop
18th March 2006, 19:37
Well done that man, have an orang-utan.
Too strong for me, I'll stick to my monkeys.
A decent landmark building at the end that denotes Auckland. Sort of like the "Nuns-in-a-scrum" that syeeedneee has.
There was a design back in the '70's for an upside down pyramid on the breakwater, that would have been the RNZYS building. Definately different.:cool:
Flatcap
18th March 2006, 21:17
Develop it so the Auckland City Council can make lots of money. Then it won't need to sponge off the rest of NZ to pay for roads, rail tracks, rich guys yacht races etc etc. :whistle:
Good try Winston - the simple fact is that no matter what mainlanders think, Auckland is the powerhouse of the country and provides funding for whatever bullshit you need in Southland. The sooner the rest of you inbred and feral bastards realise this the better.
The rest of NZ is has been diverting funds for years from Auckland and now it is payback time.
I say this as a West Coaster so don't give me any of this Jaffa crap.
Kind Regards
metric
18th March 2006, 22:25
I suggest we set up the Tank Farm as a micro enviroment for these victimised groups,a dedicated facility.Well lit hydroponic farms,laborities,dog pits and rape rooms.Each compound would have a proper fortress wall,no more corrogated iron fences to blot the landscape.There could also be a tourist industry around the complex,with armoured buses....mock battles in the streets,TAB on the dogs,join in an identity parade.
got my vote...
Winston001
20th March 2006, 14:21
Good try Winston - the simple fact is that no matter what mainlanders think, Auckland is the powerhouse of the country and provides funding for whatever bullshit you need in Southland. The sooner the rest of you inbred and feral bastards realise this the better.
AHA - you fell into my wily trap. This "Auckland is the powerhouse of NZ" nonsence has been around for a while. It is repeated faithfully and non-critically by journalists until it has become an article of faith.
It isn't true. NZ's wealth comes from agriculture, fishing, forestry, and tourism. Of those only tourism involves Auckland. Our ability to import oil, cars, computers, machinery etc etc is only possible because we as a nation earn foreign exchange.
I'm not saying Auckland doesn't contribute but it is small-time compared to the provinces.
Tell me of anything essential which I can't get locally or directly from overseas. At present Auckland is the default because so many companies have moved head offices there. But in truth, those offices could be in Sydney or Christchurch for all the difference they make.
Nothing wrong with Auckland or the Kiwis who live there. It's a shame they are living an illusion. :D
Lias
21st March 2006, 14:03
Auckland wouldnt be such a shithole that leeches of the rest of the country if it wasnt also the center for immigration.
The sooner we shut our doors to anyone whos not rich and speaks perfect english the better. Who else has seen the stories of overstaying wifebeaters who dont get deported, of the mangere refugee center, of achmed the terrorist zaoui and his ilk sucking up our resources.
I vote we use the land for an australian style migrant detention center to hold the human trash while we deny their refugee status and ship them back to wherever the fuck they came from.
Finn
21st March 2006, 14:11
Auckland wouldnt be such a shithole that leeches of the rest of the country if it wasnt also the center for immigration.
The sooner we shut our doors to anyone whos not rich and speaks perfect english the better. Who else has seen the stories of overstaying wifebeaters who dont get deported, of the mangere refugee center, of achmed the terrorist zaoui and his ilk sucking up our resources.
I vote we use the land for an australian style migrant detention center to hold the human trash while we deny their refugee status and ship them back to wherever the fuck they came from.
Exactly. If that butt ugly, man hating, corrupt fucking bitch of a PM wants a job in the UN, she should piss off and stop forcing her ideology on us.
MisterD
21st March 2006, 14:11
I vote we use the land for an australian style migrant detention center to hold the human trash while we deny their refugee status and ship them back to wherever the fuck they came from.
Nah, the key is to put such a centre somewhere unpleasant to discourage people coming in the first place...how about Hamilton?
Flatcap
21st March 2006, 20:31
AHA - you fell into my wily trap. This "Auckland is the powerhouse of NZ" nonsence has been around for a while. It is repeated faithfully and non-critically by journalists until it has become an article of faith.
It isn't true. NZ's wealth comes from agriculture, fishing, forestry, and tourism. Of those only tourism involves Auckland. Our ability to import oil, cars, computers, machinery etc etc is only possible because we as a nation earn foreign exchange.
I'm not saying Auckland doesn't contribute but it is small-time compared to the provinces.
Tell me of anything essential which I can't get locally or directly from overseas. At present Auckland is the default because so many companies have moved head offices there. But in truth, those offices could be in Sydney or Christchurch for all the difference they make.
Nothing wrong with Auckland or the Kiwis who live there. It's a shame they are living an illusion. :D
Auckland is the powerhouse in terms of providing the taxes and levies that enable subsidies to the farmers and the fisheries to be given to Iwis. Auckland also supplies welfare to the forestry workers laid off as the forestry industry capitulates to cheap wood pulp from Asia.
What you can't get locally is enough tax dollars to pay for your highways and power generation
What the provences need to realise is that producing primary commodities is no longer a stable base for an economy.
As for moving head offices to Sydney - you are too correct. My company just moved a large number of roles there today
Winston001
21st March 2006, 22:06
Auckland is the powerhouse in terms of providing the taxes and levies that enable subsidies to the farmers and the fisheries to be given to Iwis.
What the provences need to realise is that producing primary commodities is no longer a stable base for an economy.
As for moving head offices to Sydney - you are too correct. My company just moved a large number of roles there today
Bummer - hope you are not affected.
Can I just point out that farmers do not receive subsidies. These were totally removed by the 4th Labour Government in 1985.
Actually I agree with you regarding commodities from the primary sector. But if you look at the Australian economy they are also buoyed up by their mineral wealth which is a primary commodity. The point is that commodities per se aren't bad.
In a perfect world we'd sell millions of pre-packaged lamb dinners to the world at a premium price instead of cuts of chilled meat. Still, we have advanced from the days of purely exporting frozen carcasess.
The one thing NZ does better than anyone is agricultural science. We need to use that knowledge as our point of difference. We don't have a lot of other options.
I'm teasing about Auckland but there is an unfortunate us-and-them feeling in NZ which isn't healthy in such a small country.
MisterD
22nd March 2006, 09:31
The one thing NZ does better than anyone is agricultural science. We need to use that knowledge as our point of difference. We don't have a lot of other options.
Fantastic, apples that are red on the inside....woo bleedin' hoo.
Marmoot
22nd March 2006, 09:51
they should make good crayfish, paua and oyster farm there....
I hope the prices would drop a bit from that....
But if that is impossible, they should use the land to make second harbour bridge landing complete with toll booths maybe?
Winston001
22nd March 2006, 13:56
Fantastic, apples that are red on the inside....woo bleedin' hoo.
Hadn't heard of that one but if your family had an orchard and you could sell such an apple for $1 each - and NZ was the only grower - you'd be very happy.
Don't knock science and technology. The computer you are using only exists because scientists battled away for years with Einsteins equations.
MisterD
22nd March 2006, 14:21
Don't knock science and technology. The computer you are using only exists because scientists battled away for years with Einsteins equations.
Who's knocking, I'm a physicist by training, and we all know that when you get right down to it everything is a branch of physics. What I have a problem with is frivolous use of science, who needs an apple that's red inside when all our waterways are turning blue-green because of our precious dairy industry filling them, literally, with shit.
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