Oil use on a CBR1000

[Finn]

It's a 05 done 6000 k's. Before going for a quick ride last night, I checked the oil and couldn't see any! The oil level was below the glass thingy. I must have put about a litre in it. I've heard litre bikes can go through oil but I was surprised how much. I hope I didn't do any damage to it.

Is this the norm? I have "topped" it up before but must have been remiss.

[DemonWolf]

Funny you should mention this Finn.. I did the exactly same thing to my
TL1000s the other day.. checked the oil.. and couldn't see anything on the glass level.. panicked abit as I had just recently erm.. blew some cobwebs outta the ol girl.. and promptly topped her up.. with over a litre. These past couple of days, she seems fine.. though prolly abit more a tick (suspect the tensioner).. was told its fine. heh. Thinking of taking her for a proper service as I don't really know what the hell I'm doing.

[SimJen]

Did you check it after 5 minutes or so? with the bike level?

[Finn]

Funny you should mention this Finn.. I did the exactly same thing to my
TL1000s the other day.. checked the oil.. and couldn't see anything on the glass level.. panicked abit as I had just recently erm.. blew some cobwebs outta the ol girl.. and promptly topped her up.. with over a litre. These past couple of days, she seems fine.. though prolly abit more a tick (suspect the tensioner).. was told its fine. heh. Thinking of taking her for a proper service as I don't really know what the hell I'm doing.

I guess the quality of oil these days is pretty good as long there is some in there. Besides you'd think the oil light would go on if it was dangerously low.

[Finn]

Did you check it after 5 minutes or so? with the bike level?

Yeah, I warmed it up first then let is settle for a few minutes before filling. Did the same once I topped it up.

[DemonWolf]

Yeah same here.. No warning light.. so thought it should be alright. But ya just never know!

Got the manual and followed the instructions.. warm bike up.. turn it off and wait a minute then check oil level. heh had to fill it up twice.

[SimJen]

Warning light is usually oil pressure best not to wait for that to come on ;)
My sis didn't bother topping her car up till the light came on.......when she told me, I checked it and there was nothing on the dipstick and it took over 2 litres to top up........who knows what damage it caused? Crazy girl.
Most bikes will use a bit when new, hopefully it will settle down once the bores and rings bed in.
Lots of high revs will use more.

[Lou Girardin]

Check it cold finn, first thing before you start it. You DID lift it off the side stand, didn't you?

[Cajun]

6000ks isn't it due for another service by that stage.?

I would be worried if it is drinking oil already. Are you running fully,semi or mineral oil still?

I know some bikes drink some brands of oil. eg an old bike of mine use to drink motul put anything else in it was fine. If you had recently changed the oil it could be this, or could be something else, but i would be keeping a close eye on it for the next 1000kms at least.

You have topped the oil up before, that seams strange. If you are topping oil up on a new bike. i could understand in the first few kms, less than 1500 but any more than that its going somewhere, is exhust smoke a bit more than it short, or smell a bit oily.


We have never needed to top up oil on any of the bikes we have brought between services, vtr1000f, bmw k1200rs, zx10r, gsxr600, hayabusa, bandit 600.

[Finn]

Check it cold finn, first thing before you start it. You DID lift it off the side stand, didn't you?

I checked it first when it was cold and couldn't see any oil. I then warmed it up, shut it off and waited - still no oil. I'll keep an eye on it over the weekend.

Perhaps you could check it for me tomorrow Lou? The glass level indicator is quite low so you'll have to bend right over...

[MD]

I checked the oil and couldn't see any! The oil level was below the glass thingy. I must have put about a litre in it. I've heard litre bikes can go through oil but I was surprised how much. I hope I didn't do any damage to it.

Is this the norm? I have "topped" it up before but must have been remiss.
Finn I did 22000km on my 04 CBR1000RR. I never had the level drop below the window but I did top it up a few times. Checked it before and after a track day and it would need maybe half a litre. A full litre is a fair amount to lose though? I notice the 636 seems to need more checking than the CBR so I reckon it's the norm. It's an indestructible Honda so you can't hurt it anyway.

[Finn]

I just checked it and it appears overfull. I'll wait till it cools down and drain some out. I was in a hurry this morning and put too much in.

[Sensei]

You have a problem if ya bike is using that much oil with those K's .

[WINJA]

You have a problem if ya bike is using that much oil with those K's .
SOUNDS LIKE IT WASNT RUN IN HARD ENOUGH

[Ixion]

Can happen. Over gentle running in glazes the bores, oil control rings never get a chance to do their stuff.

[Paulus]

Did you guys ever see the videos from the 2000 open bike shootout from Motorcycle Online? On the dyno run all the bikes let out large puffs of blue smoke as they were winding down from full throttle. I don't think I've ever owned a bike that hasn't used a little bit (and one that used a lot - RC30).

[WINJA]

Did you guys ever see the videos from the 2000 open bike shootout from Motorcycle Online? On the dyno run all the bikes let out large puffs of blue smoke as they were winding down from full throttle. I don't think I've ever owned a bike that hasn't used a little bit (and one that used a lot - RC30).
MAYBE A PUFF , BUT MY BIKE USES NOTHING NOTICEABLE BETWEEN CHANGES

[kiwifruit]

*checks oil*

[Finn]

SOUNDS LIKE IT WASNT RUN IN HARD ENOUGH

I don't follow the guidelines when running in new engines. I gave it who's your daddy after about 100 k's of varied riding.

The engine is cool now and I've marked where the oil level is. I'm going for a decent ride tomorrow and will check when I return.

I'll post the good or not so good news then.

If it has shit itself maybe this is my opportunity to get one of those fucking Suzuki's.

[WINJA]

I don't follow the guidelines when running in new engines. I gave it who's your daddy after about 100 k's of varied riding.

The engine is cool now and I've marked where the oil level is. I'm going for a decent ride tomorrow and will check when I return.

I'll post the good or not so good news then.

If it has shit itself maybe this is my opportunity to get one of those fucking Suzuki's.
YEAH GET THE K6 GSXR1000, THEY MAYBE COMMON BUT SO'S YOUR MISSES AND YOU LIKE HER DONT YOU

[SixPackBack]

Maybe you should get a fucken Suzuki Finn....after nearly 24k my sook never changes oil level, hardly darkens the oil!

[Paulus]

From the MCN messageboard:

My Blade has done just over 4000 miles and is currently in for a service, i have asked the dealer to look at the front as i get the same juddering under low speed breaking. I have also complained about the high oil consumption of 1 litre for 1500 miles?? Any body else had these probs.


Sounds like you haven't got the only one.

[Finn]

The oil I drained was darkish too so I'll do an oil / filter change next week.

[Finn]

Maybe you should get a fucken Suzuki Finn....after nearly 24k my sook never changes oil level, hardly darkens the oil!

Yeah but you didn't mention the 4 engine rebuilds did you?

[imdying]

The more I hear about CBR1000s, the less I like them. Seem to have too many problems for my liking. Pretty damn unusual for a Honda flagship model :(

[WINJA]

The more I hear about CBR1000s, the less I like them. Seem to have too many problems for my liking. Pretty damn unusual for a Honda flagship model :(
HONDA BUILD QUALITY IS A MYTH , I FIGURED THAT OUT WHEN I MADE THE MISTAKE OF BUYING A BRAND SPANKING NEW BLADE.
I THINK MOST JAP BIKES ARE SIMILAR THESE DAYS BUT IF I HAD TO CHOOSE I THINK THE YAMAHA R1 LOOKS LIKE THE BEST QUALITY FIT AND FINISH , PROLLY STILL WOULDNT BUY ONE

[Korumba]

The longer I leave my bike the more the oil drops in the sight glass...after one day its full,after 3 days it drops to about half and more than a week to 1/4..but it comes back after a run and stays full untill day 2 and starts to drop again!!!!

[Paulus]

The longer I leave my bike the more the oil drops in the sight glass...after one day its full,after 3 days it drops to about half and more than a week to 1/4..but it comes back after a run and stays full untill day 2 and starts to drop again!!!!

Did you put your engine back in upside down?

[Korumba]

sounds fucked up I know...But its what happens...happy to charge a small fee for people to come watch!!

[Sensei]

....after nearly 24k my sook never changes oil level, hardly darkens the oil![/QUOTE]


Dude mine has 40k on the clock doesn't move from full mark in 5000 - 6500 K oil changes . still is light brown when dropped out . People change from Mineral to quickly with new bikes mine didn't get Semi-Sin put into it till over 10,000ks .

[SixPackBack]

....after nearly 24k my sook never changes oil level, hardly darkens the oil!


Dude mine has 40k on the clock doesn't move from full mark in 5000 - 6500 K oil changes . still is light brown when dropped out . People change from Mineral to quickly with new bikes mine didn't get Semi-Sin put into it till over 10,000ks .[/quote]

Yup those GIXXERS are better than sex with a teenage prostitute on E [ course i dont know:confused: ]

[miSTa]

The longer I leave my bike the more the oil drops in the sight glass...after one day its full,after 3 days it drops to about half and more than a week to 1/4..but it comes back after a run and stays full untill day 2 and starts to drop again!!!!

Yes indeed, it's a pretty good party trick. :headbang: However, yours is slower than mine. :Pokey: ;)

[imdying]

Dunno much about Hondas build quality, but when the litre bikes are side by side, the Honda sure looks the 'most expensive'. Yummy details like that gorgeus swingarm, if the build quality isn't there, it sure doesn't look it.

[Finn]

Did the Coro loop today and just checked it. Fine, didn't use a drop. I must have miss-read the glass indicator and then overfilled it - dumbass.

Okay so what's the best oil to use?

[bugjuice]

do you stand the bike upright (pull it off the side stand) when you check? You know that glass indicator is for when the bike is effectively on a pit stand and level, not lent over on the kick stand...

[Finn]

do you stand the bike upright (pull it off the side stand) when you check? You know that glass indicator is for when the bike is effectively on a pit stand and level, not lent over on the kick stand...

If I did check it while it was on the sidestand I certainly wouldn't admit it here! Nah, I've got a pit stand. Don't know what I did wrong.

[Mr Skid]

Okay so what's the best oil to use?Castor bean oil.
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[Finn]

Castor bean oil.
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Doesn't that make it backfire?

[Toast]

Yeah, I warmed it up first then let is settle for a few minutes before filling. Did the same once I topped it up.

Warming the bike up should make the oil level in the sight glass drop, 'cos it's all circulating around instead of sitting down there.

Overfilling is a big, big no-no. In my younger days (ok I'm still in my younger days, but have learnt now), I overfilled my CBR250 by about 2 litres, thinking that 'cos the stuff just kept going in, it needed more...ooops, it wouldn't rev past 13k rpm no matter how hard you twisted the throttle, and was overheating like crazy...and was like this the whole way from Akl to Rotorua. stuck the bike on its side and drained the excess out of the same hole it went in to, and she ran like a dream for the next 20,000 kms...bullet proof little bikes.

[Lou Girardin]

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Okay so what's the best oil to use?

Mobil Racing 4T $67.00 inc for 4 litres. Cheapest synth bike oil around.
I think the car version is factory fill for Porches. :msn-wink:

[Blackbird]

I used to use Mobil 4T racing but stopped using it 2 years ago as a safety precaution. It might have been perfectly ok but Honda don't actually recommend the use of full synthetics according to the UK Blackbird boys. Something to do with the possibility of some sort of deposits forming in oil galleries but I can't add more than this. Honda recommend semi-synthetics so I switched to Motul 5100 and have stuck with it for nearly 3 years.

[Fishy]

I'm using Motul 5100 in mine. Finn you sure you weren't trying to check your oil while doing 220kph standups and on your cellphone?? it can be a bit distracting mate. Try it when the bike has stopped moving :yes:

[Finn]

I'm using Motul 5100 in mine. Finn you sure you weren't trying to check your oil while doing 220kph standups and on your cellphone?? it can be a bit distracting mate. Try it when the bike has stopped moving :yes:

Mate, you must have me confused some other KBer. Only this weekend did I manage to keep both feet on the pegs while cornering.

[Finn]

do you stand the bike upright (pull it off the side stand) when you check? You know that glass indicator is for when the bike is effectively on a pit stand and level, not lent over on the kick stand...

Hey Bugjuice, there's an orange 636 that parks in my building everyday. Let me know if you ever need any parts.

[Toast]

Hey Bugjuice, there's an orange 636 that parks in my building everyday. Let me know if you ever need any parts.

Where's your building? Not Grafton by chance?

[Finn]

Where's your building? Not Grafton by chance?

Oh fuck... yes. It's not your bike is it?

[bugjuice]

nah, that bike is owned by an asian guy last I saw. It's 1 of 3 in Auckland. Then mine, and then the other is owned by the chick who works at MotoMail.

That bike got the double bubble iridium screen, and still has the airbrake on the back? Mine doesn't have either, and the LED indicators (check me profile pic). Mine has a scratched up right side tho, if you could swap those, that'd be awesome ;)

[Finn]

nah, that bike is owned by an asian guy last I saw. It's 1 of 3 in Auckland. Then mine, and then the other is owned by the chick who works at MotoMail.

That bike got the double bubble iridium screen, and still has the airbrake on the back? Mine doesn't have either, and the LED indicators (check me profile pic). Mine has a scratched up right side tho, if you could swap those, that'd be awesome ;)

Woops, busted. It appears Toast works in my building. I've PM'd him to make sure it's him but it sounds like it is. I hope he realises I was joking about getting some parts for you.

[bugjuice]

lol
since when did Toast get a sexy3sexy?
first I heard of it!
is it the one with the iridium screen tho?

[Finn]

lol
since when did Toast get a sexy3sexy?
first I heard of it!

Okay, maybe it's not him. Perhaps he just knows who owns it.

[Finn]

lol
since when did Toast get a sexy3sexy?
first I heard of it!
is it the one with the iridium screen tho?

Yip, it's got an iridium screen and small led indicators.

[Toast]

Haha, yep...just a mate of mine, Chinese fulla. Got the iridium screen, looks damn fine imo. He's gotten rid of the air brake now Buggy, infact last I saw the whole plate was gone...but he's not a bad ass, his flat mate knocked it and it 'fell off' while he was riding...allegedly.

[Finn]

Haha, yep...just a mate of mine, Chinese fulla. Got the iridium screen, looks damn fine imo. He's gotten rid of the air brake now Buggy, infact last I saw the whole plate was gone...but he's not a bad ass, his flat mate knocked it and it 'fell off' while he was riding...allegedly.

He must have gone out and got a new plate today as there was one on this afternoon. The bike didn't look binned, just knocked like he said.

[bugjuice]

yeah, I've seen him a couple of times. Once at Mt Eden getting on the bike, but I was in the car then! d'oh..

pass on my regards, and I'll wave harder next time I pass him!

[Toast]

He must have gone out and got a new plate today as there was one on this afternoon. The bike didn't look binned, just knocked like he said.

Yeah, not binned, just knocked by the dude's scooter.

He's a bit of a blind bastard at times aye BJ, so don't be offended if he rolls on by and doesn't see you jumping up and down waving on your bike. This one time we were waiting for him at the Wellsford pub, about 6 bikes on the side of the road and he just rocked on past :eyepoke: Then again, one orange (with that light gold hue in it, so hot) sex3sex will probably draw more attention than that day's ensemble.

[kenis_sun]

Hey Bugjuice, there's an orange 636 that parks in my building everyday. Let me know if you ever need any parts.

Dude. Help urself. I am sure I can trade in one of ur car wheels for a brand new 6r. :sherlock:

[Mr Skid]

Dude. Help urself. I am sure I can trade in one of ur car wheels for a brand new 6r. :sherlock:Wondered when you were going to show your face.
Still stinking out the CS labs with your Alpinestars? :rofl:

[kenis_sun]

yeah, I've seen him a couple of times. Once at Mt Eden getting on the bike, but I was in the car then! d'oh..

pass on my regards, and I'll wave harder next time I pass him!


Cheers mate. When did u wave to me? I don't really recall... Where did u get ur front blinkers from... pretty neat...

[Toast]

Wondered when you were going to show your face.
Still stinking out the CS labs with your Alpinestars? :rofl:

You from Uni dude? What do you ride?

[kenis_sun]

Wondered when you were going to show your face.
Still stinking out the CS labs with your Alpinestars? :rofl:

Nah mate... I've been working for a while now (Unfortunately)... Only studying part time with ISOM Department now. Toasts got my Alpinestars (Borrowing). I've got myself a two piece berik. Red and black really hot. :D :sunny:

[Finn]

Dude. Help urself. I am sure I can trade in one of ur car wheels for a brand new 6r. :sherlock:

Tell me about it. I shreaded a tyre and bent a rim on a casual track day at Pukekohe. Cost a small fortune.

Come up to level 7 one day and say hi when you get a chance.

[kenis_sun]

He must have gone out and got a new plate today as there was one on this afternoon. The bike didn't look binned, just knocked like he said.

Yea mate. I went to get a new plate for $8.80... Not very keen on doing a runner when cops chase up simply bcoz I can't afford to pay for the fine. :oi-grr:

[kenis_sun]

Tell me about it. I shreaded a tyre and bent a rim on a casual track day at Pukekohe. Cost a small fortune.

Come up to level 7 one day and say hi when you get a chance.


Will do mate. What's up with all ur tenants moving out? We are thinking of moving out as well I think... (According to a colleague of mine). I like it here (still at work, but doing some study for uni)... Close to uni and my flat. :(

[Finn]

Will do mate. What's up with all ur tenants moving out? We are thinking of moving out as well I think... (According to a colleague of mine). I like it here (still at work, but doing some study for uni)... Close to uni and my flat. :(

I only lease the building with naming rights. Most of the Uni are moving out which is good for as we need another floor. Did you know there's a really cool rooftop deck with BBQ, chairs and tables? We've had some good parties up there. Everyone has access to it, you just have to get the key from our reception.

[SPman]

I think I've figured out why yr machine is using oil.....



You've rooted it!

[Finn]

I think I've figured out why yr machine is using oil.....



You've rooted it!

The damage was done to my car. I haven't tracked the bike...yet.

[SPman]

But.....

its a honda........

thats irrellevant...........oh shit...my spellings fucked......

:drinknsing:

[boomer]

But.....

its a honda........

thats irrellevant...........oh shit...my spellings fucked......

:drinknsing:


Oi, No! <_<

[kenis_sun]

I only lease the building with naming rights. Most of the Uni are moving out which is good for as we need another floor. Did you know there's a really cool rooftop deck with BBQ, chairs and tables? We've had some good parties up there. Everyone has access to it, you just have to get the key from our reception.

ummm... I didn't know about this roof deck... Not sure if anyone else at work know about it. I might come up for lunch one day :D When do u take ur bike to work?

[SPman]

ummm... I didn't know about this roof deck... Not sure if anyone else at work know about it. I might come up for lunch one day :D
Just DO It !!!!!

[popelli]

SOUNDS LIKE IT WASNT RUN IN HARD ENOUGH

from my experience never run a bike in, you will glaze the bores, also when reboring hone with the coarsest stone available

and for really good results run in with the cheapest crapiest oil you can get, modern oils are too good and rings will not bed on very slippery oil

just avoid full throttle use for until the first oil change

[bugjuice]

Cheers mate. When did u wave to me? I don't really recall... Where did u get ur front blinkers from... pretty neat...
hey!
yeah, I've waved once or twice I'm sure, but yonks ago, don't sweat it.. I've also had people wave at you, and then tell me off cos you didn't wave back!! pah!

anyway, the blinkers are from ODL (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/member.php?u=3187) on this site. They took a little bit of work, but I think they look the biz ;)
hope to catcha on a ride some time :woohoo: