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pyrocam
18th March 2006, 07:40
I was at Bar three last night, mates were outside, they call me up and a bloddy drunken motorbike drove INTO skycity, turned around then drove out.
and hit a girl.
and drove off
faggotmonkey.
crash harry
18th March 2006, 07:52
That's pretty dumb...
ManDownUnder
18th March 2006, 07:53
What an idiot...
Dumb thing to do and... I doubt he could find ANYWHERE with more surveillance cameras LMAO... I bet he's been done like a roast chicken
What kind of bike? Colour?
2much
18th March 2006, 09:51
In all seriousness I know I shouldn't laugh... but Bwahahahahahaha!!! what a fucken cocksucker!!!:killingme :killingme :killingme
Coyote
18th March 2006, 09:54
That's just ridiculous
Smorg
18th March 2006, 09:59
Lucky you were there to save the day :headbang:
What a penis though, if i had hit a girl i wouldve stopped not if i smashed
some vases though:shifty:
Hope you cop fellas give him a good bum fucking
Nicksta
18th March 2006, 10:00
Dude... that is really sad....
good to hear you picked the looser up D50.... yay!!
hope he gets all thats coming too him....
Colapop
18th March 2006, 10:30
Not to hijack this thread but will the clown really get what he deserves - probably not. Judges do not equal justice. Good work D. I hope you don't have to deal with the same f*ckwit in 2 weeks time.
pyrocam
18th March 2006, 10:35
yay you got him!
froggyfrenchman
18th March 2006, 10:41
only in Auckland.... Glad i managed to escape!
Mr Skid
18th March 2006, 10:45
a bloddy drunken motorbike drove INTO skycityThe motorbike was drunk?
Bike = CB400Doesn't Zapf (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/member.php?u=1374)own a CB400?
he entered Sky City Casino did a 180 burn outNo, can't be Zapf, it takes skill to do a 180 burn out.
Buster
18th March 2006, 10:59
What a loser! Total dickhead.
Bonez
18th March 2006, 12:07
I have just got home, i locked the guy up he was chased off the western motorway and led a pursuit through town that was called off.
No longer pursued he entered Sky City Casino did a 180 burn out, took off and smashed into some large terrecotta vases inside, ran over a girl and then took off onto Victoria Street and did some more burn outs.
All the passers by did nothing till and ex army guy decided enough was enough and tried to pull him off the bike on Victoria, couldnt get him but when he took off onto hobson his clutch had burnt out and he was pulled off his bike.
Locked up and opposed bail, was supposed to finish at 7 but i just got home. File is a inch thick already...:no:
First thing he said to my female partner "suck my cock im going to fucking sue you bitch"
Im off to sleep cause i got to be at work in 9 hours...:cry:
Bike = CB400
The Honda made him do it..................................:shit:
Patrick
18th March 2006, 12:40
I wonder if he is a KBer and is going to start a thread about how he has been hard done by, coz the coppers in Auckland picked on him...
Patrick
18th March 2006, 12:42
First thing he said to my female partner "suck my cock im going to fucking sue you bitch"
No dark alleyways for you and the army dude to give him the learn??? Partner should have asked him, "Does it came in grown up size, "little" boy?"
Sniper
18th March 2006, 13:34
Hahaha, that guy needs a medal......... not.
Mental Trousers
18th March 2006, 15:11
In all seriousness I know I shouldn't laugh... but Bwahahahahahaha!!! what a fucken cocksucker!!!:killingme :killingme :killingme
He soon will be when he gets to share a cell with a huge Maori guy named Buddha :motu:
Calo
18th March 2006, 18:38
He wasnt drunk it was drugs..
P, no doubt. :weird:
MidnightMike
18th March 2006, 18:44
What a psycho :wacko:
Of course it had to be a honda :whistle:
Calo
18th March 2006, 19:02
What a psycho :wacko:
Of course it had to be a honda :whistle:
I guess you don't meet the nicest people on a Honda. :rofl: :killingme
Brett
18th March 2006, 19:03
What a knob hopper! that is some pretty crazy riding!
Oakie
18th March 2006, 20:47
Yep P guy has a large drug abuse history.
And I ride a Honda!!
And I ride a Honda CB400.
Was the girl he hit OK?
Were the vases OK?
kickingzebra
18th March 2006, 20:54
Hmm, another P addict sticks it to the man, OK GBs might make for an OK cafe racer, but burnout machine?? what a bum. Should try and get him all paranoid about surveillance, and then offer him a roll of tin foil to stuff up his ass, and any other places he wants kept secret.
I wouldn't have thought of the sky tower as a symbol of authority?
Maybe he was pissed off cause he gambled away his money...
Hope the girl comes up OK.
Finn
18th March 2006, 21:01
I wouldn't have thought of the sky tower as a symbol of authority?
Maybe he was pissed off cause he gambled away his money...
Or it looked like a giant hyperdermic needle
SPman
18th March 2006, 22:23
Or it looked like a giant hyperdermic needle
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
pyrocam
18th March 2006, 22:30
Hope the girl comes up OK.
from what I gather she wasnt too bad mainly in shock and had a broken bracelet. everyone was looking at each other wondering if they should call an ambo
N4CR
18th March 2006, 22:40
Got a text from a mate saying he saw a bike get pursued down queen st or something with 4 po-po in tow. Sounds like the one.
Pretty crazy stuff...
kickingzebra
18th March 2006, 22:57
Or it looked like a giant hyperdermic needle
:rofl:
Excellent!! Were the navy boys in town that night? Cause if they were he could have been going to get loaded/shot up on sea men!!!
(Might have in the cells anyways!):kick: :Oi:
Broken bracelet I suppose ain't too bad considering!
Times like that, and other high speed drug chases, I am glad for all the cops, and Bike cops out there, Good stuff all, you have my respect!
JMemonic
19th March 2006, 00:42
Idiots like this make great a storage place for 9mmx19 rounds preferably inserted at high velocity
Aitch
19th March 2006, 09:26
I have just got home, i locked the guy up he was chased off the western motorway and led a pursuit through town that was called off.
No longer pursued he entered Sky City Casino did a 180 burn out, took off and smashed into some large terrecotta vases inside, ran over a girl and then took off onto Victoria Street and did some more burn outs.
All the passers by did nothing till and ex army guy decided enough was enough and tried to pull him off the bike on Victoria, couldnt get him but when he took off onto hobson his clutch had burnt out and he was pulled off his bike.
Locked up and opposed bail, was supposed to finish at 7 but i just got home. File is a inch thick already...:no:
First thing he said to my female partner "suck my cock im going to fucking sue you bitch"
Im off to sleep cause i got to be at work in 9 hours...:cry:
Bike = CB400
Wonder who Sue is????
But seriously folks...what a muppet! Lets hope he gets a beak who hates bikers!
GIXser
19th March 2006, 09:31
Hmmmmmm, he's a fagot for riding drunk, and being outta control, hitting the girl is very very bad, and i would personnaly cut of his balls for that-- however for running from the pigs he's a Hero---although in this circumstance,, shooting him his the only option
Madness
19th March 2006, 16:44
My riding turns to shit when I smoke P too!! I'm going to stick to marijuana.:doobey: :doobey: :doobey:
ZeroIndex
19th March 2006, 17:02
how much for that bike, or has it been returned to the rightful owner :D
Hope the girl heals up ok... damn wankers giving bikers a bad name, let alone motorists...
Lazy7
19th March 2006, 17:07
it would have been an interesting test of character to see what 'you' would have done if 'you' had been one of the people he did the 180 in front of at the casino.
i would like to have liked to have thought i would have been the type to do an american football style flying tackle at the dumbass and take him off his bike where i would have repeatedly kicked the shit out of him till the cops turned up.
realty is i probably would have been just as dumbfounded and imobolized as the rest of the surprised people in the foyer so BIG ups to the military dude for taking action. its a special breed of people to do that sort of thing on the spot.
closest i've come was chasing a little bastard out of a liquour store who stole a 40 of jack right in front of me. but being rather unfit i couldn't have caught him. and besides, there aren't much things faster on two legs than a %$#^ who's just stolen something ;-)
one hell of a story.
onearmedbandit
19th March 2006, 17:09
Wrong kind of bike to do a runner on, though a case of mistaken identity resulted in a chase with a GSXR1000 shortly after the incident which was - interesting
Please tell...
You can't just leave it at that.
Lazy7
19th March 2006, 17:13
Bike is pretty stuffed dude, been dropped on one side bit of damage, clutch burnt out.
Wrong kind of bike to do a runner on, though a case of mistaken identity resulted in a chase with a GSXR1000 shortly after the incident which was - interesting.
you dont use bikes to chase bikes? or does that make the danger even worse?
rudolph
19th March 2006, 17:14
Fuck thats pritty cool, shame on the chick who got hit:Police:
Lazy7
19th March 2006, 17:38
300 down great south road? hell. :shit: that would give you a fright if you were waiting in teh wendy's drive through...
on any other night he probably would have got away with it too. lucky the heli was out looking for bikes.
onearmedbandit
19th March 2006, 18:34
Holy shit, not a good look for us bikers eh? That'll make it to the media surely. Will (from your experience) he be charged with a specific speed or does that all go out the window over a certain thresehold. IE, dangerous driving, endangering the public, disqualified, etc or will they nail him with 2##km/h?
Lazy7
19th March 2006, 18:38
they can probably clock him using the helicopter but i doubt its admissable is it?
they have a hard enough time enforcing speed camera tickets. everybody is always bitching about the calibration.
i'm not saying i'm doubting the helicopters estimated speed. just saying he'd probably get off if they tried to pin it on him.
although standing next to his hot bike in full gear and saying he wasn't riding it wasn't the smartest defence he could have thought of.
running from the cops and getting caught is a bigger offence than getting stopped for speeding isn't it?
just remember Chris Rock saying "If the cops have to come and get you, they're bringing an ass whoopin with them!"
crashe
19th March 2006, 20:35
I havent heard anything in the media, we had two quite serious stabbings that night and they weren't in the paper as well. The media doesnt always pick up whats happening and sometimes they choose not to report it.
We had seven failing to stops in our district that night, normally the only reason the media will report about them is if they have crashed, or they think we are to blame or there are special circumstances.
It also depends on what Police Comms Centre sends out to the media as well.
I get emails from Police Comms Centre, with the same info that is sent to the media and the Police Comms Centre sent no info out about the Sky City story.
mikey
19th March 2006, 22:12
It is the Police's right pull over vehicles.
yeh what ever. love the attitude. why not solve real crime.
its my right as a very dedicated law abider to actually NOT PULL OVER to give you fukers time to work on crime that actually hurts peopel or something, not "crime" that generates new HP cars, which still cant keep up even when being driven looser then i ride
mikey
19th March 2006, 22:50
I do not have a radar fitted to my vehicle or any kind of speed detection equipment.
wow i didint no you got the same car everyday. so you allowed to smoke in it?
next time i get pulled over an given some fines by someone in a beat up cop car ill give them some shit about there car! how anyone could employ them to drive with a car thats in worse condition then mine........
ManDownUnder
20th March 2006, 09:43
I do normally use the same car each day as i prefer it, i get it from a lot of vehicles though and i so sometimes use another one. None of the vehicles i get my pool from have detection equipment.
Our vehicles are not as new as the traffic ones but they are still perfectly useable, i dont understand what your point is really..?
I think Mikey's just practicing his oxygen consumption and looking for someone to share the experience...
Patrick
20th March 2006, 09:48
Mikey strikes again... "catch real crims..." So what does he think a "P" head on a stolen bike is?
Can't help but wonder what Mikey will do if his bike was ever to be stolen. Surely he wouldn't think of calling the Police? Surely not...
As for the 300kmph dude... Eagle has video on board doesn't it? Who needs speed detection equipment if the chopper is flying at 300kmph and struggling to keep up, capturing it all on video for the judge to see...including pulling into his own garage etc etc...dumbass...
Lucky some drunk driver didn't pull out in front of him... but guess who would get the blame though? Not him, not the drunk driver....
Grahameeboy
20th March 2006, 09:52
I do normally use the same car each day as i prefer it, i get it from a lot of vehicles though and i so sometimes use another one. None of the vehicles i get my pool from have detection equipment.
Our vehicles are not as new as the traffic ones but they are still perfectly useable, i dont understand what your point is really..?
Rare for me to say this but Mikey is just being a DICKhead......:mega:
This prooves it.......I expect abuse from Mikey but no probs.
Date of Birth:
16th October
What bike do you ride:BAMBI
Biography:hooliganish mullet
Location:
Wellington
Interests:surfing
Occupation:grass nazi
Gender:
Male
Residence in NZ:Wellington - Lower Hutt City
scumdog
20th March 2006, 10:12
Rare for me to say this but Mikey is just being a DICKhead......:mega:
This prooves it.......I expect abuse from Mikey but no probs.
Date of Birth:
16th October
What bike do you ride:BAMBI
Biography:hooliganish mullet
Location:
Wellington
Interests:surfing
Occupation:grass nazi
Gender:
Male
Residence in NZ:Wellington - Lower Hutt City
Hey, now THERE'S a resume' to be proud of!!
But seriously, I bet he's making a concerted effort to look so bad - nobody can be THAT bad naturally, can they? can they?:confused:
scumdog
20th March 2006, 10:14
wow i didint no you got the same car everyday. so you allowed to smoke in it?
next time i get pulled over an given some fines by someone in a beat up cop car ill give them some shit about there car! how anyone could employ them to drive with a car thats in worse condition then mine........
mikey, mikey mikey, the spelling and grammar police are going to have coniptions when they read (or TRY to) and decode that lot.
Grahameeboy
20th March 2006, 10:19
But seriously, I bet he's making a concerted effort to look so bad - nobody can be THAT bad naturally, can they? can they?:confused:
Nah I think he finds it easy................:brick:
Patrick
20th March 2006, 10:30
I see he got rid of his year of birth...still only 19, isn't it? And such a wise and worldly one....not....:tugger:
Grahameeboy
20th March 2006, 10:33
I see he got rid of his year of birth...still only 19, isn't it? And such a wise and worldly one....not....:tugger:
and strangely quiet now.................wait for it:whistle:
Lou Girardin
20th March 2006, 10:54
I wonder if he is a KBer and is going to start a thread about how he has been hard done by, coz the coppers in Auckland picked on him...
If you really want me to................................
mikey
20th March 2006, 10:58
and strangely quiet now.................wait for it:whistle:
sorry was sleeping
i dont understand what your point is really..?
oh sorry, forgot to explain it. hate it how people dont read what ive wrote an dont understand what i was thinking, or what i wanted them to understand.
someone should come up wti hthis gizmo thing you put on your head an it sends ideas fro myour head into computers. not words an letters.
my point is that
go an look in any police yard.
there are a fuked up police cars.
been involved in "accidents" or something
if it was a private business, you wouldnt have a job if you kept crashing cars in your bosses fleet.
"accidents" show poor driving, or so im told.
cops do a lot of driving.
maybe not the ideal career path for some
get it?
Lou Girardin
20th March 2006, 10:59
Clocked at just under 300 km/hr on green lane.
.
300?
How was that checked?
Did someone misplace a digit?
scumdog
20th March 2006, 11:02
sorry was sleeping
oh sorry, forgot to explain it. hate it how people dont read what ive wrote an dont understand what i was thinking, or what i wanted them to understand.
someone should come up wti hthis gizmo thing you put on your head an it sends ideas fro myour head into computers. not words an letters.
my point is that
go an look in any police yard.
there are a fuked up police cars.
been involved in "accidents" or something
if it was a private business, you wouldnt have a job if you kept crashing cars in your bosses fleet.
"accidents" show poor driving, or so im told.
cops do a lot of driving.
maybe not the ideal career path for some
get it?
See post #61
Grahameeboy
20th March 2006, 11:14
sorry was sleeping
let us know when you wake up...............
In The Breeze
20th March 2006, 11:28
let us know when you wake up...............
Does he have to? All the posts Ive been bothered to read of his are straight out bullshit.
Grahameeboy
20th March 2006, 11:36
Does he have to? All the posts Ive been bothered to read of his are straight out bullshit.
Aha....he is always asleep and only thinks he is posting on KB......I say let him have his illusions......
scumdog
20th March 2006, 11:36
Does he have to? All the posts Ive been bothered to read of his are straight out bullshit.
But they would be SO much better if he did wake up.....:wait:
imdying
20th March 2006, 11:42
I don't accept that you believe what you're saying mikey, noone could be that naieve. What exactly do you think cops do in their cars? If you did their job, you'd be pranging them too... On the other hand, I've seen them do some brutal shite, like jump traffic islands in poor old falcon panel van K9 units. I still reckon the dogs loooove the sirens, they know they're about to get a run :lol:
Grahameeboy
20th March 2006, 11:47
But they would be SO much better if he did wake up.....:wait:
That was the subtle point I made.......keep up Scumdog........slow pace of Inverslowville getting ta ya eh now the cold nights coming....
scumdog
20th March 2006, 11:51
That was the subtle point I made.......keep up Scumdog........slow pace of Inverslowville getting ta ya eh now the cold nights coming....
Hmm, well I was being sarkarstic - if his last post was his last post I'd not even notice, the content of 99% of them is of dubious value except as a sad example of a wasted education....
Grahameeboy
20th March 2006, 11:58
Hmm, well I was being sarkarstic - if his last post was his last post I'd not even notice, the content of 99% of them is of dubious value except as a sad example of a wasted education....
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
buellbabe
20th March 2006, 12:10
Well getting back to the original post and susequent details provided by resident copper... Jeez! Sounds like my EX! Yikes! Heard he was in town...:2guns: Big thumbs up to the cops for getting the arsehole, hope he does some decent time... yeah right... It must be really frustrating for police to make arrests and then the F**kwits are out on the streets again in a couple of months...
Grahameeboy
20th March 2006, 12:15
Well getting back to the original post and susequent details provided by resident copper... Jeez! Sounds like my EX! Yikes! Heard he was in town...:2guns: Big thumbs up to the cops for getting the arsehole, hope he does some decent time... yeah right... It must be really frustrating for police to make arrests and then the F**kwits are out on the streets again in a couple of months...
Didn't you bury that one though.......
ManDownUnder
20th March 2006, 12:20
Well getting back to the original post and susequent details provided by resident copper... Jeez! Sounds like my EX! Yikes! Heard he was in town...:2guns: Big thumbs up to the cops for getting the arsehole, hope he does some decent time... yeah right... It must be really frustrating for police to make arrests and then the F**kwits are out on the streets again in a couple of months...
What we need is a "P" scare... i.e. put the word out there's P been made, but one of the "chemists" didn't know what they were doing and there's been a couple of PAINFUL deaths where the user simply swelled up, multiple organ failure and slowly suffocated.
mikey
20th March 2006, 12:42
What we need is a "P" scare... i.e. put the word out there's P been made, but one of the "chemists" didn't know what they were doing and there's been a couple of PAINFUL deaths where the user simply swelled up, multiple organ failure and slowly suffocated.
yeh great idea.
an how about another story saying that this guy was speeding at 111kmh an spontaneuosly combusted
an this guy that broke into your hosue to steal your tv got eaten by the tv
an the chic that stole your car got electrocuted by the screw driver she used on your ignition.
an the guy that poaches puau got eaten by a shark.
wow its working. i feel crime has dropped by 77.23% already
keep this up an all illegal stuff will be stopped by lunch
scumdog
20th March 2006, 12:48
yeh great idea.
an how about another story saying that this guy was speeding at 111kmh an spontaneuosly combusted
an this guy that broke into your hosue to steal your tv got eaten by the tv
an the chic that stole your car got electrocuted by the screw driver she used on your ignition.
an the guy that poaches puau got eaten by a shark.
wow its working. i feel crime has dropped by 77.23% already
keep this up an all illegal stuff will be stopped by lunch
Another gem brought to us my mikey....and the spelling is waaay better too!
(but still has a way to go so don't get all swole-headed mikey)
Paul in NZ
20th March 2006, 12:52
yeh great idea.
an how about another story saying that this guy was speeding at 111kmh an spontaneuosly combusted
an this guy that broke into your hosue to steal your tv got eaten by the tv
an the chic that stole your car got electrocuted by the screw driver she used on your ignition.
an the guy that poaches puau got eaten by a shark.
wow its working. i feel crime has dropped by 77.23% already
keep this up an all illegal stuff will be stopped by lunch
Well you need to be careful.......
I heard some guy that trolls on the internet got eaten by a real troll on the internet!! No really it's true, my brother knows the guys cousins hairdresser.
imdying
20th March 2006, 13:02
Better idea, lets cook up a batch of P that actually does do those things. Rid ourselves of the scum of the earth and make some money :)
scumdog
20th March 2006, 13:04
Better idea, lets cook up a batch of P that actually does do those things. Rid ourselves of the scum of the earth and make some money :)
But a successful business depends on repeat customers - or so I'm told.
imdying
20th March 2006, 13:11
Maybe the government will subsidise me since I'm doing them a favour?
Paul in NZ
20th March 2006, 16:27
But a successful business depends on repeat customers - or so I'm told.
Your business must be booming then...
surfchick
20th March 2006, 16:30
I wonder if he is a KBer and is going to start a thread about how he has been hard done by, coz the coppers in Auckland picked on him...
baha :rofl:
what a sad arse.. allllkeeehhhhoolll bad for dexterity...grrr
Patrick
20th March 2006, 18:11
Mikey strikes back with a red rep... Ooooooohhhhhhh:weep: :whocares:
And for post #58 too... I thought post 63 was more likely to invite red rep from the :tugger: ...
Guess I hurt his feelings...
Oh... "Mikey," mummys calling, dinner is ready and she needs to put your bib on coz you're dribbling....again...
Lazy7
20th March 2006, 18:17
Update patty, my senior is getting a copy of the pursuit with the second bike (the gsx). Aparently it is amazing so i cant wait to see it.
He nearly got taken out 3 times when he was doing an estimated speed of 200..
whats the deal with releasing this stuff to us the public? your not going to get in teh shit are you? cause i would be pissed off if you stopped telling us stories. its great!
Lazy7
20th March 2006, 19:27
No name's no problems. Its just the circumstances, I cant realease the chase video onto here unfortunatley as that is police property.
haha! just do a Paris Hilton and "leak" it. will make ya famous! :shifty:
Jinx3d
20th March 2006, 20:36
Dunno why you fucking pansies are so down on mikey.
His point is not irrelevant, even if it may not be elequently expressed.
Sure we rely on our police force to protect us from e-jits like the git at sky tower.
But what are traffic doing? Every time I get a speding ticket, its doing 10 kay over on a deserted 4 lane street at 7 in the morning. Just absentminded. Or ticketing you in a passing lane when you finally get a chance to pass the van thats been doing 70 in a hundred zone and has a que of 200 people behind. I ask you - is 125 really unreasonable in a passing lane???
They should get the fuck out and get these arse wipes that pour oil on the road from midnight to 3 am every friday and saturday night.
Basically, it's much easier to ticket mum and dad, joe average on his weekend, than try and catch the dangerous bastards, and that doesnt worry traffic one whit.
And puh-lease, was he doing 300 on greenlane? I doubt Rossi could get to 300 on a production sportbike on green lane. Estimated no doubt by traffic.
spudchucka
20th March 2006, 20:41
Strangely enough the criminals, the ones you want us to catch, all drive cars and ride bikes, just like you lot do.
Jinx3d
20th March 2006, 20:43
Here is what Tony Marks has to say about getting a Hyabusa to 189 mph (302 kmh)
"Testing the 2000 Suzuki Hayabusa last summer, I learned a lot of things about traveling at 189mph. At least four miles of straight, visible, empty road is a necessity. It helps that road is flat and of good quality because large undulations that you'd never otherwise notice, are transformed into launch ramps at high speeds.
You also have to tuck in tight. Not so much your elbows, since they're already pointing rearward, but helmet and legs. I nearly broke my neck by sitting up at 140 while coasting down from some insane speed"
And this guy did it on greenlane? Gullible dicks.:finger:
spudchucka
20th March 2006, 20:48
Regardless of whether it was 300, 290 or 240, the guy was being a 100% dickwhacker. Fuck him!
Jinx3d
20th March 2006, 20:54
Strangely enough the criminals, the ones you want us to catch, all drive cars and ride bikes, just like you lot do.
What, so if criminals drive cars and motorcycles, your primary method of containing them by handing tickets to them for a hundred bucks.
Sweet, we'll revenue them to death with speed cameras, ambigous speed signage and bizzare new traffic laws that we wont tell anyone about.
Please explain to me, how the no seatbelt ticket you gave my dad (on a pension) when he got back in his car and shifted it 6 feet to a carkpark with some money left on it made us all safer?
Go on. Waiting You cant, cos you're total fucking losers.
Jinx3d
20th March 2006, 21:00
I will end up working a 80 hour week this week. If you think its so easy come and join up and see if you can hack the no overtime pay to catch criminals.
I agree, I know the inside story as I have relatives in Police force.
This rant is purely reserved for traffic. Perhaps, not traffic, but the crap managment behind traffic that makes the best officer, the one that tickets the most pensioners.
Okay. Apologies to anyone that reads this that is in the police, or traffic and isnt a "I-dont-care-I-just-gather-the-revenue" variety.
pritch
20th March 2006, 21:01
You cant, cos you're total fucking losers.
I do appreciate a constructive contribution.
SPman
20th March 2006, 21:16
A stock GSXR1000 can get to 299 indicated on the back straight at Puke with a good run out of Railway, How long is that? 1200 m? Greenlane road - quite feasible!
Not very bright, but thats not in dispute!
mikey
20th March 2006, 21:22
Strangely enough the criminals, the ones you want us to catch, all drive cars and ride bikes, just like you lot do.
nah your wrong. they dont all drive cars. but whats the point arguing wit ha cop.
what personal gain do you get for sticking your policeman shit down everyones throat, quoting every law you find to justify giving tickets/ arresting people.
your almost as bad as zed. but with police stuff, not bibles
surely there is a www.policeman-who-used-to-ride-a-bike-before-he-had-a-family-an-got-poor-forums.com website. you guys could all vent about the littel wankers in there cars who were rude to you when you gave them 10000 dollar tickets you gave them last night, or the ones that biffed bottles at your bacon wagons when you broke up a party an arrested kids for the sake of it. or the ones that called lawyers after you smacked them round some an had to go to court an lie through the same mouth to a judge, that you come on here an spout cop law an expect ot be believed.
theres heaps of shit for you to fill zigabytes of space up with, go make your own forum, sell some advertising on it to make a few dollars as well. pig salaray aint much. might be able to get yourself a new bike.
the day you come down an start arresting people who live down the broncs, real threats to society, not just drive past is the day ill show some respect. til then.
SLAP THOSE FINES ON MY TAB PIG. WELL GOT TO CATCH ME FIRST
spudchucka
20th March 2006, 21:42
What, so if criminals drive cars and motorcycles, your primary method of containing them by handing tickets to them for a hundred bucks.
Sweet, we'll revenue them to death with speed cameras, ambigous speed signage and bizzare new traffic laws that we wont tell anyone about.
Please explain to me, how the no seatbelt ticket you gave my dad (on a pension) when he got back in his car and shifted it 6 feet to a carkpark with some money left on it made us all safer?
Go on. Waiting You cant, cos you're total fucking losers.
I didn't give your dad a ticket and I don't care that he got one. He's been around long enough to know that you have to wear it.
Crims use the roads, cops give them tickets, crims get disqualified, cops lock them up, cops take their POS cars off them, cops find stolen gear and drugs in their cars when they stop them, cops don't give a toss what clowns like you think!
Not a primary method, just one of many tools of the trade.
pyrocam
20th March 2006, 21:51
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Stevo
20th March 2006, 23:56
your almost as bad as zed. but with police stuff, not bibles
Isn't that a bit rough? Zed has never pushed anything onto me or anyone I know.
I think Spudchucka needs a chill pill..................... to me he is illustrating the attitude of some police. Funny how SD and D50 have made it through this thread taking all with a grain of salt, etc, yet Spud comes on and starts throwing toys:bash: . Furthermore it even sounds like D50 had a worse day!
spudchucka
21st March 2006, 06:08
I think Spudchucka needs a chill pill..................... to me he is illustrating the attitude of some police.
:shake: :shake: :shake: :shake: :shake: :shake: :shake: :shake: :shake: :shake: :
Lou Girardin
21st March 2006, 08:22
What we need is a "P" scare... i.e. put the word out there's P been made, but one of the "chemists" didn't know what they were doing and there's been a couple of PAINFUL deaths where the user simply swelled up, multiple organ failure and slowly suffocated.
You mean like the 'paraquat in the dope' scare of the 70's?
That worked:bs:
Lou Girardin
21st March 2006, 08:26
Please explain to me, how the no seatbelt ticket you gave my dad (on a pension) when he got back in his car and shifted it 6 feet to a carkpark with some money left on it made us all safer?
I guess he COULD have collided with the meter.:laugh:
PS. There is no way you could reach 300 k's on Greenlane Rd and live longer than 10 seconds. I think this cop needs retraining on laser usage. Or was it an "estimate", based on his years of experience seeing vehicles travelling at 250 plus k's?
Grahameeboy
21st March 2006, 08:26
Mikey I will pray for you................
Grahameeboy
21st March 2006, 08:32
Get off this Police shit stuff guys...they are doing their job. We all have targets at work and if they just gave out more warnings or just did nothing and they would stand out come review time and this affects their livelihoods.
Yes , like all jobs there are dickheads so why are you so niave to expect that all Police Officers should be 100% perfect when there are site members who do not fit that attitude.
We should all look at ourselves before we judge others.....
Sorry for rant.
Lou Girardin
21st March 2006, 16:04
If you're going to enforce pissant laws with pedantic zeal, you will get bagged for it.
And because they are in a position of power, they have to maintain higher standards than the rest of society. Not engaging in gangbangs with 18 year old girls is a good start.
Finn
21st March 2006, 16:09
Not engaging in gangbangs with 18 year old girls is a good start.
No Lou, that was a PR strategy by the recruitment office to get more applicants.
Grahameeboy
21st March 2006, 16:10
If you're going to enforce pissant laws with pedantic zeal, you will get bagged for it.
And because they are in a position of power, they have to maintain higher standards than the rest of society. Not engaging in gangbangs with 18 year old girls is a good start.
Reading this , I actually feel sorry for you Lou......................I will pray for you.
Grahameeboy
21st March 2006, 16:15
No Lou, that was a PR strategy by the recruitment office to get more applicants.
Don't encourage him...........ya know he is self motivated......or is that just a flowery word for 'W!@#ker':corn:
Lou Girardin
21st March 2006, 17:20
Reading this , I actually feel sorry for you Lou......................I will pray for you.
I actually feel sorry for Louise Nicholas. Why don't you save that prayer for her.
Stevo
22nd March 2006, 00:39
I didn't give your dad a ticket and I don't care that he got one.
This is what I was referring to.
A rather carefree attitude when it comes to handing out tickets, to anyone and everyone, and not really giving a f*ck!
Rightly or wrongly, I believe when the cop goes back to his car to check the licence details etc with base, perhaps he/she should ask if the driver in question has had a ticket in the last 10-15 years. If the answer is no, and the infringement is minor, then just give them a warning. THEN all the citizens who have been so well behaved for most of their driving lives won't be so horribly offended with petty policing.
For instance my father got a ticket 18months ago for 112kms/h, (his first ticket since he was 21 (some time ago now) and made to feel like a criminal.
Unfortunately the above wouldn't help me any, but the next generation of New Zealanders is just going to grow old living with demerits, periodically. But at least the current older generation could be shown a little respect.
Do you know what respect is Spudchucka? Show some, and hell one day ya might get some. I wise fella once told me "what goes around comes around".
Stevo
22nd March 2006, 00:50
If what she is saying happened it is disgusting and repulsive and those men should never have worn the uniform.
True. I agree none of us are perfect, least of all me. But unlike the Auditor General these guys (if indeed guilty) can't just say it was an error in judgement. Time will tell. Not the kind of publicity NZ Police want though. Worst job in this country must be the Chief of :Police: .
spudchucka
22nd March 2006, 09:35
This is what I was referring to.
A rather carefree attitude when it comes to handing out tickets, to anyone and everyone, and not really giving a f*ck!
Not At all. I warn more speeders than I give tickets to, I give compliance on expired WOF, rego and drivers licences but I actively target any dangerous manner of driving and dangerous vehicles. However one area that I show no compassion at all on is the wearing of seatbelts.
If you aren't wearing it you get a ticket, I don't care who you are, what your driving record is or what your excuse is. I've seen too many broken bodies to care what you or anyone else thinks about it. I've lost count of the bodies I've had to clean up in the mortuary, trying to make them presentable to the relatives who have the grissly task of identifying their expired loved one.
Do you want to come along next time? Even better, would you like to come and witness the post mortem and see for yourself the internal damage done to fools who don't wear their seatbelts.
Rightly or wrongly, I believe when the cop goes back to his car to check the licence details etc with base, perhaps he/she should ask if the driver in question has had a ticket in the last 10-15 years. If the answer is no, and the infringement is minor, then just give them a warning. THEN all the citizens who have been so well behaved for most of their driving lives won't be so horribly offended with petty policing.
I do that now. Not 10 - 15 years back but as far as I'm concerned if they have demerits on their licence then they aren't learning from the previous experiences and they can keep collecting them till their licence gets removed.
If their licence is clean then 90% of the time they get a warning.
For instance my father got a ticket 18months ago for 112kms/h, (his first ticket since he was 21 (some time ago now) and made to feel like a criminal.
Again, it wasn't from me so don't give me grief about it. If it had been me I wouldn't have bothered puling him over.
Unfortunately the above wouldn't help me any, but the next generation of New Zealanders is just going to grow old living with demerits, periodically. But at least the current older generation could be shown a little respect.
Show respect - sure, no problem. Let off every driving offence because they are old - no way.
Do you know what respect is Spudchucka? Show some, and hell one day ya might get some.Know it well and dispense it liberally where its deserved.
I wise fella once told me "what goes around comes around".That guy has been a friend of mine for many years and he hasn't failed me yet.
Grahameeboy
22nd March 2006, 09:41
I actually feel sorry for Louise Nicholas. Why don't you save that prayer for her.
I would have a specific pray for you and every Sunday I say a pray for everyone.......that do ya......or I could feel sorry for myself like you do and pray for me too......so my prayer will be to help you see through things and spread a little more love...
Lou Girardin
22nd March 2006, 09:48
If what she is saying happened it is disgusting and repulsive and those men should never have worn the uniform.
I dont see how that is really related to this subject though apart from being a dig at Police.
Lou wernt you a traffic cop once? or is that a rumour?
About living longer than ten seconds..he nearly got taken out three times, i have now seen the video and all i can say is that its pretty amazing.
He had decided that him getting away was more important than anything else.
Whether it was rape or not, three adult cops (at least one with a partner and kids) took advantage of, and exploited an 18 year old girl. In a particularly disgusting manner as well. From a purely moral persppective, these guys weren't fit to wear the uniform, much less reach Asst Commissioner.
So my comment was directed at Grahameeboy, not your lot this time.
Because other people need his prayers more than me.
And yes, I was a MOT cop on Auck motorways for 7 years. 1977 - 1984.
That experience is part of why I am critical of this new style of traffic policing.
Grahameeboy
22nd March 2006, 10:04
[QUOTE=Lou Girardin]Whether it was rape or not, three adult cops (at least one with a partner and kids) took advantage of, and exploited an 18 year old girl. In a particularly disgusting manner as well. From a purely moral persppective, these guys weren't fit to wear the uniform, much less reach Asst Commissioner.
So my comment was directed at Grahameeboy, not your lot this time.
Because other people need his prayers more than me.
And yes, I was a MOT cop on Auck motorways for 7 years. 1977 - 1984.
That experience is part of why I am critical of this new style of traffic policing.QUOTE]
Hey I said I will pray for you.......but you will have to stand in line cause that is what happens to naughty boys.
22 years ago.......geeze....I know don't tell me it was different in those days......yawn....
Lou it is good that you have a focus I guess.....but come on focus on something more important....other than hammering the Police at EVERY opportunity.......
Putting all that aside, my beer treat soon eh?
Lias
22nd March 2006, 10:22
Whether it was rape or not, three adult cops (at least one with a partner and kids) took advantage of, and exploited an 18 year old girl. In a particularly disgusting manner as well. From a purely moral persppective, these guys weren't fit to wear the uniform, much less reach Asst Commissioner.
Bugger off Lou, thats just trying to force your (apparently somewhat narrow) moral viewpoint on others.. Personally I'm monogamous, but have no issues with people having 3somes, group sex, or whatever. My best mate and his missus are swingers and you wouldnt meet a nice couple.
As for her being 18 and them being in their 20's/30's, if your telling me you wouldnt have fucked a keen 18 year old at that age your either lying or a prude.
zeRax
22nd March 2006, 10:40
18's a bit old aint it :\?
zeRax
22nd March 2006, 11:29
let them die in my opinion, thou it sucks for any innocents, in a perfect world if someone knocked me off cause they were being stupid id slice them open with my gigantic sword that is far too big for me to hold, but it doesnt matter cause id have reached super sayian status :D
Lou Girardin
22nd March 2006, 15:02
Why are you so bitter against all police? i
If your unhappy with the way the police operates then i suggest you aim your thoughts against the government. Do you think cops get some kind of financial incentive to issue tickets? they dont. It is what the government instructs us to do.
The road toll has to come down though, it is ridiculous. Way too many people die on our road's.
I'm not bitter at all. I get on quite well with several cops. But I'll do as much as I can to make Pollies see the error of your ways. But as a cop you get to wear public opprobrium. Perhaps you guys should be lobbying the Police Association, as has been done in the UK, to force a change in strategy.
You can't believe that issueing tickets for 11 - 15 km/h over the limit, mainly during the day, is having any effect on death rates. In 6 years it's still hovering around the low to mid 400's. With all the tickets written it should be under 300 now.
Besides, the road toll doesn't really have to come down. LTNZ's target of 300 per year is just a meaningless number. We kill the appropriate number according to the condition of our roads, level of driver training and drivers acceptance of risk.
nadroj
22nd March 2006, 15:44
LTNZ's target of 300 per year is just a meaningless number. We kill the appropriate number according to the condition of our roads, level of driver training and drivers acceptance of risk.
How true...
spudchucka
22nd March 2006, 15:49
Perhaps you guys should be lobbying the Police Association, as has been done in the UK, to force a change in strategy.
http://www.nzpa.org.nz/
PDF versions of the police association news going back to Jan / Feb 2002 are available online for anyone to read.
Have a look through the letters section at the back of each issue.
Lou Girardin
22nd March 2006, 16:13
Actually Spud, being the knowledgeable tuber that you are. How many cops are in HP?
A news item the other night gave the number of cops as 7200 excluding HP.
Why would they want to hide HP numbers?
Paul in NZ
22nd March 2006, 17:14
Sadly. Lou kinda has a point on this one. (the sex case)
But, is it fair to expect every policeman or woman to be celebate in the chance that their sex lives come out into open court in the future? Sure this shows a shocking lack of commonsense, poor choices and low morals but then again, how many marriages has the stress of police work ripped apart?
Should we even be surprised at this case?
The real question is, was it rape? Thats awfully hard to decide but either way, several peoples careers are over and I have a funny feeling this is not ending here... Appeals, magazine stories.. Bloody hell!
Now the funny thing is, why can't the good things the Police do get the same coverage?
The media could package it up if they choose to but they have a mindset these days. I really dislike it!
Paul N
spudchucka
22nd March 2006, 17:34
Actually Spud, being the knowledgeable tuber that you are. How many cops are in HP?
A news item the other night gave the number of cops as 7200 excluding HP.
Why would they want to hide HP numbers?
Actually I wouldn't have a clue how many HP cops there are. I've never been asked that before, however I think there would be around 800 - 1000.
I think Marty did a stint in HP, he might be able to help you.
spudchucka
22nd March 2006, 17:37
Now the funny thing is, why can't the good things the Police do get the same coverage?
It simply doesn't work for the media the way all the scandal style stories do.
marty
22nd March 2006, 20:53
With all the tickets written it should be under 300 now.
obviously that comment is based on your tireless, published research into how enforcing compliance with road rules affects death rate/1000 people.
Madness
22nd March 2006, 20:56
The roads in this country are rubbish i agree but that is not the main reason for crashes, its poor driving, alcohol and mostly, speed.
Speed huh??? Fecking P-Heads again!!!:tugger:
Lou Girardin
23rd March 2006, 08:29
Who told you that? there is approx 7000 front line cops and that is everything from what i know.
There was a story on relative Police numbers compared to other countries. The figures supplied by NZ Police stated 7200 frontline Police excluding HP.
I'm curious as to how many HP there are and why they're excluded.
Could it be that HP resources are ring-fenced for traffic only?
Lou Girardin
23rd March 2006, 08:30
obviously that comment is based on your tireless, published research into how enforcing compliance with road rules affects death rate/1000 people.
It's probably as effective as LTNZ's research that completely ignores factors like vehicle safety, road improvements, improvements in medical care.
mikey
23rd March 2006, 09:27
If you aren't wearing it you get a ticket, I don't care who you are, what your driving record is or what your excuse is. I've seen too many broken bodies to care what you or anyone else thinks about it. I've lost count of the bodies I've had to clean up in the mortuary, trying to make them presentable to the relatives who have the grissly task of identifying their expired loved one.
it liberally where its deserved.
on that basis of personal gain in ticketing.
do you ticket people who are smoking/black/white/asian/jewish/young/got a hotter girlfriend/faster car/bike than you?
marty
23rd March 2006, 09:28
unfortunately lou, ltnz has the power to effect change. you just whinge.
spudchucka
23rd March 2006, 10:45
Could it be that HP resources are ring-fenced for traffic only?
They are ring fenced to traffic duties but they aren't so restricted that they can't respond to other emergencies requiring police attendance. However, even if they are first on the scene and apprehend the offender they usually won't take the prosecution file. That will be passed onto a GDB or CIB cop, which ever is appropriate, keeping the traffic unit on the street rather than stuck behind a computer generating shit loads of paper work.
Lou Girardin
23rd March 2006, 14:06
They are ring fenced to traffic duties but they aren't so restricted that they can't respond to other emergencies requiring police attendance. However, even if they are first on the scene and apprehend the offender they usually won't take the prosecution file. That will be passed onto a GDB or CIB cop, which ever is appropriate, keeping the traffic unit on the street rather than stuck behind a computer generating shit loads of paper work.
OK, that makes sense in a strange kind of way. But why exclude them? It smacks of trying to hide the true numbers.
I would have thought the Govt would want all possible cops included in the total.
marty
23rd March 2006, 14:11
it's probably because the true highway patrol numbers are actually quite low, considering the total police muster (less than 30 for the whole waikato - to cover 7 days/20 hours a day don't forget - that's like a police station the size of Huntly covering ALL the waikato!).
at any given time, there is only 6-10 hp cars on the road in the WHOLE of the waikato - from south of te kuiti, to meremere, to whitianga and whangamata.
the reality is that HP is really quite thin on the ground, lending more weight to if you're caught by a HP unit, you're just not paying attention!
spudchucka
23rd March 2006, 14:23
OK, that makes sense in a strange kind of way. But why exclude them? It smacks of trying to hide the true numbers.
I would have thought the Govt would want all possible cops included in the total.
I have no idea why but it seems that you always assume the worst case scenario???
spudchucka
23rd March 2006, 14:26
We are supposed to have 10 cops on the street in the city district during shift, we have 5 on my section.
We have two on my section and for the next four weeks its just me. Obviously we aint central Dorkland but we do still cover a huge geographical area. Also, our station is meant to have five STU, at the moment we have two.
spudchucka
23rd March 2006, 14:35
Yeah i mean we do see lots of action in auckland but the thing is we are not hours from backup, thats one thing that slightly unnerves me about down the line policing.
Yeah, rural policing is a different ball game. Thats why I always take Mr Glock & Mr Remmington out with me on night shifts.
naughtygirl
23rd March 2006, 14:50
LOL some drunks crack me up! was the girl ok?
loosebruce
23rd March 2006, 14:54
Fuck me, any thread that mentions POLICE just goes way outta control, some people need to grow the fuck up, not you mikey you aight by me, as for the point of this thread, shit there are some muppets out there, Dyna50 on ya for locking the knob up, the whole GSXR bizzo, dont quote me but Eagle's top speed is in the 240kph range (whatever it is in knots, Marty?) so it wouldn't keep up with a GSXR1000 in full flight, but GSXR has to go round corners, avoid traffic and w whole heap of shit that Eagle doesn't, i'm no fool, some might disagree with me there, but i'm not dumb enough to take on Eagle, i've been given the learn late one night when a 180kph wheelie with my headlight pointing skywards attracted Eagle, doh, took me a while to figure out what the hell the bright light was around me and then i did think, fuck thats a bright moon, why didn't i see that before, before i realized it was the chopper, i slowed and waved to them to say how fricken sorry i am, they were prolly waiting for me to pull another wheelie, but i didn't have my scanner on so i dont know, but i look up more than around the road for cop cars, the old commondore is not much match for the GSXR, eya yea the raido i know, but rule of the thumb is short and sweet and if it means camping out somewhere and coming back later for the bike it's better than a convoy of 5 cars after ya after half an hour of running around residental area's endangering a shit load more people at the same time. yea i run it's not best but i do have some rules for it, i've been caught and i take whats coming no two ways about it.
Not really sure what my point is to be honest :confused: but i highly doubt this guy got near 300kph on Gt South Rd, i think whoever claimed that he did was a cop caught up in the moment, a GSXR doesn't turn very quickly at that speed, and it doesn't stop very quickly from that speed, upto 240 odd yeah maybe.
Patrick
23rd March 2006, 14:59
300, 240... who cares? Well over 50 aint it... nearly taken out 3 times and for what...??? Rider didn't care for much so shouldn't be too worried about jail time/losing licence etc...
Blairos
23rd March 2006, 15:01
Well, this has certainly become an interesting thread - heres my $0.02c worth
1. The laws of this land are the laws - the boys & girls in Blue are tasked to uphold them - they are merely carrying what they are sworn to do - uphold the law.
2. Now we may or may not agree with the law - if you think it needs changing, dont moan at the enforcers - go to where these laws get dreamt up and put in place (i can hear you all roaring with laughter now...) the Government or your local MP. They all have email addresses - why dont you start sending them enough crap to fill their inboxes and get their attention?
3. I dont agree with some aspects of the law regarding traffic, and issuing of tickets in some circumstances, but these guys/gals are just the messengers - "shooting" the messenger doesnt change anything
4. The topic that started all this off was a success story that, IMHO, should have been reported - Good work guys, for catching the drug-filled idiot (and the 300 kay disqualified rider! :clap:
<ducking for cover now> ;)
loosebruce
23rd March 2006, 15:12
300, 240... who cares? Well over 50 aint it... nearly taken out 3 times and for what...??? Rider didn't care for much so shouldn't be too worried about jail time/losing licence etc...
Yea thats well ture, in the eyes of the judge it wouldn't make much diff what speed the rider was doing, the eagle video would be fucken cool too watch though, in a i like watching world's scariest police chases cool, not i condone his efforts cool.
marty
23rd March 2006, 17:28
loosebruce, that post made WAY too much sense.
and it's about 128kts, would be Vne in a squirrel.
scumdog
23rd March 2006, 17:52
We have two on my section and for the next four weeks its just me. Obviously we aint central Dorkland but we do still cover a huge geographical area. Also, our station is meant to have five STU, at the moment we have two.
Meant to have 3 gdb - got 2, meant to have 3 STU - got two
2 of 3 CIB types away on leave/courses.
2 outstations on long service leave
I cover area 45km X 140km solo fairlt frequently.
Yup, overpaid and overstaffed.
And love the job, :woohoo: you meet the nicest types (Can't speak for the workmates but:laugh: ).
EZAS
23rd March 2006, 20:13
Well heres my 2 cents worth :)
The guy did nothing wrong,
UNTILL
He hit the girl and showed no remorse by leaving darkies further up the road.
Being an idiot on the road, pulling burnouts, getting in high speed pursuits ..... yea yea ... thats just an average day, BUT causing physical damage to another person thats another story.
If someone else has to suffer for your enjoyment, (Having an idiot fly past at over 250kmh to disturb your peaceful 80kmh drive down the motorway DOES NOT COUNT) then hopefullly KARMA or a prison cell mate will come back to bite you in the ass.
The police have a job to, they get paid to do it. SO they have no right to bitch about how hard there job is OR moan about how they got no sleep because they were doing such a hard job.
:Playnice: I don't like most police that I've meet, I like less the criminals I've had to encounter. Leave me alone to ride/fly in peace :Playnice:
EZAS
23rd March 2006, 20:42
If we had that attitude of put up with it or bugger off there would be no cops or people in other hard working positions as there would be no hope of improving your career choice.
Yea .. You're so right, it's always better to be the boss than to work for one :)
I'd just prefer that if people had such bad issues with there jobs then leave, or try and actually push for better positions, better pay, better working conditions. Not to tell everyone and anyone how hard it is to be a cop, personally I don't find issueing grandmas doing 60k in a 50k a very hard job at all.
If you want to work with the scum of the country (ie police working with criminals all day everyday), I believe that a police officers impression and understanding of society would be flawed. "Suspecting the worst"
I respect (not like) policeman for there job and role in society cos its a job that I rate as high as a toilet cleaner.
scumdog
23rd March 2006, 21:30
Yea .. You're so right, it's always better to be the boss than to work for one :)
I'd just prefer that if people had such bad issues with there jobs then leave, or try and actually push for better positions, better pay, better working conditions. Not to tell everyone and anyone how hard it is to be a cop, personally I don't find issueing grandmas doing 60k in a 50k a very hard job at all.
If you want to work with the scum of the country (ie police working with criminals all day everyday), I believe that a police officers impression and understanding of society would be flawed. "Suspecting the worst"
I respect (not like) policeman for there job and role in society cos its a job that I rate as high as a toilet cleaner.
I never knew it was rated as high as a toilet cleaner!
The onlt reason I mention any negative aspects of my job is just to let people know "hey, it's not JUST issuing Grandmas tickets for doing 60 in a 50"
- as if I've ever done THAT)
"Suspecting the worst' - mate, sometimes it's what helps us to survive.
Merwood
23rd March 2006, 22:08
OMFG!!11oneeleven
CALL TEH CARE POLICE : NINE WHINE WHINE
............__@@@__
.....___//_____?___\_____
..../o---CARE-POLICE----@)
.../---( @ )====+===( @ )--/
scumdog
23rd March 2006, 22:22
OMFG!!11oneeleven
CALL TEH CARE POLICE : NINE WHINE WHINE
............__@@@__
.....___//_____?___\_____
..../o---CARE-POLICE----@)
.../---( @ )====+===( @ )--/
Seems a bit repetetive, a bit repetetive, a bit repetitive....
Do you have a rubber stamp of the above??
Toast
23rd March 2006, 22:38
The speed limit is 50k an hour, 65 is too fast though i do think that some areas in auckland should be a faster speed. The only problem is that if you want to set a speed limit higher say for example on tamaki drive, people will drive 10k over that so you do have to keep it at 50 k a hour.
Saying that people will just do 10 over and that makes it bad is bs. How about some of the industrial areas around Akl which are two lanes wide with few side roads and good vision...like around East Tamaki...set the speed limit to 70, watch them do the 80, and it's still pretty safe. The 10 over thing is a given.
The speed campaign does work despite what your saying, the road toll has come down substaintially over recent years. I do believe you are right in that currently it is over zealous and some of the assests could be used towards more general crime.
The roads in this country are rubbish i agree but that is not the main reason for crashes, its poor driving, alcohol and mostly, speed.
I'm glad that you can admit that the speed campaign is over zealous...but put a few statisticians in a room with the raw data on the road toll, and I can almost guarantee that you won't get a unanimous decision that the speed campaign works.
And how does handing out fines improve someone's use of vision, perceptive ability, car control, reading of the road conditions, distance judgement, reaction times, etc?
They say that speed is a factor in x% of crashes. There are many other factors, lack of skills probably covering most of them...so why only try to change the speed in future? Lou can answer that one, and I probably won't disagree...
Having said all that, please don't accuse me of hating cops. I don't. I've met some cunts, really small minded cunts. They are the minority though, and I wouldn't judge one that way until he proves himself so. I've got a heap of respect for your class of cop D50, dealing with the shit you do. Keep up the good work, I respect what you do, but don't use the fact that you deal with real shit to defend a limp, lazy, two-faced campaign on speed.
Finn
24th March 2006, 09:08
The association is pushing, they finally got us time and a half for working statutory holidays.
The Police were the only institution to challenge the law that time and a half must be paid to their employee's on public holidays. They lost but appealed, not because they thought they could win, but because the money set aside for the holiday pay was making good interest and they wanted to hang onto it as long as possible.
Even if i was on traffic i dont think there would be many grandmothers doing 60 in a 50, there are always idiots going way to fast in residential areas in circumstances where that cant totally control though.
Maybe that lets you understand what the mindset is of the movers and shakers who run us are like.
Fuck this really pisses me off. This hypocritial government forces it ideoligy onto the private sector and thinks they are exempt.
A coup is long overdue.
Swoop
24th March 2006, 09:24
I never knew it was rated as high as a toilet cleaner!
People should remember that toilet cleaners are top of the list of important people!
From past experience with employers, if the boss is away the place runs fine (often much better), HOWEVER if the toilet cleaner or the person who makes the tea is away all hell breaks loose!!!
:shit:
marty
24th March 2006, 10:10
i've always wondered about the sensibility of the tea maker and the toilet cleaner being the same person......
spudchucka
24th March 2006, 14:04
Fuck this really pisses me off. This hypocritial government forces it ideoligy onto the private sector and thinks they are exempt.
A coup is long overdue.
It was nothing to do with the Govt, it was purely the police delaying the inevitable for as long as possible. For what reason, who would know, presumably just to hang onto the $$$$ for as long as possible.
spudchucka
24th March 2006, 14:28
It was the interest spud, they money had already been drawn out and deposited, they wanted to hold onto the interest as long as possible.
I guess we all know that was what it was all about. Still, the back pay will be nice, when they eventually get around to coughing up.
Finn
24th March 2006, 15:22
It was nothing to do with the Govt, it was purely the police delaying the inevitable for as long as possible. For what reason, who would know, presumably just to hang onto the $$$$ for as long as possible.
Okay, but if the private sector tried that one on, we'd get hung.
spudchucka
25th March 2006, 03:42
Okay, but if the private sector tried that one on, we'd get hung.
The employer would be taken to the employment court, which is exactly what happened to the police and they lost. They began an appeal to the high court but the appeal was withdrawn once a suitable agreement was established between the police and the police association.
Stevo
25th March 2006, 11:08
Meant to have 3 gdb - got 2, meant to have 3 STU - got two
2 of 3 CIB types away on leave/courses.
2 outstations on long service leave
I cover area 45km X 140km solo fairlt frequently.
Yup, overpaid and overstaffed.
And love the job, :woohoo: you meet the nicest types (Can't speak for the workmates but:laugh: ).
:clap: Nice one! :dodge:
With police it is only a select few who wind the public up with petty actions, and stoopid judgement. School teachers are much worse. Some of the most immature and petty people I came across at secondary school were teachers. Not that some students were nearly as bad, but they are not setting the example. Dreading the day I have to go to secondary school for parent teacher interviews. Had a few very good teachers, but they seemed outnumbered by dipsticks. And we all know what dipsticks are good for!!!
Stevo
27th March 2006, 08:21
An email I got espescially for all the police out there. Thought Scumdog might enjoy this......
Good, Better, Best
GOOD
A Central Otago Traffic Patrol Cop watching for speeders, but wasn't getting many.
Then he discovered the problem a 12-year-old boy was standing up the road with a hand painted sign, which read "RADAR TRAP AHEAD."
The officer then found a young accomplice down the road with a sign reading "TIPS" and a bucket full of money.
(And we used to just sell lemonade!)
BETTER
A motorist was mailed a picture of his car speeding through an automated
radar post in Central Otago with a Fine of $160 included.
Being cute, he sent the police department a picture of $160
The police responded with another mailed photo of handcuffs.
BEST
A young woman was pulled over for speeding.
As a Central Otago Cop walked to her car window, flipping open his ticket
book, she said, "I bet you are going to sell me a ticket to the Central Otago Police Ball."
He replied, "Central OtagoPolice don't have balls."
There was a moment of silence while she smiled, and he realized what he'd just said.
He then closed his book, got back in his patrol car and left.
She was laughing too hard to start her car.
scumdog
27th March 2006, 09:02
Yeah, got it at work about a week or so ago. (I feel it has also appeared as "A California Traffic Cop..." etc. - sounds like it came from Readers Digest).
mikey
28th March 2006, 22:02
Can't help but wonder what Mikey will do if his bike was ever to be stolen. Surely he wouldn't think of calling the Police? Surely not...
nah fuck that,
my place got broken into in the weekend.
found out who did it in 47 minutes
he wouldnt come out of the place he was hiding at sunday night an i missed the motoGP waiting for him to come outside. very impolite.
ran into the cunt today......... literally, then exchanged pleasantries.....
if id goen down the police path,
i would of been told to go an report burglary,
fuk around at cop station, which smells,
talk to some officer who deosnt really give a fuck casue it wasnt his stuff stolen, waste some more treesf illing out paper work that wont get looked at again.an worst of all i'd have to ask people for help who work for an organiszation i despise. not something im doing in a hurry.
they would of done nothin
Stevo
29th March 2006, 08:02
Yeah, got it at work about a week or so ago. (I feel it has also appeared as "A California Traffic Cop..." etc. - sounds like it came from Readers Digest).
True. The whole selling lemonade thing gives it an American slant. Still I thought the one with the kids was amusing
Stevo
29th March 2006, 08:03
nah fuck that,
my place got broken into in the weekend.
found out who did it in 47 minutes
he wouldnt come out of the place he was hiding at sunday night an i missed the motoGP waiting for him to come outside. very impolite.
ran into the cunt today......... literally, then exchanged pleasantries.....
if id goen down the police path,
i would of been told to go an report burglary,
fuk around at cop station, which smells,
talk to some officer who deosnt really give a fuck casue it wasnt his stuff stolen, waste some more treesf illing out paper work that wont get looked at again.an worst of all i'd have to ask people for help who work for an organiszation i despise. not something im doing in a hurry.
they would of done nothin
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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