Radar Detectors, Whats best,

[Streetwise]

Hello all, Im interested in knowing what the most prefered rader detector is on the market today, Ive heard ther Valantine 1, But i dont own one and dont know, :ride:

[sAsLEX]

yeah the valentine is good but needs extra bits to hook up an ear piece

X50's come with an earphone jack and are popular amongst the speeders on here, mine went well till it went for a swim

[Streetwise]

bugger thats gotta suck,

[Jantar]

Escort X50 is among the top group of detectors, and you can either use an earpiece or build a screamer. See http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=16601&highlight=screamer

[Streetwise]

cheers for that. ill have a look,

[spudchucka]

Hello all, Im interested in knowing what the most prefered rader detector is on the market today,
Your eyes, ride with them open and you'll be fine.

[Streetwise]

well i guess thats not bad advice, But its nice to know whats around the corner,

[boomer]

i've got a valentine 1 and i'm sure its got an ear phone jack?! I've also got the H.A.R.D system but thats bye the bye.


Google is your friend.. "Radar detectors review"

[Streetwise]

whats the h.a.r.d system, not heard of that before

[sAsLEX]

whats the h.a.r.d system, not heard of that before

A little LED light that sits in your helmet that flashes in your vision when your radar picks something up, no wires just sits in the helmet and runs off batteries, has a sender unit on the bike you plug in to the radar

[scumdog]

A little LED light that sits in your helmet that flashes in your vision when your radar picks something up, no wires just sits in the helmet and runs off batteries, has a sender unit on the bike you plug in to the radar

Ask Dangerous about how it works - and about how he got a ticket despite having a h.a.r.d. system..:whistle: :lol: :rofl: :killingme :dodge:

[Quasievil]

Beltronices RX65 is the best at the moment, valentine 1 is definately over rated in my view very lacking in features and way over priced, I use a RX65 and Im astonished with its abilities, cost me $425 of Trade me. Radar Roy gave it 5 stars out of 5, check it out.

[Lou Girardin]

Your eyes, ride with them open and you'll be fine.

Yeah right Spud, Finn and I had our eyes peeled on Sunday, but the detectors 'saw' the cop before we did. Another $120 odd tax dollars saved.

BTW V1 doesn't have an earphone jack, but the optional audio adapter does.

[Streetwise]

Well i guess that answers my question, ONE THAT WORKS. mmmm ill go on trade me and have a look at the options available, cheers all for your info.

[madboy]

At the risk of teaching you how to suck eggs, don't believe that a good radar detector will solve your ticket problems. They detect radar (or laser). That's all they do. They don't detect cops who don't have their radars/lasers on (including any mufti's that you might pass on a backroad at a billion and a half miles an hour) Likewise they won't give you any warning before the cop 400m down the road whacks you with instant on radar or a laser gun.

In short, a radar detector will lessen the risk of you getting caught, but don't believe it's the be all and end all. It's merely one weapon in the armoury. The others are eyes for avoiding and a heavy right wrist for evading. Scanners help too. Jammers are another goodie too if you know the right people.

As far as detectors go, I've got a V1. I use it in the car (that I barely speed in anyway). Don't bother on the bike. It works well, but it wouldn't be my first choice if I was buying another one.

[spudchucka]

Yeah right Spud, Has always worked for me, 2 speeding tickets and one speed camera ticket in nearly 25 years of using the roads isn't too bad.

[marty]

i run a bell on the busa. good for travelling in traffic, but don't rely on it as toe to toe at 200m with a mufti, you're either fucked, or lucky.

[scumdog]

Has always worked for me, 2 speeding tickets and one speed camera ticket in nearly 25 years of using the roads isn't too bad.

One 'Digitector' ticket since 1971 is my record.

Never could see the need for a detector - and it would have done nothing to help me beat the ticket mentioned.

Each to their own.

[Streetwise]

Well i must say im lucky up till now as well, 17 Years no speeding tickets on a bike,

[spudchucka]

Well i must say im lucky up till now as well, 17 Years no speeding tickets on a bike,
Cool, you obviously have a fully functioning brain and the genetic background required to form a healthy and fully operational common sense gland.

[spudchucka]

One 'Digitector' ticket since 1971 is my record.

Never could see the need for a detector - and it would have done nothing to help me beat the ticket mentioned.

Each to their own.
Personally I can think of many things that I'd much rather spend $800 - $1000 on.

[Jonty]

The only reason I would want one is not so I can get out on the road and launch the bike into orbit. A radar for me is for the times when I am crusing along safely and without even knowing it your doing 115-120 and you get bloody pinged. I swear to to god I spend more time concentrating on my speedo and watching for cops that concentrating on my riding:oi-grr:

[Streetwise]

Yea thats true, Ive got alot riding on not getting tickets so it is worth spending some money to stop it, Nothing worse than a ticket for doing 60k in a 50k zone.

["D" FZ1]

Gday. I have a V1 and it works well on the bike and can be used in the car as well. I have got H.A.R.D. :niceone: which has a very bright LED light that flashes in your lid. They are expensive but so are F####N tickets.

[Streetwise]

so at this stage the v1 has the best results,

[Lou Girardin]

so at this stage the v1 has the best results,

You got it. It's stronger, easily upgraded and if it gives 10 metres less warning than a Bel, who cares? At least you'll know where the IRD branch office is.

[Sutage]

i dunno if anyone has said this but
i had a good convo with a guy in wootons about these
pretty much if u going say 15 over you can brake in time
if you going sayyyyyy 120(naughty huh?!) + by the time you pick it up(if u do) well they still gonna get u:P gonna feel pretty idiotic having a 900 dollar machine there when the cops still got u:P
if u get one just make sure it says NZ/AUS on it, if it doesnt dont get it !
but um i dunno if they are actually worth it, ive put a lot of thought in to it and have decided a screw driver to undo your plate if you really wanna go for it is the better option
could look into jammers? i dunno if they work too good tho

[Finn]

i dunno if anyone has said this but
i had a good convo with a guy in wootons about these
pretty much if u going say 15 over you can brake in time
if you going sayyyyyy 120(naughty huh?!) + by the time you pick it up(if u do) well they still gonna get u:P gonna feel pretty idiotic having a 900 dollar machine there when the cops still got u:P
if u get one just make sure it says NZ/AUS on it, if it doesnt dont get it !
but um i dunno if they are actually worth it, ive put a lot of thought in to it and have decided a screw driver to undo your plate if you really wanna go for it is the better option
could look into jammers? i dunno if they work too good tho

The guy in wootons junk shop is full of shit. That's why he works for wootons. He didn't meet the criteria for Kmart.

1) On open roads, I can sometimes pick up cops at least 2 k's away. 1 k away in front of you there could be a car so you could easily be doing over 200 k's and not get pinged. It all depends on circumstanses. If you're the only target on the road and the cop uses instant on, you're screwed. However, if the cop is using instant on targeting another vehicle and you pick up his signal then you should be fine.

2) There is only one model of the V1 made. There is no such thing as a NZ/Aus model. Where do you think the cops get their equipment from? No, wootens doesn't make them out the back of the shop.

3) Jammers only work on laser.

4) You could take your plate off but you would have to upgrade your bike first. 1988 250's aren't renowned for their evasion abilities.

The other good thing about a V1 is it would double the value of your bike.

[boomer]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Finn again.

[sAsLEX]

3) Jammers only work on laser.


poppy cock, I bet you I could make one, piece of piss just wouldnt be all that legal is all.

You are right though the retail ones you can purchase are all shit except for the Blinder and ones designed for laser.

[Finn]

poppy cock, I bet you I could make one, piece of piss just wouldnt be all that legal is all.


You could get a job at wootons.

[slopster]

I've got a valentine 1 with a hard system and to be honest it's very average. I usually sight the cops before the detector picks them up - I think most of them are using the instant on mode on the radar and not turning it on till your in their sights. Fortunately I'm not normally speeding on the roads where you normally see cops. It has saved me on a few memorable occasions. It picks up mobile speed cameras well but if you can't spot these you deserve a ticket for being so oblivious.

[sAsLEX]

You could get a job at wootons.

Please can I go down to the minimum wage! oh I cant wait am emailing them now :lol:

[Finn]

I've got a valentine 1 with a hard system and to be honest it's very average. I usually sight the cops before the detector picks them up - I think most of them are using the instant on mode on the radar and not turning it on till your in their sights. Fortunately I'm not normally speeding on the roads where you normally see cops. It has saved me on a few memorable occasions. It picks up mobile speed cameras well but if you can't spot these you deserve a ticket for being so oblivious.

You must have got one of those NZ/Aus models from wootons.

[slopster]

You must have got one of those NZ/Aus models from wootons.

No its the US version - they're all the same anyway just come out with different defaults but you can change these. On the plus side it does not false alarm at all. I have not had a single one.

[Lou Girardin]

The guy in wootons junk shop is full of shit. That's why he works for wootons. He didn't meet the criteria for Kmart.


4) You could take your plate off but you would have to upgrade your bike first. 1988 250's aren't renowned for their evasion abilities.

The other good thing about a V1 is it would double the value of your bike.

Ovulating again?:rofl:

[Lou Girardin]

poppy cock, I bet you I could make one, piece of piss just wouldnt be all that legal is all.



Some greater brains than ours having been trying to make one to work on Ka band. Haven't seen it for sale yet.

[Lou Girardin]

No its the US version - they're all the same anyway just come out with different defaults but you can change these. On the plus side it does not false alarm at all. I have not had a single one.

Is it turned on?
I've had over 5 k's warning on Canal East Rd. That's extreme, but it shows what's possible.

[sAsLEX]

Some greater brains than ours having been trying to make one to work on Ka band. Haven't seen it for sale yet.

Who is? And what you saying about my brain! Its just that it would be illegal is the real thing making it hard to sell.

[Finn]

Ovulating again?:rofl:

No, not this time. I think my overy is acting up.

[Drunken Monkey]

Some greater brains than ours having been trying to make one to work on Ka band. Haven't seen it for sale yet.

Greater brains? Piffle. All sAsLEX is saying is that one could be made quite easily, which is true - technology is already there - the problem is its all about the wattage. You can't jam a 5Watt radar with a 1Watt jamming signal. The only thing stopping people selling 50Watt jammers legally is the communications act.

(wattage figures are examples only!)

[Lou Girardin]

I know of someone very technologically capable who's investigating Ka jammers. Legal or not, acieving the power output is easy (ish)
The biggest problem seems to be jamming the entire band because that band covers wider freqs than X or K.
There have been succesful K band jammers that were killed by the FCC.

[Cajun]

Like some others have said here, your best defence is your eyes, and listen to that innerself, cause if he speaks up tells you to slow down, do it.


I have had 3 speeding tickets in 10 years worth of riding, all in the past 4 years(2 of these were due to a bike which had a faulty speedo, was sitting at 65mph(should be 108km/h) found out it was 118km/h)First time i was caught wasn't total sure of speedo but was around that speed, second time i phyisclaly looking at at my speedo when i saw the cop.

3rd ticket, i didn't listen to that inner self that, and was caught at 117km/h.

I have missed paying $$$ in tickets, and losing bike due to listen to that innerself.

[sAsLEX]

I know of someone very technologically capable who's investigating Ka jammers. Legal or not, acieving the power output is easy (ish)
The biggest problem seems to be jamming the entire band because that band covers wider freqs than X or K.
There have been succesful K band jammers that were killed by the FCC.

Ka 33.4 - 36.0 GHz 0.35 - 0.33 in
9 - 8.3 mm 13 channels; 200 MHz/ch

Table A-3 -- Select Ka Band Traffic Radar Frequencies
Frequency tolerance for Ka band radars typically ±100 MHz.

Frequency System
33.3 GHz Genesis II
33.4 GHz photo radar
33.8 GHz BEE 36
34.3 GHz TMT-6F photo radar
Multanova 6F photo radar
34.6 GHz PR-100 photo radar
34.70 or 34.94 GHz Stalker ATR
34.2 - 35.2 GHz Stalker ATR (freq hopper)



The introduction of the "stalker" radar gun raised the stakes in the detection game. Unlike all previous guns, the Stalker can be FCC licensed for any frequency in the Ka-band between 33.4 GHz to 36.0 GHz, and so cannot be picked up by detectors designed only for X, K, and photo radar. Stalker guns are being used in more than half the country.


So a quick search shows that there is not that great a variance in the Freqs but the freq hopping thing would be irritating

EDIT: which stalker do we have in NZ?

[Finn]

EDIT: which stalker do we have in NZ?

It goes by the name of Cowpoos.

[Lou Girardin]

EDIT: which stalker do we have in NZ?

Stalker DLR.

[Streetwise]

It would be good to get a hold of a good one, But it would have to be a good one,

[Finn]

It would be good to get a hold of a good one, But it would have to be a good one,

Yip, just make sure that it's a good one. You wouldn't want a bad one. They are not as good as the good ones. The good ones are good.

Good one!

[Streetwise]

Yea i have heard that the good ones are better than the ones that are not good, But in saying that sometimes the bad ones are the good ones thats the problem,,,

[Streetwise]

By the way finn thats an interesting pic you have up there,,,,,haha

[Podo]

Hi, I recently purchased a motorcycle specific Whistler Cruisader from Radar Direct in Auckland. It came complete with various mounting brackets, HARD unit, antennas for front and rear of the bike. The unit is permanently fixed to the bike and looks like the other instruments, so is hard for thieves to find and steal. Being waterproof the unit has a distinct advantage over the car models and it works a treat. The system also features a blue LED which you can attach to the bike where you choose and flashes when there is detection, so there are 3 levels of warning - the console display, blue LED in cockpit flashes and red LED in the helmet HARD unit flashes, if that is not enough you can get a remote audio kit as well. The console shows the time and ambient temperature as well.